The owners of the Belarusian dumplings are wanted

Yes, yes, the owners of such a Belarusian dumplings are wanted. You really need to know the opinion of the owners of this dumpling machine, how convenient it is. Are the dumplings large enough and do the finished dumplings leave the dumpling machine well? This is necessary to help the project of a dumpling maker for the width of the noodle cutter. And the intriguing title of the topic was taken in order for as many members of the forum to see it. for this type of dumplings is extremely rare. But Belarus still casts them.



The photo was taken from the manufacturer's website. This is a plant in the Grodno region, the city of Ashmyany. Do we have nearby members of the forum? It looks like the shape is solid, heavy, the honeycomb cells are deep enough to form the dumplings body.
Questions
1.) Is the size of the dumplings obtained sufficient, not too small?

2.) Is the dough along the edges-edges cut well into honeycomb dumplings? Rib size?

3.) Do dumplings fly off the mold well?

It is very necessary to find out these questions before "sticking" to the producers of the dumplings. I myself have an old Soviet heavy dumpling maker with a deep Foma cell, and so it is uncomfortable for me, dumplings leave the mold very badly. That is, in my dumpling maker, the cell for the dumpling is deep, but not cone-shaped, but cylindrical, so the dumplings sit tightly in it. We are waiting for your responses.

[Alevtina]

Alevtina, I have such a dumplings somewhere. As for us, the dumplings are too small, if you put more minced meat, you had to push on the back side with your fingers, so that they could easily pop out or sprinkle the dough with flour. I cut perfectly on the sides.
Now we only sculpt by hand.

[notglass]

notglassThank you so much for your feedback! : a-kiss: Does your husband accidentally have a caliper to take measurements? A faint hope that maybe this is for you personally, the size of the dumplings seems small compared to the hand-made dumplings, so you tried to increase it, overfilling it. A caliper would answer all questions. Another question, does the wall of the hole for the dumpling itself have a conical bevel or is it strictly cylindrical? This is what determines whether the dumplings themselves will fly out of the mold.

But I use it with pleasure. There are nuances here. 1. The form is better than metal, not plastic. T, e, heavier. 2. Must be dry. 3. Sprinkle well with flour. Then the dumplings pop out well. 4. Put the first layer of dough on the mold, push (poke) a little on the cells with your finger. This can be done while the filling is being applied. 5. The second layer was applied, rolled well. Dumplings fly out very well. Yes, they are not big. But I like this more than horses. And what a performance! I have three children and all are peasants. Will I stick a lot by hand? And so zipper - a slide of dumplings. Sprinkle well with flour and that's it!

And it's also good with a dough sheeter. Then, in general, zip and ready ...

[tumanofaaaa]

tumanofaaaa, and you make dumplings on an aluminum Grodno dumpling maker, what is at the beginning of the topic? How do you like it? Irina, I have 7 dumplings of all sorts and I make two dough rolls and dumplings very quickly, but about sprinkling the mold with flour, I even came up with a special stencil for the dumplings for sprinkling with flour, so that there is no waste of dough and I put the minced meat using a pastry bag and scissors. This is all in my dumplings master class
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tumanofaaaa, and you make dumplings on an aluminum Grodno dumpling machine, which is at the beginning of the topic

absolutely she! I like! only I'm lazy and lately I've been making rolls

Is the width of the dough sheeting layer sufficient for this dumpling machine?
I have two pieces (one with the same hexagons, but solid round). And for both the width is small.

Is the width of the dough sheeting layer sufficient for this dumpling machine?
I have two pieces (one with the same hexagons, but solid round). And for both, the width is small.

Well, depending on what kind of dough sheeter. My little one, so not enough. But maybe someone has more.

[vedmacck]

vedmacck, I drew attention to this dumpling maker for a number of reasons. It is still poured at a plant in Belarus. This means that they do not need to explain what a dumpling maker is. If the shape of the cell for their Grodno dumpling maker is good, then they will be able to make us a three-row dumpling maker to fit the width of the dough sheeter-noodle maker, taking their own dumpling maker as a prototype ..

[Creamy]

Creamy, but this is already interesting! It is necessary to clarify what is my origin. You can also measure the cells then it will be.

[Tanya]

Eagerly, Tanya,vedmacck, I will wait!

This is tomorrow - I will not rattle dishes and tools at night.

