shade
Peace be with you bakers!

Alexander is right
Well, or buy a penny with such an expectation that if it doesn't cry, send it to the landfill and buy a new one
Marpl
A person basically does not want to buy a normal stove at a normal price. I have Panasonic plowed for 8 years almost every day, and Binaton refused to bake after 4 months, though the money was returned (now such equipment is not being repaired, but only activated). Someone may like to change the equipment under warranty, but this is an extra hassle, for me it is better to immediately buy a normal thing and use it without any dirty tricks.
shade
Peace be with you bakers!
Well, my baguette holder is almost 10 years old, but I changed the bucket, and that is due to the fact that before you fix something you need to understand / read - consult \ how to do it - well, in short, my joint
OlgaGera
Quote: Kesha
reliable and inexpensive bread maker within 4000 rubles. It is desirable with the availability of spare parts and inexpensive.
Most likely it will not work. Cheap ones are not repairable, or s / h costs like HP itself.
I bought LG for the dacha. Worked for 3 months. Something happened to the board, 2 programs are working. The rest died. It stands like a suitcase without a handle.
Bork is convenient service. I changed the oven and buckets twice.
Or buy normal HP, or get ready to change them often.





Quote: Kesha
I don't understand why pay that kind of money, if for 3,500 rubles you can buy a bread maker with exactly the same functions.
Actually, this is the same if we compare a VAZ car and a Mercedes-Benz.
Car and car, but the difference is, and not only in price)

Alex100
Quote: Marpl

A person basically does not want to buy a normal stove at a normal price. For me, Panasonic has been plowing for 8 years almost every day, and Binaton refused to bake after 4 months, although the money was returned (now such equipment is not being repaired, but only activated). Someone may like to change the equipment under warranty, but this is an extra hassle, for me it is better to immediately buy a normal thing and use it without any dirty tricks.

Totally agree with you . Miser pays twice
Sedne
Quote: Kesha
Honestly, I don't understand why pay that kind of money, if for 3,500 rubles you can buy a bread maker with exactly the same functions.
Well, well, well, well again.
OlgaGera
Sedne, Svetlanamost likely the person chooses the first HP. Later, when the "dog eats" understanding will come)
Sedne
Quote: OlgaGera
Sedne, Svetlana, most likely the person chooses the first HP.
But no, not the first
Quote: Kesha
There was Mystery, bought for 1800 rubles, worked for 5 years, broke down, no spare parts, the model was discontinued.
OlgaGera
yes, I missed it. all HP are idle.)))
Sedne
Quote: OlgaGera
all HP are idle.)))
And I love them, although there is a kneader, I really love Panasonic, I really like bread in it, I also love Brand, but 1 bucket did not serve me even 2 months, 2, the coating peeled off, I got Polaris from a friend, I got baked goods in it not very much, the programs are horrible, it overheats terribly, I have mastered the manual mode so completely, in Brand with the same settings (manual) the bread just tastes better, but I really like the shape of the bucket and there are 2 of them in the set, I definitely do not recommend Polaris.
OlgaGera
I baked bread without kneading. Micra with oven function. The bread is tastier, more aromatic. But ... it's a matter of time. We'll have enough of it, we will want something else again.
Fortunately, there is a choice!
Kesha
Quote: Alex100
Totally agree with you . Miser pays twice
Alex100, unfortunately the moderator rubbed my post, although there was nothing offensive there, the meaning was as follows, I see no reason to buy a Panasonic bread machine 3 times more expensive, which will last the same 5 years and whose repair will be equal to the cost of a new bread machine.

5 years I baked bread on Mystery everyday, sometimes 2 times a day (bread and dough), the bread turned out to be excellent, different types, the only thing I did not do was cakes, but once a year I am ready to buy them in the store and did not cook jam, as I read here on the forum, that this can ruin the bread maker, baked muffins several times, but this is a delight, not for the bread maker, it has a different purpose, daily bread and different dough. In the evening, I put the ingredients, in the morning, a ready-made puffy bread.
Why do I need a bread maker 3 times more expensive if it will do the same, I just don't understand.
Is that how they wrote "a show-off".




Quote: shade

Peace be with you bakers!

And antlers

But at the expense of the kneader, I agree with you for all 1000%

It so happened that I have three bread makers, and they are mainly used as kneaders, well, maybe in a country house that I also bake bread in it, but those that are at home - well, once every half a year
shade, I recommend looking at industrial and semi-industrial used kneaders on the internet, sometimes they sell them for a penny, and there they are industrial, that is, the reliability is much higher than household ones.
Chef
unfortunately the moderator rubbed my post, although there was nothing offensive there,
P.3 PF. A month of rest.
Love Yu
Hello everybody!!! I want to buy a bread maker for a long time. Found an online store bread house. Their prices seem to be lower. I ordered Panasonic and they called me and said that the batch was recalled due to marriage, and the next batch will be in 3 weeks. About half a year ago, I already tried to buy a bread maker from them, although then I ordered a redmond, they also told me that the batch was withdrawn. Do you think you shouldn't mess with them at all? Perhaps it's not for nothing that their prices are cheaper.
Waist
I do not know about the store you are writing about. I can only say that Panasonic cannot be cheaper than it actually costs, like any other proprietary technology. You will buy this HP not for a year and not for 2. If you look for the cheapest one - there is every chance to buy a cheap / fake one.
Pavla
Quote: shade
Take the Unold 68511 BACKMEISTER EXTRA
Tell me, please, did you program any sourdough bread in this HP? If so, you can throw it off (for example, in a personal).
sazalexter
Quote: Love Yu
I ordered a Panasonic and they called me and said that the batch was recalled due to marriage
Nonsense, the shops have completely lost their conscience, Panasonic's marriage does not exceed 1.5% which batch
$ vetLana
Love Yu, about this store already many wrote on our forum. Don't mess with him.
Buy in trusted stores.
Love Yu
Quote: $ vetLana

