Which bread maker to buy?

and if money is not enough - why not take Alaska? it has good bread ...THIS IS THE TOPIC. Pumpkin... Our bison are baked in it. Not worse than Panasonic (and even better)

I ask for help in choosing a bread machine. I don’t understand anything about them. It is necessary to keep within 500-600 hryvnias, so that it is easy to operate, and so that the bread is obtained with the least body movements. I know, I know, about the kolobok rule and all that ...
I thought about Orion 24, they said - better than Delph. Confused.

Oksana, at IRR Delph - for a large amount of test. She will certainly advise.

and if money is not enough - why not take Alaska?

there is money. I want a serious and beautiful

Lena, as I understand it, you have a clear choice of a bread machine in metal? Please note that the Panas 2502 yeast dispenser always works, and this, according to user reviews, is a loud enough click (and it seems not even one). For some, this may turn out to be a serious argument against this particular model. If design doesn't come first, then the 2501 is the best choice on the market.

It looks more beautiful in metal and will fit into the interior.
I already understood that everyone is for Panasonic. 2501 and 2502 differ only in dispenser. Kenwood has an add. programs for your recipes.
I would like to understand what else you can see. And then all the Panasonic sellers are pushing which 9t. worth it.
I like Tefal OW4002 too.
I just want to understand a decent list of candidates.

there is money. I want a serious and beautiful

Check out the Bork X800. There is a possibility of programming. The spatula folds down. But stooooooit.

Look at Bork

Thanks for the advice, but the firm itself is not clear to me. World brands are even cheaper.

there is money. I want a serious and beautiful

sorry, I took your phrase * no budget * literally take Panasonic. With us, many people start and finish them when choosing who has no budget

That week I just mastered the yogurt maker and

Lena, if you have not dealt with HP before, it is better to take a proven and problem-free stove IMHO.

[Lozja,]

Lozja,

take what you want. Everything will be gut! Everything bakes well in this price category. This is not Bork and Kenya.

I ask for help in choosing a bread machine. I don’t understand anything about them. It is necessary to keep within 500-600 hryvnias, so that it is easy to operate, and so that the bread is obtained with the least body movements. I know, I know, about the kolobok rule and all that ...
I thought about Orion 24, they said - better than Delph. Confused.

Would you like Scarlett? The price is budget and not very bad.
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=123935.0

Does the puppy even fall, curd then?

Of course everyone gets it, my husband, me and the first dog! Thanks to Nicky (puppy) we now eat homemade yoghurts. Here is my husband and we will offer to buy HP.

Of course everyone gets it, my husband, me and the first dog! Thanks to Nicky (the puppy), we are now eating homemade yoghurts. Here is my husband and we will offer to buy HP.

What a clever husband! And you also tell him about a multicooker, a pressure cooker, a smokehouse (separately or all-in-one), a pizza oven, an air grill, an ice cream maker, a dumpling machine, etc., etc., according to the list, tell me (I certainly don't know what you already own )! But what if? I would not hesitate with such a husband

Would you like Scarlett? The price is budget and not very bad.
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=123935.0

I want to take it from me. And I have no Scarlets. There are Delphi, Dex, Gorene, Kenwood, Liberton, Moulinex, Orions, Panasonic, Zelmery.Half of the brands can be excluded due to their price.

[Lozja,]

Lozja,

take what you want. Everything will be gut! Everything bakes well in this price category. This is not Bork and Kenya.

You mean that expensive HP bakes worse?

Sorry for the question, in this thread there are professional consultants who can describe the requirements for a bread maker, and they are a list of models. Or does each sandpiper praise his swamp?

[simfira]

this thread has professional consultants,

simfira , professional - no, only amateurs !! But they will be able to tell you about the case .. So, write your requirements.

[Orion]

I want to take it from me. And I have no Scarlets. There are Orions

I'm so very happy with my Orion cheap and cheerful!

Lena, if you have not dealt with HP before, it is better to take a proven and problem-free stove IMHO.

That is, this is Panasonic !? Right!?

That is, this is Panasonic !? Right!?

Without and a little problematic enough.
Panasonic is rather in the forefront.

This means that among the inexpensive, there are also problem-free and low-problem ones. But they need to be very carefully fished out among the sea of ​​commercially available technology, that is, either shoveled a lot of information, or act at random and obey your intuition.

And Panasonic is 99% technology without problems, working reliably for a long time. For example, I had a breakdown when the stove was already three years old; thanks to the help of the members of the forum, the problem was solved for very little money and quickly, the stove is plowing again (I hope it will plow for more than one year, t-t-t). During the "illness" of Panasonic, I had to use the multi-cook Yunold as a bread machine (we have its analogue Binaton on the market). Yunold is a fairly popular technique in Germany, not the cheapest. So, as a bread maker I did not like it! And technically there is a problem (when kneading, the bucket flies out of its place, and the bread is worse than in Panasonic. And one cannot say that this "worse" in my head - this is quite objective.

This means that among the inexpensive, there are also problem-free and low-problem ones. But they need to be very carefully fished out among the sea of ​​commercially available technology, that is, either shoveled a lot of information, or act at random and obey your intuition.

