Which bread maker to buy?

As I understand it, the smaller the bucket, the smaller the size of the stove .. this is interconnected

[Leska]

Leska

they need exactly mini-small-sized so that there is the oven itself, and more bread and dough

, but this cannot be, unless it is a "magic pot". The smaller the oven itself, the lower the yield of products from it, including dough and bread.

[gypsies]

I’m this little one on the right gypsies - binaton, felt it ... but she's so toy straight. Deck dish. there is a loaf on the palm of your hand. although it bakes well.
Girls, now they have begun to produce more compact stoves - this is my first Delfa - well, a coffin, and there are 750-900 bread. But I looked at the last delfa in a foxtrot - with the same bread yield, it takes up much less space on the table.

[Leska]

Let's ask first to indicate what maximum dimensions the HP should have (all the same, small - this is not informative, each has its own concept of small size).
And already based on this we will think which is better
Leska - can you say in centimeters how much should be in width-height-depth?
Do you want to squeeze it somewhere? Please note that you need to leave space on all sides, it heats up, and you can not open the lid if you put it close to the wall.
Maybe there are dimensions of the future installation site?

[DenRassk]

Let's ask first to indicate what maximum dimensions the HP should have (all the same, small-sized - this is not informative, each has its own concept of small-size).
And already based on this we will think which is better
can you say in centimeters how much should be in width-height-depth?
Do you want to squeeze it somewhere? Please note that you need to leave space on all sides, it heats up, and you can not open the lid if you put it close to the wall.
Maybe there are dimensions of the future installation site?

DenRassk, so the fact of the matter is that I personally do not know either the dimensions of the kitchen, or these grannies (friends of relatives), but only what needs to be bought for them in Moscow. Like in that fairy tale "Buy that - I don't know what". If they still wrote complete information on the websites of online stores, almost 99% of all had a carbon copy from YandexMarket - word for word and with the same typos, so I had to call for universal help.

Then this is some kind of
He may ask the customer what was meant and explain that a small one is not only a small bun, but also very little dough ... although it may turn out that so much dough is needed to bake a dozen pies for the arrival of guests, and not for a week

Looked, looked ... the two smallest are Kenwood BM150 and Ariete 131 (already mentioned above).
Ariete 131 - roll 900gr, 255x260x270 mm - 12 programs, there is dough
Kenwood BM150 - 700g roll, 240x280x300 mm - it seems the smallest, only 3 programs and no dough, but simple ...

Slightly more:
Clatronic BBA 3364 - roll 900 gr, 270x290x350 mm - 12 programs, there is dough

Do you have any Scarlets? Very good and small. 500 gr. and 750 gr.

[Right here]

Right here the person is very happy with the little Supra 150.

Girls help! I desperately want a bread maker, I have been sitting in the internet for 2 days. Today I drove to M-video, but the seller turned out to be completely out of topic. What kind of kenwood 450 bread maker to buy (it is beautiful) or Panas 2501 (it is not beautiful, but judging by the reviews it is reliable). I have a brain explosion.

or Panas 2501 (it is not beautiful, but judging by the reviews, it is reliable).

And why is she ugly ?! Such a normal oven. Not an art object, of course, but it's worth it, it doesn't catch the eye

My kitchen is all black metal. It will just be like a blank spot. and in height you can't even put it anywhere in the closet only if you constantly wear (((.

And I also wanted to ask the yeast only saf-moment or can I buy something else?

And I also wanted to ask the yeast only saf-moment, or can I buy something else?

You can also use pressed ones.

My kitchen is all black metal. It will just be like a blank spot. and in height you can't even put it anywhere in the closet only if you constantly wear (((.

I don't see a problem - buy a Panasonic 2502 just in your gamut))))

My kitchen is all black metal. It will just be like a blank spot. and in height you can't even put it anywhere in the closet only if you constantly wear (((.

By design, Bork is just right for you))

I fired up a family to feed homemade bread. But how much I will like this process and whether I will succeed, I do not know. And then 9000 rubles will be sooo sorry.

Bork was just advised by the seller from the m-video, but I just read the reviews and just realized that I don't want it.

[OlgaVlad]

I fired up a family to feed homemade bread. But how much I will like this process and whether I will succeed, I do not know. And then 9000 rubles will be sooo sorry.

