gansic
I bought a mill through a flour grinder rf sending a parcel from germany. Delivery is about 20 - 25 days. The courier brought it to the house by Russian post. There were no problems.
Alinenok
Sorry in advance for the inappropriate question ... I have such an electric appliance - a seemingly large coffee grinder with a large bowl and a sharp knife inside - you can't grind wheat for bread with high quality ?! I pray in it sea salt, oatmeal, buckwheat ...
ASandrVK
Good afternoon

completed my mill, it turned out soundly

Household Grain Grinder
grinds all types of grain, corn, peas
productivity with fine grinding 500gr - 10min.
dimensions 15cm x 22cm x 30cm
Weight ~ 8kg
Body - cast iron
Millstones - steel
Coating - polymer paint

Write in a personal to anyone interested, I can make the same to order !!!
Pakat
Household Grain Grinder
15 years ago, I bought a Champion juicer, and then a device for it,
mill for grinding grains. Works seamlessly.
alexthunder
Quote: gansic
I bought a mill through a flour grinder rf sending a parcel from germany. Delivery is about 20 - 25 days. The courier brought ems to the house by Russian post. There were no problems.
How much did the purchase cost you, if not a secret? I would like to compare the prices of this Riga store with Germany.
alexthunder
Quote: iu-ra

It's so good that there is such a topic! I just got a glimpse of a hand mill. This one: Country Living Grain Mill. They write - the best. Dee and I like it outwardly! :)

In this regard, the question is: who has the experience of ordering this mill from the Bourgeoisie? So far I only bought from ebay, and even then through an intermediary. How do such things go through our customs?
I brought in a rather large KitchenAid mixer. The box weighed 16kg. True, all this was delivered by DHL Express. At customs clearance, I was asked to write an explanation that it is for personal use, why the mixer is so heavy. With Russian Post and EMC, everything is much easier, since it is unrealistic to physically inspect all the parcels.

So if it's for personal use, then there shouldn't be any problems.

As for this model, then I have a question whether it is worth the money. You can even get an electric Hawos in Germany cheaper. It seems to me that manual ones should be taken cheaper and smaller.
Gorolga
Good day!
Yes, it also seems to me that a grain mill is better than an electric one ... a mechanical one - to indulge, and then it will roll around! And we will suffer with it a bit, play around, and then either we will buy an electric one, or we will abandon this business at all! (purely my opinion)
It is probably advisable only for super-small volumes (add 50-100 grams of grain or corn flour to bread SOMETIMES !!!)
Maybe someone has terrible power outages or take it with you on a hike?
Ardent fans of everything super-natural?
For example, I have 2 coffee grinders - electric and manual ... and the electric one is quite unpretentious for 300 rubles ... I almost always use electric. Manual - for beauty it is on the shelf or sometimes I use it when I want to "ritually drink coffee" ...
And besides, the price of manual ones is almost as much as electric ones ... I don't see the point! Maybe someone has extra money, of course ...

I've been baking bread for 10 years, mostly in a bread machine. I have a Hitachka 303.
And finally, I was jolted by the topic of freshly ground grain flour and wholesome food in general ... I go to the store almost like on an excursion - I'll take something from the shelf, I'll look at the composition - and I'll put it back !!! Soon I will probably switch to my own farm ... or is it already a phobia? ..
In the summer, I grow quail ducks in the country for meat, plant what I can (this is worse for me), so that I eat as little as possible purchased ...

I want to order a grain mill in Germany ...Only I can't decide on the model ...
I don’t want a very expensive one - you can certainly strain yourself, but is it worth it?
As I understand it, 360 watts and above are better.
I chose Hawos Easy ... but I doubt it ...
Grinding adjustment is not like most of her ... a wheel, not a lever ... I'm worried about fine grinding - will it work?
corn and rice are not an end in themselves - can occasionally add 50 grams to bread or when bake corn tortillas ...
On the manufacturer's website, with frequent use for corn or rice, it is advised to take more powerful ones, or at least more so that the millstones are ... I often don't need ... but I doubt it won't break?
Again, Easy has this 10-year warranty for home use and only 2 years for professional use ... but there are models where a 12-year warranty is given .. or is it not important?

