Piano
well, then it's clear ... there are recipes for pseudo-puff pastry - such where butter is chopped with flour, then water and salt are added and they also roll without fear of breaking the layers ... can you try this ?? and I'm more in the old fashioned way - napoleon on mineral water and butter by hand ...
shade
Peace be with you bakers!

Piano--

hands then they are of course hands

but why did we poke the kitchens with all these devices - there is nowhere to turn
Piano
probably because the very fact of owning a certain device is important (for me), and the buzz from the work done is still in second place ... well, like collectors ...
P. Pendurina
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Girls and boys, hello everyone! Found a noodle cutter Marcato Ampia 180 mm in the city. There is a desire to purchase. Price $ 100 e. The seller assures that this is not China. It was embarrassing that in his photo there was a handle for which to hold with a black hand. And on the official website, the handle is steel. Please tell the owners of this model in the original, what kind of handle should it actually be?
On the original, she is like this

Here is a photo of the seller, a fake or is it the original? And the inscription on the noodle cutter is different from the original. By the way, pay attention to the photo on the box, in the picture the model is different from it. So I think is it worth taking? 🔗
You can ask here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=223255.0
I don’t have such a device, but I’m looking closely at it, and, frankly, the difference in what is painted on the box would alert me very much.
Malva
Quote: Sprig @

Girls and boys, hello everyone! Found a noodle cutter Marcato Ampia 180 mm in the city. There is a desire to purchase. Price $ 100 e. The seller assures that this is not China. It was embarrassing that in his photo there was a handle for which to hold with a black hand. And on the official website, the handle is steel. Please tell the owners of this model in the original, what kind of handle should it actually be?
On the original, she is like this Homemade noodles, ravioli and everything for making them

I myself order atlases in Italy. The expensive satin model with a motor also comes with a pen with black plastic. Ampia never ordered, but it looks like it's not a fake: the box is branded, the logo, the location of the holes and their shape (for the motor) are the same as on the atlases. The difference in the handle may be due to the fact that they have luxury models that can come with all sorts of bells and whistles. Here they are the photo on the box and put it up. Their inscriptions changed, the logo became more convex. Perhaps this noodle cutter is from old stocks.
Nathalte
Quote: Oca

Machine for slicing noodles. TH-150F
Price 481 rubles. Do we need this?
And where is that for such a price?
Sprig @
Thanks for answers!

Mavka, please tell me a machine with a motor, how practical is it? How long will the motor last? Have you encountered problems that break down quickly? And is it possible if the motor suddenly breaks down to remove it and turn it manually? I understand that the motor is removable, and the handle and the part to screw to the table are included?
Malva
Quote: Sprig @

Thanks for answers!

Mavka, please tell me and how practical is a machine with a motor? How long will the motor last? Have you encountered problems that break down quickly? And is it possible if the motor suddenly breaks down to remove it and turn it manually? I understand that the motor is removable, and the handle and the part to screw to the table are included?

Atlas with a motor is a very convenient option. You have both hands free, the dough is fed evenly, not in jerks. The process of rolling out the dough takes place faster and without physical. costs.In principle, it is too early to ask a question about breakdowns, since girls have atlases with a motor for no more than six months. And I really hope that they will not face this problem. Of course, voltage drops and any other influences will affect work, like any other technique, that is, you need to cherish)
Handle and clamp are included.
Sprig @
Quote: Mavka

Atlas with a motor is a very convenient option.
Thank you very much! Is the 180 electric? I have a crush on her. And what option would you recommend, Ampia or Atlas? In our city, both options are sold. But there is no 180 electric.
Malva
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Thank you very much! Is the 180 electric? I just fell for her

Ampia and Atlas are produced at the same factory, so the difference is not fundamental. Atlas is just a car. It's like comparing a Mercedes and an Audi - both German women, both bomb cars))
You can buy an atlas 180 and buy a motor. We add the kitchen constructor for adult aunts and we get an atlas 180 with a motor))
shade
Peace be with you bakers!

Mavka--

here's another - fooled with the motor
screwdriver to help you \ the cheapest \
Malva
Quote: shade

Peace be with you bakers!

Mavka--

here's another - fooled with the motor
screwdriver to help you \ the cheapest \

This will already be a kitchen constructor for boys))
Nathalte
Quote: shade

Peace be with you bakers!

