Thermopot

[frequent bends with a small radius]

In general, I will never again leave any electrical appliance without my presence at home. nafig nafig.

Will you turn off the refrigerator too? Do you happen to have a modern ceramic hob that is constantly connected to the mains?

One note - the thermopot was in the corner for these 2 years and therefore its wire near the plug was bent up and to the side, it is possible that this is bad

If the wire has not been exposed frequent bends with a small radius and strong heat, then for him these are quite good operating conditions.
In addition, if something happened to the wire, for example, a short circuit, then the circuit breaker (or RCD) should trip on this group of outlets.

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I was disappointed in the thermal pot, although it was of a Japanese assembly and met the requirements in all respects.

The thermo-pot I have for a year of work (even less) failed. The worst thing is that the heating relay stopped working and he turned on himself and boiled water all the way until it boiled away completely. The last time it was at night, all three liters of water boiled away. And if there are old elderly people or children at home ... now I have an old grandmother and is afraid to approach the kettle.

Now only an electric kettle, which quickly boils and turns off quickly. And the heating time of a good kettle is rather short, you won't even have time to wash yourself.

Al kettle never let me down, how many of them there were.

I also quickly broke down ... in my opinion the Panasonic was just

In general, I will never again leave any electrical appliance without my presence at home. nafig nafig ...

ABOUT! I just saw your story with the thermopot. And what do I have to say: you will not be protected.

In our house last year at exactly 25 December at 10 pm the lights went out. This was not particularly surprising to anyone, since we have such things. But I saw that the lantern in front of the house was on, it turns out that there is light down the street. I decided to go out to look at the neighbor's house (I can't see it from the windows), I go out into the vestibule, and everything is on fire! I yell, my husband galloped up and put out a fire extinguisher (fortunately we have it). Out of the blue, the electricity meter caught fire.
The wires are not ancient, the meter is too, never knocked out, nothing melted, did not smell. Since it was already late in the day, the TV was on, well, maybe a couple of bulbs. Well it was in the evening and my husband was at home. If during the day when there was no one, then the house would have burned down, if I were alone, then I would be electrocuted. I would go there to extinguish. In general, it cost a little blood: instead of a lump of black plastic counter, the inner lining of the vestibule burned out and my jacket, in which I walked around the yard, was discarded. Her husband grabbed her from the hanger. covered the counter and jerked to disconnect it from the current.
Then the air was thrown from the neighbors, our gas boiler depends on electricity and the wires and the meter were changed. The panels were simply thrown out so as not to stink, and in the summer everything was replaced and repaired. When, after the holidays, the counter melted into the power grid was carried, she asked - what was the reason? They came, acted, took pictures. I was told that no one can say for sure, but in general over 90% fires from electricity!

you will not be saved.

yes ... uzhzh .... mmm, so as not to repeat.

[contact science]

I was told that no one can say for sure, but in general over 90% of fires are from electricity!

Very roughly speaking: an electrician is contact science... Of course, I do not know what exactly you had there, but I can assume that there was simply a poor connection of the wires to the meter - the connection began to heat up, which led to the scenario you indicated. Either the contact point was not provided with gas permeability, or the oxidized conductors were not cleaned properly, or they were not tightened sufficiently.

Generally speaking, such things are found with a thermal imager - if there are points in the shield that are unusually heated, then there is poor contact and it needs to be serviced. Also, as an example, I have a temperature sensor in the power terminal block in my Daikin Urura-Sarara air conditioner in order to exclude this.

But in 10 years, these contacts should have somehow shown themselves before they caught fire?

But in 10 years, these contacts should have somehow shown themselves before they caught fire?

Yes, I wrote to you: heating and most likely you already had it for some time.

As I understand it, the process is an avalanche: slightly poor contact causes heating, which leads to corrosion and deformation of the contacts, which in turn leads to even worse contact - even more heating.

This is, of course, provided that there is no obvious nonsense, like a direct connection of copper and aluminum wires, which is guaranteed to lead to nothing good.

Generally speaking, all possible electrical connections are usually divided into serviced and unattended. Maintenance-free, such as soldering, welding and crimping, if initially made correctly, they do not require constant supervision. And serviced, such as clamping a wire with a screw, requires occasional inspection. The screw clamp must be tightened with a torque screwdriver / wrench. If an increase in the contact temperature was detected, then the contacts must be cleaned of oxides, check the wire insulation and tighten "correctly". Again, there could be just a design mistake, like using a smaller wire size than the actual load requires. Or incorrect ratings of circuit breakers, etc.

