Mueslik
Rita, I like my oven, the bread is good, in Panasonic there is more time, in principle, it should be better for bread, it is biased to compare according to reviews, I did not have it. But if I took a second stove, most likely it would be a programmable option so that I could change the time of kneading, proofing.
And still choose yourself what you need more, and not what they praise or scold. For the most part, ALL stoves bake delicious bread, everyone loves their stove and praises it. I just wanted a bread maker, it was a random choice, from what was (and there was practically nothing), I do not regret that I have a MULE-WE HAVE FUCKED WITH IT!
Rita
Mueslik, thank you . I also want programmable more. But if it doesn't work out, I'll take the Tefalev analogue of yours.

Natalja Ar
write when you receive the stove and try it out about your impressions. Almost a week has passed since the day of the order. There is still a little left.
Natalja Ar
Rita, Of course I will! I myself think when I come! Husband Said why in installments it would have been possible, If you really need it! Oh, I think, it’s like why, And now he’s asking, She’s probably big, we need to help you bring her home. We live in the countryside, so get in the city
Oops I already store bread and especially a bun I can’t see. Pose yesterday my husband brought home a roll, I tell you where you bought it, the roll is already overdue for the second day, and the price is as if it were fresh. Soon you can hammer in nails, I went and fed her to the ducks, it's impossible to eat! Now I'm sitting dreaming, I'd rather come !!! I will make a shopping list! Baking ingredients)))
TatSU
Quote: Natalja Ar

Now I'm sitting dreaming, I'd rather come !!! I will make a shopping list! Baking ingredients)))

Everything has already been drawn up A lot of people thought in this direction
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=3499.0
TatSU
Quote: Rita

I also want programmable more. But if it doesn't work out, I'll take the Tefalev analogue of yours.

Rita, such a programmable oven is more likely for those who know exactly what processes give what and how, what changes from this.

Programmable is definitely not my option - my case: shoved - turned on - received

The people even manage to bake rye bread without any rye programs without particularly programming.
Rita
Natalja Ar
what kind of flour do you think to buy?
After all, we have a completely different choice than in Russia.
I saw rye flour in Prism. Do you have a Prism?
There are many varieties of white, but it is not clear which one to choose.

And I also want a self-sifting sieve, like Elena Bo's, and someone else's on the forum.
Natalja Ar
Oh Silver. And white seems to me too! When you want normal bread, you don't have to choose the color! I would have baked! I already think so !!!!!
TatSU thanks for the link. I think it is necessary to write everything directly and then to the store.
Rita, We have no Prism, There is Maxim, there is no flour in the short, There is Selver and Rimi, and you need to look there !!!! I looked at Maxim yesterday, Flour is only white, there is no rye and no other. I realized that there is no point in looking at everything there, although it is cheaper, but of dubious quality!
TatSU
Quote: Rita

TatSU
to be completely honest, the white stove does not fit into the interior of my kitchen. I want a silver one.

Well, if the silver (tefal / moulinex 3000) function suits you, then why not

And about flour, what better topic is there? Basics of baking, you need to look at the notes on the packaging

I personally took the sieve in Auchan the cheapest plastic one, we also have metal sieve and I saw it in Ashan and they say there is also in Ikea.
We also had one home appliance store as related products.
In general, some supermarket of dishes (if you have one) needs to be puzzled with a question.

About which sits are better - also discussed here on the forum.
Mueslik
Quote: Natalja Ar

Rita, Of course I will! I myself think when I come! Husband Said why in installments it would have been possible, If you really need it! Oh, I think, it’s like why, And now he’s asking, She’s probably big, we need to help you bring her home. We live in the countryside, so get in the city
Natalja Ar , the stove is not big, but the box is voluminous - I got a small TV into it! Now I tried on the size of the box - 37x46x37, the help of my husband is simply necessary !!! : wow: And check the package bundle right away, so that later you don't have to go again and make claims
Natalja Ar
On the spot You will check the complete set of figs, I get it by mail, I made the order in the catalog, So I will look at home for 14 days to present claims And what should be the set there ??? What can be missing ???

Mueslik
Should be:
HP itself
two stirrers
measuring plastic cup
measuring plastic spoon (on one side a tablespoon, on the other a tea spoon)
instruction
book of recipes
warranty card
that's all!
Rita
Natalja Ar
and we in Maxim just have a huge selection of flour, and there is rye, and rice, and maize, and some other ......... But there is a lot of Lithuanian flour - not as good as it is.
But in Rimi, the choice is not very good :(. In my opinion our Kalev flour is not bad. Finnish Sunnuntai is also good, but it is for buns, is it suitable for bread.
Selver is full of all sorts of bran - wheat, rye, and oat.
Rita
TatSu
I want this vibrating sieve
🔗like Elena Bo
And in silver Tefal, the shape of the bread does not suit me
Here I am so picky.
Lika
Quote: Rita

