Sedne
Well, I will say that the Bork mini-oven is of high quality, I have had it for 5 years already, well, from the moment it came out and it works very well, though I don’t make chicken in it, I don’t know how it turns out. I used it to make pizza, toasts and hot sandwiches, I made all kinds of pastries, I made lasagne, I made meat in French and stuffed meatloaf, everything is very good and fast. I am very happy with the stove, but the truth is now, of course, it costs a lot. I would hardly have bought it for such a price.
Masinen
Svetlana, I made a chicken, a big one will not fit.
Yes, a nice and beautiful oven)
fsv88
Girls, thanks a lot
Marina M
kisa, Hi! I bought a Bork stove - the one that is bigger with convection. I'm testing right now. She baked a puff pie. First 10 minutes at 220 degrees, and then I wanted 15 minutes at 180 degrees. The first 10 minutes - over - he beeped. I set the second half - 180 g for 15 minutes. It turned on - only covection, the lamps did not light up and the heating mode did not turn on. I thought everything - you have to carry it back = - the lamps broke. I pulled out the outlet and tried to turn on the baking mode - the lamps turned on. Tell me - how to do it - when baking in two stages - with different time and temperature? If after the first stage - unplug from the socket and set again - the preheating mode will turn on again. This is somehow not very convenient. Doesn't she really have the ability to add time and change the temperature while cooking? just stop doing. And after that, there is also no way to immediately continue by setting a new temperature and time (the lamps do not turn on, only convection works) - only if you unplug it and turn it on again. Do you manage to bake in two stages? And How? I'm really looking forward to an answer - I need to decide in 14 days - whether this oven suits me or take it back
Marina M
quartz crystals heat up faster. I have a 2 minute preheat and ready for any program!
Masinen
Marina, good day!
You can change both the temperature and time in the process. And you cannot light the lamps, because the stove has not cooled down below 180 grams. just because)
And set it for 35 minutes at once and after 10 minutes just lower the temperature with the regulator.
This is what I did in my 550 model.
Sedne
I also set the full time at once and during the program I decrease or increase the temperature.
Marina M
Masinen, wrote the answer - but he did not appear .... I am writing again. Thank you Maria for your quick reply! About cleansing the inside, the consultant said in the store that this is her plus - put a glass of water - turn it on (I don't remember only for how long) and you can wash it with a cloth. It is strange that it has baked goods on the lower rack - in other ovens - on the middle one. But it also confuses me - the lower lamp by the door glows less than the distant one in the depths. and unevenly - in the middle of the tube it is lighter - the distant one - shines evenly and brighter. Suddenly this lamp is defective and breaks quickly. What about you? By the way, I bought it yesterday for 29,990 rubles. in M-Video. I'm afraid to buy on the internet - although it may be cheaper there ... It's great that there is such a forum
Masinen
Marina, well, yes, the lamps sometimes glow unevenly, it all depends on the heating and how the stove turns it on.
At the middle level, the stove is heavy, the shadows are close and your top will burn out.
It all depends on the height of the stove.
You have a check guarantee and Bork service will change it for you, if suddenly something or will return the money during the warranty period. And within 14 days, you can return to the store, although Mvideo will not accept it from you without a service conclusion, since you have already used it. With Mvideo it is very difficult to make returns.
So use it and have fun)
Marina M
Masinen, THANKS: rose: And how would YOU advise to bake a pie from non-yeast puff pastry store - closed top with slots? I envy how you bake bread, I would also like a yeast-free oven. BUT as I read it - "knead for a long time and strain for a long time" - my desire disappears. Is there no faster or easier way? Something I do not see messages - I type three times ...
Marina M
MasinenI have not tested all the modes yet, but I noticed that the lamps burn differently. But this one, my neighbor, is always paler and always uneven. I didn't know about such a return - the consultant told me that you can simply return it within 14 days ...
Marina M
Masinen, Thanks for the advice. Where to get recipes? what to bake on what mode and with what parameters I don’t even know hot sandwiches on what modes to bake?
Sedne
Marinawhy recipes? This oven is the same oven, only small, any recipes for the oven are suitable.
Marina M
Sedne, question - which mode to choose? - here you can't set it yourself - top or bottom heat - they are in modes - so you don't know which mode will turn out better. Here are the hot sandwiches on which mode - toast, grill, frying? or fish for example in foil?
Sedne
Marina M, I don’t do fish, but I did meat rolls on the fry, bread, pies, pies, and various pastries on a muffin, cookies on cookies, toast and grilled sandwiches, I did it on a muffin, I was too lazy to switch modes, pizza on pizza
Marina M
Sedne, Thank you! : girl_love: is cupcake mode BAKE? You can probably fish on it. '' I tried it. It means that meat and chicken on a grill are better, they can probably burn on a grill. I don’t know why I grl at all - - I don’t want to bake anything from meat open - so that fat splashes ... In general, I will try everything ... The last question for today: How do you advise baking a pie from non-yeast puff pastry store-bought dough - closed top with slots? - 30 minutes 200 degrees or 10 minutes 220 grams plus 15 minutes 180 grams?
Sedne
Marina, yes, bake, I don't know why I call him a cupcake, but I call, I do almost everything on it now, I am lazy to switch.
Marina M
Masinen, you can also ask: It is written about Bork500: "Program settings can be changed manually by creating your own author's recipes, and they will be displayed the next time you turn on the device." I don't remember them. After disconnecting from the network - I turn it on again - the mode settings are standard, and not those that I had set before. So should they be remembered?
Marina M
Masinen, you can also ask: It is written about Bork500: "Program settings can be changed manually by creating your own author's recipes, and they will be displayed the next time you turn on the device." I don't remember them. After disconnecting from the network - I turn it on again - the mode settings are standard, and not those that I had set before. So should they be remembered?
Masinen
And why do you pull it out of the network, it was always plugged into the outlet and went into standby mode. And the last settings were remembered)
Marina M
Masinen, as it is written in the instructions - after work - remove from the socket. So you can leave and not remove their sockets?
Masinen
I didn't take it out. I don't know how the 500 model goes into standby mode or not.
kolobashka
Mash, I don't unplug it, and it doesn't remember my settings.
Masinen
Barbara, yeah)) Damn., well, then I'm confusing something
fsv88
Girls, tell me ...
Bork 500 - maximum program time. Can I expose for 24 hours?
vo4ik13
Good day. Owners of Bork W500 stoves - please tell me what size your grate is?))
kolobashka
Today I trained to bake cakes for Easter. The smallest molds are made of paper and the top is very hot. I really don't know what to do. I don't like low wide Easter cakes. Mash, did you bake cakes in it? Cover with wet paper right away? Everything worked out great inside.
Masinen
Barbara, yes, it is better to immediately cover and then remove at the very end and brown.
Vasilevich
You don't have a lot here and the details of using the stove are not enough.
Someone cooked potatoes, a kind of fried in a pan, but only in the oven.I also tried something wrong, cut it into strips, sprinkled it with oil, salt, mixed and at 185 C, 40 minutes. + convention. (I want to move all frying on the stove to the oven, the memories of grandma's cooking in the Russian oven)
Vasilevich
Gradually, a picture of how mammoths died out.
Masinen
Vasilevich,

