kartinka
marinastom, I tried, I have a lace with a switch from redmond - I bought it from the very beginning, I already put my own lace - nothing turns on. ...
marinastom
Well then, alas, only a master!
kartinka
I just sat down. The master called today and said to issue a refund, pack all the personal belongings and take it to the PvZ, gave several addresses, chose-collected-took it-gave it away. Pvz in the book basement - we were there with a shtebik like in a fur coat on the beach ... The courier delivered her home to me, and right there. They gave a funny piece of paper, barely interrogated that they would put a seal on it. I asked to add that the completeness was all, but they didn't care, they didn't, although I pulled everything out myself, showed it and then packed it again, it's good that at least a young man helped to pack it - I couldn't do it alone and it was heavy with all the contents. Misunderstanding on the hotline - one operator says, wait at least 10 days and then we will decide what and how, and then you will call us and we will tell you the solution, the other says - after returning in 2-3 hours, immediately call back (round-the-clock communication), tell about the refund and immediately start talking about the reservation-order for a new one while they are in stock. And there is already a difference in price, it has risen in price by about 500 rubles, and what about the subsequent delivery? One speaks for a fee, others for free. Some say - only a refund and subsequent purchase, others - replacement, confused. It's good that there is a guarantee, so I would have knocked around myself, although the general impression of ozone is not bad, only disagreements are incomprehensible. .. and without a stem - as without hands. ..
Bijou
kartinka, very sorry.

I decided for myself that if the second cartoon dies, then I will not sponsor the bunglers anymore, I will buy something else. ((
lana light
Quote: kartinka
there is already a difference in price, the price has risen by about 500 rubles, and what about the subsequent delivery? One speaks for a fee, others for free. Some say - only a refund and subsequent purchase, others - replacement, confused
Marin, last year I also had a marriage to buy a sandwich maker on Ozone. I took it with a good discount, the current selling price was much higher, by 1200-1300 rubles somewhere. I called Ozone on the free line, informed about the marriage and immediately said that I wanted not just to return the product, but to get the same one again. They just don't have a marriage exchange, they need to hand over the defective product and place an order for the same one. Bonuses for the difference in price were added to me so that the price is the same at which I originally bought the product. New order delivery was free
Rituslya
Quote: kartinka
and without a stem, as without hands. ..
if you were somewhere near me, you would give you Steba for temporary use just like that, because mine is standing and inactive.
And Ozone is a normal store, they will rule everything.
Umka
Quote: Lana's Light
Marin, last year I also had a marriage to buy a sandwich maker on Ozone. I took it with a good discount, the current selling price was much higher, by 1200-1300 rubles somewhere. I called Ozone on the free line, informed about the marriage and immediately said that I wanted not just to return the product, but to get the same one again. They just don't have a marriage exchange, they need to hand over the defective product and place an order for the same one. Bonuses for the difference in price were added to me so that the price is the same at which I originally bought the product. As far as I remember, the delivery of a new order was free
I had a similar situation with Shteba 2 years ago .... and the price was made as it was, but the delivery in our Moscow region at a certain cost is free. therefore kartinka, Marina, Have this in mind.
lana light
Now I looked in my personal account on Ozone, exactly is free instead of marriage, the goods came!
And she did not wait for the marriage to reach Moscow, but as soon as she gave it to the issuing point, she immediately called and they immediately took into account the return of the marriage! I remember this most of all struck me, because the goods have not actually returned back to the store, that is, they have not been sent to the service to confirm the marriage, but have already taken into account the return!
Bijou
Quote: Lana's Light
I remember this most of all struck me, because the goods have not actually returned back to the store, that is, they have not been sent to the service to confirm the marriage, but have already taken into account the return!
Here Ozone is not the cheapest store, but it's nice, damn it, that the "extra" money goes to such amenities in the service and communication with customers.
optimist
Quote: Rituslya
if you were somewhere near me, you would give you Steba for temporary use just like that, because mine is standing and inactive.
Rit, what cartoons do you use instead of Shteba, if it's not a secret?
Rituslya
optimist, Lenusenka, and there is no secret. I have a lot of these multicooker, so meat-vegetables in Element, compote in Philips, porridge in Tefala and plus other devices help.
I have nothing against Shteba, but for me personally there are other units in which it turns out tastier for us.
Shteba is healthy, but without zest. No zest for me personally.
optimist
Rituslya, clear.
I also cook not only in Shteba, I didn’t make friends with the regime of porridge and pilaf. Therefore, I cook all cereals in Panasonic, except for barley. And this is buckwheat, rice, etc.
kartinka
Girls, dear! !!! 💕💕🌷🌷🌷💕💕💕Thank you for your support!
Recently I took a second cartoon-element at a discount for myself and my daughter, one came from Moscow (thanks to Helen again) my daughter was traveling from Novosibirsk (many thanks again to Masha Ivanova and Kurochka) but ... Shtebik is the first love, but simple but soooo helper! I make meat in Elik, and Stebik - now for preparations - mini-autoclaves, milk, compote and jellied meat, ham and kupaty for a couple of songs, I love him very much; now I returned it -and just soooo it is not enough -successful with the recent purchase of a vacuum cleaner (thanks to the girls from the topic) I saw the breast -liked it very much, even though I was careful with it -what to do ... I really care about it, I don't want to overload it (whether I say this, considering a multicooker - even one incomprehensible purchase) I will wait for an answer from ozone - I really hope that I will be with Shteb again soon, my daughter also really likes him - since spring we are waiting for a discount on we can buy it on Black Friday.




