Creamy
Anna1957, Anna, then there is a chance to cooperate. But somewhere they have to be sold at retail, if there are such large inventories?
Niarma
But delivery is only in St. Petersburg, but what about the rest? Only if one of the girls agrees to organize a joint venture ...
Anna1957
And the girls have already received this size from the Wildberries, this is not only in St. Petersburg.
Niarma
There is similar, but not like that (smaller). I will wait for reviews
Seven-year plan
I am totally for !!!
I don't even remember what I ordered there ...
But I will take two things of each size !!!
Fifanya
There is no such thing in Vladivostok in Wildberries (they write in your region oops) so you have to ask someone from the girls
francevna
Quote: Anna1957

And the girls have already received this size from the Wildberries, this is not only in St. Petersburg.
Anna, too, put a dumpling maker in the basket, but there for 61 pieces, and here for 55 pieces.
This one is larger in size.
Sens
Creamy, Do you remove the cherry pit for the dumpling?
julia_bb
Quote: francevna
This one is larger in size.
So it turns out very close to the Idea in the size of the cells, only the shape is round
LudMila
I just wanted to confirm the order, and then the call was canceled ...
But if suddenly there is a manufacturer, then:
LudMila - I will order 1 dumpling maker, preferably for a large size.
julia_bb
Quote: Niarma
There is similar, but not like that (smaller). I will wait for reviews
So there are reviews, in the topic about Helen's dumplings, read
Creamy
Sens, I buy frozen cherries for dumplings with the bone already taken out. Our seasonal cherries and cherries are more expensive than year-round frozen pitted cherries in a hypermarket.
Sens
Quote: Creamy

Sens, I buy frozen cherries for dumplings with the bone already taken out. Our seasonal cherries and cherries are more expensive than year-round frozen pitted cherries in a hypermarket.
how big is it? how is "spunk"? or regular size?
Creamy
Sens, I didn’t tear the crap, I don’t know, but the Dessert Volga and Kostychevskaya black all childhood and youth had to tear and collect 400-500 kg in the season. (and how many times I flew down the stairs!) Since then, childhood I hate picking cherries and I hate cherry jam. I eat only fresh cherries or dumplings with cherries. My frozen cherry from the Hypermarket is the same size and slightly larger than an ordinary cherry. I think that only a very large one will not fit into the cell.
Katerok87
Quote: Creamy
The casters carefully studied our request and answered my many questions. This is not their profile, there is no economic justification for introducing our product into their assortment, this order would be a drop in the ocean of their work.
According to them, in order to achieve the proper casting quality of our dumplings, we need production machines for injection molding. They are available in all industries. The biggest difficulty lies in the large financial costs of making the model. It costs from 300,000 rubles to 600,000 rubles to make any model. And our dumpling maker with its 34 concave-convex holes with sharp edges is considered difficult, and therefore the price will be close to the upper price corridor. But having a ready-made model, you can easily pour at least one dumplings on it, at least a thousand dumplings.
Of the 257 enterprises in Russia involved in casting non-ferrous metals (our aluminum is just a non-ferrous metal), it is necessary to find those who are directly involved in the casting of food-grade aluminum AK5 for the needs of the domestic bakery and food industry and for equipping restaurants, cafes and canteens. I found these production workers, now I will knock on them.

That man from the littech just said about the same, that a mold for casting aluminum will cost from 300,000 rubles.I don’t know if the form for the dough sheeter is really so necessary now that so much time has passed since the beginning of this survey? What do you think? Of course, you can still search, because I think that a lot could have changed during this time.
Sens
The biggest difficulty lies in the large financial costs of making the model.
and what is this model?






It seems to me that soon we ourselves will be casting any dumplings on 3-d printers ...
julia_bb
Sens, there are pictures on the first page.
I also thought about a 3D printer
Sens
Quote: julia_bb
there are pictures on the first page.
there is a picture on the first page, it doesn't cost a lot of money.
my question is about something else, about the requirement of the foundry to the model.




Quote: julia_bb
I also thought about a 3D printer
gotta try.

you can also scan the existing cat. close to ideal in size and shape of the hole, then in special. programs to process and make a 3-d model.
and sell a 3-D model. or we ourselves will throw in the programmer ...
and everyone can print as much as necessary ...
Katerok87
Quote: Sens
what is this model?
This is called model equipment, that is, the form in which the dumplings will be cast where this aluminum will be poured.
Quote: Sens
It seems to me that soon we ourselves will be casting any dumplings on 3-d printers ...
It seems to me more realistic to cast from plastic.




Better a tit in the hands (plastic) than a crane in the clouds (aluminum).
A doctor I knew told me that he went to courses in Moscow on implantology, and so he says that they took a picture of the jaw of a person from the audience and printed it one to one on a 3D printer. The husband says that it costs about 10 thousand (depending on the size). And type whatever you want on it.




