Choosing a gas stove

[Doxy]

Doxy, only the stone may not be able to be shoved into the oven, where water is poured between the trays. Rather, you can stick it in, but it can crack. I read that if there is a lot of steam under the stone, then it, penetrating into the porous clay and expanding, can cause the stone to crack. Well, maybe it's only about clay stones. I do a little steam when I bake bread. But I just puff when I put the dough in the oven, on the walls of the oven from a spray bottle, but there is a couple of it, a couple of puffs, it doesn't reach the stone, but if there is a steam room from below, it might split. On the other hand, maybe a stone is not needed in such an oven, if the steam normalizes everything. But I would be tense with the steam - I have to watch all the time so that the whole thing does not evaporate, add, and I don't want to arrange an extra steam room in my kitchen, especially right now, in the heat. But, again, I have not come across such an oven system, maybe everything is hermetically sealed and the steam does not penetrate outside in any way, ask around Shade.

I read that if there is a lot of steam under a stone, then it, penetrating into porous clay and expanding, can cause the stone to crack ..

I don’t use pallets with water!

But it would be tense for me with the steam - I have to watch it all the time so that it does not evaporate all, add ...

In order to avoid dancing with steam, I bake bread in a cauldron, loaves in a glass duck))) I'm more worried about the quality of muffins, pies, biscuits and cookies ... That's for them, birthmarks, the stone, I think, will become a "leveler".

Peace be with you bakers!
Doxy- - Poke pzhlsta, where are the details!

well, now I don’t remember where and whether I described the technology

remove the top cover \ usually 4 screws \ and remove the bottom one in the oven \ it just slid out \
below you will see 2 connections 1 electric ignition and 2 gas control
if you do not figure out what to what, pull it in turn and look from above where it fits
Well, then everything can simply be disconnected from both sides, or you can dismantle completely
i.e
unscrew it nafig !!))

and the principle of operation of gas control is as follows

there is a thermocouple
When the thermocouple heats up, it begins to generate electricity, sooo little, but enough for the gas control valve to be held on the solenoid
As soon as the flame has gone out, the thermocouple begins to cool down, stops generating current, the magnetic field in the solenoid weakens and the valve bounces off, shutting off the gas.

I am more worried about the quality of muffins, pies, biscuits and cookies ... It’s for them, birthmarks, the stone, I think, will become a "leveler".

I have a gas Hephaestus, she also danced in front of her when baking, it will burn on one side, then the bottom will burn. And this continued until she put the stone in the oven, now everything is in order. And I had no more complaints about her, everything else works fine

I have a gas Hephaestus, she also danced in front of her when baking, it will burn on one side, then the bottom will burn. And this continued until she put the stone in the oven, now everything is in order. And I had no more complaints about her, everything else works fine

Flax, I confirm, such a beautiful biscuit you have on a pebble comes out in your gas Hephaestus, a miracle, I saw a photo in Temka about a stone.

Peace be with you bakers!

ah I'm old - a head with a hole: D forgotten completely

can be made even easier
it is necessary to lock the button like the button is always pressed

can be made even easier
it is necessary to lock the button like the button is always pressed

Mercys, I wrote it down!

I have a gas Hephaestus, she also danced in front of her when baking, it will burn on one side, then the bottom will burn.And this continued until she put the stone in the oven, now everything is in order. And I had no more complaints about her, everything else works fine

Oh, thank you for your confirmation !!! Now I will not rack my brains when choosing an oven - I have a saving stone! I will choose according to "design"))

: girl_cray: The Boshevsk stove won't fit in my kitchen. Or you need to rearrange-outweigh the entire headset. In short, among the stoves 50 cm wide, they are solid fires and some kind of pestilence. And, more Hefest. But their oven is squalor. What to do?

[plagues]

burning and plagues some. And, more hefest. But their oven is squalor. What to do? ...

They wrote about Mora on the previous page, that they took her because of a good oven
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=3366.0
Write to the author in a personal, ask in detail

"Mora" - brand number 1, ask the gas industry. Back in 2004, I specially ordered this brand, then it already cost 14,000 rubles. And she's definitely worth her money. It costs as much as two indesites. Me and my kuma "Mora" can do everything! I have a combined stove of 50 cm, the top is gas, with gas control, an electric oven with convection and a bunch of modes.

In short, among the stoves 50 cm wide, they are solid fires and some kind of pestilence. And, more Hefest. But their oven is squalor. What to do?

strange ... where are you? Look in the Yandex market, there are electric suites, and aeg, and ardo with indesites - which is not there! True, boshes cannot be found, they do not make narrow slabs.