I have for more than thirty years a quadrangular dumpling maker for 52 dumplings with this honeycomb shape. The husband is a Belarusian, bought before the wedding in his Gomel region. Unfortunately, there is no factory hallmark. Internal dimensions: the lower circle is strictly cylindrical - 3 cm, the upper hexagon is 3.2 cm. Rib length 2 cm. Very comfortable. We often make dumplings in large quantities. The size is very pleasant, the meat fits a lot, the dough cuts well. Well, some of them have to be shoved with a finger, but the bulk of the bellows, especially if you hit the edge on a rolling pin, fly out on their own. If it turns out to be one manufacturer, I recommend it, but I immediately order two for myself under the dough rolling machine. (My husband will lay out the meat in one, and I will already roll up the second, shake it out and lay it in for freezing)
I did something wrong at night. Fixed

especially if you hit the edge on a rolling pin - it flies out on its own.

endorsements. And I knock on the table

I recommend it, but I immediately order two for myself under the dough sheeter. (My husband will lay out the meat in one, and I will already roll up the second, shake it out and lay it in for freezing)

I also subscribe - to speed up the process in general.When we sculpt my husband and I, the rolling and molding are instantaneous, and the filling while the husband is expanding is idle

A simple husband in our time is an impermissible waste, urgently liquidate!

[marshmallow]

marshmallowThank you for your feedback and help! Can I ask you to post in this thread a photo of your successful dumpling maker for 54 dumplings? After all, the Grodno dumpling maker, which is at the beginning of the topic, is for 37 dumplings.

Girls, dear, and in my thoughts there was no offending anyone!
We love dumplings very much, but this thing is idle at times. That's not so tasty for my dumplings, but handmade ones are swept away instantly. We have a tradition: for all the busyness, it doesn't matter on some weekend evening at the TV set: one rolls out on a dough roll (I have a Marcato 18cm), the other cuts out circles and two molds. We sculpt a lot and immediately into the freezer.
Now about sizes:
The distance between the remaining opposite corners of the hexagon is 40mm
Distance between flat opposite ribs 36mm
Fin length 19mm
Cell depth 7mm
Top round hole diameter 29mm
Bottom hole diameter 25mm

Girls, dear, and in my thoughts there was no offending anyone!

Annushka, well, what kind of offenses are we talking about ??? And in my thoughts there was no offense. And it’s not hotitstsa to be a water carrier !!! Essesenno self-directed it is more pleasant and your husband is looking at business ... (garage, car, internet, computer games and friends go to ... plan ...)

That's it, Ira! Precisely, so that people do not sit in the computer for hours, the sweetest thing to do is to sculpt dumplings. After all, because of work and problems, there is practically no time to just sit and talk. Confusion, work, computer, problems. And then he cooked and talked, laughed, joked, or sorted out the problem.

I did not find mine
Only a large one "for dumplings", where there is half of a large hexagon.
If the children threw it away -

I took measurements of my uncomfortable old heavy Soviet aluminum dumplings. Rib length 20 mm, top hole 28 mm, bottom 24 mm, rib height 4 mm, rib width 4.6 mm, the depth of the hole is purely only without taking into account the rib height 12 mm. Weight 682 grams.

Hello!
The second day I "sit in the bushes" with my dumplings. It looks very similar in appearance (37 dumplings), but I'm not sure what exactly is of Belarusian production. Old. From the USSR. On the back the price is 2 rubles 30 kop. and the symbol of the plant, but there is no name.

The depressions are tapered. I don’t know how convenient the thing is, they gave it to me so as not to throw it away, but I didn’t bother to use it, because my family members prefer small hand dumplings. If necessary, I will take measurements, whatever you say.

[neighbor]

neighbor, Svetlana,, Yes ! this is exactly this dumpling maker! And the size and, most importantly. their letter designation for the correct concept by me, you can take from this hastily hand-drawn sketch.



click to enlarge the photo.

Oh, just now I noticed an error in the cut, where the edges along the edges also fall into the cut.

[Creamy]

CreamyAlevtina, these are the measurements in accordance with the diagram. I measured it with a wooden school ruler - there is no SCC (
In brackets - your values ​​(as a guide)
EK = (20) 20mm
Rib width (5) 7mm
Rib height (4) 3.5mm
AB = (28) 28
SD = (24) 22
Incision
depth (12) 15.5 (12mm mold + 3.5 rim)
the other three values ​​- as I understood, duplicate the previous ones?