Rituslya, and what kind of tefal for porridge - probably for porridge, you also need to take something later, but I was thinking about a pressure cooker Polaris 1502 but for 3 liters.optimist, and I made porridge in pieces in a cup I put a saucepan (small ceramic) in it porridge and water on the shoulders - it turns out well, but we mostly oatmeal, occasionally make other milk porridge in the morning. I don’t scud about pilaf - I do it the old fashioned way in a cauldron - I’ve never tried it in multi.
Duhka li
Girls, suddenly who needs it - in the Auchan Shteba online store DD2 XL costs 7950 rubles.
kartinka
I called Ozon today about the return - they said to wait for Shtebik at home on September 24, like the last time, how everything will turn out, I will unsubscribe.




OZet
I bought a new 6-liter teflon bowl AS5 for XL in Yulmart. Outwardly, it is slightly different from the old one bought a year and a half ago.

It looks like the metal is different - if you click on the bowl, it sounds different, and the coating looks a little different. And the lid on the bowl is not fixed - it has a very small side.

Has anyone already bought a new version of this bowl? What are your impressions?
Is it a fake, a marriage or an unscrupulous supplier?
lana light
She adapted Shtebik to the preparations for the winter. Already cooked lecho, givech, sote and vegetable salad from green tomatoes.
5 minutes on Vegetables 0.7 is enough even when laying vegetables to the maximum. After cooking, I did not forcibly bleed it, while the pressure drops, the vegetables reach a little more and 5 minutes of cooking is enough for the eyes! So the vegetables were cooked, but remained in pieces, not boiled.If you need to boil more, into porridge, then cook for 10-15 minutes
More details can be found in the topics
Green tomato salad with cabbage # 45
Eggplant saute in Tashkent style in multicooker pressure cooker # 24
I put a saute on the side of a bowl of vegetables and nothing! They sat down as they cooked, but did not run over the edges of the bowl.
Multicooker-pressure cooker-slow cooker Steba DD2 / DD2 XL
If, according to the recipe, you need to cook in stages or delicate vegetables that can be boiled, then I cook without pressure at 105-110 * C (if you cook for 5-10 minutes, then I put 110 * C, if for 20-30 minutes, then 105 * C is better) non-boiled under the lid.
Great stuff, by the way! Yesterday I cooked without pressure, like cucumbers in a tomato, the portion turned out to be slightly more than the maximum mark, I was afraid that she would run away even with non-boiling, but everything worked out, nothing escaped anywhere!
Olga_leka
And tell me, please, I tried to cook on the "vegetables" mode - steam came out of the hole for 2 minutes, then I did not wait - I pulled the piece of iron up with a toothpick. Everything clicked, the process started. Is it a marriage or did you have to wait? But in other modes this is not the case. The pressure builds up, the piece of iron rises and the preparation is in progress.
Rick
Maybe you didn't have enough liquid in the bowl? Sometimes for a normal set of pressure it is recommended to pour some water into the bowl. But it depends on the dish and the amount of liquid in it.
Olga_leka
I had a vegetable stew. Something similar to the above recipe. If not enough, then why did the steam go? Or just the amount of steam was not enough to lift the "piece of iron"?




