Natalja Ar
Yesterday I baked bread according to a different recipe, There milk and butter and raisins. In short, stunned.
Rita I'm buying premium flour. The name Kalev white packaging inscription in a red rectangle 2 kg bag and written Tüüp550
And the yeast Nordic Yeast
When will you get the oven? The thing is certainly cool !!! I didn’t expect that bread is so delicious ... I don’t want to smell the store bread now. we need to bake bread according to needs every 2 days.
Rita
Natalja Ar
now I will know which yeast to buy.
Otherwise, we do not sell those that are written about on this site.

I don't know about the oven now.
We don't eat much bread, and now I think - why do I need such a big stove? It is better to take a small one so that the bread is always fresh.
Natalja Ar
I also thought I'd take little Tefal. But then I looked, then it came out even cheaper. And more, no less!
I'm covered in pepechka! Already at six I loaded a sweet roll with raisins and slices of pineapple and papaya for my mother! she made a loaf of 750 grams smaller. The husband goes to work in the morning and takes her for a test, Let's find out how he will appreciate it! And in the evening the husband came from his hunting business, And he says, and I, And I have bread. They say I have to work tomorrow, there is a piece of sweet left, Okay, now I put him bread for sandwiches, let's see what happens! : :) just for sandwiches.
Rita stove is a thing. highly recommend! This day I again bought another flour and milk and butter for the weekend to bake!
And Sela in the evening to watch what would order the oven for the mother-in-law. So they no longer exist in Antilles. All. In short, they ended, when I ordered them they said that the last few pieces ... apparently I just had time.
like that, I would have thought about it would have stayed longer without a stove
Rita
Natalja Ar
I like your enthusiasm so much
Listen, have you already exhibited photos of your creations? I'd like to see it.
I think if these stoves are dismantled like that, then in Antilles they will definitely appear again.
Yesterday I called the Omega Center - they also sell equipment - they said that Moulinex and Tefal can be ordered through them any model.
Maybe I will be able to persuade my husband to bring me a stove from Russia when he goes there .... True, it is heavy.
When will you give birth?
Natalja Ar
I have a photo of a cupcake and first bread, I didn’t photograph the rest. But it's too lazy to throw it into the computer. Oh, enthusiasm ..... It's just that I have never really baked, so there is no desire to mess around with the shit all day. And here is such a miracle! So I am happy !!!
And it seems to me that our stoves are cheaper. At least mine is cheaper than mulinex in Russia. And What do you not want to order from us, especially since there is an opportunity for any model ???
And we are waiting for the addition by August 2 ....: :) and the garden has not yet been planted .. wow, how can I do everything ...
Rita
Natalja Ar
how are you going to plant a garden with such a belly? After all, it's already hard to bend over - the tummy gets in the way.
So you expect a lion cub. By the way, I am also a Leo.

I went to the store today, looked at the 3000th floss. If I don’t find De Longhi, I’ll buy her. I think they should appear. Today I was in Stockmann - bread machines appeared. True, Kenwood and Severin. And Mulieshki appeared in Kaubamaia. And before it was not. Consequently, there is demand, which means that the supply will also grow.
But take the time to put up the photos, please!
Natalja Ar
Maybe I'll put it in the evening .. Oh, again I need to bake the bread baked at 750 grams yesterday for sandwiches bread. So a piece remained ... We must take care of it again.
That I’m still quite moving)))) planted radish, salad, carrots today. Tomorrow 4 beds need to be planted, And then I ran with the ducklings for half a day. and probably the lion will be unas dad lion.It will be hard for me to fish with them. I’ll bake them bread and order!
Means uvas stoves appear, It's good, there are plenty to choose from! And I'm head over heels happy with my own, I don't even clean it, and it stands on the table !!!
It seems to me that our people are so lazy, they think, and then what to do with that stove, they will roll around .... I have a friend, her mother-in-law gave a bakery, So she does not touch her, she says she needs figs .. Strange people .. I don't understand such. If they made me such a gift, I would be head over heels happy!
But now I know what to give my friend to her birthday on July 6th. She also became interested. I think we'll fold and the gift will be sensible !!!
Rita
Kayman, would you like to continue?
I can only continue for myself)). I bought a bread maker after all. Very cheap, it only cost 39 euros. Outwardly similar to the coveted De Longy, but not programmable. But smaller in size))). In general, I'm happy. Bakes well too. I can no longer live without homemade bread. We no longer buy the store. True, she has not yet mastered the baking of rye bread.