From what kind of CP you buy, what kind of bread will come out of it, tasty, baked or tasteless, hence the desire to bake or not bake.
Indeed, in that HP Panas 2502 that I recommended to youOlgaVlad there are programs not only for bread, but also for dough, as well as jam. But of course it's up to you to decide. As for Borg, they write in the advertisement that this is a German company, nothing of the kind, these are our guys and, if I'm not mistaken, they registered this trademark in Kaliningrad, but where they are collected remains a mystery. If you take it, then you need to take a proven brand. But this is my IMHO.

dough and jam programs are available in almost any x \ n

[OlgaVlad]

From what kind of CP you buy, what kind of bread will come out of it, tasty, baked or tasteless, hence the desire to bake or not bake.
Indeed, in that HP Panas 2502 that I recommended to youOlgaVlad there are programs not only for bread, but also for dough, as well as jam. But of course it's up to you to decide. As for Borg, they write in the advertisement that this is a German company, nothing of the kind, these are our guys and, if I'm not mistaken, they registered this trademark in Kaliningrad, but where they are collected remains a mystery. If you take it, then you need to take a proven brand. But this is my IMHO.

Gold words!!!

And I told you about Bork only and exclusively because of the design !!!

I fired up a family to feed homemade bread. But how much I will like this process and whether I will succeed, I do not know. And then 9000 rubles will be sooo sorry.

Then buy something simpler, for example, like mine - Supra BMS 355, and it costs reasonable money and bakes delicious bread
And if you want to read about it, and see what kind of bread at the exit - welcome to the topic https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=120774.0
In order not to waste time in vain - go to the store, see what is suitable for the price and look for a topic about it on the forum.
Or write a list here - they will quickly describe to you which one has recommended itself

Yes, I completely forgot - write in your profile where you live ... it will be easier for everyone to navigate
In M-Video there is Moulinex OW310E30 - the stainless steel itself, and the roof is black or Midea AHS20AC-S it also has a black rim along the bottom ...

I can't log into my profile. to write. that I'm from Moscow. )))

[tata0303]

tata0303 Ask your dealer which stove is the easiest to find parts for. So I know that spare parts go to Kenwood for six months and longer!

And at 450 Kenwood they say the heating element explodes (they say this, but I did not check)

For example, there is a Korean analogue of Panasiniku - LG! I use this myself now (model HB-1001)

[hlebopek]

hlebopek Active links to external resources on the forum are prohibited!

Panas 2501 bought for 5300 rubles. this is a compromise))) Today I will try this miracle)))

Peace be with you bakers!
if someone is going to Budapest in the near future, then from there you can bring such a unit --hausmeister
there I saw him in many electronics stores, although I saw such stoves in Bratislava
but they are almost half more expensive there

[shade]

you can bring such a unit --hausmeister

shade, and what is special about this unit?

Peace be with you bakers!

IRR souvenir ... instead of a magnet

exactly - as if the magnets are expensive there 3.5-4 euros and the stove is 20,000 forints somewhere around 3000 rubles

dopleta - what is special about this unit?
I just saw that people paid attention to him \ in my eyes two took from the counter and carried to the checkout \

of course I could not read the description of the programs in Hungarian, but there were 13 of them

souvenir ... instead of a magnet

Well, maybe. Otherwise, I didn’t understand - who will take her from there when we have a lot of models with the same set of programs and for the same price? Moreover, the instruction is in Magyar ...

Hello everyone! So the acquisition of Panasonic has broken off to us - not in the Baltic States. and we can't get to Russia. What to do? The stores are
MOULINEX OW5023, OW6000, OW1101, OW3101
KENWOOD BM900, BM366
PHILIPS HD9020 / 40, HD 9040/90
ELECTROLUX EBM8000
SEVERIN BM3990
BOMANN / CLATRONIC BOMANN BBA 5002 CB

Which of this can you advise ???

but ordering from Europe will not work?

but what about the guarantee later? forward or what? A friend even in Germany was looking for a Panasonic 257, but she found only a left-wing company that throws on the loot. So we have already accepted that we will have another bread maker.
It's funny - they don't send them to Lithuania from Poland and the Czech Republic. Only in the country they have delivery. And again - there is no model for this.

As I understand it, the 256/257 model is almost gone nowhere.

From what you have listed ... (note, this is my reasoning and my opinion)
Moulinex - definitely NOT
electrolux - the same design as the kenwood 450, in addition, two buckets are included (?)
clathronic-bomann is a good middle-class firm
severin - according to another technique, I can say that it is a good company, but it seems to me that this stove is already outdated in model.

if we exclude moulinex, then

all have max. baked goods - 1 kg, except for Kenwood 900 (1.5 kg) and Philips 9040 (1.25 kg).
the kenwood 900 has two kneading blades, the electrolux has two shapes.
Philips 9040 has a mold for baguettes.
As I understand it, the dispenser only has ken 900.

In general, the questions are:
is your family big? (baking size)
is there a need for a dispenser (do they like bread with all sorts of additives, but this is not critical, additives can always be manually added)
is there a need for gluten-free bread (hope not)
is it worth the price

In general, no matter which stove you choose, it will serve you, you will be satisfied with it.

