Pizza makers Princess 115000, Travola SW302T, Fagor MG-300

just split

aha, and who has the GF daFai dosvitaniya? or a separate topic with three or four active members of the forum?

And run on different Temko? Let's say I don't have Tristar, I don't seem to need that Temka, AHA, but what is an interesting recipe who will lay out and what? I will only learn about it in centuries, until someone in the Princess or the GF repeats it!

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Yes, no, we must all together, though. Any recipe for a pizza oven can be adapted to your model. And so to run from topic to topic with some questions, so only make yourself a headache and irritation from others.

Irsha, you are a meticulous and attentive girl, PLIZ !!!! walk on Temko. Collect reviews and characteristics by model. Make a memo. We will add if cho. And we will throw it to beginners as a reminder. And we ourselves will calmly discuss recipes and adapt others for our own ovens. Yes, new models to wait. And all will be well))))

Yes, and even better links under each model on the first page - and it would be for newbies Happiness!

aha, and who has the GF daFai dosvitaniya?

we all the same all come here prohibition and there is no protection, you can add GF to the name

Any recipe for a pizza oven can be adapted to your model.

aha everyone is not greedy, they share recipes and ideas

and it would be for beginners Happiness

Girls, I've got so many recipes here, I've seen enough and read that I just can't wait for delivery

and it would be for beginners Happiness!

newcomers would be happy if they thought and read what was written on their own, and did not ask on the almost thousandth page - and what should I buy
if you are lazy to read the basics - how can you cook in your kitchen, with your own products - only by copying other people's recipes?
who seeks - he finds

[Irsha]

Irsha, so you yourself imagine a newbie who chooses a model and reads almost 1000 pages, but I broke down for some 40, choking with saliva and crazy, from filtering ... And so grateful to the patient forum users who help to understand this stream Forgive us such unreasonable ... We are all different.

[SoNika]

SoNika, from experience I will say that section of the topic into two will give nothing.
They will still ask.

You just don’t need to write about what you don’t have. That's all.
You can speculate, of course))) but the sense from this will be 0.0.

almost 1000 pages

the fewer queries, the less repetitive information

but, really, I don't want to read it myself - it's easier to ask, there are always people willing to answer

Yes, I also think that sometimes controversy arises over helping beginners.

Exactly. Newbies, this is just an excuse. And it rushed ...

You just don’t need to write about what you don’t have.

for the fifth time I am writing - I only say that I've got - about my princess and my grass
maybe it's enough to return to this topic already?

[Irsha]

You just don’t need to write about what you don’t have.

Nuuu, maybe someone just wants to chat or promote a model
Irsha, let's live in peace
Have a nice day, everyone

Are the proportions the same as in the original recipe?

Dina, I'm sorry, didn't see the message right away! Yes, the proportions are the same, well, we can't do without hooliganism, of course, I also added a packet of coconut flakes to the filling and increased the sugar to 200 g. A very good recipe, but for the lazy, it's just a godsend! Today the pie has become even tastier!

or promote the model

Oh, this is easy here)))
Some are even specially sent copies for this.
True, in most cases, our girls do it quite adequately, describing both the pros and cons. But imbalances, of course, happen

[RepeShock]

RepeShock,

[thermostat]

And I think it would be nice if there were different topics on the same type of pizza makers with thermostat and without it... After all, the same multicooker is divided by name, although many have the same cooking principle.
And here everything is in a heap ... Another potential buyer comes, throws a spark with his question (and no matter how much we talk about the need to read at least "diagonally", no one will do this, the topic is really huge and its first half is about the only at that time to the Princess) and everything starts all over again. Here, half of the squandering pages could easily be deleted, there is little useful information in them, some kind of bazaar conversations. And what is interesting, the Princess and Tristar always collide, Gf is silent ...
It's still good Tortilla has not been added here ...
Sometimes there is even a desire to unsubscribe from the topic, there is very little positive left here ...

half of the rewiring pages could be easily removed,

As you wrote exactly
eh, who would take upon himself this courage - to model here

[win-tat]

Sometimes there is even a desire to unsubscribe from the topic, there is very little positive left here ...

Tanyusha, by no means! Why take these arguments of ours so personally? Let's not get discouraged, because the positive also depends on us. Well, about the "spark" - let's draw conclusions and try not to succumb to the "provocation"
win-tat,

Gf is silent ...

You praised us, right?

