Mini-ovens Steba KB 41, KB 23

[vladilera]

vladilera, In KV 23, the backlight comes on when you turn the timer, that is, when you turn on the stove. I think the KV 19 is the same. You cannot turn on the backlight separately.
These stoves differ in size outside and inside. Offsite:
KV 23 24 x 33 x 29/28 x 46 x 39
KB19 22 x 30 x 28/26 x 43 x 36
volume, power (1500 for KV23 and 1400 for KV23 ECO and 1300 for KV19) and, yes, spit only in KV23. These are all differences.
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Furnace Steba KB 27 U.2, volume 20 liters
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30 x 30.5 x 22.5 / 28 x 43 x 36
She has a spit, but the timer is up to 60 min. But the temperature is up to 250g.

Thank you very much for your detailed answer!
More about the backlight, can I ask? (I want it more than a spit).
Is it light from hot heating elements from top to bottom or is it somehow implemented differently (on the side of the lamp, for example)?

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This is the light from the glowing heating elements from top to bottom, or it is somehow implemented differently (on the side of the lamp, for example)

in the right, upper, far corner of the lamp, covered with a plafond. There is not enough light from heating elements

Thank you very much for your answer, I also thought so about the heating elements. It's just that there is now Steba kb 19, a Russian "leaflet" is stuck on its packaging box, where it is written that there is a backlight in it (as in its characteristics on many store sites where it is sold)
In real life, the photo of the right side of it looks like this. The left half is the same, only without convection holes.
Hike, there is no lamp illumination in it? When you turn on the timer on any program, only the heating elements turn pink. Which small Steb stove has it exactly? Not far from work in Yulm-te there is a Steba kb 23 Eco on order.
The 27th model has not yet been caught, it has already passed, they said.

[vladilera]

vladilera, I have 23 model. The backlight is wonderful, makes me happy, and seduces everyone passing by with aromas and views. It seems not eco, took on ozone

Thank you! Is this lamp (plafond) visible when the stove is off? That is, you can "identify" the presence of a real backlight not in operation?
Photo would be nice if you can

In real life, the photo of the right side of it looks like this. The left half is the same, only without convection holes.
Hike, there is no lamp illumination in it?

If not from Moscow, you can write to them
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or I'll try to call and ask tomorrow. just not to forget, the memory is maiden

Which small Steb stove has it exactly?

Yes, in mine is the same light bulb, specially at night it ran into the kitchen, looked

Thank you very much, now everything is clear!
I am from Vladimir. On the site 🔗 it seems that it should also be officially, so it is also written about the illumination of the 19th model there.
Model 23 Eco also has such a light bulb (if you believe the photo on the Yulm-ta website, although many sites and on the 19 model have a photo with a spit, which is not in it).
It seems like Eco has a different coating and a power of 1400 W

I am from Vladimir

I'll try to call them tomorrow.

On the site 🔗 like it should be officially too

This is the representative office, and the store is from it
It seems that KB19 still has no backlight, I found only such a photo on the internet

It seems like Eco has a different coating

And where did you find the coverage? It's interesting, I thought it was the same

Thank you. On their home site 🔗
Apparently, "silver" is something covered with a stainless steel, maybe it limits the heat dissipation to the outside, if the power is less for all models than without Eco.
For a price they are a thousand more expensive than non-Eco (though not in one store). We have nowhere to see it live, only on order in online stores. You don't want to look for the 27th model anymore, with the same size as the 19th, it is hard to believe now that it has a backlight whatever they write on the site. I didn’t really explain looking at it yesterday at night: the 19th model (more suitable in size) was brought to order from Enter, I chose a small one with convection and lighting. It was written about her both on the website and on the box. At home, I already began to find out - is it really such a weak light from the heating of heating elements is considered a backlight. Photo of real tiles was taken yesterday to show. I tried the oven once, everything worked out well, but without backlighting it doesn't please
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Although from the picture on the same "native" site, the highlight on the 27th is clearly visible.


I’ll think even then ... Or 23 Eco ... This 19 has not yet figured out where to now

[Valeria]

Valeria, the color of the case is indicated on the offsite. I have a 23 stainless steel, apparently, 23 ECO covered with silver paint (I haven't seen it live)

27 are on sale in Comfort-Maximum
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and has not yet risen in price

I chose between 19, 27 and 23. 23 have more functions and she herself is 3 liters more than the 27th. In size, 27 is taller than 19, and 23 is wider than 27.
If the backlighting is essential, you can return the stove, since the description does not correspond to reality.

Elena, and I mean the same. It's just that the thermal insulation of the case also depends on the coating, it can be not only for beauty. Although I also like this 19th stainless steel how it looks.
About the return - it would be good, but something is hard to believe. There are often inconsistencies on the sites, does this really work as an argument for a return? Moreover, on the "website of the representative office" and even on the box it is pasted that there is a backlight. The box is intact, but the packing foam has been thrown away.
We just recently in the same Enter by mistake ordered a vegetable cutter-harvester of the wrong color. Noticed at work only after opening the box. Even so, they referred to the clause from the document on "consumer protection" that as a "complex household appliance" it falls under the exception and cannot be exchanged. Or how do they act in such cases? These stoves were quickly disassembled and now they are not on the store's website, but it was written about the illumination both in the description and in the characteristics.