In general, you are right: unexpectedly, nothing usually happens. You just need to keep track of what and how.

All wires are copper and with a large margin. We have everything separately there: kitchen + entrance hall, bath + boiler room, living rooms. The bath is in itself. It is simply impossible not to follow, because every month we open and rewrite the testimony ourselves, and the inspectors go constantly. Moreover, the meter is located in a small room, the smell of the wiring cannot be overlooked, especially with a husband's nose. Our neighbors begin to burn leaves half a kilometer away in the fall, so he smells it with closed doors and windows. This amazed me - nothing foreshadowed.

such things are found with a thermal imager - if there are points in the shield that are unusually heated, then there is poor contact and it needs to be serviced.

but this is interesting
Most of us live in Soviet-built houses and apartments, and electrical wires and shields are also designed for that early power. Now all the technology has become so powerful, ugly

Moreover, it is full of self-construction, in general, there is no obligatory monitoring of the correctness of the wiring for a long time

I have an eternal trouble with these thermopots)) already the second one broke down, I decided it means not destiny)))

Most of us live in Soviet-built houses and apartments, and electrical wires and shields are also designed for that early power.

Here everyone is "spinning" as they can))

For example, I now live in an apartment building built in the seventies, the wiring was originally all aluminum. Then, at some point, the connection of the meters to the bus in the dashboard was changed to copper (the common riser was left with aluminum - but it seems to be good enough, four wires of 16 squares each, clamped on steel pads, to which the wires that go to counters). At some point, my wife went to look at the meter readings, opened the apartment-wide dashboard and my behest - connecting a copper wire to the bus glows bright yellow-red. At that moment, the 2.5 kW supply air heater was working, the oven, the washer, etc. (the weekend was all-inclusive - the dishwasher, the washer and the oven))) and the wire turned out to be ours. The light was straight bright and bright and turned out to be from the wire of our apartment.

They called an electrician, he just tried to pull up the wire without turning off the electricity - nothing changed.When I switched on a large load again (hob 7 kW, air heater 2.5 kW), the contact point again began to burn with a bright fire. The electrician said that on weekends he did not want to disconnect the voltage throughout the riser, but would come on a working day and do everything - he simply stripped the steel and copper wire and tightened it normally - and everything was fine.
In general, all serviced connections should be monitored.

Moreover, it is full of self-construction, in general, there is no obligatory monitoring of the correctness of the wiring for a long time

Generally speaking, electricians are obliged to check the resistance of the neutral wire after some time - because if zero burns out (or is simply turned off), then the "lucky" in the socket may instead of the standard 230V, very funny 400V - and if there are no special devices , then a lot of things will burn. At least I was told that people went to Moscow and actually measured this matter. Although how much this is true now and how often it happened, I do not know.

Well, I'm the fourth in 15 years, so what now? The very first one bought for 3 kopecks in China worked the longest. Then there was dear Panasonic, so when he broke down, I almost danced a lezginka for joy. He had a non-disconnectable function of re-boiling and he boiled so that the steam just poured down. That is, it was impossible to put it under the furniture. I had to put it on the dining table, where he interfered with everyone, in short a nightmare. then there was the simplest Supra, I honestly worked for 3 years. Now Scarlett has been working for the third year.
You just don't need to treat such things as if they were bought for centuries. We worked out the warranty period, and then how it goes.
I can’t imagine my life without a thermopot, I’m so used and comfortable.

[NiLarna]

He had a non-disconnectable function of re-boiling and he boiled so that the steam simply poured out.

Yes, I am also not very happy with this function in my ponason, given that I pour bottled water into it and I see no point in boiling it. Once I even got burned well by the steam.

One thing pleases that in this thread, dear NiLarna suggestedthat if the Panasonic's water temperature differs less than 10 ° C from the set one (downward), then using the timer button (by cyclically pressing, switch to the timer mode and back) it can be "restarted" and the Panasonic will stop boiling water.
That is, if I remember that I am doing something like this:

• I added water to the thermopot and it is usually set at 90 ° C;
• I'm waiting for it to show 85 ° C;
• I press the timer button several times to enter and exit the timer mode;
• And I have a tepomot in the mode of maintaining the temperature, and further does not boil water.

[the whole]

I'm very interested. Puzzled by the purchase of a thermopot. Since no one has visited the topic for a long time, I want to ask for fresh impressions from the owners.
Please advise which one is better and more reliable at the present time.
Lights are often off. we have, so I need a hand pump.
I take not for the kitchen, but for my FAVORITE one into the room on the second floor, running down to the kitchen in the middle of the night can be hard, no longer a lousy. I want hot tea around the clock. There was a Cooler, I gave it to the children. It became uncomfortable to live ...
The husband says: "Be modern - buy yourself a Thermopot!"
Help with advice pliz ...
What's popular now. I trust only OUR responses. With HP.
Because on the Internet has not yet rummaged.



