Zinfandel
an_domini,
I bake: rye 300 gr., Wheat 150 gr., I.e. 2: 1. The mode was laid for a long time and I use it without correcting it. 15 minutes. kneading (I help with a spatula, and then I don’t go to the stove), proofing for 60 minutes, baking for 1 hour 20 minutes. These are the parameters in which bread maker can you enter? There is no need to check how far the bread is. The recipe is the same, dry yeast. Tell me please! What kind of bread maker should you buy then?
The brand is no longer needed, they ordered its bread maker, they brought it today. Immediately after the courier, they did not turn it on from the frost, they plugged it in after 3 hours, but it does not work. We will take it.
mms
Please advise me, my relatives asked me to choose a bread maker for them for the amount of 500-600 UAH, but I can't choose, because I understand that the quality starts from 1000 UAH. Tell me, please, which company to pay attention to, maybe there are such inexpensive and high-quality ones?
alyona_kuchaeva
Good time of the day, dear bakers!
I bake bread for six months, albeit by hand. But recently, there is practically no opportunity to tinker with the dough enough, I come to the idea of ​​the need to buy HP. I'm going to take a good one right away, and not so that "it will go for the first time."
I am considering 4 options:
REDMOND RBM-M1902
Panasonic SD-2501WTS
Panasonic SD-2500WTS
Moulinex OW6121 Home Bread Baguette

In Moulinex on a response to Yandex. the market was interested in such a moment that there are 2 dough mixers, which, according to the customer, improves the quality of kneading the dough. In redmond, I liked the possibility of baking rye bread (although it seems to me that, in principle, the other options I consider are suitable for this purpose).

Please tell me what to look for when choosing a bread maker?
Zinfandel
A double mixer often mixes worse than a single mixer. This is not an advantage. And this is not the main thing.

Any bread maker will bake white bread. If you are going to bake rye bread, then you should not be misled by the inscription Rye bread in the list of programs of any bread machine. What are the stages in this mode? Each manufacturer has its own fantasies.

Rye bread is sticky when kneaded and requires some intervention with a silicone spatula when kneading. Rye bread can be baked in any bread maker, only you often have to interfere with the preset programs. Therefore, the decisive thing for me is the ability to set my own program. Read Temka:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...tion=com_smf&topic=9345.0

Panasonic is considered the best automated bread maker, but you cannot set your own program in it.

If you are not limited in funds, then Bork 800th (not 500th, there is no point in spending money!). Actually this is Breville BBM800XL:
🔗

The trade-off is a programmable brand. Good workhorse. This is a restyled model, where the possibilities have become even wider. If you are from Moscow, then there are no problems with the service. Just recently I was looking for a bread maker for a friend. Ordered by Brand. They brought her, but she does not turn on. At first I wanted to give up this bread machine, but once again having estimated all the options (possibilities & price), I decided to take a chance. The bread maker was replaced without any problems (brought home). Now my friend has been using it for three months, and I watch, help. Therefore, I can recommend. The bowl is so-so, but it is an affordable consumable. There are scales, small, but they work exactly.

I have a Kenwood 450, his programming possibilities are not as wide as those of Brand, but he can handle any black bread with my minimal intervention and only at the kneading stage. True, because of the euro exchange rate, it has now become too expensive.
sazalexter
alyona_kuchaeva, Two scoops are relevant only if you bake large breads over 1200g. Any HP will bake rye-wheat and wheat-rye bread. Programming is a serious business, for an amateur. Optimal choice Panasonic SD-2501WTS
alyona_kuchaeva
Zinfandel, sazalexter, thank you for your quick and informative reply!
tuskarora
Hello everyone! Girls boys, such a question. In recent years, I have only baked in the oven, HP lives in the country and serves for kneading. But the neighbors at the dacha asked me to advise them on HP, I’m not very much in the subject of models. Requirements:
1) Family of 2 people, but they consume enough bread (village traditions)
2) Not very difficult to manage (programming will not be done for sure).
3) Price does not matter (people are not poor)
4) The region is Ukraine, but there is nowhere to look for the rural SC, so the model is more reliable.