If it is difficult to choose like this (virtually), then go shopping, touch as many stoves as possible with your hands and eyes. Whichever stove "sticks" to your hands, that one will be yours.

[3 people, max weight of bread does not matter.]

In general, the questions are:
is your family big? (baking size) - 3 people, max weight of bread does not matter.
is there a need for a dispenser (do they like bread with all sorts of additives, but this is not critical, additives can always be manually filled in) - dispenser definitely YES
is there a need for gluten-free bread (hope not) - no
is it worth the question of price - not so much that would worry

in fact, I like that visually like Kenwood 900. But I would rather have the forms, you can bake baguettes in the oven, make the dough in HP, a dispenser is required. what else ... I don’t know =)

What can you tell about PHILIPS HD 9040/90?

[Oricat]

Oricat Have you tried to order from the UK? It seems from there they send
And you will not need a guarantee (for sure)

[Oricat]

Oricat Have you tried to order from the UK? It seems from there they send
And you will not need a guarantee (for sure)

from the UK, can you tell me about the sites?

Tell me, what model is considered new for Panasonic now? so that with the dispenser.

Tell me, what model is considered new for Panasonic now? so that with the dispenser.

SD 2501/2502 https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=126137.0

found on ebay 2501 for £ 175 - this is already with delivery to Lithuania. The husband thought about it and is studying the bread maker now.

only Panasonic is better than Panasonic

Hello everyone! So the acquisition of Panasonic has broken off to us - not in the Baltic States. and we can't get to Russia. What to do? The stores are
MOULINEX OW5023, OW6000, OW1101, OW3101
KENWOOD BM900, BM366
PHILIPS HD9020 / 40, HD 9040/90
ELECTROLUX EBM8000
SEVERIN BM3990
BOMANN / CLATRONIC BOMANN BBA 5002 CB

Which of this can you advise ???

In Kaliningrad, look for

[Oricat]

Oricat, you need to write your Wishlist in advance, only on the 1st of the day, friends left for Palanga - and through your city, it was quite possible to transfer. What if someone else will go?

only Panasonic is better than Panasonic

That's for sure
I would add more ... 2502 - it is too good - everything is so nerdy - Handsome !!!!!!!!!!

There are a lot of bread makers, I'm already going crazy (: wow: I want them all!) And I just can't make a choice. Help, otherwise one cannot cope with emotions
I'm ready to pay up to $ 150 for a bread maker (about 4.5 thousand rubles or 1.2 thousand hryvnias)
I would like to bake at night (so that the stove does not wake up with noise), basically - ordinary white bread (well, maybe on holidays - with the addition of seeds, raisins, chocolate chips (although I'm not sure)), I really want to have a dough kneading function (for pies for example - came running from work - took the dough and fry / bake, but not poke around in it), because 80% of the time at work or outside the home, there is physically no time to play with the baking.
We have a small family of 2 people, bread consumption = 1/2 store loaf per day.
What models would you recommend?

What models would you recommend?

Binatone BM-2169
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...ion=com_smf&topic=17210.0

There are a lot of bread makers, I'm already going crazy (: wow: I want them all!) And I just can't make a choice. Help, otherwise one cannot cope with emotions
I'm ready to pay up to $ 150 for a bread maker (about 4.5 thousand rubles or 1.2 thousand hryvnias)
I would like to bake at night (so that the stove does not wake up with noise), basically - ordinary white bread (well, maybe on holidays - with the addition of seeds, raisins, chocolate chips (although I'm not sure)), I really want to have a dough kneading function (for pies for example - came running from work - took the dough and fry / bake, but not poke around in it), because 80% of the time at work or outside the home, there is physically no time to play with the baking.
We have a small family of 2 people, bread consumption = 1/2 store loaf per day.
What models would you recommend?

Binaton, I would not advise, if you have a small family, why do you need a bread maker, where is a 1 kg loaf or two buckets of 450 g each.
I think it is not functional, but this is my IMHO. I would recommend the Panasonic 2500, yes, yes. Amazing stove., Nothing superfluous, there are enough programs, and kneading the dough for a family of 2 is enough, flour 600 gr + 300 water is almost a kilogram of dough. There is also cooking jam, baking cupcakes .. And if the black one is not going to bake, then Panasonic 2500 is what you need, nothing more. But it's up to you.
Read here, take a look. https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=126137.0

and at Maxidom Panasonic with discounts !!!!!!!

and at Maxidom Panasonic with discounts !!!!!!!

And how much comes out?

And how much comes out?

My friend bought 2500 for 5300

We have a small family of 2 people, bread consumption = 1/2 store loaf per day.
What models would you recommend?

I agree, Binaton 2169 is a good option: the sizes of the bread are different, the price is right, and the dough does it.