It's a pity Natalya doesn't show up. I would like to know who was born to her, and see a photo of this little man))).
Rey77
So now many manufacturers are doing - the same products with various minor changes are sold under different brands - globalization

I agree. This is the result of globalization. There are even abbreviations that identify the origin of the goods (OEM and AEM). Without going into details, we can say that one corporation sells the product as its own development, while the other (buying out a production license) actually sells a "clone", but under its own trademark. So these "twins" are obtained ....
Lyutik
Hello girls. I'm new here, I'm not very familiar with it. So please do not throw your slippers. Today I became the happy owner of the Tefal bread machine, which is a copy of Moulinex 3000, instructions in English. My level is sufficient to read and understand, but I bought for my mother, and she is an elderly person, she needs everything to be detailed. Of course, I can show visually where to press, but it's better if the paper is always at hand. Please, if someone has instructions in Russian, or tell me where to download (free). The search gives only paid services in Russia, and I'm not there. Thank you in advance for your help.
Kayman
I was looking but alas - there is for a fee. No (((
Lyutik
Very sorry.
I just meant, maybe someone has a scanned version?
natalka
Search the forum. Someone once uploaded it here. If I find it, I will insert the link.
Lyutik
Thank you, but I seem to have looked through everything and did not find it.
natalka
It was. It was exactly because I saved myself and printed the recipes from there, but during the last computer failure, all this was gone. I can only scan the page that I have printed.
natalka
This is all that I have from this bread machine (although I had one before Panasonic), but from these recipes you can understand which program is for what. 1Main; 2. French bread; 3. Whole grain; 4. Sweet bread (suitable for pastries such as Easter cakes and yeast cakes); 5. Fast baking; 6. Pizza dough (yeast); 7. Fresh dough (yeast-free); 8. Bread with yogurt (or with kefir or sour cream - this dough turns out to be heavier); 9. Jam; 10. Baking.
New Tefal Dual Home Baker OW4000 Oven

natalka
Yes, there is nothing Here everyone helps each other

Here, I found the topic where the instruction was. I checked everything swings and opens. I am inserting a quote from another topic.

manual for OW 3000
"Reply # 4: 27 Aug 2007, 09:25:53"

Here is a scanned instruction for 3000.

🔗

I apologize for the page written in pencil ...
Kayman
Can I put in my 5 kopecks?)) ..
Buttercup, the first experiments are probably best done on the program with the largest cycle of work. I have this French (French bread) - 3 hours 50 minutes. Everything will have time to mix and rise.
So that the bread (large) is not with a sugary sweetish aftertaste, add no more than 1 tbsp. l. Sahara.
On the contrary, put more than 1 hour of salt. l. - for example, one and a half spoons.
Dissolve salt and sugar (thank you on the forum) in water or serum (warm) - so as not to scratch Teflon crystals.
First I pour the liquid (with dissolved salt / sugar), then sunflower oil, flour and then yeast, I hide them in the flour .. like a cat I won't say what). Although this is not critical).
The top tip is a little more liquid at first than a little flour. For then the dough is tight and the motor rests so to speak, which is useless. In a thin dough, just spoonfully add flour until the dough begins to peel off the walls of the bucket. You can also add a little flour or leave it as it is, of your choice.
Bon Appetit)).
Lyutik
oh, thanks a lot for the valuable advice. I was just about to start experimenting this weekend, since it all came down to the lack of weights. Yesterday I just bought them. Everything else is already there. So I will bake French bread following your advice.

P.S. For the first time I meet such responsive people on forums. Before that, I somehow visited embroidery more, but the people there are greedy ... So many thanks again to everyone who helps newcomers to master the basics of baking.
Kapet
Just curious what kind of bread machine it is. Tefal, although there are punctures, is very rare, in general, as a rule, good-quality expensive equipment of European assembly. I did not find information on this HP anywhere, except for the meager teflon on the website itself. Maybe someone uses it already? Interestingly, this HP can use two different buckets. Share your impressions attached recipes ...