I would be very grateful for your recommendations.
sazalexter
tuskarora, Panasonic SD 2501 or 2500 are the most problem-free HP easy to manage, just let them buy the scales and go to our forum for recipes. Although, in principle, bread is obtained from the book in the kit.
tuskarora
Thank you. I wrote this down first. If we find it on sale.
Geepas
Hello. Please tell me what is the difference between Panasonic 2501 and 2510?
I wanted to take 2501, but unfortunately the store only has 2510, which is also an order of magnitude more expensive.
For some reason, I did not find any mention of this model in the forum.
sazalexter
Geepas, New model, analogue 2500. 🔗
jelly-o
Hello everyone! I ask for advice in choosing a bread machine. This is the case_ while I am on maternity leave, I bake bread in a cartoon and in the oven, they are fine with me, but soon I will go to work, and I can hardly get up at 4 am in order to knead-distance-knead-bake bread before work ... I'm thinking about a bread maker, but mostly I bake either white yeast or whole grain, rye, wheat-rye sourdough ... Does it make sense to take a bread maker? If so, which one?
can leave baking for the weekend? or get the hang of baking bread in the evenings after work?

my ceiling for baking is 1500 UAH
sweetka
the bread maker not only bakes bread, she also kneads and arranges. I have, as of 2008, not the most expensive model. there was no technical variety at that time. maximum Panas, Moulinex well, and something like mine. I practically do not bake bread in it. but I do not use it every day. precisely as a kneading and proofing device. so you need to take.
otera
Hello! I read it, read it, I see that everyone advises Panasonic, but it's a little expensive for the money. And if the simpler option is to have different bread, with different additives, and dough for dumplings and pizza, but what kind of muffins? who will tell? So that for a price of up to UAH 1000, is there such an option?
Newbie
Yes, take any with these modes. And so that the baked goods were separately and turned on immediately, and did not wait for the oven to cool down. And so the programs can be combined.
otera
Thanks, I am already reviewing
Arnica
Quote: Rina

In the profile topic of Panasonic there was a review of bakers who were not comparing Kenwood and Panasonic in the store, but in real life. The opinion is strongly in favor of Panasonic.
If still relevant, I will answer. I have a Kenwood 450 for the fifth year. During this time, two buckets were changed, since they begin to leak. Perhaps I myself am to blame - sometimes I made dumplings (and there is no such function in it). The mount broke that clings to the bucket. Kenwood is noisier and makes a lot of noise when the dispenser is triggered. There is a viewing window, I like to watch. We programmed two programs: Rye and Borodinsky. Bakes well. But French is more delicious from Panasonic. I took the recipe from Panasonic, but still it doesn't work out for some reason.
dreamberry
DELUX, help, please, with bread recipes for vico bjm 660v HP.
dreamberry
Quote: dreamberry