And my husband bought me a gas hob, on ceramics, with 5 burners, Siemens and I, as a child, can’t get enough of an oven, there are such convenient runners and two baking sheets in the set - very convenient!

"Mora" - brand number 1, ask the gas industry. Back in 2004, I specially ordered this brand, then it already cost 14,000 rubles. And she's definitely worth her money. It costs as much as two indesites. Me and the kuma "Mora" can do everything! I have a combined stove of 50 cm, the top is gas, with gas control, an electric oven with convection and a bunch of modes.

Can you give more details? As I understand it, the oven only runs on electricity? What is your stove model? I have a direct tragedy, the handles on the stove burners broke. Now we need to get rid of the old woman and buy a new one ...

Yes, the top is gas and the oven is powered by electricity. Such plates are called combined. Slab width 50 cm. Made in Moravia Slovenia. There are no model numbers on the plate. I don’t remember the numbers of the model. Look for a passport - I don't even remember where it lies. Probably now they are producing similar models. You need to enter the phrase "gas combined stove" Mora "or" Moravia "into the search engine. When you get to the combined stoves, you are already looking for a 50 cm stove in them. Now such combined stoves of 50 cm are sold.
I determined my model, it turns out that it is still on sale, I have it with a pull-out bottom drawer and a programmer, model "Moravia" 2479.

Thank you very much!!!!!

"Mora" - brand number 1, ask the gas industry. Back in 2004, I specially ordered this brand, then it already cost 14,000 rubles.

MORA is the economy variant of GORENJE, just like the Zanussi is the economy variant of Electrolux.

And which gas stove has the best oven to keep the temperature normal. For example, in my current old lady, it is very inconvenient to bake meringues. Either it will underperform, then it will short out ... And tender Easter cakes should be initially at 160 gr. bake. and after the first batch, at least turn off the oven to cool down. The second batch no longer comes out as it should ... So I got used to it, almost everything bakes, but sometimes low temperatures are very important

[thermostat]

Lena, just like you, was looking for a gas oven with low temperatures, the consultant of the "refrigerator" forum wrote that the minimum gas temperature is 150 degrees, for meringues you need to take an electric oven - it stably keeps a low temperature. I decided that I would do without the meringue ...

For a stable temperature in a gas oven, there must be thermostat, it seems now all ovens with a thermostat, although I may be wrong.

Got it, thanks. Without meringues, I can’t do it yet .. I’ll probably still have to take an additional electric one ... Damn, the stove decided to glue the fins at the wrong time

Today I walked through the local three shops .. Well, damn it, except for Hephaesttes, Kraft and some Lada, there is nothing ... I looked after myself Hephaestus 1500 K19. What do you think is a normal stove? Stopped at it due to the fact that the oven is large. so everything seems to be there. Mechanical timer, Rotisserie, gas grill, electric ignition of the oven and stove, true from the button, not automatic ... I really don't like that marble ... I don't know why annoying ..

Today I walked through the local three shops .. Well, damn it, except for Hephaesttes, Kraft and some Lada, there is nothing ... I looked for Hephaestus 1500 K19. What do you think is a normal stove? Stopped at it due to the fact that the oven is large. so everything seems to be there. The timer is mechanical, Spit, gas grill, electric ignition of the oven and stove, true from the button, not automatic ... I really don't like that marble ... I don't know why annoying ..

And why don't you want a combined stove or an inline, I have an electric oven in the presence of gas, I have been using an ARDO installation for 12 years, only recently they understood Siemens, and that was not because of a breakdown, but simply got bored and took it to the country house.

Today I walked through the local three shops .. Well, damn it, except for Hephaesttes, Kraft and some Lada, there is nothing ... I looked for Hephaestus 1500 K19. What do you think is a normal stove? Stopped at it due to the fact that the oven is large. so everything seems to be there. The timer is mechanical, Spit, gas grill, electric ignition of the oven and stove, true from the button, not automatic ... I really don't like that marble ... I don't know why annoying ..

My friend had new gas. plate Hephaestus. She baked and thought that everything was fine. But when I was remodeling the kitchen, I decided to buy an extension, although I hesitated for a long time. Now she has an electric oven, in her words, much better than Hephaestus. This is what it means to compare.
And I have a combination stove: gas top, electric oven - sooooo happy.