TatSu
And in silver Tefal, the shape of the bread does not suit me
Here I am so picky.
I wonder what?
Natalja Ar
This day there was B also in Grossi, only white flour ((. And our Maxims are such that there is only garbage, that Tallinn did not finish eating, and they are being taken to us ((((.
But there is Hyper Maxim, built in Narva, that's where they say there is everything! But nothing we have two selvers if that! But They said rye flour is difficult to buy (((.
TatSU
Quote: Rita

TatSu
I want this vibrating sieve
🔗like Elena Bo

here Uncle Sam wrote about some kind of Decok sieve (https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=137.msg10012;topicseen.html#msg10012 - message 99)

I just didn’t understand, this is the same as Elena Bo's or something else - above the link there is Elena Bo's answer - the answer is 92, she seemed to be writing about Decok

In general, whoever is comfortable
Rita
Natalja Ar
Do you have Novalux? There are now wonderful silicone paddles. And in general, there are a lot of all kinds of silicone goods at cheap prices. Grease brushes, muffin tins, biscuit tins, rugs, muffin tins. And all this is very beautiful and bright colors - pink, blue, light green. By the day of mother's day, everything was still cheaper.
Rita
Lika
I prefer the elongated shape of the bread, which is obtained in bread makers with two kneaders.
Rita
TatSU
exactly it. Thanks I'll know
Only we have not yet met this.
Natalja Ar
Rita, yes, we have a Novalux, but somehow I haven't been to Yatam for a long time ... We must descend and have a look. And then I looked at the list of things necessary for baking in moulinex, I need a silicone spatula!
Oh, I received a catalog from Antilla, But there is still no paper for receiving the oven
Rita
Natalja Ar
don't cry! Only a week has passed. Just a little bit left.
But the scapula costs only 22.5 kroons! The main thing is that it has a comfortable long handle! And the colors ....: :) mmmmmmmmm
Natalja Ar
you intrigued me with this spatula !!!! Tomorrow my husband has a day off and I'll collect him to go to the store!
Hmm, who I don’t talk to all complain about the store bread, that it has become impossible to eat. And I Immediately, so .. And I will soon eat mine, people perk up. everyone already familiar is waiting for my oven and dreaming of taking a sample! A friend has already said she will look and also order, So I'm campaigning in full! what has nothing to do with itself
Natalja Ar
My stove came !! Hooray !!!!! Oh, only my husband is at work, there is no way to bring a package of 7,600 kg there. but it seems like this day with a neighbor going to the city will buy onions for planting.If we go, I'll take it already !!! I already called my husband that I’ve come, it says that there would be bread before the arrival !!! Interesting drag her as you like, also buy everything for baking. hmm ...
But damn .. I'm glad !!!!!!!
Mashenka
Quote: Natalja Ar

But damn .. I'm glad !!!!!!!
My sincere congratulations! now a new life begins for your family. I bake almost every day and try something new all the time. There was no bread this morning, we returned from the dacha yesterday, they ate all the bread, which I cooked in the morning. Today I go straight to the bread maker, and my other half is already right there - bored without bread.
Natalja Ar
Hooray came home with the stove. Along the way, they got hold of any flour for baking (y) Only dry kvass was not found ... but nothing .. they will bring
TatSU
Congratulations

And we have dry kvass, for example, in the summer they bring it to stores, maybe it’s not the season yet?
Natalja Ar
oh, barely scratched out of the box ... Phew. So we have no instructions not in Russian not in Estonian Then we have a glass and a measuring spoon and some kind of hook. Then I thought of such things that they should be attached inside to interfere with the dough. interesting and then they are in bread or something remains ... oh scary. This oven is something unknown, I'm already afraid that I will do something with it. and it doesn’t seem to be taking out a bucket, I tugged at it.
how to bake at least the simplest bread ... I didn't think that at the sight of the unit, such a mondrage would cover me ... I clearly cannot do without help
oh oh, I look at the recipes in the book, but I didn't buy the butter myself, only the olive one .. you have to look for recipes for simple bread here
Elena Bo
The bucket is removed by turning it counterclockwise, inserted by turning it clockwise. The hook is for removing the stirrers from the bread if they remain there.
Any oil can be used. No creamy, pour vegetable.
Natalja Ar
It seems to me that if I don’t find instructions in Russian, I won’t figure it out without a bottle))).
TatSU
Quote: Natalja Ar

oh, barely scratched out of the box ... Phew. So we don't have instructions not in Russian not in Estonian

There are instructions on the site here. The leftmost column is the Manufacturers section - click on the required one (Moulinex, for example) and then from the drop-down list the required model
Elena Bo
See the instructions for Mulinex on the website (left column - manufacturers).
Rita
Natalja Ar

Congratulations on your purchase!
I saw you received the stove 12 days after ordering. Even two days earlier than expected !!!
Urrrrrrraaaaaaaa !!!!!
And today I saw Mulinex 2000 in Kaubamaia. It costs the same as your Tefal.