Shl. Moderu: Why here, on the bread maker website, I can’t leave a link to this bread machine model on the manufacturer’s website. Is this a policy? Or personal problems with Tefal?
Alexandra
Look at your own sister - Bork bread maker
Kapet
Quote: Alexandra

Look at your own sister - Bork bread maker
I looked. Still interested in this HP Tefal, build quality and components, reviews.
Because Tefal is "a little not quite" Bork. This is a kind of anecdote about how billboards "Sven - the leader of multimedia products" are hanging in our Kiev. God bless our calves
Admin
Quote: Kapet

Shl. Moderu: Why here, on the bread maker website, I can’t leave a link to this bread machine model on the manufacturer’s website. Is this a policy? Or personal problems with Tefal?

Because you poorly read (or don't read at all) the Rules of Conduct on the Forum, do not apply external direct links on the forum - and no personal problems will arise either with you personally or with other sites.
Alexandra
Quote: Kapet

I looked. Still interested in this HP Tefal, build quality and components, reviews.
Because Tefal is "a little not quite" Bork. This is a kind of anecdote about how billboards "Sven - the leader of multimedia products" are hanging in our Kiev. God bless our calves

I can’t help here. In my opinion, they are all bought in the same place, in a handicraft workshop in native Chinese. I saw in Turkey about a dozen models-twins of the best models Moulinex, Delonga, Panas, the same Bork and his clone Tefal - under absolutely nothing that does not tell me brands and names

So you shouldn't be talking about world leaders

Well, by the way, if someone used the Tefalev exclusive and found something fundamentally different there, besides Borka 2 buckets, the possibility of programming, baking without the need to wait for the stove to cool down, a pause mode, a backlit touch screen and an internal illumination of the bucket - I will gladly read
Kapet
Quote: Alexandra


So you shouldn't be talking about world leaders

"I do not agree with both" - Sharikov, Heart of a Dog, Bulgakov ...

A purely personal experience of communication with the products of various Brands speaks unequivocally that I have never overpaid for the products of Panasonic, Tefal, Asus and some other leading companies. They simply did not break with me, or had a leading quality for their time. Panasonic is generally a separate conversation. We have 12 products of this company at home - TVs, audio equipment, razors, a meat grinder, a bread maker, a slow cooker, a thermopot, etc.Luxurious quality and reliability, nothing has ever been repaired (knocking on wood). Therefore, I usually take Panas. Irons, a double boiler - only Tefal. The rest of the household is treated in a similar way. I prefer, as we say, to overpay (although I know that this is a payment for a problem-free coexistence or service with the product), but not to save money on the Brand. I have never regretted it, although our wealth has always been below average, that is, we are far from rich enough to buy cheap things.

I mean that all the same, the information on the bread maker is of particular interest to Brand Tefal, and not to the newly minted ambitious phantoms of the third echelon of undetermined citizenship ...
Alexandra
Who can argue
I am sure the functions are the same, I like the Brand clone that appeared much later, so it's a matter of taste

Bork does not have any fundamental differences in quality from the Panas 253 I had earlier, there are no complaints in principle, but there are more functions and bells and whistles. And the stove itself is more compact for a small loaf, which is why it was purchased to replace it. Although about my Panas, who continues to work peacefully with my colleague, I will not say a bad word. And in terms of design, metal suits me much more to the style of the kitchen. That's all
NatalyaN
Tefal Dual Home Baker OW4000
Who saw her? What are the reviews?
Lenusya
Have you met the Tefal bread maker, which is an exact copy of Moulinex?

maybe there is information here
Mams
And it looks like it is not on sale. Therefore, it is unlikely that now anyone can tell about her
Pakat
New Tefal Dual Home Baker OW4000 Oven
There is one on sale, it lies, there is no queue ...
NatalyaN
Quote: Celestine

Why do you need to create another topic of the same kind, do you think they will write more here?

Celestine, Excuse me, but even the topic is called that OW4000 which I created, and in your topic you are discussing 3000 and 5000 models, although the topic was created with the name OW4000.