It seems that Lana's Light on "Vegetables" does the same ...
In the last staff (dd1) I did it on meat, sometimes it burned. But everything always clicked. So I think - maybe it's not too late to return the purchase?
Venera007
Olga_leka, it seems to me that there was little liquid from the vegetables, so there was not enough steam to lift the valve. I make vegetable stews on languor. 20 minutes at 110 degrees with valve open
Bijou
Venera007, and if the valve is closed, does the float rise at this temperature?
Venera007
Bijou, I do not remember. I know for sure that it starts beeping like at the end of cooking when the valve is closed. I do not close the valve in Slow Mode. You can check. And I will check when I cook
Bijou
Venera007, not, if it beeps, then the float definitely raises.)) But it doesn't drive out high temperatures, as I understand it, so you can use it. Thank you very much, I have been wondering for a long time whether it is possible to do this, but all hands did not reach to check it myself. That is, the main question was "at what temperature the emergency valve will work" and our dialogue kind of hints that 110 grams is definitely not the right temperature.))
kartinka
Finally, my shtebik came to me! !! and the cans from a friend also broke off - the courier met like a native - he was even taken aback, but I explained to him that he was not the highlight of the program, but my dear assistant did not torture the courier for a long time - checked the completeness and inclusion, though he squeaks a little quieter - so delicately and touchingly
The peasant left, apparently, with a full feeling of the local madhouse.
Rick
Quote: Olga_leka

I had a vegetable stew. Something similar to the above recipe. If not enough, then why did the steam go? Or just the amount of steam was not enough to lift the "piece of iron"?




It seems that Lana's Light on "Vegetables" does the same ...
In the last staff (dd1) I did it on meat, sometimes it burned. But everything always clicked. So I think - maybe it's not too late to return the purchase?
Vegetables can be different in juiciness. And yes. There is still juice, and steam, respectively. But not enough for the float to rise. It is precisely in these cases that water is splashed into a saucepan.




Quote: kartinka
The peasant left, apparently, with a full feeling of the local madhouse.
I suspect that for a reason
Marina! At last! Even I was tired of waiting for your shtebik!
Now wash it properly so that it works for a long, long time!
kartinka
Rick, Zhenya, he has already dashed the jars for me - he has seen the apples - he is now cooking the beets for a couple, my hard worker, I’m on the stove, quickly how I lost the habit of sterilizing my hand burned a little - the portions were large - I cooked sauté and stew 10 liters at a time and laid it boiling - and with a stem - while the jars were waiting in line, I laid them out cold (isn't it possible? This turns out to be a mini-autoclave), matured, while the stem was not at home for the autoclave - it is necessary to take it for the next season. In stores, vegetable cans are gold, you can't buy it, but now everything is so juicy, I took at the fair -from 10 carrots -0.9 juice
By the way, how to roll up carrot juice? Has anyone done it? I squeezed out - poured 0.8 cans into anki-in shtebika for 10 minutes, so it brightened and the flakes precipitated. The sediment is ounda, but no color. ... I froze the rest of the juice from the bag of carrots. ...
Thank God that everything turned out this way -Ozon made a discount on the rise in price -the money remained all the same -I, only initially, I dragged the entire box assembly to the PVZ-I almost didn’t tear my hands off. And she wrapped the spare zero ring. And now the ring and even the cups did not even open, something in the jars is more convenient - only they take up space