I really want a built-in or combination cooker. But it all comes down to electricity bills. I bake very often (cakes for people). I'm thinking for myself over time to take e-mail separately. oven, but I don't know how it will look. I want too much and the place in the kitchen is not rubber

Today I walked through the local three shops .. Well, damn it, except for Hephaesttes, Kraft and some Lada, there is nothing ... I looked after myself Hephaestus 1500 K19. What do you think is a normal stove? Stopped at it due to the fact that the oven is large. so everything seems to be there. The timer is mechanical, Spit, gas grill, electric ignition of the oven and stove, true from the button, not automatic ... I really don't like that marble ... I don't know why annoying ..

Lena, if annoying - don't take it! I remember, at the dawn of my youth, I passionately wanted a brown stove, when I saw it in "business", that is, in the kitchen in the interior - I suddenly got sick, looks "cheap"! All the same, the colored plate attracts a lot of attention, which means it should be perfect! But only Italian ILVE and SMEG have seen ideal colored plates, but they cost soooo money - mamadaragaya ...

Can you buy it via the Internet?

I saw the beauty of GORENJE GI 52 CLI, but apart from Eldorado it is nowhere to be found, in any store in the world! Suspicious, however! So I want to see her live ...

So modern stoves do not take a lot of energy, the main thing is that the consumption is class A, they are very economical!

But it all comes down to electricity bills. I bake very often (cakes for people).

To bake a cake in an electric oven, you need to spend as much as one kilowatt-hour of electricity. It is expensive? IMHO the only contraindication can be only weak wiring.

So modern stoves do not take a lot of energy, the main thing is that the consumption is class A, they are very economical!

It is clear that they are economical, but I don’t want to pay too much, I pay a fixed price for gas, but for electricity according to the meter! I have already counted, one inclusion of the 2KV stove - 8 rubles ... I bake bread every other day, not counting cookies, muffins and pizzas. Overhead!

To bake a cake in an electric oven, you need to spend as much as one kilowatt-hour of electricity. It is expensive? IMHO the only contraindication can be only weak wiring.

Yes, the house is 56 years old ... The wiring is old ...

I really want a built-in or combination cooker. But it all comes down to electricity bills. I bake very often (cakes for people). I'm thinking for myself over time to take e-mail separately. oven, but I don't know how it will look. I want too much and the place in the kitchen is not rubber

In an electric oven, everything is much more stable in temperature, you can adjust the top-bottom, again, you can do low temperatures there. For example, to make cakes for a cake - nut meringue. I have gas burning, so the temperature is the lowest - 160 degrees, nothing lower. So I think baking cakes in electro would be a pleasure. And the electrician .... Well, skoko there will reel on one cake. You nibble on the counter, count and just give the cakes a little more expensive. Maybe it will not be so and much more expensive for customers, but the baking process will be a pleasure for you. Gas is a lottery. Almost all of them have problems - it burns, then it bakes unevenly, the gas control of the oven again treads. I bake bread every other day and then I got it so that I took a shovel and smashed this stove nafig. ... It's good that I called the master and he took it off for me. So electro is better than a stopudo. Just how are you with the wiring? There, for electricity, you need a socket for a powerful consumer, with grounding, a thick cable. We must do this if there is no such thing. This is the minus.

bliiin .... I don’t know how to be now. No, Gas definitely. Because in summer gas bills are five times less than electricity bills. Well, very expensive .. We have new wiring normal. We are doing repairs ... Everything. thought up. I have a summer kitchen, which we will finally finish building in a couple of years. From there the new slab will move. And in the house I will buy a built-in or gas-electric ...
🔗 here I choose between these two, if 6500-03 D1K can be ordered true. And now the store has a marble one. I want to make the kitchen orange. Therefore, I think the brown stove will look fine .. I am confused by the slight difference in functions and the volume of the oven. In marble, it is larger. This turned out to be the determining factor for me so far.

Helen, so what's not urgent for you? science does not stand still, and when you are going to buy an installation it will be sooo economical!

Don't ... I'm urgent now. my old lady waved her hands at me and threw them off. Two working burners remained out of four And both handles on these two burners broke ... so I ran to the store. Because I am afraid with the further exploitation of this miracle, we can explode

bliiin .... I don’t know how to be now. No, Gas definitely.

Lena, have you seen this one? 🔗
and a more budgetary option 🔗

No. We have only Hephaestus and Everything .... for other plates you have to go to the city. But this is now impossible. Therefore, I choose from what is

It's a pity .. I categorically don't want Hephaestus anymore .. I drank too much (And through the online store you have any way?