Here I am reading these 1000 pages (sitting in the bushes) and I see that they are arguing the same
One gets the impression that there is nowhere else and nothing to talk to these ladies. And these same blah blah blah every 100 pages, as we have noticed more than once.
Girls, let's better share the recipes, and not quarrel.
And I am also against division, recipes can be adjusted to any of your favorite units.
I bake according to your wonderful recipes, not only in the princess, but also in the oven and just in an ordinary frying pan. The main composition, sometimes, not the device.
And vaasche !! Let's live in peace!!!!

aha, and who has the GF daFai dosvitaniya? or a separate topic with three or four active members of the forum?

We like it here, we don't want a separate topic!

The topic is very good and necessary. But in fact, it would not be bad to throw away all the flood, the pages would be reduced and it would be easier for beginners to read and make a choice

And vaasche !! Let's live in peace!!!!

[k @ wka]

k @ wka, Yuliya K, you are so positive and persistent, maybe you can help here

[Yuliya K]

Yes, the proportions are the same, well, we can't do without hooliganism

It's even better! Salivation is no longer controlled

Yuliya K, Yul, why apologize, in these skirmishes disputes in general useful information is not visible.



Or maybe not to make a theme for each stove, but to make a theme of the choice of the PP? And leave recipes, reviews and tips here? In the topic of choice, everyone could calmly praise their stove in the format they are accustomed to, without straying this topic from the true path.

You praised us, right?

Yeah, GF are the most persistent, not amenable to provocations

we do not want a separate Temka!

Yul, don't cry, we will all be friends with stoves and live peacefully in Temka!

This is because the GF has just everything you need. Princess cover and height, timer, temperature controller. It is logical to assume that this is the best option, and those who choose the optimal one are not inclined to disputes, since the head is cold.
Oh, what will happen now, why did I say that

Oh, what will happen now, why did I say that

I sit and endure isovsehsil: girl_in_dreams: Meditating ..... my head is cold ... aa - aa ...

Oh what will happen now

Everything will be fine!

let's all be friends with stoves and live peacefully in Temko!

We are gourmets, we live in a separate apartment the topic, we miss you and the party here

Oh, what will happen now, why did I say it

I think after the last conversations, many have cooled down and the head has become cold

Oh, still a stove with a height of 4-4.5 cm ...

why did I say that

[Dina]

Oh, still a stove with a height of 4-4.5 cm ..

Dina, this is for you in the topic of miracle stoves, there are also such
Electric frying pan # 242

[Deana]

Deana, Dina, let's hope that this will appear in the near future, but for now you can buy an electric Miracle oven, it is deep. I am increasingly thinking about purchasing it, it is not expensive, but not high-speed, alas.

[win-tat]

win-tat, I looked at them, they have nothing in the lid, there is a current at the bottom of the shade, as long as I remember.

but not high-speed, alas.

This is what stops, Princess High-speed, that's the beauty. Is it really unrealistic to make the Princess taller, as an option? Not much

they have nothing in the lid, there is a current at the bottom of the shades, but I remember.

Dina, if the Miracle of the USSR, then her heating is just in the lid, but there are also more modern models (with other, however, names), they can have heating from above and below, In my opinion, the topic contains examples of such electric frying pans ...

I've had two such miracles. Probably Soviet, but made literally, as they say, the other day. They weren't impressed at all, sooo long. Probably, they were wrong with me, because many devuli were delighted with their miracles.

[torbochka]

torbochka, thank you, I’ll go and read it again, I don’t remember those, I probably missed it. But are they all not fast? I would like to be like Princess only a little higher.

Girls! so there is also a small stove Kalorik, there is just the right height, but the area is smaller. Not a bad stove so.
there she is

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Today I have thigh fillets with prunes and apples in the GF on a tip from Zhenya-Zena
How delicious! The recipe turned up in time, thanks to Zhenya! Today it has finally warmed up outside, and at home there are also batteries like fire ... What an oven here! There is no price for our stoves for such cases! Well, now in detail ...
Filehki prepared in the evening: walked with a tender, seasoned with salt, pepper, added a spoonful of vegetable oil, mixed in the refrigerator, marinated. So today I already had a ready-made semi-finished meat product. I put them in a mold, on top of apples, prunes, onion rings (the onion is already young, juicy!), On top of mayonnaise and in a cold oven - a timer for 20 minutes (without a form, I think it will be less in time), temperature max. -210, then cheese and another 10 min. She let stand off. oven for 10 minutes. And delicious and looks very festive! (this is still a photographer from me!)