Quote: Rick
Even I was tired of waiting for your shtebik!
Katko
kartinka, very happy for you
It's good that everything worked out well
kartinka
I opened the sweet apples - what can I say, I vacuumed half again - put it in the freezer - for comparison, it tasted like peaches - pears (only apples - I made spicy ones with mint syrup and ginger - from a tin can - peaches in s / s, and apples came out, a little richer than compote in taste, a little denser than baked in appearance, I probably will not strain more shtebik and the vacuum cleaner & bags too. Or so, make a large assorted package.
What else is delicious to cook, how about carrot juice - who will respond? I sting juice on a crane - can I attach a cake? If you sleep with sugar in a jar, twist the jar into a shtebik, for 10 minutes? I'm waiting for help from the audience while the cake goes into the freezer for cutlets - my daughter loves carrot. But the juice is excellent - I will still reap
Chip2
Hello!
After reading the positive reviews, I bought Shteba to replace the old man - Panasonic.
The joy was short-lived, on the fourth day of the cartoon she began to be capricious and by the evening she refused to work.
The problem is as follows: in the morning, when the cartoon was switched on, it started flashing dashes on the display and quietly clicking, after half a minute the display with normal indication turned on and the device started up. The broth was cooked, the cartoon was disconnected from the network. When it was turned on again, about an hour later, it started flashing continuously for about three minutes, then I disconnected it from the network and turned it on again. Shteba squeaked and turned on normally. Putting on the "frying" mode, I began to wait for heating, but the cartoon turned off. There are dashes on the board, does not respond to buttons. Now, when you turn on the scoreboard, various numbers and letters are running, then the devil is highlighted that, each time different. She was terribly upset.
It is clear that you will have to take it.
The question is: how often does Steba get married? Does it make sense to change to the same or look for something more reliable?

Bijou
Quote: Chip2
The question is: how often does Steba get married?
Yes, after Panasonic owners such an openly Chinese quality is perceived with bewilderment, I confirm.))
I have a second one because the first one broke. Some people from the topic (and not only) have a similar situation, alas. Someone manages to exchange it under a guarantee, someone himself obtains a payment from a "German manufacturer" for not the smallest amount of money, someone is lucky and the service can be repaired. But the simplest thing is to buy a new one if the warranty is over.

In your case, I would risk exchanging it - what if I'm lucky and the third round in one funnel will not reach in the next few years?)) So the cartoon is convenient, you get used to it and it's a pity to refuse. ((
kartinka
Quote: Bijou
cartoon is comfortable, you get used to it and it's a pity to refuse. ((
I will sign under every word. Your marriage has to be changed, as for this or another, I would choose this one again. A steel cup, not a mess itself. The potential is diverse. I myself recently encountered something like this, now a replacement has come - I'm still happy, but now I don't know how long the joy will last, I really hope for a long work. You choose, I would take the same.
Venera007
Chip2, I also have a second Shteba. The first one worked for almost a year, and just stopped turning on, I exchanged it under warranty. The second has been in operation for almost two years now. My friend did not break.
Although recently on Ozone I read the latest reviews about my beloved Stebik, there are a lot of breakdowns, maybe the last batch is defective ... I don't know ..
The multicooker is actually cool and I can't imagine what it can be replaced with.
marinastom
My Stacks have been plowing for four years ...
The first one, DD1, was upgraded by purchasing the board to DD2 NEW.
I think with horror what will happen if God forbid ...
Virgo, question. How long does it take to cook a huge whole beet? ..
The husband brought monsters from somewhere. I don't want to cut. I have adapted to steam and freeze.
Venera007
marinastom, I cooked the beets in vegetables for 7 minutes, though in water, not steamed. And then she did not relieve the pressure, she waited for the valve to lower itself. If it's too big, I think you can cook it for 10 minutes. You try to cook 1 piece, and it will be seen there
marinastom
Tanya, thanks!
They are so huge that only one will fit. I hope that...
Rick
I would put such a huge one for 20 minutes. I just put large ones on 15, also in the water. And the pressure dropped by itself.
marinastom
Yeah, Zhen, there was also such a thought. I just cooked a small one for fifteen minutes.
And I like it for a couple!
Rick
Marin, if you cook for a couple, how long will it take?
marinastom
I will try 25 and not play off.
Although, due to the fact that I pour a little water, the pressure is quickly released by itself.
Rick
Tell me then. I also want to try it for a couple. It turns out that you put a little more time than if you just cook in water?
marinastom
Zhen, I've been steaming almost all vegetables lately. If on Olivier, then the eggs are there too.
First, nothing cracks.
Secondly, it's useful.
Thirdly, nothing is repainted.
Fourth, everything is perfectly cleaned.