And I asked about this stove 🔗
NatalyaN
In general, no offense, I came here before creating my topic, but when I saw that none of the answers concern four thousandth models and created my own theme. Therefore, you may think before deleting someone's topic, or maybe the person is right.
P.S. I do not want to offend or offend anyone with my answer. I was just so bewildered when they deleted the theme I created ...
natalka
Yes ... this 4000th is very similar to Bork, even the same two shapes, they differ a little, but the principle is preserved - 1 square, 1 round. The appearance is also very close, but I can’t say anything about the functions, because I don’t have Bork, and I don’t want to compare on the Internet, it will probably be very similar here.
Celestine
Quote: NatalyaN

Therefore, you may think before deleting someone's topic, or maybe the person is right.
P.S. I do not want to offend or offend anyone with my answer. I was just so bewildered when they deleted the theme I created ...

Nobody deleted your topic, just merged them, go back to the page and see your question and the topic is called
I have not met the users of this stove on our forum (maybe they have already appeared, so the difference in numbers, at the moment, is not so important. Therefore, they combined everything into one, so that they would not jump from topic to topic to find: "where- I saw it. "
NatalyaN
Quote: Celestine

therefore, the difference in numbers is not that important at the moment.
Sorry, but the topic concerns 4000why there is a discussion of all the others, but not this one.
If in all the topics they talk not about the things that are written in the title, then what is the point of dividing them into topics at all.
I personally cannot afford to re-read all the topics, so I am guided by the names of those topics that interest me. In principle, surely all other people do the same.
Lenusya
NatalyaN even just typing "4000" in the Search line - the result is given, where your message in this topic is in the first place.
You do not need to reread all the topics, if you do not want to - use the Search.
I think there is no reason to be offended
JFK
Good evening!
I want to raise the Temko. I am in the process of choosing a stove: - \ and this Tefal OW4002 model just appeared on sale in Kiev.The price at the current exchange rate is about $ 240. I like the brand and design. I don't like the price, but this is not a matter of principle. As I understand it, this stove has a lot of twins, but the declared bread size of Tefal is 700, 1kg and 1.2, which is more than that described on the Bork website. One of these days I will get out to the store, evaluate it and feel it with my hands. I am very inclined to buy but my wife is against it, we will fight!
JFK
Was in the store, complete disappointment.
1. Stainless steel body. Maybe inside it is made of stainless steel, but from above it looks like painting with gray metallic. Nearby was Kenwood, who had a stainless steel case, and a high-quality one, and the top was made of white plastic, as for me it looks better and costs 2! times cheaper.
2. A gray plastic cover with a sufficiently large viewing window. The viewing window is just a piece of plastic, that is, its thermal conductivity is very high. I have no experience in baking, maybe this is normal. (At 125 Delongy visually the same)
3. No additional seals on the cover were noticed.
4. No programming.

Of the advantages, only the presence of two buckets.

As for me, it is not worth the money.
Bee
Quote: JFK

Nearby was Kenwood, who had a stainless steel case, and a high-quality one, and the top was made of white plastic, as for me it looks better and costs 2! times cheaper.
If you liked the Kenwood 350, then take it without hesitation. I have something to compare with. The case is made of stainless steel, the window is glass, a wide range of programs (you can combine programs in almost any HP), excellent results (crispy crust, after all, convection), the price is reasonable. True, yesterday I disassembled the lid and inserted the foil (Panasonic made the right decision not to build in the window).
Yes, I heard that round-shaped buckets for cakes have now appeared for the Kenwoods, who knows anything about this, tell me.
Kundze
I found this bread maker with us for $ 160.
Now I'm directly torn between Panasonic ($ 260) and Tefal ($ 160).
I felt it today and tried it on the tooth. I like it. It seems to have already leaned towards Tefal because of the price. Although her size will be more impressive.
And I read JFK's review and doubted again.
I have never used a bread maker.
I would like to enjoy the process.
JFK
My review is that of an amateur. I have not bought or baked anything yet, do not listen to me if you like something. And in which city is 160? Maybe with one bucket?
Kundze
There are two buckets (but they are replaceable). In Riga.
Tefal Dual Home Baker OW4000
So I don't know whether I like it or not, I haven't baked anything yet either-
While purely by touch
JFK
Dug on the Internet, yes, they rip us off as soon as they can. I also found an option in a white case for $ 130, it would suit me perfectly, but this is in France!
Bee
JFK
It only seems that they are duplicated! The names in the topic are the same, but different stoves are discussed!
Zubastik
But I am interested in this stove for its modes. In mine everything suits me. The only thing I don't like is that there is no mode for baking Easter cakes. The normal mode is not suitable - you need something like a mode for sweet bread or cakes. Easter cake with dark, almost black sides is disgusting. Therefore, I always bake in the oven or Multicooker. Was it really impossible to come up with a mode with less heating!
Maybe Tefala has foreseen it? If so, I'll buy one.
Bee
In Delongy and Kenwood, the cakes are excellent on the sweet bread program. In these ovens, the baking temperature on this program is really lower than on the main one. I think that in Tefale too.
Mams
The stove appeared on Tefal's off site: 🔗

