Lazareva Anastasia
Are there any bread makers in a steel case, except for Bork? all the appliances in the kitchen are selected in this style, and bork without a dispenser ... but you want everything at once - both a window and a dispenser, and so that it is beautiful ... maybe you want a lot?
Elena Bo
Believe me, the dispenser is not the most important part of the bread machine.
Bread Maker Severin BM 3989
X / stoves in a steel case

Bread maker Daewoo DI-3207S
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Bread maker Kenwood BM 256
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Bread maker Kenwood BM 350
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Bread maker Bork BM SBA 1062 SI
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KIA-6507
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Rita
Moulinex 3000 is also in met. case, but no dispenser.
Alexandra
What is so important about a dispenser? There will be a dispenser - there will be no window and it will be impossible to admire the ongoing mystery of raising the dough unhindered, without the risk of lowering it. And spy on the batch without losing temperature in heated modes. I was very saddened by the lack of a window in Panas, the dispenser only partially comforted
Lazareva Anastasia
Well, I, like most people, probably want to have everything at once, but that doesn't happen, as I see. the thought that these two details are incompatible for some technical reason has already visited me ... although, in the end, you can buy a bigger stove (with a dispenser) even when I am skilled in the manufacture of bakery products
and what kind of company is DeLonghi? I don't want to offend the owners, but I have not seen such a company in stores ... but yesterday I found stoves in a steel case.
Alexandra
Just to study means to often bake small breads. And this is Bork or Kenwood
Elena Bo
Lazareva Anastasia, really, take Bork. There are 2 buckets (of different shapes) and are being programmed.
Alexandra
Quote: Alexandra

What is so important about a dispenser? There will be a dispenser - there will be no window and it will be impossible to admire the ongoing mystery of raising the dough unhindered, without the risk of lowering it. And spy on the batch without losing temperature in heated modes. I was very saddened by the lack of a window in Panas, the dispenser only partially comforted

Elena BO,

I'll tell you one terrible secret under a big secret.
I was so carried away by "manual programming" - using only the first batch in different modes, especially with heating, removing the blade and using the whole or part of the heated program as proving, changing the number of mixes and proving by the same extraction of the blade as
I SO HAND DIDN'T COME TO THE FUNCTION OF PROGRAMMING IN BORKA


While this is a valuable option
Nod1
I can only advise, after a long study of this forum, that all models of bread makers are similar in their parameters to each other in most cases: in internal details, in their baking parameters, in external characteristics; because they are all going to the PRC.
We also wanted the stove to be metal, to bake and knead everything, to be programmable and cost reasonable.
But the stores offer only one and the same, widely known brands, stoves from Panasonic, Moulinex, Kenwood of old models and plus recently released new items from Bork, Tefal. As if there are no more other firms on the market. After a long search, I found several models for myself: Daewoo DI-9154; Vitesse VS-422; Binatone BM2068. All of them are much cheaper than the stoves imposed on us in every store, from manufacturers who are heard by everyone and are visible from all screens. Therefore, my wife and I have settled on the latest model Binatone BM 2068 and are very happy about it. We bake according to recipes from the forum, so far everything is working out.
Once again, do not think that I impose my oven on someone, I only advise on the basis that, during the search period, I felt them all with my own hands, touched them, revised them, and therefore I have at least some idea of ​​them and how they are made , although they all gather in one place according to the answers of the sellers themselves.
Rusya
Why are the dispenser and viewing window incompatible? The DeLongy 755s have both. But the case is not steel.
Although, to be honest, I used the dispenser 2 times, and I manually throw in the additives. True, I'm on maternity leave, maybe when I go to work then it will come in handy ...
Yulya.Yalta
And then there is Kenwood 450-c dispenser, viewing window, and stylish stainless steel case

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poiuytrewq
Yulya.Yalta, can I ask you here too? ..