And the time? Yes, probably it is possible as well as in water. Maybe even faster. HZ ...
It seems to me that they will not be overcooked ...
Rick
Quote: marinastom

Zhen, I've been steaming almost all vegetables lately. If on Olivier, then the eggs are there too.
First, nothing cracks.
Secondly, it's useful.
Thirdly, nothing is repainted.
Fourth, everything is perfectly cleaned.
I know all this myself, but I cook it the old fashioned way in water
gala10
Quote: Rick
I cook the old fashioned way in water
My flaw ... I've been steaming everything for a long time. A completely different quality of cooked vegetables. I like it from Shteba. I put everything except the beets for 5 minutes in the "Vegetables" mode. Beets for 15 minutes. I do not relieve pressure forcibly. I don't like the "Steam" mode. And for eggs there is an egg cooker.
lana light
kartinka, Marina, I'm glad for you that Stebik is living with you again!
But something was also wrong with mine ... The other day I put 0.7 on Vegetables, after turning off the program, the temperature was only slightly above 80 * C, everything was raw. I put it again, again the same bullshit. I turned on the Soup, worked fine, after the end the temperature was over 100 * C.
And now I turned on Vegetables again, at the end it shows a temperature of 157 * C! Damn!
I hope that this is only a problem with Vegetables, I have not noticed this in other modes yet ...




But if suddenly something, then the new cartoon will definitely be Shteba again!
Mona1
Quote: marinastom

How long does it take to cook a huge whole beet? ..
Marine, I boiled beets on a wire rack, under the wire rack - a glass of water. The diameter of the beets was 10 cm - for Vegetables 0.7 for 20 minutes, the beets were so - - roaring on the teeth. The next time I did 30 minutes. Crumbled only in the very middle of the beets, about one and a half centimeters a piece. I decided that I would set 40 minutes the next time for this size, and if the diameter is even larger, then 50. But I don't like it to crunch. And as you need, then think for yourself.
I never relieve the pressure, I'm waiting for the unlock.
marinastom
Thanks to all!!!
Tomorrow I will report on the result.
lana light, Light, I have such garbage with the temperature on the scoreboard at Shteba, who lives in the village. I suspect that due to power surges.
Mona1, Tanya, I usually boil a lot of this beet and stuff it into the freezer, then take it out as needed.
But even without freezing, I did not notice that it was growing gloomy. Perhaps it is a little less soft in the heart, but I even like it: such a pleasant texture for the tooth ...
Mona1
Quote: marinastom

Mona1, Tanya, I usually boil this beet a lot and stuff it in the freezer, then I take it out as needed.
Eh, I'm lucky, but I wanted to freeze the pepper, but there is no place anymore.
marinastom
So I killed everyone a month ago and we bought a freezer for six drawers.
I don't know how long it will last me ...
Venera007

Quote: marinastom
and we bought a six-drawer freezer. I don't know how long it will last me ...
Well, for the season, it may be enough for a start, and then you have to run for the second)))

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