DELUX, help, please, with bread recipes for vico bjm 660v HP.
It seems to me that we are unlikely to get an answer, probably a very rare type of bread machine we have.
And maybe someone can tell you a recipe for an ordinary bread, weighing 750, which can be baked in many, and therefore in our bread maker, girls?
sazalexter
dreamberry, any recipe from the forum is like "first class ink"
Alycha
Ordered princess xl with two knives. On the forum they are not discussed at all for some reason. I'll get my answer. I mainly mix the dough and let it stand and bake it in the oven so I wanted more flour for about a kilogram of flour.
Lanna
All good! In a nearby Temko she asked, remained unnoticed ...
What do you advise to choose from programmable up to 8t. R. (rye, sourdough bread, dumplings, yoghurt): Brand 3801 or Polaris PBM 1501D?
Polaris pluses: the presence of a dispenser (but not critical), a large loaf and 2 small ones; cons - 2 mixers (I doubt the reliability of mixing) and a viewing window.
In Brand, the lack of a dispenser is embarrassing and some other hitch, I don't remember ... He, of course, has a bigger community)
Maybe there are some other options? I just can’t decide, don’t let it go away (while there is time to read the NG vacation, otherwise there will be jobs at work ... (
mowgli
Oh oh. I would take Panas. it is included in this price or Kenwood, it is programmable
sazalexter
Lanna, Brand 3801 he even has better service, of course Zojirushi Breadmaker BB-CEC20, but that's another fairy tale
Lanna
Thanks for the advice!
NatashaI have been using Panasik 2501 for the third year, he is moving to the village, to please my mother) What Kenwood, 450 do you mean? It costs 16 thousand, not an option ...
Alexander, of course, Zozhirushi is a completely different song - even when Luda - mariana-aga (so sorry she deleted her LiveJournal), she was reading, drooling, but he was beyond his means, unfortunately. I also tend to Brand, his community is still large. And the service is good - when the smokehouse came with a broken bowl from Ozone - thanks to Brand, I replaced it for free)))
mowgli
God, already sixteen !!! as time flies. and everything is in the old prices ... And that Brand is better than Panas than?
Lanna
Natasha, no, I'm very pleased with Panasik, that's why I want to give it to my mother, because it's tested in battles, so to speak, and won't let you down. And it will be easy to tell her, if anything, even by phone; Mom is not very friendly with technology (61 years old, lives alone in the village, when we rarely go - she has a stress with bread).
And I want a programmable one, because I used to dabble with sourdoughs, and it's a dreary thing to nurse and stand bread with it, so I want to be able to do this in HP (there you can set not only the duration of the stages, but also the temperature of each stage). Well, and again, at the yogurt maker, I'll save some money - I'm doing it either by the battery, or in a slow cooker - running around. Now other tasks are simply assigned to KP.
quince
mowgli, I have Panas and Kenwood. Only Panas! Trust the owner of both rivers, who drove them along and across for more than one or two years. At Kenwood, only design is good (my personal opinion based on my personal experience).
an_domini
Quote: quince

mowgli, I have Panas and Kenwood. Only Panas! Trust the owner of both rivers, who drove them along and across for more than one or two years. At Kenwood, only design is good (my personal opinion based on my personal experience).
I completely agree. I also have the same couple for 6 years. You can find on the forum my comparison of French in these HPs.
And the main thing is the reliability of Panas. And the eternal problem of many other HP, including Kenwood - bucket leakage. Panas has a durable coating and no leaks, the design is as follows.
Natalia Alekseevna
I bought a convection oven with a bread maker function, and it also kneads the dough itself!

VES electric, model SK-A20

Instrument programs:
1 Toast 180-250С
2 Baking 100-250С
3 Skewer 150-220С
4 Frying 150-250С
5 Grill 150-220С
6 Pizza 180-250С
7 Baguette / roll 150-220С
8 Cookies 140-200С
9 Heating 150-200С
10 C o n tration
temperature

Sori did not manage to attach the photo. The price is more than reasonable compared to Delongi, the quality is still pleasing
Candy
Hi girls! I want to buy my first bread maker. Reading the reviews I looked closely at Panasonic SD-ZB2502 and Panasonic SD-2510, the difference in price for our money is 10,000 which is better to choose according to your personal experience
mowgli
Quote: sazalexter

Lanna, Zojirushi Breadmaker BB-CEC20 but that's a different tale
where can i order it? or which one to take programmable hp no worse than Panasonic
MrConst
Friends, tell me.
I want to buy my first bread maker.Moulenex OW240E30 for 7,000 rubles a normal option to start with (this offer is valid until October 13)? Recommended Panasonic SD-ZB2512KTS for 13,600 over budget.
Thank you in advance!
$ vetLana
Quote: Candy
I want to buy my first bread maker. Reading the reviews I looked closely at Panasonic SD-ZB2502 and Panasonic SD-2510, the difference in price for our money is 10,000 which is better to choose according to your personal experience
What is the difference? What programs do you need? Look at the topic about Panasonic, ask a question there.https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...192.0