Even with instructions.

🔗

An interesting device. It can mix as much as 725 grams of flour!

But the price .... 🔗 7800 rub.
vit99
Good time of the day colleague baker ...
Sorry, I just bought a Tefal Dual Home Baker OW4002 stove a couple of days ago, took it from the window in Eldorado for 1679 UAH. I flipped through the previous discussions and decided to insert my five cents into this topic. As a person who at one time had to do with the maintenance and repair of household appliances from different manufacturers, I think I can give a couple of tips, maybe someone will ease their fate ... Let's start with the question of the place of manufacture of the product. Since this question is of great importance for the layman in the post-Soviet space, mentality, I can reassure, almost all leading manufacturers and not only household appliances have transferred their production to the PRC, then you can forget about small Arnautskaya in Odessa for now.First of all, you need to choose any thing from the standpoint of expediency, why do you need it, or bake bread, or bake a lot of other things, or maybe it would be cooler than your neighbor's, then yourself ... The second important factor today is financial opportunities and not always expensive means good. The third factor is purely subjective, here the thing responded, or saw, oh my, though mystic, but you should not discount it. Well, we have decided on the model and all other matters, let's move on to the technical side of the issue. Ask immediately that you be shown the documents on the device. The quality of their performance, information about the manufacturer, the availability of a warranty card, service at your place of residence, as a rule, firms do this by typographic method according to established samples. If, with the exception of a two-three-page photocopied booklet in which nothing really understands you cannot be offered, you should think about whether you need to pay money. Although there is a lottery here. Such devices often work out their couple of years. Then demand that you be shown the device from all sides. You can also see a lot on it, if the things are branded, everything is painted everywhere. The quality of performance is also evident in this case. I missed one point, the name of the company, it is advisable to choose brands that have proven themselves. Another very significant detail, before buying any equipment, and especially with programs, be it a microwave oven or a bread machine, I strongly recommend that you study the operating modes of your home electrical network. If the voltage in it is stable and amounts to 210-230 volts during the day, then there is nothing to worry about, if there are drops and jumps, then you need to attend to the stability of this parameter. All programs are tested only for a stable 220-230 volt network. Actually on the case and in the passport of the device, this should be displayed. And if you have questions about the voltage of the network, then when you contact the service, you will ruin the mood for yourself and the service. If the devices are brought from abroad, it is even more important to take this into account, since different countries have different standards for the supply network. In Europe, 230 volts is the nominal voltage, we have 220. In the states and Japan, 127 and 100, and even 60 hertz.
In general, maybe not everything, but I hope I indicated the main thing. Do not judge strictly, I am a novice baker. The first standard recipe came out with the smell of yeast, but niche, went with a bang, but the second farm bread, after reading the information from this site, came out like niche. Regarding
the stove itself, many programs, two forms, well done, practical, nothing more. And bakes fine. Even cake can bake.
Mams
vit99, good bread with a new oven!

I read a recipe book for Tefal. At first glance, there are some inconsistencies in the amount of flour / water. Therefore, keep an eye on the mixes, especially at first.

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