Yes!))
And I'll make a reservation right away the whole I read this topic.
But the last ... from the age of 18 ...
Maybe there are new opinions?

[mamusi]

mamusi, found my message when I bought my Panasonic, almost 5 years have passed! How time flies. It works great so far, t-t-t. So my opinion is to take a closer look at Panasonic, only with fanfare.
Thermopot # 298

[Yulia]

Yulia, thank you dear!
And I really thought no one would answer me!
I read on Ozone!
I choose. Thinking. I'd like to.



julia_bb, looked yours.
There are others on Ozone. How many temperature conditions are there?

take a closer look at Panasonic, only with fanfare

So I'm thinking about Panasiki! My favorite company !!!

Julia, this one?
Thermopot Panasonic NC-DG3000WTS
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[mamusi]

mamusi, Rita, I have 4 liters, and there is no manual pump.I chose this one, since a lot of people come to the dacha, I constantly add water in the evening.
You are better off as you showed on the Ozone link, and there is a manual pump.
The temperature regimes on mine are almost the same, only not 70, but 60 degrees is the lowest
We are constantly at 90.

[mamusi]

Thermopot Panasonic NC-DG3000WTS
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mamusi, Rita, I have one. Two years already. I am very satisfied.
I chose then for a long time, read reviews, reviews. I took it in a company store (I caught a discount for a long time) - there it has a 3-year warranty.

You better like this

Yes, Yul, I even have a lot of 4 liters. 3L will go.

I am very satisfied.

Thank you, Lena.
I'm going morally. Really want to.

company store (I caught a discount for a long time) - there it has a 3-year warranty.

Aha! And how to catch this shop ...
Ahh, got it ...
It's Orson !!!
Okay, let's read it too!

Rita, I'll try to find now where I took it.

The WB has a discount on it now (7273 rubles). True, I never took equipment there ...

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[Elena17]

I don't understand, Lena ...
Do you have Panas or Orson ???
Clicked the link ... writes Error! and opens ... Orson
So which brand store?




Opened WB !!!)))
Elena17, I understood everything, Lenochka!
Already thrown into the basket. Thank you dear!

[mamusi]

mamusi, I have a Toshiba PLK-45SDTR. Serves faithfully. No top pump. We really like it.
There is also a smaller volume
Toshiba PLK-30VETR (W) - thermopot, volume 3 l.

[OlgaGera]

No top pump. We really like it.

OlgaGera, then, without light, you can't pour water? Or did I misunderstand the device?

[mamusi]

mamusi, Rita, I took my Panasonic thermopot in this store:

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But it's expensive there now ...

My tab was always open. I monitored and waited every day.

At WB, the price is attractive, of course. Only he can ask in the topic about WB - how to buy equipment there ??
Fine ? The girls will tell you. I have never taken equipment to WB.

doesn’t mean you cannot pour water without light?

Rita, if you don't have a pump, then you can't pour water without light. That's why I chose this particular Panasik model - with fanfare.
Although there are usually no problems with light, but ... sometimes it happens.

I put it in the basket, but ...
Nobody CANCELED the toad! ...
And that's what I think - you are all writing about the Kitchen, about the water for the whole FAMILY, about the dacha ...
And then such a price is justified!
(I love Panasonic)
But! .. in my case - personally to me alone - right in the bedroom ... literally drink tea late at night, when I sat up with a book ... or early in the morning when I woke up ...
Wouldn't it be cheaper ... this option ... huh?

Thermopot Kitfort, KT-2504, silver, black
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They write for 1 mug heats. The reviews are good.
Kitforth. (I don't have anything from this company)))
Not such a Thermopot, but just a "personal" Thermopot?
Or shouldn't you want it?
I didn't find any bad reviews on Ozone, but you never know?

Although there are usually no problems with light, but ... sometimes it happens

My lights are often turned off. Private sector, suburb ...

may ask in the topic about WB - how to buy equipment there ??

I have already taken equipment to WB. And a vacuum cleaner, and a Cupcake, and a Blender-soup cooker, and a baby Blender for feeding a grandson.
Everything is fine. Lucky. I didn't have to return it yet.

[mamusi]

mamusi, I have a Toshiba PLK-45SDTR. Serves faithfully. No top pump. We really like it.
There is also a smaller volume
Toshiba PLK-30VETR (W) - thermopot, volume 3 l.