Love Yu, about this store already many wrote on our forum. Don't mess with him.
Buy in trusted stores.
Thank you very much for your answers! I like your forum well oooooooooochen I read selectively so far. Since I bought myself Kesha in January. You have such a good and friendly atmosphere. I got a lot of useful information for myself. I haven't come across your reviews about this store yet. I won't contact him anymore, I'd rather buy it at a higher price.
NataRus
Good day! I ask the help of experts. I want to choose a bread maker as a gift for my parents, but I don't understand what to look for in the characteristics. The main problem is that they live in a private house and there is a problem with the voltage in the email. networks. It can drop to 150, and you can not even dream of 220. Are there bread makers that are not "sensitive" to such changes?
$ vetLana
NataRus, Natalya, I don't think you will find it. She will most likely underbake or the dough will not rise. Aren't you considering a stabilizer?
I bake in the country. I did not measure the voltage, but judging by the email. light bulbs, as if jumping. Ttt, the bread was baked fine.
NataRus
$ vetLana, there is a stabilizer, but even it cannot cope. And this is not the first stabilizer
What kind of stove do you have?
$ vetLana
Panasonic 2511
NataRus
$ vetLana, thanks. So far, I keep this model in my head as a purchase option. So far, only the price stops the decisive purchase.
Waist
NataRus, if you are going to buy, ask here about the selected store, any, BEFORE buying. They will tell you if he is good.There is already experience with scammers and poor service in some places.
$ vetLana
NataRus, the model can be taken cheaper (without a dispenser)
NataRus
$ vetLana, thanks for bringing this to my attention! It turns out then Panasonic 2510 (I hope my mother did not plan to bake rye bread).

Waist, thank you, our choice is not so great: "M-Video" or "Ozone". With "M-Video", it seems, there are no questions, but with "Ozone" - did not come across. If there were reviews, I will be grateful
Waist
Quote: NataRus
(I hope my mother did not plan to bake rye bread).
Does your mother love rye bread in general? If not, that's fine. Half-grain can be baked perfectly on the Main Program.
Quote: NataRus
with "Ozone" - did not come across.
And I don't know about "Ozone", maybe someone else can tell me.
Everyone seems to be happy with M-Video.

If you dare. The Panasonic 2510 is a good stove. Simplicity only colors it!
Masyusha
Quote: NataRus
here with "Ozone" - did not come across.
I bought half of my household appliances at Ozone: girl-yes: Nice reliable store.
spring
NataRus, Natalia, our choice of stores is just as great, Eldorado constantly holds discounts, I have a Panasonic 2501, has been serving faithfully for a long time, I bake all types of bread.
NataRus
spring, but Eldorado does not have Panasonic available ... or the site is not informative
$ vetLana
NataRus, Natasha, I bought in Mvideo. You can buy on Ozone. But there was a case when they put a very low price on HP Panasonic and then refused the order.
spring
NataRus, Natasha in RBT FOR 10989, in DNS TECHNOPOINT Breadmaker Panasonic SD-2510 WTS white 9790, not in Eldorado today, tomorrow there will be, catch promotions, but there are many stores in Omsk. I wish you good luck, and any model of Panasonic is good!
Alex100
Before NG, in many stores you should expect discounts, do not rush) all successful purchases
NataRus
$ vetLana, spring, Alex100, Thank you very much for your advice! : flowers: We will wait for discounts
mowgli
I often order in Ozone. Like this store
Irinabr
Quote: Love Yu
Hello everybody!!! I have long wanted to buy a bread maker. Found an online store bread house. Their prices seem to be lower. I ordered Panasonic and they called me and said that the batch was recalled due to marriage, and the next batch will be in 3 weeks. About half a year ago, I already tried to buy a bread maker from them, although then I ordered a redmond, they also told me that the batch was withdrawn. Do you think you shouldn't mess with them at all? Perhaps it's not for nothing that their prices are cheaper.
Quote: $ vetLana

Love Yu, about this store already many wrote on our forum. Don't mess with him.
Buy in trusted stores.
I confirm!
Annette
Hello everyone!

Can you please tell me who knows: what programmable bread makers are on sale now? So that you can make your own program for sourdough bread. I look by topic - no matter what they advise, there is no longer for sale, and on the websites of household appliances stores I do not see in the description whether programmable bread makers or not. Or do I look bad? ..

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