One question is embarrassing, will the back not hurt too long (60cm) to reach that edge? It seems to me that some sort of collapsible model would be considered, so that it could be used by anyone as conveniently as possible and can be removed neatly in the closet.
Fifanya
In this case, then find a specialist to write a program-algorithm (or whatever it is called) so that we can call ourselves any size in the field. And for this you need drawings, as I understand it
Katerok87
Something like a Soviet book dumpling maker, only the lock between the halves is more improved.

Ketsal
Brother can draw a model for a 3D printer, it remains to find a 3D printer
Sens
Quote: Ketsal

Brother can draw a model for a 3d printer, it remains to find a 3d printer
he needs a sample! Therefore, you need to scan the shape that Creamy said she was almost perfect. The programmer can reduce / increase the size of the cells and arrange them in the desired order. You need three cell sizes and, as I understand it, different lengths.

There are plenty of printers. You must first choose the material. Food grade and quite firm and durable.
Ketsal
Sens, sovdepovskaya aluminum lives at home - she is not ideal ??? Give wishes
Sens
Quote: Ketsal

Sens, sovdepovskaya aluminum lives at home - she is not ideal ??? Give wishes
must be compared with Alevtina's version, she said, there are very convenient chamfer angles, etc.
Katerok87
Quote: Sens
There are plenty of printers. You must first choose the material. Food grade and quite firm and durable.

Creamy
Having made dumplings on all sorts of different dumplings, I came to experience that the most convenient cells

for large dumplings - 19-seat Chinese dumplings, dumplings fly out of it the fastest. I think the most ideal.

for medium dumplings - plastic IDEA and another one of my aluminum nicely hand filed. I think IDEA is very good

for small dumplings - 55-seater Polish for one cherry (perhaps a 61-seater with an even smaller cell will also be good, I just don't have it to test)

But the main thing is to take the edge itself from a Chinese dumpling maker and frame the dumplings with a medium hole and with a small one with these edges, keeping the ratio of the area (hexagon minus the circle) for sprinkling with flour for less adhesion, then it will generally be super!
Sens
Creamy, like it was Czech or Polish ...
Creamy
Sens, 55-seat dumplings turned out to be Polish.
Katerok87
Quote: Ketsal
Give wishes
There are several constructive options and, when entering the queue, everyone would vote for the option that is closer to him. Or maybe you can even make any one out of three four variants. And I would still like to discuss the design!
Ketsal
The long edge, in my understanding, should not be more than 55 cm, taking into account the margins. For the depth of a standard kitchen cabinet is 60 cm, minus the thickness of the door and backdrop. With a length of 55, the dumplings fit into the cabinet




The second question is the height of the legs, so that the dumpling is thick.
Katerok87
Quote: Creamy
Another one of my aluminum is nicely hand-filed.
And what kind of dumplings is this? I wonder what is filed in it?





Quote: Ketsal
For the depth of a standard kitchen cabinet is 60 cm, minus the thickness of the door and backdrop. With a length of 55, the dumplings fit into the cabinet
I know for sure that the depth by the standards of the lower cabinet is from 40 to 50 without a door and a back wall. And from the back wall to the wall, 10 cm is left under the communication, the table top is 60 cm.With the length of the dumplings 60 cm, it will simply not be convenient to stretch far and I think it is also not convenient to work with a rolling pin near the wall, you have to move the form towards you, but there is nowhere to move. I think 40 to 50 will be fine.
Creamy
Katerok87, modern, thin, all in a marriage of casting with sharp edges, cutting fingers into the blood. So all week I have been grinding all the edges (casting defects - flaking) and all the holes by hand with sandpaper of different grain size, grind and grind. This dumpling maker is on medium
the size of the dumplings, but it is slightly inferior to IDEA in speed of cutting the dough along the edges of the dumplings.

What properties should a good dumpling maker have?

The dough is quickly cut along the ribs.

The dumpling maker efficiently and reliably holds the edges of the dumplings

The cell includes a sufficiently optimal amount of stuffing stuffing (the use of hemispheres from forms has been added)

The height of the legs of the dumplings is sufficient to avoid the "hernia" of the dumplings

Ready-made dumplings quickly leave the dumplings (no need to shake, knock on the table and shmakat - deform the dumplings)
Katerok87
Quote: Creamy
So I have been grinding all the edges (casting defects - flaking) and all the holes by hand with sandpaper of various grain sizes all week, grind and grind. This dumpling maker is on medium
the size of the dumplings, but it is slightly inferior to IDEA in speed of cutting the dough along the edges of the dumplings.
By what parameters is it better than Idea and the Soviet one, because you have a whole collection of Soviet ones, that you decided on such a feat?