Added Sunday 09 Oct 2016 11:43 PM

Quote: MrConst
Friends, tell me. I want to buy my first bread maker. Moulenex OW240E30 for 7,000 rubles a normal option to start with (this offer is valid until October 13)? Recommended Panasonic SD-ZB2512KTS for 13,600 off budget. Thank you in advance!
When I chose HP, I also chose between Moulinex and Panasonic. Read the topics about both HPs. You will understand what you need. Ask questions, what specifically interests in one and the other model in the topics on Mulinex and Panasonic. The owners of these models will answer you.
Candy
Thanks for the feedback, I bought the Panasonic SD-ZB2502BTS in March, I'm happy as an elephant, the bread is sooooo tasty, for 7 months now we have been eating only homemade bread, and the pastry from the bread machine is just super, by the way, we did not get fat, but we got rid of heartburn
$ vetLana
Candy, I didn't even look at the date you asked the question. And you, it turns out, are already baking with might and main. Perfectly!
Quote: Candy
and the pastry from the bread machine is just super
Yes, I agree .
Candy
Tesh
Hello girls. I just got into trouble, my bread machine broke a spare part, the engine connector and the bucket. And that's it. I decided to order in the service center, and there they gave a link to the site and said order yourself, we will not undertake this price, we will not be able to take a percentage. In short, it costs 1600 rubles. Chinese is about the same. I want to ask you, maybe someone knows where you can take a Panasonic stove for analysis?
Florichka
My bucket from HP Kenwood 450 has broken. A new bucket costs 3500, but even earlier in the HP itself a small rectangular mount fell off, I'm afraid that buying a new bucket won't solve the problem. Kenwood new is very expensive, do not want to. While I'm baking in the oven. I knead with a dough mixer, but I still want HP. I look closely at Orson. It seems like nothing and inexpensive. What do you advise?


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Olyushka,
Quote: Olyushka
The mount that clings to the bucket broke
so my bucket is leaking, one small mount on the HP itself has fallen off and the pin does not hold from the bucket.
sazalexter
Tesh, Natalia, it will be easier and cheaper to order a part using the link that was given in the service.
$ vetLana
Tesh, Natalya, try asking a question in another topic. Here are topics on Panasonic https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...ption=com_smf&board=370.0.
There is also a Flea market theme. Try asking there. Look at Avito - maybe they are selling for parts.
But, I think, it is problematic to buy it cheaper than you are offered.
sv-julia
Good day everyone! We are planning to purchase xp, but we are completely confused with the choice, according to the reviews we liked Panasonic, and after shopping they began to doubt, because the consultants advised taking Moulinex, because it has a metal cup and shaft connection, and Panasonic has plastic, which is from heating it will dry out over time and burst.
What would you recommend Panasonic SD-ZB2512KTS or Moulinex Nutribread OW311E32?
maryjane
Hello! I have the same story a couple of days ago happened
My old Alaska broke down and worked for almost seven years.
My husband and I went to Eldorado for Panasonic. Purposefully, before choosing a forum, I reread the length and breadth.
The seller immediately rushed to persuade them to take Redmond or Moulinex (I didn't look at the numbers), the motive is the same - "they have a metal connection, but Panasonic has a plastic one, unreliable, but they bring them back to us in a week, they start creaking and rattling."
I did not give in to persuasion, we took the SD-2511.
At home, she immediately delivered bread in the French regime. It was simply gorgeous baked - ruddy, lush and tall (sorry, I didn't take a photo).
The stove works almost silently. Sitting next to me, no matter how much I didn’t listen, I still missed the moment when the stove turned from standing to kneading (my old one rumbled throughout the apartment).
Very happy with the purchase
Marisha Aleksevna
Quote: sv-julia
What would you recommend Panasonic SD-ZB2512KTS or Moulinex Nutribread OW311E32
Panasonic
$ vetLana
Quote: sv-julia
consultants advised
Do not believe, they sell what is profitable for them.
Trust this forum.
Helena
Quote: sv-julia
What would you advise
Panasonic. I have had a Panasonic bread maker for many years. Works perfectly, nothing creaks, does not burst.
Klimola
And I have Moulinex, and one of the most inexpensive, also for many years
Candy
Panasonic
Vesta
There was Moulinex, the whole mixing mechanism fell out of the bucket, I changed it to Panasonic with baguette molds, took it to repairs 3 times (there was a defective batch), handed over and bought a model 2500, it has been working without problems for several years.

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