[Julia]

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Today I have thigh fillet with prunes and apples

Julia, I can imagine how delicious it is.

Today it finally warmed up outside, and at home there are also batteries like fire

Lucky, we have a nightmare on the street, brr, +2, windyuga, rain, snow, hail smashes in the face like bullets

we have a nightmare on the street, brr, +2, windmill, rain, snow, hail smashes in the face like bullets

Oh! Is it really going to get colder again here ?! Usually, what you have, then in a couple of days with us! I still hope that our warmth to you this time!

In Moscow, they promise up to +21, but here it is not higher than +7, because we will not see warmth ...

nastasija, according to Arieta there is nothing here, because it is of poor quality, poor coverage.
These are the reviews we had here from girls

Well, it's in vain you so about aritta. I bought it here on the site and I can't say anything bad. I needed such a stove to fry. It has a metal top cover and a nice, tall platform. (Here
wrote that the princess burst plastic on the top cover) I have a tristar too, I handed it over for repair, because I got a problem one. So I can safely put the ariette and cook on the countertop, but I'm afraid the tristar, a very small height between the bottom and the countertop. In Ariette I cooked cutlets, chicken, pizza, Tsvetaevsky pie, chapatta cakes, pancakes, pancakes, cabbage, well, in general, whatever my heart desires, and I was not offended by the coating. When I was buying it, I was warned that there is black soot upstairs, but it appears on me, but it does not bother me. But on top of the metal, the paint bubbled up a bit and peeled off in places where steam came out. So Ariette is no worse. It all depends on the build quality of the product, someone has crazy stoves, someone has turtles, like mine. Personally, I needed a large oven for frying, the aritte turned out to be very small for me, so I bought a second tristar. Now I bought myself an analogue of a princess with a diameter of 36 cm on the tao, without a regulator, with a groove for draining liquid from the top cover, there are 2 buttons to turn off the top and bottom. This is the size for my family. Now I will sell Ariette, but not because she is somehow bad, but because I no longer need it, I have more frying pans for the stove.

So in the turtle princess there is just a good high height. I also have it, this is a set with GF)))

Ani visited Ariete anna_k
She sold it and bought the Clathronic.

I bought this for Arietta. I really like it. If it were not for the small size, nothing would sell it.

Good day!
Looking at your disputes, I could not stand it and specially registered at the Bread Maker to write this post
At one time, having bought the GF, I shoveled this whole topic from the 1st page.
This, of course, was that kind of work, and the topic was probably 2 times less.
Now, in search of comparative information, it is simply unrealistic for a beginner to read all 1000 pages.
And, looking at your controversies, I want to offer such help to beginners (this is done in various forums on electronics).
Completely redo the first post (there is too much confusing information, you can take it under the spoilers).
The first post provides all the basic information on each model of pizza chains according to a certain scheme, with pictures.
Or posts are created for each model with a detailed description, those. characteristics, pros and cons, and in the first links to them are given, at the very beginning.
Then a newbie, entering a topic, will immediately see all the necessary information and will not ask the very questions that cause such heated discussions.

Figuratively speaking, for me the ideal would be if

1.Workmanship, power and design would take from the clathronic,
2. int. volume and coverage like a tristar or princess (and you can even a centimeter higher or a sliding structure),
3.Precise temperature controllers (and it would be better with an indication of temperatures on this regulator!) And time like tortilla
4. moreover, for the lower and upper surfaces, the temperature controls are separately or (see the next item)
5. Ideally, electronic control from the board, like most multicooker, with the ability to set the manual mode and program your own.
6. a flat-folding structure like that of a gf, ariete or jardeko.

I would buy such a stove, for me it would be ideal.

All this is on the Tao, I bought mine at a bargain. rf

[sarman]

Quote: Yuliya K on Apr 27. 2017, 13:13
Ani visited Ariete anna_k
She sold it and bought the Clathronic.

sarman, Alyona, this is not my quote!

Completely redo the first post

All this is good and wonderful, but there is no moderator in this topic, and at the moment I think no one will undertake this titanic work.
And there are not so many stoves in this topic - OL, TR, GF. We do not take into account the grass, it goes from the owners mainly as the second number, as the only copy. few consider. So I repeat, reading even "diagonally" you can get an idea of ​​the device, in the end we buy "not a cow". And besides, there are no global differences between them, except for the presence of a thermostat and a timer. And all the main ones. characteristics and descriptions of devices are available on the websites of online stores.
In the end, we do not sell them here, but simply share the results of our labors.