I looked at the picture, it is very similar to mine, I bought it in 2007, only the wire was changed, I would like a manual pump, but nothing is good without it.

doesn’t mean you cannot pour water without light?

Tyuyuyu, so why bother? I opened it and scooped it up))) I couldn't pour it with pomp. Not convenient ....




Before that, there were two thermopots with a pump. I wanted to. Extra stray in the wash lid

I couldn't pour it with pomp. Not convenient ....

In Panasonic, it is convenient to pour with a pump. The husband sometimes pours - he is interested

Tyuyuyu, so why bother? Opened and scooped up)))

That's our way!)

it is convenient to pour with a pump

Tolley my hands are crooked, roofing felts something else, but ... as soon as I started to pour water with a pump, it twisted and jammed, it did not close. I had to disassemble the cover. A couple of times my thermal sweat fell, also because of the pump.
I decided to take the third thermopot without a pump, with a sinister ...

Toshiba PLK-45SDTR

There is no such thing on Ozone.



I read further about Kitfort (he seems to be a direct Ozone brand?) And see that not everything is so smooth.
There are no those who have been using it for a long time.And so "yesterday" I bought and "satisfied" very ...
But...
I read, read further, at first there were a lot of praises, but later people write that the button began to jam: after 2 months it broke, after 4 months it broke ...

A couple of times my thermal sweat fell, also because of the pump.

This is bad for me, I have both hands objectively * left *

I have both hands objectively * left *

then the pump is not the main thing




If I bought today, I would take this
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And the fact that the volume is large, so you can fill in half.

[Lelka]

would take this

Lelka, yes, but I'm 5 l - WHERE?

[mamusi]

mamusidrinking. Pour in less. And it is convenient to cook pasta. There is always hot water. Once and cook)))



I fill in a full thermopot three times a day. I don't know where it goes))))

[mamusi]

mamusi, listen, maybe you have a thermos - to look after the jug, 1.5-2 liters? Only good to keep it warm for a long time.
Like this, this is me for an example
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[mamusi]

mamusi, after 2 failures with thermopots, for the fourth year now I am not overjoyed with this thermos kettle

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I can't figure out how to make an active link

Almost all metal (I do not like heating plastic appliances), compact compared to thermopots - 1.5 liters, heats up quickly - 1800 W, keeps the temperature excellent (there is no automatic heating device) - even in winter in a cool kitchen by the morning of 70 C.
The firm is well-known, I trust.
On Ozone now not, but m. B. if you activate "Learn about admission ..."
Or look elsewhere, the firm is still

[julia_bb]

julia_bb, Julia, I now have Thermos. Big good.
I got confused with him.
Here, here, then pour I forget the water from the kitchen, you have to carry it. In short, I am considering Panasonic NCEG300WTS.
Someone has this ... I saw



Everyone, my dears!
All questions are removed, because we have already paid for the Order.
The husband sat down at the computer and immediately "chose" and "designed" ....
While I was texting ...
So we'll pick up Panasik tomorrow.
Tomorrow I'll tell you everything.

I now have Thermos. Big good.
I got confused with him.
Here, here, then pour forget the water

Clear. I agree, yes, the process must be constantly monitored.

All questions are removed, because we have already paid for the Order.
The husband sat down at the computer and immediately "chose" and "designed".

Well done! That's right, you won't regret it!

Good evening, my dears. Thanks everyone.
Here's my handsome. Standing on the nightstand ...


I’ve already boiled some water. It remains to drain and fill a new one! And you can get high!)

[mamusi]

mamusi, Rita, congratulations on your purchase !!! Let it serve for a long, long time!

I've already boiled some water

Oh, what a pretty girl))) Congratulations!

[mamusi]

mamusiwhat cool, congratulations! Let him serve faithfully!
And the delivery is just super prompt)))

delivery is just super prompt))

Yulechka, early in the morning they called from the Search store and said that we could pick up our goods!)))
They are closed, but there is a sign: CALL ...
The manager came out, took us inside an empty store and ... brought out our Thermopot!
Fantasy!!!

Panasonic is, of course, a thing. Probably, if my thermopot breaks, Panas will be next. But for now, Binaton suits me. He has been plowing for four years (the first is Mystery, he lived only 1.5 years). They took it with fanfare, it is convenient to put it on a festive tea table and do not pull wires. The mother-in-law also took Binaton. Before that, there was Mystery too, broke down.

Who uses Ourson? Tell us. Which flask, which pump.
Burnt out yesterday my savior