[Creamy]

Creamy, the techie is immediately visible

a little more photos
back view. Chamfering a little


full size dumplings 39mm


and she has legs

My husband came, looked at me with a caliper like a monkey with a grenade, took it away, measured it, changed the values ​​in my previous post. Mine is a little different.

[neighbor]

neighborThanks a lot for the measurements! In your dumplings, with the same depth of the dumpling hole, the difference between the upper and lower diameters is more than 28-22 = 6 mm! This is as much as 6 mm! It's just great! Against the difference in diameters on my dumplings 28-24 = 4mm. And with small diameters 2 mm are essential. When you sprinkle the mold with flour, more flour remains on the flatter slope of the hole, and mine has a more steep wall of the hole for a dumpling. and most of the flour just flies through! All these factors together make it easier for the dumplings to leave the mold quickly and easily. There are no trifles in this business. And the legs are very stable! They really inspired hope! Can you find out the weight of the dumplings? The plant indicates a weight of 0.65 kg.

[Creamy]

Creamy, thank you for the plus signs
I also noticed the difference in diameters. A distinct "cone" is visible in mine. I won't be able to find out the weight yet - I took the kitchen scales to the dacha, only at the weekend I can pick it up. Tomorrow in the store I'll ask you to weigh it, although they may refuse. Offhand - somewhere about the same 650 grams, maybe a little less - the vidocq at the dumpling maker is "combat", maybe a little bit of it in places.
Well .. and I couldn’t stand it and kneaded the dough ... I’m too lazy to mess with the minced meat, I’ll make it with cheese - I’ll check the dumpling maker's abilities .. I also got the raviolnitsa from Chibo’s purchase the other day, maybe there’s enough dough for them - they also itch to check the pens) problem - there is no room in the freezer now, otherwise it would have already turned around ..))

[Svetlana]

Svetlana,neighbor, no need to weigh in the store. There is no urgency. It was enough for me to glance at the seamy side to be convinced of the solid weight. By the way, such a dumpling maker with such a "smooth" inside out is much easier to cast and there is less risk of damage to the original mold model. We are waiting for the outcome and analysis of field tests of the dumplings.

Well, the tests were carried out .. in the night .. the right palm hurts from the rolling pin ..The diagnosis is as follows: once this dumpling machine was a very decent thing, now its condition has deteriorated greatly - probably, they threw and beat it a lot, maybe even used it for other purposes (In general, as for the ease of jumping out, then yes, dumplings fly out themselves, Thanks to the cone-shaped indentations. But the edges were cut very unevenly, partly it turned out right (neat hexagonal dumplings), but most of it fell out like a honeycomb .. I had to cut them with a silicone knife. I didn't even take a photo, and so everything is clear. Old I have a round metal one, also from the USSR, and everything is cut perfectly in it, but it is in perfect condition. And I got this one already killed.

Yesterday I tested it and also plastic raviolnits from Chibo's purchase. I didn't even expect, but the raviolnits were very comfortable. And in comparison with the "old woman" in general, heaven and earth. Today I cooked cooked products. Three of all types. For some reason, the ravioli turned out to be thicker dough (than it should have been), and the dumplings are thin (as expected). I always roll out very thinly, as they say "you can read the newspaper"), my hand is full) And how this happened, I can not understand. And I did "every other time": first r-li, then p., Then again r. Now I'm thinking: how thick should the dough be rolled to get the thickness of the ravioli, so that the boiled ones turn out as I need ...

[neighbor]

neighbor, Svetlana, Thank you so much for sharing your experience with us. Once again I was convinced that there are no trifles. Every little thing pulls something of its own. And the totality of little things is already dramatically changing the state of affairs. In your case, the edges were knocked down with the old dumplings, so your palms hurt, which you had to forcefully roll with a rolling pin more than once in order to cut the dough into honeycombs. And your old dumpling maker may have been used as a hot plate. Now it should be taken into account when ordering that too sharp edges have more opportunities to be knocked down. And still it is necessary to find out which of the food grades of aluminum have greater hardness and resistance to external damage. Once again, thank you for your research and assistance to the project.