Frankly speaking, I can't even imagine how such a large-sized plate will be delivered. I live in a village ...

And I'm in the village, Everything is fine.) The main thing is that the store is reliable, and the shopping center that will deliver

Not .. it will turn out to be expensive, but I already have an unforeseen purchase mln .. In installments

Len, then I'll take a look at our native forums about the Hephaestus that you looked after

Here is one of the most detailed (
The design of the hob is inconvenient, the grates are movable, and if you move the pot by 20 liters. there is every chance to "miss" and jump right onto the burner.After half a year, the bolts of the second glass in the oven rusted, which ruled out possible dismantling and cleaning of the space between the glasses. All other fasteners went to rust a year after purchase. The paint on the metal elements began to swell almost in the third month of operation. Electric ignition retired after a year and a half. Adjusting the height of the legs is fun for the patient. The light comes on together with the grill. The bottom drawer lives a separate life and wakes up every time you open the oven.
The rest are similar .. I hope I didn’t upset me much, I’m just toiling myself with the same task for several months

Tina thanks a lot !!!

Lena, there are all good reviews about such reviews - GEFEST 1200 CK60, maybe you have it on sale

And this one GEFEST 6300-03 СД1А

Tinochka thanks a lot !!! I'll go to the store tomorrow to look. If not, I will order to bring it.

Not at all) The main thing is to make it happy) True, they are not brown, but what really is Now I will throw a couple more) GEFEST 6100-02 СН3
Here is a review about her
So hello. We have been using this unit for half a year, it leaves a very positive impression. Clarification, this model has 4 types, 1-4, we have 6100-02 CH3, there are also 6100-02 CH4. In short, it is worth taking either 3 or 4, 1 and 2 does not make sense. Advantages of model 6100-02 CH3:
1. The price, everything is clear, is much cheaper than Ariston.
2. Electric ignition of the oven and all 4 cooking zones.
3. Gas oven (this is a plus for us).
4. Oven top bake available.
5. Timer and time on the stove itself.
6. The surface is made of stainless steel, there are no corners, everything is perfectly washed out and by the way it does not leave streaks, which is surprising.
7. Large oven, by the way, there are even 3 models - grill, chicken, kebabs. but we did not try)))), in the 4th it is even steeper ...
8. Looks very stylish, when installed, our old kitchen immediately played differently (we have 60 cm)
9. There are all sorts of pleasant little things, too lazy to write, but the conclusion is that Hephaestus has done enough painstakingly and thoughtfully.

Oh, Len, I found a brown GEFEST 1300 K39, or rather it is chocolate-colored, you might like it .. the reviews are good, at a price of 360-400 USD. e.

Peace be with you bakers!
and after Hephaestus, Darina seemed more thoughtful to us

I study these plates and think that they are all, in principle, normal, only you need to adapt to them, as to any technique: doctor: I certainly prefer the latest developments. I love all sorts of bells and whistles .. But the buttons are also embarrassing, will they stick over time ... tomorrow I'll go to the store to feel the most annoying thing that apart from these Hephaestus there is nothing. But I still have to come. I will take the combined one later (in a few years that way)

Peace be with you bakers!

yes the buttons will stick with time \ it was like that \
but this is mostly from dirty / greasy / hands
I didn’t bother and when they \ buttons \ started to stick, I just bought and put new ones
neeeeeee you do not think that the well can often times a year well, so we are pigs
fortunately, the store with spare parts is not useful, and they cost quite a penny
and even now --120 rubles \ current that looked \ and other spare parts are inexpensive

Recommend the oven to the hob 🔗... So that it looks organic. In general, the hob and the oven must somehow be connected, well, inside? Or is it possible, in principle, to take any? In general, help me figure out this topic plllz !!!

You have an independent gas surface. The oven can be taken any independent and placed anywhere
Look at these: Gorenje BO5334DB, Gorenje BO 71 SYB, Gorenje BO 5330 MG, Gorenje BO7454DB, Gorenje BO 7345 AB.

Recommend the oven to the hob 🔗... So that it looks organic. In general, the hob and the oven must somehow be connected, well, inside? Or is it possible, in principle, to take any? In general, help me figure out this topic plllz !!!

The characteristic to your surface says, independent. This means you can buy any oven that you like and that will fit in design.

Recommend the oven to the hob 🔗... So that it looks organic. In general, the hob and the oven must somehow be connected, well, inside? Or is it possible, in principle, to take any? In general, help me figure out this topic plllz !!!

And fix the link to not active, like this.