Yes, something is quiet here)))

By the way, we have Bork silence on all topics, people don't like Bork What is strange, they have good copies of equipment, but it's expensive, probably that's why they don't like

What can I tell you, potatoes like in a pan in the oven will not work))
Vasilevich
Today I tried it at 200 C and 45 minutes. no convention at the bottom level. Almost like a frying pan. I ate with pleasure.
Why not love Bork? Expensive? So then there should be savings in kW. I warmed stuffed pancakes, so half the time the heating elements were dark, that is, they did not consume energy, or consumed a minimum. I checked the temperature at 100 C, turned off at 90 C, but the temperature reached 115 C, dropped to 96, then raised to 103 C and stably kept it at this level, while the heaters never lit up, that is, they worked at low power. Outwardly like it, the handle is cold. In general, so far positive emotions.
Masinen
Quote: Vasilievich
Outwardly like it, the handle is cold. In general, so far positive emotions.

Well, this is the most important thing that you like)

Quote: Vasilievich
Why not love Bork? Expensive?

Probably. I love their technique, the only thing that can be bought in Europe is cheaper.
Vasilevich
Quote: Masinen
Well, this is the most important thing that you like)
I got it recently and therefore not a lot of impressions. Moreover, there are very few proven recipes by users of this oven. And about the pen - I read in many reviews that others have a problem with this. Well, besides the handle, I like quartz. Since I think its heat transfer is faster, there is no intermediary. I don’t know about others, but the fact that the time starts when the set temperature is reached is also a big plus. For example, there is no such thing on my multicooker.
Masinen
Vasilevich, Bork's ovens are good, I had them too. But I was given a stove by Finma Shteba for a test and I sold Bork, because I have nowhere to put two pieces.
Vasilevich
Quote: Masinen
Shteba
And you can be curious about what specific model? So to speak, what are its advantages.
Masinen
Steba KB28Eco Line

Advantages in low electricity consumption, power only 1600W, higher height.
And so pure mechanics, strictly without any electronics.
Here read, I did a review and talked about the oven
Mini ovens Steba KB28 / KB 28 ECO Line
Vasilevich
An interesting model, but for the consumption of e-mail. exactly less energy? Since Bork only at first spends more, but most likely it has less warm-up time, and then the temperature is maintained and everything depends on losses. If there are large losses, the consumption is higher, if small losses are less. Well, this is just reasoning on a free topic. But for now, outwardly, I like Bork more, if in liters - I alone will have enough.