[neighbor, Svetlana]

neighbor, Svetlana, and what grade of aluminum do you have indicated on the pelmeni maker? Is it AK5 or AK7? Or is there no brand at all?

There is definitely no metal grade, only this:

the old dumplings were knocked down

I agree 100%! It can even be seen. On the edges there are small "knives", so in some places they are in excellent condition, and in the center (mostly) "jammed".

and what grade of aluminum do you have indicated on the dumpling maker? Is it AK5 or AK7? Or is there no brand at all?

The brand is usually not indicated, but such an edition should be cast from aluminum with high silicon such as AK9, AK12. Silicon gives strength to the alloy, but at the same time increases its fragility. My husband and I consulted here and decided so (my husband is a caster, I am a scrap metal-flower garden). Although ... we could be wrong.
And this is injection molding.

[svetta]

svetta, , thanks for the help! My old Soviet dumpling maker says AK7. Svetlana, ask your husband what brand provides the best combination so that the ribs of the dumplings do not go astray, and so that the dumpling maker itself is not fragile, otherwise some people like to knock out dumplings a lot. And then I already got confused in food brands of aluminum and guests on them.

[Creamy]

Creamy, tortured her husband. Torture does not give in well, because he is very bad (yesterday until 1 am we went to a wedding).
In general, he issued versions: "The aluminum alloy can be silumin AK7-AK9-AK12 or even duralumin AD16. Such casting is done mainly from secondary aluminum, it makes it cheaper. For household utensils such as ducklings, pans, pots, etc., including . for dumplings (!), according to the characteristics, the AK7-AK9 alloy passes, since it will withstand the planned loads in everyday life.And if someone uses a dumpling machine not only for dumplings and hits it with an ax, then the flag is in his hands. In the mass production of household products, such force majeure is not provided. If you just hit the dumpling maker on the table, it won't fall apart even after 100 hits. "
Regarding sharp edges: "The sharpness of the edges depends on the mold. If the designer initially laid the wrong angle in the mold, then the dumpling maker will come out of it with the edges of a fuzzy configuration. Also, if the mold is made a little incorrectly, then the dumpling maker will be or limp on one leg (swing with a small backlash), or the surface with cutting (dough) edges will not be mirror-like, but with a drop invisible to the eye. Hence the efforts when rolling out the upper layer of dough and not cutting through some cells. "

Here is my extended retelling of my husband's short speech. I will omit his opinion about the questions asked to him at "such a moment!"

[svetta]

svetta, thanks for the detailed answer! Now we need to find out what angle of the edges is optimal for our dumplings.

[Creamy]

Creamy, and this can only be said by users, that is, we. After all, many dumplings are produced, but in the process of operation they are all different. We need to conduct marketing research, monitor the market, say so.

we need to find out which edge angle is optimal for our dumpling maker.

Good evening!
The edge angle is obtuse, but the edge itself does not end with an angle, but is continued with a kind of "knife"
very schematically it looks like this:


these edges at my form are jammed, but the edges themselves are intact.

I'm still the artist ..

[neighbor]

neighbor, oh, how curious! Tomorrow, in daylight, I'll take a close-up shot of the ribs on my two aluminum dumplings. The shapes of the edges differ there too. And I will conduct field comparative tests simply by a test on the subject of which edge cuts the dough better.

here you can see her

[neighbor]

neighbor, Svetlana, yes, it is definitely visible! Koloboks carry on the investigation further.

If I'm not entirely off topic, please send me to the correct address. I somehow stupidly bought a plastic dumpling maker, but its cutting edges are very blunt. I suspect this is normal for plastic. Is it possible to sharpen them somehow? With a file? With a skin? Thank you.

I am afraid that nothing will be able to sharpen it. How will you fit with the file at the right angle to the short edges of the honeycomb-hexagons? I have 7 pieces of different dumplings, before there were 8 types. Just one went under my experiments, and then was thrown out. Best of all, I personally mold and cut dumplings rectangular plastic dumplings "IDEA", bought two years ago for 87 rubles.

Belarusian production workers. casting dumplings in the city of Ashmyany, Grodno region, my letter - the appeal was not answered. I thank everyone. who took part in the discussion, posted photos of their dumplings to help us. I consider the topic of cooperation with this production worker to be exhausted, and therefore I am closing this topic itself. Thanks everyone!

Maybe they just haven't gotten to your letter yet or are they thinking?