In the development of the topic and the completion of its story.
They brought home Steba kb 23 Eco now. It looks very nice too, and finally the real highlighting pleases!
Many thanks to Elena and Aygul for quick answers about how she should be, when it is written in the characteristics that she is!

[vladilera]

vladilera, with the purchase! Cook and enjoy !!!
My oven makes me more and more happy Today I made a potato casserole with minced meat and egg + sour cream + cheese. The husband appreciated the business

Thank you, Aygul, absolutely!
And about the 19th model, it is still strange, even in the brochure on the home site steba.com it is written that it has a backlight.
But I showed a photo of the purchased copy here, "maybe the party was like that"



From Steba Avenue



And so...

[Valeria]

They brought home Steba kb 23 Eco now. It looks very nice too, and finally the real highlighting pleases!

Valeria, congratulations on purchasing your dream! Enjoy cooking!

It is a pity that there are such errors in descriptions, especially when they are repeated everywhere

[Elena]

Thank you, Elena!
The dream is to finish the renovation just now, Steba is not yet in the kitchen, but is already settling in.


I'm not very familiar with this site yet, I have not found a similar recipe branch yet, although I came across for other different techniques.
"I am tormented by vague doubts" - maybe these are not mistakes everywhere, but I got some left or trial copy of this model

Here is the "first pancake" in the new stove "in the heat of the heat"



I really liked the backlit!
By the way, in the attached papers it is now written: "The internal illumination of the camera is on in all modes."
The same paper on the 19th model did not contain this phrase. The store, upon returning, agreed that she was not there.
It remains to wait for Elena to be told on Monday - should she, in principle, be in this model

Here is the "first pancake" in the new stove "in the heat of the heat"

I liked the backlit very much!

Very beautiful and delicious! Yes, backlit is much more convenient.
We do not have a separate section for the oven, just look in the subforum:
BAKERY PRODUCTS
CULINARY RECIPES
and others
the section that best suits your dish. You post there, here is a link to the recipe and time-temperature

With a start!

Hell Chuchelkin cheesecakes without convection for 230g for 5 minutes, then for 10 minutes for 200g, then 190 grams. the remaining time (15 minutes) seemed to me not enough, I put another 10 minutes.
The cheesecakes turned out to be very tasty, but not photogenic, so I did not shoot

unfortunately, they did not call me back, and I myself forgot to call them back, I find out about the backlight, I will unsubscribe.

Dear KB 23 users, may I ask you to take a close-up photo of the switches? In the photo of the stove as a whole and in the instructions, it is impossible to understand what is written on them.

[S-t]

S-t, Thank you. I also ask around. The switches all rotate without clicks, i.e. is it possible to set intermediate values? Between MIN TEMP (what is it, by the way) and 100, for example? Than on the PROG switch. are 0 and the leftmost icon different? Does the blue light on when the time is at zero?

AVZ, I cannot master these additional questions ... real users will better answer them. Until I had a chance to test the oven personally.

The upper and lower switches rotate smoothly, intermediate values ​​respectively. The middle one is discrete, the leftmost icon is only the lower heating element. The blue light is off when the time is at "0".

[vladilera]

vladilera, Thank you! Handles with corrugated circles look very stylish. The minimum temperature was not measured? And in general, the stove will turn on if, for example, the temperature is set exactly between 90 and 0?

I haven't measured it yet. In different modes, the temperature may differ - convection, they wrote here, reduces it. But at 23 Eco hasn't noticed it yet, sealing and thermal insulation are advertised higher.
On your second question, the stove will turn on.

[vladilera]

vladilera, thank you! If you will cook something, please unsubscribe to the topic, it is very interesting to read and see.

[S-t]

S-t, Valery, can you tell us about the lighting in KB19 and KB27?
Are there any KV19 with backlight?

But at 23 Eco ... the sealing and thermal insulation is advertised higher.

So it is, the other day I looked at the photos of conventional and IVF
This is especially noticeable on the door. This is probably why the glass on my stove does not heat up, but at the ECO it heats up a little.

Here's from the Eco-model brochure:



But this brochure also says that the 19 model has a backlight

Can you please tell me what is the handle for removing the grate-pallet? I can't figure out, does it come with both KB 23 and KB 23 ECO?

This is how she is



Yes. It is very convenient to use, it holds the grill well. She was included in the kit for the 19th model.
And for 23 models, another type of grab is attached to remove the spit.

And for 23 models, another type of grab is attached to remove the spit.

Whoa! That is, the complete set is obtained: stove + baking sheet + pallet + grate + spit + handle-holder + grip? Valeria, you have ECO, right? I wonder which one comes with just KB 23 ...

Yes. They have the same equipment.
For several days I had the 19th model, there was not only a skewer and, accordingly, a "grip" for it.
(Except for the backlight, due to the lack of which I changed that model)

Yes. They have the same equipment.