Have you bought a shovel?
When you bake, be sure to write here. Okay?
Natalja Ar
I did not find instructions for 5002, but there is k5004 I think they are lonely only we do not have these baguettes. Now I ran off to feed the ducklings and that's it. I'm starting to figure it out !!!! how bad it is when you are a complete idiot in baking, and in technology)))
Natalja Ar
I do not understand one thing these kneading paws, They then remain in the dough? Or do they need to be pulled out somehow? they cannot bake into bread ... I understand that this is a stupid question, but this is my first time ...
Elena Bo
They may or may not stay. You have a hook attached. If they remain in the bread, then take them out.
Natalja Ar
Elena, And how should it be ... Are they floating up to the surface and before baking they need to be pulled out ??? I don’t understand directly ... or she bakes with these mixers and then there will be holes in the bread ...
Lika
The shoulder blades are baked into the bread below. When taken out of the bucket, they may remain on the pins, in the bucket or in the bread. If in bread, then get them with the same hook. In the finished bread, the holes from them are not particularly noticeable. It is better to take it out when the bread has cooled down a little and the crust is not so hard.
Natalja Ar
Lika, thank you))) I have studied the instructions. True to the 5004 model, And I realized that the shoulder blades are baked in bread! and I read a lot more there))) Here my husband will bring milk and probably I will try quick bread, or even I will not have time to bake anything before nightfall. Now I'll check the rabarber, I grew up, then I dreamed of buying apples and making a waitress))) Oh. I got carried away))). My husband has already given a scolding as much as you need, golden bread will come out, oh I say.you need to have everything you need, I have bought a whole package, but we will not eat it all at once, You can bake for a long time !!! I even grabbed oat and wheat bran out of greed. Now the husband is chasing dry kvass)))
I feel if my cheb does not come out he will eat me for a place of bread.
Elena Bo
Natalja Ar
Read Baking Basics. Everything is written there.
Natalja Ar
Helen, I'm sweating until I finished off the instructions))): - \ Now I'm running to feed the animals in the barn, then I'll come and start baking, probably already, and I'll sit down to read again! This is what a science of baking !!!
Mashenka
Quote: Natalja Ar

I was brave until I got the stove, but now I just got scared I confess ..
we are with you! You just don't start with quick bread. Better to bake the full program. And few people succeed in fast, here many will agree.
My fast never came out at all. And everything else - in full program - ok! Well him, this one is fast.
How much I baked, how many delicious things I have eaten, but today I also made strawberry jam. Delight is complete.
Mashenka
Quote: Natalja Ar

I did not find instructions for 5002, but there is k5004 I think they are lonely only we do not have these baguettes.
I have instructions for your bread maker in Russian, for model 5002, if you want, I can send it by email. mail, write in a personal address.
Natalja Ar
Masha wrote you a personal address. After all, the oven did not become a fast bread, I chose a recipe for the oven called white bread in a book. Very simple to bake on the 2nd program. I do it on 1 kg weight !!! Already kneads in all even rose))) oh will be ready by 12 at night))) my husband will have a gift in the morning
Rita
Natalja Ar
How did the bread turn out? Eating already?
Is your husband happy?

But how many more possibilities - you can simply knead the dough into pies, dumplings! Even cook jam.
Natalja Ar
Oh, she slept like a dead woman until 10 in the morning, Bread was prepared half of the 2nd night. I heroically got up to pull him out! Of course I barely knocked him out of the bucket, But I think it's too early, I shook him out, he then cooled down a little and came out easier. The kneaders remained in the bread, I pulled them out with a hook. She covered it with a towel. In the morning, my husband took a sample. Normal, Said a little bland, So the most zaparostetsky! Only flour, water and yeast))) But still wonderful, such a crust !!! Not burnt, baked. all right! We got bread per kilogram For a penny !!!
I am very pleased!!! I jumped up the same half of the seventh, too, to remove the sample)) And then flopped down to sleep! Better than simple bread, But what a delicious !!!! UH !!!! There is a photo, at night I also photographed it, then I will put it. So the oven is good! And indeed there is so much to do there! I don't know what to grab onto this day)))
Mashenka
Quote: Natalja Ar

And indeed there is so much to do there! I don't know what to grab onto this day)))
make jam you will spread it on bread. And when you eat this, bake your husband with sausage, gobble up for a sweet soul, it will not be fresh
Natalja Ar
Masha thanks for the instruction! Very wonderful!
In short, the kuks is baked. I reported on the topic of cupcakes for Moulinex. She also added her own, replaced the lemon, And it turned out to be edible! My husband really appreciated it! Tomorrow from Morning I will cook jam!
The husband came this day He cut off half of the bread and took his parents, he comes and says, Mom liked it, let's call tomorrow and order her oven !!!! Morle bread is painfully good. I say. I found what to carry my first piece, Simple unleavened bread ... Well, I just tried a piece of cake, otherwise it’s too costly to take it away
Tanyusha
Natalja Ar is so good that even simple unleavened bread is so highly appreciated.
Natalja Ar
Of course I am glad that my first bread was even appreciated !!! Nice, But still thanks to the stove! Cool stuff !!!!
Rita
Natalja Ar
what yeast and flour did you buy?

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