Added Thursday, 01 Sep 2016 7:19 PM

It's a shame that you broke up with Bork. On the Shteby page, what I need is on the Bork page.
Masinen
Vasilevich, yes, Shteba's heat loss is small, maybe the Germans made good insulation in the oven and double glass in the door, therefore ECO)

What time is it at Bork, I just forgot)
Shteba has about 10 minutes, the manufacturer writes.
I bake bread for exactly 35 minutes from the moment of heating, I set the timer to 45, as it dropped to 35, then I put the bread in the oven.
Chicken 1 hour.
Cupcakes 40-60 minutes, depending on size.

Bork is beautiful, and it is convenient that it gives a signal that it has warmed up, well, it has many advantages)
Vasilevich
Quote: Masinen
What time is it at Bork, I just forgot)
Shteba has about 10 minutes, the manufacturer writes.
Today I specially measured the heating up to 200 C, 4 minutes. on the bottom two. And with top-bottom up to 185 C 2 min.
Bork also has double glass, but what about the handle? Bork doesn't even get warm. True, the walls are hot.
Masinen
The handle is cold.
Well, Bork heats up faster, yes, you can't argue.

Shteb has ordinary heating tints, but they also do not always turn on. I observed, but the error will be greater in temperature. In the topic, users measured, so I didn't even))
The sides are tolerably hot, those are normal.
But the bork has a recess for a round large shape, which I really liked.
Vasilevich
Quote: Masinen
But the bork has a recess for a round large shape, which I really liked.
So far, this is the only thing that I did not like. I saw in some models a depression along the entire height of the volume. And Bork has a lower level without a deepening. :-(
Masinen
Quote: Vasilievich
And Bork has a lower level without a deepening. :-(

So they did it more for pizza, and pizza is not done on the lower level)))
But such a large round shape will no longer fit into the Shteba, because it does not have an extension on the back wall, look.
Vasilevich
Quote: Masinen
So they did it more for pizza, and pizza is not done on the lower level)))
I understand that it was invented only for making pizza, but I assume the possibility of cooking something else round and on the lower level. That's why I didn't like this limitation. :-)
Anni2
Hello everyone! Tell me, please, on the first page they wrote that the W551 model constantly turns on and off the shades when baking. And what about the W500 model? And how audible is that? And then I met a review where the owner of the stove was very annoyed by such a click. I, too, am sensitive to such sounds and am now in thought. And according to the description and appearance, I liked 500.
Vasilevich
Switching on / off is not audible and this happens in all modes. It is only visually visible how quartz lamps reduce the glow. In some modes, upon reaching the required temperature, they do not gain maximum power at all. Only in complete darkness is an increase in the glow seen. There is noise with the fan on, which is somewhat high (although quieter than my microwave), but if annoying, it turns off in any mode.
Anni2
Quote: Vasilievich

Switching on / off is not audible and this happens in all modes. It is only visually visible how quartz lamps reduce the glow. In some modes, upon reaching the required temperature, they do not gain maximum power at all. Only in complete darkness is an increase in the glow seen. There is noise with the fan on, which is somewhat high (although quieter than my microwave), but if annoying, it turns off in any mode.
Thank you very much! All clear)
Lilyanna
Quote: Vasilievich
(I want to move all frying on the stove to the oven, memories of grandma's cooking in the Russian oven)
The taste of fried potatoes in a frying pan on the stove is different from the taste of potatoes in a Russian oven.
Vasilevich
Quote: LILIANNA
The taste of fried potatoes in a frying pan on the stove is different from the taste of potatoes in a Russian oven.
I agree, I still remember how I was lying on the couch of the Russian stove, the granny rattling with a grab and the aroma of fried potatoes in the kitchen.
Foty
Quote: Vasilievich
The taste of fried potatoes in a frying pan on the stove is different from the taste of potatoes in a Russian oven.

I tested the Bork W500 and cooked potatoes. It is certainly not the same as in the oven at my grandmother's, but it is also very tasty. More like potatoes from McDonald's, golden brown on top, soft inside))))

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