And one more thing: at first I also wanted to buy a manual Phoenix grain press ... because the electric one is expensive and takes up a lot of space ...
and maybe it will turn out the same - will it gather dust? Maybe you need an electric one right away or not at all?
Of course, I liked 2in1 Duet1 and Duet2 ... but is it necessary? And the price bites ...
Help with advice, plizzz!
alexthunder
There are 2 in one mills and grain mills, both manual and electric. But electric, of course, will be twice as expensive as Hawos Easy.
And for professional use, there are many models, including Russian-made. In terms of performance, they cannot be compared with home ones, but they also take up incomparably more space.
Gorolga
No, I'm not talking about that production ...
Well, for example, you have a small pastry shop, where a mill is needed for the production of fillings for sweets and dough for cakes, and the production volume is 10-20 kg per day, or something like that ... then probably just a 2-year warranty .. but this is not my case, I am purely for myself.
our mills either in the form of attachments for a combine with metal millstones, it seems to me that the quality is not right ...
or for farmers 150 kg per hour is more grinding for livestock, that is, very coarse. I have such a crusher in my dacha with a sieve of 3 and 8 mm it seems - it turns out heterogeneously if sieved, part - very coarse flour, part - coarse grains come out. I use this grinder to grind grain for young poultry.
and there are our mills and crushers in terms of production volumes for a small plant ... this is not our case at all!
For the delights of baking and healthy eating for a family, it is the German household mills and crushers that are most suitable, it seems to me ... For some reason, I liked the American ones less ...
I have already studied the assortment quite well, but I doubt the model - which one should I prefer and why?
Larisa 22
Good evening everyone . I want to write about my mill, for those who are looking for and doubting. I've been baking bread in bread makers for 9 years. About two years ago we had the Internet, I learned a lot about the dangers of thermophilic tremors, about whole grain bread, about sourdough, and I really wanted to bake such bread, especially since my doctor advised me to eat coarse bread. I began to look everywhere for wheat and rye flour of 1 - 2 grades in stores, I did not find anything on the base, then I came across a cheap book, Baking bread at home, and here I read that freshly ground flour is stored for no more than 2 weeks, since there there is a germ oil that goes rancid, now it became clear to me that there is no point in looking for flour in stores. We started looking for a mill because there are no problems with grain. We found an online store in the baltics, but the prices were not happy, it is not cheap for us and we have never bought goods abroad. All the mills are beautiful, they didn't know which one to choose.
Larisa 22
Good evening everyone . I want to write about my mill, for those who are looking for and doubting. I bake bread in bread makers for 9 years. About two years ago we had the Internet, I learned a lot about the dangers of thermophilic tremors, about whole grain bread, about sourdough, and I really wanted to bake such bread, especially since my doctor advised me to eat coarse bread. I began to look everywhere for wheat and rye flour of 1 - 2 grades in stores, I did not find anything on the base, then I came across a cheap book "Baking bread at home"and here I read that freshly ground flour can be stored for no more than 2 weeks, since there is germ oil there that turns rancid, now it became clear to me that there is no point in looking for flour in stores. We started looking for a mill because there are no problems with grain. We found an online store in the baltics, but the prices were not happy, it is not cheap for us and we never bought a product abroad, it was our first purchase. All the mills are beautiful, they didn't know which one to choose. We chose the Hawoos Billy 100 mill because a 10-year warranty already says a lot, a powerful production motor, corundum millstones ceramic (eternal millstones) my dad is a top-class milling cutter says corundum cuts metal and it is very beautiful. And about the high price, everything is known in comparison, it is not for one year, I am very pleased with the mill, it turns out fine grinding, we can have different flour. We chose a model that would be sure to grind corn, we can't buy corn flour, I brought it from Moldova, corn turns out very tasty and satisfying tortillas. Corn grows in our garden. Whoever will try to grind the corn should be well dried, it is better to first grind it into a coarse grind, sift it into a cloth bag and dry it on a battery otherwise it can get moldy, corn grits are also to dry and after that you can grind flour. I didn't get corn flour right away; the middle of the grain dries poorly. I bake only whole-grain bread in a bread machine, mostly rye with sourdough, the bread is very tasty and aromatic. Whole grain flour requires more water, my bread rises better by 500 grams. flour 440 water. Our mill with delivery cost us somewhere in 12,500 thousand. there are mills cheaper, but as my husband says, you will save 2 thousand. then you will regret this mill for more than one year, and the children will remain, we have an electric mill and I really want it and now I look after the manual one, that tomorrow there will be electricity and gas, I don’t hope for that.
Omela
Larissa, what kind of mill are we talking about ??
Larisa 22
German electric mill Hawos Billy 100,
Omela
I have heard many positive reviews about this mill. We sell it at 2 times more expensive.
Larisa 22
This model Billy 100 is the cheapest one, we have it for more than a year, works for 2 families, now my sister will also order the mill. I bought a mill in a Baltic store, the package took 3 weeks, the instructions for the mill were in Russian. Be careful who will order in other stores, for example, in America on Ebey and Amazon, they have a different voltage in the network. I want to write about my new purchase, suddenly someone will come in handy, a month after they bought a Chinese cheap VM bread maker - 4014 V VR costs 2300 rubles. has its own program, the spreading of the sourdough dough can be programmed up to 4 hours, has the function of simply baking, you can set the desired time from 10 minutes. up to 2 hours, it would be good if it served for a long time and the stove is excellent. If anyone fails to figure out the program, write in a personal I will help. And for those who have and breed their own poultry, pay attention to the American autoclave, this is a mini cannery, you can preserve any meat, mushrooms, vegetables, eat domestic ones, but they lose to the American ones.
pushkar
Quote: Larisa 22