Thank you .... Hooray! They brought my stove! I completed the first task successfully - two mini-sharlets were successful (one was eaten no less successfully).

Congratulations! And new culinary successes for you!

Congratulations! And new culinary successes for you!

Good day!
Came from a general topic about mini-ovens.
I read a few pages ago about the 19 model, that there is no backlight in it.

Maybe someone else bought this model for themselves, is there a backlight, what if it was a marriage?

Thank you

[S-t]

S-t, Valery, can you tell us about the lighting in KB19 and KB27?
Are there any KV19 with backlight?
So it is, the other day I looked at the photos of conventional and IVF
This is especially noticeable on the door. This is probably why the glass on my stove does not heat up, but at the ECO it heats up a little.

the KV 19 has no backlight. Probably a mistake in the description. Backlight starts from KB 23

Good day!
I bought a KB 23 model and took it to my dacha. And now I decided to bribe a baking sheet, but I don't know the size.
Girls, please, write down the exact dimensions of the baking sheet.

Valya, outer dimensions (edges of the sides) of the baking sheet: 328 x 272 mm
Apparently "store" dimensions: 33 x 27 cm

Thank you!

[vladilera]

vladilera, Thank you!
We ourselves are not local, without stoves Well, after all, it’s not destiny to measure itself, as they say, And thanks to you, today I’ll look at the trays

I'll brag a little more. First try:

Yesterday and today - the second and third. In the process:

And as a result:

All in all, the stove is really great.

How delicious everything is! I also baked cupcakes today. And she discovered several shortcomings of her oven.
KV 23 Eco stove
The temperature does not correspond to the set temperature (We already wrote about this, and this is true. The muffins had to be baked for 25 minutes at 180 grams, according to the recipe. But after 25 minutes they did not even rise and did not cover with a crust, although I preheated the oven. Now I will look thermometer, measure.

The baking sheet and wire rack come off the top and middle levels. She put on the casserole and almost fell out because the leading edge of the grate fell. This is most troubling.

Tell me, is it the same for you? Or was it so lucky for me? And is this considered a marriage?

[AVZ]

AVZ, With new clothes!

Please clarify the temperature when baking on the thermometer, and which one was set too, it is not visible in the photo

The baking sheet and wire rack come off the top and middle levels. She put on the casserole and almost fell out because the leading edge of the grate fell. This is most troubling.

When baking, in my opinion, it is better to put in a cold oven.
The baking sheet and grate, if not completely inserted, or sometimes slip when taken out, so I pay attention to this and climb there in at least one mitten in order to have time to grab, if anything. I don't think this is a marriage

Please clarify the temperature when baking on the thermometer, and which one was set too, it is not visible in the photo

Oh, I didn't see the thermometer! Yes, please tell me the degrees and how much time they cooked. And did you put cupcakes in the cold oven?

When baking, in my opinion, it is better to put in a cold oven.
The baking sheet and grate, if not completely inserted, or sometimes slip when taken out, so I pay attention to this and climb there in at least one mitten in order to have time to grab, if anything. I don't think this is a marriage

Thanks for the advice! I am a novice cook and oven for only two days I will try to put baked goods in a cold oven)
I went and checked the grate in the night, and the truth is, if you push it all the way, it doesn't seem to fall out.

[lemona]

AVZ, With a new thing!

Thank you!

Please clarify the temperature when baking on the thermometer, and which one was set too, it is not visible in the photo

Oh, I didn't see the thermometer! Yes, please tell me the degrees and how much time they cooked. And did you put cupcakes in the cold oven?

The thermometer is about 150 degrees, because someone very smart (we will not point the finger) fiddled with the baking sheet for a very long time and kept the door open. I always put in a hot oven, no matter what I cook, meat or cookies. Since the mini-oven heats up to the desired temperature very quickly, I turn it on 10 minutes before cooking, this is quite enough (but at the maximum temperature in it I have not done anything yet).
In a specific recipe, it felt like it should have been 180-200 degrees, so I turned the switch a little less than 210. According to the readings, the heating turned out to be just a little more than 180. But I kept the oven open for a shamelessly long time, so the picture is less. To quickly compensate for this, I turned on convection, and the situation soon returned to normal. In general, I wanted to adapt my smallest cast-iron frying pan for this business, but it did not fit between the shades, alas.
lemona, about the time. In most recipes, the times are approximate, so you need to know roughly how much the dish will cook and what signs of its readiness (or at least what is the time to check). These muffins (they are actually muffins) must be baked according to the recipe "... 25 minutes, or until the tops spring back slightly if you press lightly." ("Bake for 25 minutes or until tops spring back when lightly touched."). I put the call on 20, and after the expiration, I just took out and pierced one thing with a toothpick. It came out dry, so I took out the entire baking sheet.
The lattice can, firstly, be installed in different ways (with the rods up or down - experiment, suddenly it keeps more secure in some position), and secondly, did you try to get it out of the kit with a special holder?