What do you think about a plastic 3D printer?
Creamy
Katerok87, it is thin, it is cheaper, it was easier to buy. to cut for all my experiments. It was not on Avito that I was buying a rarity for fifteen hundred rubles apiece!
Sens
Material and configuration are irrelevant for scanning. Only the quality of the edges and convenience.
Katerok87
Quote: Seven-year
I don't even remember what I ordered there ...
In which shop?
Lyi
See what I found on the internet:
Press for forming dumplings and dumplings.

Our company has introduced a new type of equipment for production - "PRESS FOR FORMING DUMPLINGS and VARENIKOV"

This type of equipment allows you to reduce the time for modeling by several times.

The equipment provides various shapes and sizes according to customer needs including the ability to arrange forms and pasties.
With us you can always consider the price for each product depending on the volume of the order, as well as change the design at your request.
It's here

🔗


Maybe this is what we are looking for?
Creamy
Lyi, this is familiar to us. As if not to be mistaken, but it seems that these are Polish 6-seater dumplings. Have you noticed the speed of making dumplings with cherries? I was especially impressed by the way the poor woman, with her muscular strength, forcefully cuts through the dough, even more so, hanging on the handle with her whole body weight.Or are the reciprocating parts of the mechanisms just poorly fitted? In my opinion, this is not advertising at all, this is pure anti-advertising! And, most importantly, alas, there the price for a 5-6 local dumpling maker is tens of thousands of rubles!
Katerok87
I called in any phone. does not answer, ordered a call back, no one called back. Did anyone buy something there?
cleose
Quote: Creamy
for medium dumplings - IDEA plastic
Creamy, Alevtina, thanks for the conclusions and comparisons. Is the Soviet one in the form of a book inferior to IDEA in your opinion?
Elena Tim
Quote: cleose
Is the Soviet one in the form of a book inferior to IDEA in your opinion?
God forbid, Irish! The book is generally ideal for a dough roll. And the size of the cells with the Idea is almost the same - 3.5 and 3.6, respectively. So, the book cannot yield to the Idea in any way. It's just that it's not so easy to buy, and Idea is an excellent substitute for it, sold at every turn.
Helen
Quote: Elena Tim

God forbid, Irish! The book is generally ideal for a dough roll. And the size of the cells with the Idea is almost the same - 3.5 and 3.6, respectively. So, the book cannot yield to the Idea in any way. It's just that it's not so easy to buy, and Idea is an excellent substitute for it, sold at every turn.

Len, I also bought IDEA, so what !? you and everyone have it ... but I do not have it !!! insulting ....: girl_in_dreams: I'll play with her and see how she is to me ... but no ... so I'll give it to my aunt ...
Natalia K.
Quote: Helen
I also bought IDEA
Oooh congratulations
Quote: Helen
So what!?
In the sense of? Haven't tried it yet? This is a big omission on your part
Quote: Helen
you and all have it ... but I do not have it !!!
A very strong argument in favor of the dumplings
If only for the sake of this, then it is definitely worth buying and not only Idea, but all the missing ones that everyone has
Quote: Helen
I'll play with her
Len the most important thing is not to forget her in the sandbox when you play enough
Helen
Quote: Natalia K.
Len the most important thing is not to forget her in the sandbox when you play enough
kirch
Quote: Helen
A very strong argument in favor of the dumplings
If only for the sake of this, then it is definitely worth buying and not only Idea, but all the missing ones that everyone has
I bought the Idea several years ago. There was also some kind of excitement at the Bread Maker. I never used it
Natalia K.
Quote: kirch
I bought the Idea several years ago.
Ludmila, similarly, or rather in 2014.
Quote: kirch
There was also some kind of excitement at the Bread Maker.
I also took part in it then

Quote: kirch
I never used it
This year, or rather this month, I used it for the first time. And that's thanks to the fact that everyone began to make dumplings en masse
And the instigator of all this fuss, as always Elena Tim ... Although if it were not for her, then my Idea would have been lying further, never used
kirch
I'll probably have to try it too. And then my husband and I manually sculpt. Rather, I roll the dough on a typewriter, make circles by cutting, and he sculpts. But we don't do too much, by 2 times
cleose
Quote: Elena Tim
God forbid, Irish! The book is generally ideal for a dough roll. And the size of the cells with the Idea is almost the same - 3.5 and 3.6, respectively.
I wanted to calm myself down, then I don't have a Soviet one yet, thought Alevtina, she would say (and suddenly say) that she is inferior to something.
I bought IDEA but did not use it yet .. and bought a triple taper for 19 pieces, they have not yet reached me, but I think I’ve already gorged on dumplings)).
but I want Soviet again
Elena Tim
Quote: Natalia K.
And the instigator of all this fuss, as always, Elena Tim
Yes, I myself, like a plague, buy up almost everything. Tell me who, a month ago, that I would have a wagon of all kinds of dumplings, I would have given it in the eye, for such nonsense, but I just hated all the dumplings put together.

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