This model Billy 100 is the cheapest one, we have it for more than a year, works for 2 families, now my sister will also order the mill. I bought a mill in a Baltic store, the package took 3 weeks, the instructions for the mill were in Russian. Be careful who will order in other stores, for example, in America on Ebey and Amazon, they have a different voltage in the network. I want to write about my new purchase, suddenly someone will come in handy, a month after they bought a Chinese cheap VM bread maker - 4014 V VR costs 2300 rubles. has its own program, the spreading of the sourdough dough can be programmed up to 4 hours, has the function of simply baking, you can set the desired time from 10 minutes.up to 2 hours, it would be good if it served for a long time and the stove is excellent. If anyone fails to figure out the program, write in a personal I will help. And for those who own and breed their own poultry, pay attention to the American autoclave, this is a mini cannery, you can preserve any meat, mushrooms, vegetables, eat domestic ones, but they lose to the American ones.
I fully confirm.
I took it for ebay. Cost 6500r. with delivery. 23 liters.
Made 2 portions of stew and sold.
My wife did not understand me. bad luck. To me.
Larisa 22
At one time, when I was looking for a mill, I found such information, iron millstones become dull over time, it is necessary to buy additional millstones (the best stone millstones), if an electric mill with iron millstones during grinding significantly heats up the flour and oxidizes the germ oil in the grain, which has a bad effect on quality flour. Within this amount, you can buy a German ruch. mill 30 gr. a piece of chalk. grinding flour in min. there is a stream on Amazon. mills that grind somewhere 70 and 100, 180 grams of chalk flour. pom. but they cost from 20 to 30 thousand.
Larissa 22
Looking for what it is to you? If baking your own bread is worth it! even if you buy a mill for 20 thousand. Electric on Amazon is not worth buying a different voltage there.
pushkar
Quote: Larisa 22

Looking for what it is to you? If baking your own bread is worth it! even if you buy a mill for 20 thousand. Electric on Amazon is not worth buying a different voltage there.
Yes, bake bread.
I know about power supply by country.
Pakat
Quote: Larisa 22

Electric on Amazon is not worth buying a different voltage there.
Amazons are different, in Germany the same 220 volts ...
pushkar
Quote: Pakat