I also have a Moulinex stove with a stainless steel body. So I was tortured to scrub its surface from the traces of playful fingers. Is it my surface that is of poor quality, or is the surface of your stove also difficult to scrub?
Yulya.Yalta
I went and felt and checked for old fingers - nothing remains at all
poiuytrewq
Yulya.Yalta, I say, an almost perfect stove.
Val
Good day to all!!!
This is my first time writing, but I have already visited the forum more than once and read a lot of information. Until now, I am faced with the choice of which stove to buy? At first, after reading the information, I considered two options - Panasonic 255 and Delonghi 125, but the price for Panasonic ..... We decided to buy Delonghi, but when they came to the store and saw the offered models with their eyes, my husband "fell in love" with Kenwood 450 and insists on buying it, because for him the steel case and the quality factor of the assembly have become decisive. I, too, felt sympathy for her, the only thing that bothers me is her less programming ability than Delongy's and a higher price.
Owners of Kenwood 450, please respond and state your arguments in its favor, otherwise I don't even know what result to come. I tried to find similar information on the internet, but apart from your (already our) site, there are very few useful tips, mostly some offers from online stores.
mr.Flasher
Quote: Val

Thank you, I was at this address, but ... I have not decided yet
Personally for you my little tip.
Val
mr. Flasher!
I am grateful to you for your answer. Little by little, the "picture" of the "porridge" that is in my head begins to gather. How "short" do you have this oven and how often do you use it?
When you were choosing a stove to buy, what influenced your choice and did you consider, like me, Delongy 125, if so, why was the choice made in favor of Kenwood? For me this is essential. The fact is that, just like you, I also live in Ukraine, and for me the question of the cost of the oven is also important: I do not find it possible to overpay for the bakery just because the model is a "brand" or only because the model is the latest. I am looking for a reliable, solid oven (but not primitive at all), mainly for baking bread and kneading dough. I bake muffins and cakes beautifully in the oven, so these functions are not defining for me in the oven, but only as a pleasant addition.

Thank you.
mr.Flasher
Quote: Val

mr. Flasher!
I am grateful to you for your answer. Little by little, the "picture" of the "porridge" that is in my head begins to gather. How "short" do you have this oven and how often do you use it?
When you were choosing a stove to buy, what influenced your choice and did you consider, like me, Delongy 125, if so, why was the choice made in favor of Kenwood? For me this is essential. The fact is that, just like you, I also live in Ukraine, and for me the question of the cost of the oven is also important: I do not find it possible to overpay for the bakery just because the model is a "brand" or only because the model is the latest. I am looking for a reliable, solid oven (but not primitive at all), mainly for baking bread and kneading dough. I bake muffins and cakes beautifully in the oven, so these functions are not defining for me in the oven, but only as a pleasant addition.

Thank you.
How short - no more than a month.
I did not consider Delongey, because I do not trust this company. She is not old enough (in our market). Actually for this I know absolutely nothing about these ovens.
Kenwood in Dnepropetrovsk is cheaper than Panasonic 255, which is inferior in functionality to Kenwood 450. And it is still difficult to find Panasonic ...

I would advise you to take either the time-tested (Panas 255), or something programmable ... I understandably leaned towards the Kenwood choice. That and the design bribed ...

Shl the backlight and the window are cool !!!
Val
mr. Flasher!
Thanks for the answer.

Most likely, in my doubts, the cost will prevail. Panasonic has only 254th model in our city (Nikolaev) and its price is 2 thousand. UAH , Kenwood 450 - 2100 UAH I saw both models only in the Megamax supermarket, in other stores - they were never brought. Why did you become interested in Kenwood 450? Firstly, it was too good and functional, and secondly, I found it in the online store for UAH 1330 + delivery 70.After your first reply to the online store I wrote a request about the authenticity of their info. I am waiting for an answer, if "duck", then I will probably stop at Delongy. How is it in Dnipro? Is Kenwood much cheaper than ours?

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