And Panasonic is 99% technology without problems, working reliably for a long time. For example, I had a breakdown when the stove was already three years old; thanks to the help of members of the forum, the problem was solved for very little money and quickly, the stove plows again (I hope it will plow for more than one year, t-t-t). During the "illness" of Panasonic, I had to use the multi-cook Yunold as a bread machine (we have its analogue Binaton on the market). Yunold is a fairly popular technique in Germany, not the cheapest. So, I didn't like it as a bread maker! And technically there is a problem (when kneading, the bucket flies out of its place, and the bread is worse than in Panasonic. And one cannot say that this "worse" in my head - this is quite objective.

I support.

Panasonic is rather in the forefront.

Thank you very much!!!! Today I went to the M. video (fortunately about work). Looked and felt the Kenwood 450 and Panasonic 2502. And I liked Panasonic more. Kenwood is beautiful, but obviously not for every day. And Panasonic seemed more practical.
All the same, beauty does not always win!

I was like, like according to different reviews, and still returned to Orion 24 ... I cannot explain why. Well, like Delphi, it is both cheaper and not bad, but somehow something ... even I myself cannot understand what confuses.

And here 🔗 read reviews? It seems like everyone is gut

I also read it here. Now I doubt it. Everyone is shocked by the minted dispenser, which squeaks and rattles, writes that it is very loud. Wow!
I would choose for myself - I would close my eyes and poke my finger. And a gift from a mother-in-law is a responsible business.

Ksyu, why do you need an entot dispenser at all? Can't you live without it?
Or the mother-in-law of the baluvan?

Ksyu, why do you need an entot dispenser at all? Can't you live without it?

I don't need it! And them too, I think. Only there is no such stove without a dispenser. Oto and the whole problem. Or did I misunderstand, and if you don't use it, then it won't rumble?

I made myself cons of Orions from Delphi:

Orions:
- chiseled and loud despenser who scares everyone
- the prog labels are erased over time (if I have not messed up anything)

Delphi:
- flimsy bucket
- there was something else, I don't remember ... but there was definitely something ...

I read in Delph that the inscriptions are quickly erased, the service is not so hot, and often the dough stops interfering with it, because some plastic parts fail.
Well, Orion - the smell of plastic, six months later the bucket flowed, a crazy dispenser.
Although, if you do not pay attention to the reviews - but look at the oven yourself, touch it - well, you like it outwardly or not, and how the quality of the plastic looks, and the smell - then who knows.
Ours have both Delphi and Orions - and everything seems to be normal.
In general, a difficult choice, especially if not for yourself, but for a gift.
I do not want to offend anyone, and I apologize in advance to all owners of Orion technology - well, I don’t like this company, and even Saturn (but this is my personal opinion, moreover, subjective, in fact, backed up only by other people's reviews, sorry again before the owners of this technology)

So otozh - touch. At my suppliers like - pay the money, we will bring it, touch - at least touch it all.

In general, the head will think, there is still time before tomorrow, and tomorrow it will be necessary to order something.

So otozh - touch. At my suppliers like - pay money, we will bring, touch - at least touch it all.

In general, the head will think, there is still time before tomorrow, and tomorrow it will be necessary to order something.

Well, you knead yourself - legs in hands - and touch the store - sniff, you can sniff something
Is Dex not an alternative? What is good about them?

And I look at Dex, the reviews are good, my mom is a gift. And at Saturn itself, I don't seem to complain

Yes, I also look, the reviews are different everywhere. Yes, and on our forum, and Orions, and Saturns, and Delphi, and Scarlets - and everything seems to be normal. And in online stores they write different things, the devil only knows, is it true or so, to have fun.
Therefore, I think that you need to take what you like best, as they say, for which the eye caught. And everything will be OK
And Dexico looks like a pretty guy, but about the quality - I'm not
We can if it's multi (although of course there are some disadvantages of the Wedb too), then the bread makers are good

Dex and my Saturn look the same, only then I will compare the rest

Well, Orion - the smell of plastic, six months later the bucket flowed, a crazy dispenser.

And my 27G is not at all like that and there is no smell, and everything is fine with the bucket, even though it works every day and several times often, and the programs are convenient and the inscriptions are in place ... Maybe someone is using it?
And the price was generally ridiculous, only now they have risen in price ...
I love my cow now even more (c)

[Alim]

Alim
I'm very glad that everything is so good
That is why I say whether it is worth to a large extent to trust reviews from online stores, although it is certainly worth getting to know. After all, unknown people write there, and on our forum we can say that good acquaintances are friends, albeit in absentia and at a distance

Something I do not see we have any special reviews about the Libertons. What, no one is buying?

What can you say about Brand 3801? There are built-in scales, which is remarkable. How about work? In my opinion, the model is new, but I choose my first bread maker

That's it, I took Orion 24, I hope it won't let you down. Thank you all for participating!

What can you say about Brand 3801? There are built-in scales, which is remarkable. How about work? In my opinion, the model is new, but I choose my first bread maker

Price, quality, features - everything is very good!