Amazons are different, in Germany the same 220 volts ...
I totally agree.
iri_ka
Please tell me, has anyone tried to grind chickpeas into flour?
What did you grind with?
Bortnik
People help me to buy an inexpensive manual mill, a grain crusher (there are a lot of grain in bags), the store has closed at least flour to grind a loaf of bread, if someone does it himself, let us agree in a personal message. Thank you in advance.
Rapunzel
Quote: Natalia5
ordered the Fidibus Medium mill

Natalya, tell me, what kind of flour do you have at the exit? Hot?
I ordered from the German site Fidibus XL. So the flour is hot enough. Degrees 50-60 probably.
I heard that there might be transport bolts in the mill ... you didn't unscrew anything?


Added Wednesday 29 Jun 2016 04:45 AM

Understood. I have set the grind too fine, the millstones are clogged. Therefore, the flour poured slowly and became very hot. I cleaned the millstones, everything is fine now.
VladlenaMoskva
Great theme. Facing a choice, I think about eight months already. Since the bread maker has already been mastered. The question is price - quality, of course. Well, I think about volumes. It seems that it is not necessary to grind a lot yet. Who has experience in using? Electric or manual - which is more convenient or just faster? And has anyone tried the Marcato Marga mill? I liked that you can buy it with or without a motor, or buy it in addition, if necessary. It comes out universally. But is a motor needed?
Rapunzel
Looked at this Italian mill.
Like a grain mill - yes. As a mill will not work. Because:
1. Steel drums with this "tread pattern" will wear off over time.
2. She is unlikely to grind rice and corn. Peas and beans definitely not. The rollers will not be able to capture them. For small grains only. I have a grain mill with these rollers. I thought I would sprout chickpeas and make flakes, it didn't work out. That is, only for wheat and rye. Something small and not very hard.
3. This "flour grinder" is well suited as a grain mill. You can still press spices, small nuts in it.
Therefore, it is better to take a classic mill. Preferably with stone millstones.
About the motor and hands:
1. For manual grinding - 90 g / min of coarse grinding. That is, we multiply the small one by at least 3, or even all five. For small bread, you need 300-500g of flour. So calculate how much time you will spend on grinding.
2. Physical activity.As I mentioned, I have a grain mill with similar rollers. Twisting is hard enough. And here you need to do it for at least 10-15 minutes. Dubious pleasure. Play around once - yes, in the long term it will strain you.

Stone millstones are better because they can be said to be eternal and do not heat up so much. If you plan to grind 1-2 loaves of bread a week, then steel will do, but not like Italian. These must be classic teeth.
And the grind of steel is slightly coarser.

I'd rather buy the simplest electric one with stone (if you need a finer grinding) or steel millstones (a little coarser grinding).


Added on Tuesday 02 Aug 2016 03:48 AM

Now I looked at the website getreidemuehlen.de the Komo Fidibus 21 mill costs 241 euros. We subtract 13% tax from this amount. And plus the delivery of 50 euros in my opinion. It turns out 260 euros for everything. Certainly more expensive than Italian, but you take it once and it should be enough for a very, very long time.
alexthunder
Hand-made is more of a toy. It gets boring to grind quickly, even if the volumes are not so large.
VladlenaMoskva
Rapunzel, alexthunder, thank you for your answers! Still deciding. I will try to visit the HouseHold Expo on September 13-15, where the mills will be shown. And, if there is also a demonstration of grinding, I will look and decide. Komo, in principle, could arrange, I will compare and understand more, but it seemed that there is not enough power for electric? There is nothing to compare in work. Someone will tell you whether power has a big role in the work or does it only affect the speed of work?
Admin
Quote: VladlenaMoskva
Does power play a big role in work or does it only affect the speed of work?

Power, it is power in Africa! Power makes it possible to grind strong seeds, cereals, even corn. Here speed is not as important as being able to handle tough grains.
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Home mills... How to choose the right technique for health.

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Pasada
Long dreamed of a home electric mill. German and Austrian ones are good, but their price is high, even for lower models. The quality of the flour purchased in a store or ordered on the internet did not suit me.
Coincidentally, my patience ran out, and Russian-made electric mills appeared on our market. I liked the model "Melnik-classic". The price is adequate, 19500. The characteristics are good, and very nice, too!))