As a result, I ordered a Zelmer 43Z010 bread maker (stainless steel case) and a mechanical kitchen scale Smile KS 3207 for it. With delivery (cash on delivery) it costs 5,570 rubles. I decided not to overpay for the Panas brand. Now I will wait for delivery.I will write about the first bread in the corresponding topic, I will take the recipe from here.

[5 570]

As a result, I ordered a Zelmer 43Z010 bread maker (stainless steel case) and a mechanical kitchen scale Smile KS 3207 for it. With delivery (cash on delivery) it costs 5 570 R. I decided not to overpay for the Panas brand. Now I will wait for delivery. I will write about the first bread in the corresponding topic, I will take the recipe from here.

Brand 3801 - 4500 rubles with electronic scales included.
According to the possibilities for today, one of the best models.

Brand 3801 - 4500 rubles with electronic scales included.
According to the possibilities for today, one of the best models.

And for girls, the buckets are already scratched and climbed a little even .................

And for girls, the buckets are already scratched and climbed a little even .................

Everyone scratches. Or is there something that is not scratched?
The bucket and stirrer are replaced as needed and all manufacturers sell this separately.
Why did it happen?
This model has significantly more charms than the rest of the above.

And scratches do not interfere, even if the whole bucket peels off, greased with oil and bake without a tambourine, unlike many other models.
For example, with Panasonic, I want rye and I would bake it, and there is time for kneading, but an extra hour for dancing with a tambourine is very often not enough. So, in this case, rye bread cried!

Everyone scratches. Or is there something that is not scratched?

Well, not in a short time. I have ski for almost 2 years tfu-tfu-tfu
Although I do not argue, in terms of functionality, the Brand is cooler than Ski

The previous order was canceled. Now they will come for sure (God forbid): Zelmer BM1000 Bread Maker and Polaris PKS 0305 Scales. Total with delivery: 5,294 rubles. (not that expensive). The bread maker is Polish assembly, but they said it is no different from the Chinese assembly. Hopefully this new BM 1000 is as good as the old Zelmer 43Z010.

[twins]

The previous order was canceled. Now they will come for sure (God forbid): Zelmer BM1000 Bread Maker and Polaris PKS 0305 Scales. Total with delivery: 5,294 rubles. (not that expensive). The bread maker is Polish assembly, but they said it is no different from the Chinese assembly. Hopefully this new BM 1000 is as good as the old Zelmer 43Z010.

Excuse me, but apparently the Poles built an assembly plant based on the Zelmer label.
Especially if you search on Yandex Market twins this bread maker with labels from other manufacturers.
And the scales in Brand, if they are so worried about their heating, can always be removed from the pencil case and put on the shelf. For some reason, the electronics of the bread maker itself is working and working.

Please tell me) I'm going to buy a bread maker and I need advice ... I seem to have studied everything and settled on Panasonic. But as I understood, there is no function of rye bread in any model. (I am allergic to white bread, so I try to avoid it) Or is it not important that you can somehow bake rye bread as usual? And what about other models that have such a function? And what is the function of Borodino bread?

[Rye and Borodinsky]

Please tell me) I'm going to buy a bread maker and I need some advice ... I seem to have studied everything and settled on Panasonic. But as I understood, there is no function of rye bread in any model. (I am allergic to white bread, so I try to avoid it) Or is it not important that you can somehow bake rye bread as usual? And what about other models that have such a function? And what is the function of Borodino bread?

Rye and Borodinsky also easily baked in a long list of bread makers.
Here is the replenished list -
Rye custard bread is real (almost forgotten taste). Baking methods and additives.
You cannot argue against Panasonic, an excellent stove, although in terms of functionality, especially when baking sourdough bread, you have to look for a tambourine.

When we bought our moulinex Baguette a couple of years ago, we read about many bread makers, and looked and touched and asked the price. Which one we chose is only according to our feelings, but at some point the seller said the following - "To be honest, it makes no difference at all which bread maker to take - THEY BAKE ALL - AND CHEAP AND EXPENSIVE". We only chose for ourselves - so that the baguettes were baked (honestly, they never did it, it turned out that it was just that it was), what shape the bread would be and it would be good with a recipe book. All.

Please tell me) I'm going to buy a bread maker and I need some advice ... I seem to have studied everything and settled on Panasonic.But as I understood, there is no function of rye bread in any model. (I am allergic to white bread, so I try to avoid it) Or is it not important that you can somehow bake rye bread as usual? And what about other models that have such a function? And what is the function of Borodino bread?

Almost every bread maker has the function of baking rye bread - your little business is to have rye flour and choose the required program. In the Yandex market, you can set a search with a set of functions you need and their entire variety to compare and choose the one you like, because no one will specifically tell you "what other rye bread is baked" - their sea. As for the usual mode, to a greater extent they can be calculated for white bread, with the only difference that white bread, because wheat flour - with a finer grinding, it is lighter for baking, and for rye a little different conditions are required - in principle, I do not saw a bread maker with only one normal mode function. The instructions for the bread maker you purchased will necessarily contain recipes (or separately) for rye bread - this function will not require you to perform special dances with a tambourine.