Manufactured by WOOD MILL.
But doubts prevailed. New manufacturer, few product reviews. The characteristics inspired optimism, began to take action) I called and asked in detail about everything. The body is made in Russia, the millstones and the motor in Bulgaria. I took a short break and ... bought it! Joy knew no bounds! Of course, I immediately tried to grind the grain, however, I did not immediately figure out the fine grinding settings: I moved the thicket, turning off the mill every time, and set it up correctly when it was running. 17 degrees of grinding, the first three are of no use to me, too fine.

I was a little capricious on rye with a very fine grinding, but this moment is also present in much more expensive mills.

It is a very special and very warm feeling to see how the grain turns into flour, to touch it. The windmill at home is a miracle, how good!

Thus, I got a dream and supported the Russian manufacturer))
The company representatives are very polite, answer all questions in detail, it is a pleasure to deal with them.
5-year warranty.

I hope that the information will be useful to someone.I was pretty worn out when choosing a mill and decided to share my impressions of the purchase.

Photo next to a two-kilogram bag of flour, for understanding the dimensions

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book555
Quote: Pasadena
Coincidentally, my patience ran out, and Russian-made electric mills appeared on our market.
My patience ran out before the release of such mills by a Russian manufacturer, I bought a mill from Hawos before the moment the mills from a Russian manufacturer entered the market. Today I would have already thought about which mill to buy - a German or a Russian one: the price of an imported one bites significantly. According to the video review, Russian mills are very similar to imported ones. Why am I surprised? What is the design of the mill? Case with millstones and engine. Externally, the mills are all the same, but it is difficult to say whether there are internal differences. One thing I can say is that the mill from Hawos looks flawless live, and when working even with hard grain, corn, for example, does not stumble (though I note that I have an older model with a 600W motor). I believe that even with a lower engine power, the mills grind hard grain without much difficulty.
rudnik-mir
book555Good afternoon, I can say that at first I bought into the mill of a Russian manufacturer. Oh, how she disappointed me, and it seems that a special millstone, motor and body. NOOOOO, the first thing that disappointed me very much was how the grinding was regulated (it was necessary to turn the head of the mill, and then tighten it with the screw. plastic is the same as that of the Germans, BUT the screw was tightened straight into this plastic and it was all black and punctured, I think that the Germans use better quality plastic. After I ground the flour on it, I had to clean up the whole kitchen, since there was flour dust everywhere. But well that ends well, I won a refund).

And bought Hawos Queen2. I bought it on the website of Riga, about these feelings after our Russian from the IP. I experienced great pleasure, quietly, cleanly quickly! When I was looking for a mill, it is either expensive here, or you can pay 100% prepayment there ... On the site itself there are reviews of people, I wrote out their names and surnames and searched on the Internet and found, one of the buyers who left a review there turned out to be almost mine a neighbor who has been using the mill from this site for a year, after talking with him, I also took a chance and ordered. Sent from Germany delivery cost me 3000 rubles, the collection of Sberbank for translation 1600 rubles, and that with a mill 32000, this is against 50,000 rubles from Russian sites. I use it, I enjoy it, I enjoy it, I bake delicious bread. Good luck to everyone, and I will add, it is better to take a manual one, but a German, or at least not via the Internet, a Russian manufacturer, you need to touch and disassemble in order to understand what kind of animal it is. I got burned very badly.




book555And in Hawos, the grind is regulated by moving the lever right / left, you don't need to turn anything anywhere.
book555
rudnik-mir, Your experience will be useful to those who choose the mill. I am already the proud owner of Hawos. Of course, I did not go deep into the details of the difference between Russian and German mills, because I do not need it. By the way, not all Hawos models are adjustable with a left-right lever (I have a mill with a left-right lever), in the Easy model, for example, adjustment with a wheel. Imported mills from Komo, in some models, the grinding size is adjusted by turning the head. Most likely also, as you describe in your model of a Russian mill

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