Mavka--

here's another - fooled with the motor
screwdriver to help you \ the cheapest \
But from this place in more detail, please.
shade
Peace be with you bakers!

Nathalte--

motor to the typewriter well so on

🔗

screwdriver three times cheaper

then it's on the battery - the wires don't interfere

well, and then like this
we take a man with hands \ which grow from where \ and say what we want

well, if it's really serious
an ordinary machine has a handle - of course there is
we look at the handle and select exactly the same direct current \ you can, of course, cut the handle, but this is the edge \ or if you choose not from something, you can go to the nearest housing department and you will make any locksmith for 100 rubles in 10 minutes
I am not unfounded all this I helped my sister-in-law so much
when we walked from Zhek with our piece of iron we looked into the household and bought a Chinese shura for 1200 \ two speeds and reverse \

further - at home, they screwed the machine with a clamp to the table \ in the kit which \ - inserted a pin and
a shura was attached at the level \ she found some kind of plastic box that ideally fit in height \ well, in the printsyp and that's it
they made holes in the box and pulled the shura in two strips, pressed the trigger and the process began
BUT there are two points to consider
1-box \ well, or what you attach the shura to, you also need to attach it to the table otherwise it dances
2-shurik \ well, in any case, from the one we bought \ no stopper - I mean, you press the button, he turns it, let it go - stopped, but we will solve this issue too - in my case, the usual one helped out
rubber band \ such as cashiers pull wads of money \
in general, for all body movements - together with the trip to the locksmiths, it took me 3 hours
of course, everything turned out a little clumsy because I did not prepare for this action
we came to visit and started talking about the machine \ she saw me well and also bought \ like it wouldn’t be a bad motor, but I’ll take it and blurt out the motor is expensive for you and you don’t use the noodle cutter so often, take it and attach some crap and business then

and she, in response, since you are so smart, so help a single woman
in short, I encouraged and harnessed
Well, something like this
Sprig @
Mavka Thanks again! Unfortunately, only Atlas 15 with a motor is sold in the store. I thought a 150 to 180 motor would work? Even in the store this beauty is sold, I fell in love. But still, 180 is more captivating in size. If 200, then I definitely chose it. I have a Tupper dumpling machine, she just needs such layers.
Homemade noodles, ravioli and everything for making them
Oca
Quote: Nathalte

And where is that for such a price?
Above gave a link to ozone, right under these words. Oops ... already 749 rubles is a Noodle slicer. TH-150F https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/s-image/2892/context/detail/id/22440504/
I had time aaAAA at the old price passed.
Quote: Oca

Homemade noodles, ravioli and everything for making them Homemade noodles, ravioli and everything for making them
Homemade noodles, ravioli and everything for making them Homemade noodles, ravioli and everything for making them
Now, now I have this)) I just brought home
Oca
Everything is fine, only now I saw a little rust at the bottom in the hole where the handle is inserted. The rest is a high-quality Chinese clone. Went to read the topic about the dough
Sens
Quote: Oca

Everything is fine, only now I saw a little rust at the bottom in the hole where the handle is inserted. The rest is a high-quality Chinese clone. Went to read the topic about the dough
Julia V

Quote: shade

Peace be with you bakers!

Nathalte--

motor to the typewriter well so on

🔗

screwdriver three times cheaper

then it's on the battery - the wires don't interfere

well, and then like this
we take a man with hands \ which grow from where \ and say what we want

well, if it's really serious
an ordinary machine has a handle - of course there is
we look at the handle and select exactly the same direct current \ you can, of course, cut the handle, but this is the edge \ or if you choose not from something, you can go to the nearest housing department and you will make any locksmith for 100 rubles in 10 minutes
I am not unfounded all this I helped my sister-in-law so much
when we walked from Zhek with our piece of iron we looked into the household and bought a Chinese shura for 1200 \ two speeds and reverse \

further - at home, they screwed the machine with a clamp to the table \ in the kit which \ - inserted a pin and
a shura was attached at the level \ she found some kind of plastic box that ideally fit in height \ well, in the printsyp and that's it
they made holes in the box and pulled the shura in two strips, pressed the trigger and the process began
BUT there are two points to consider
1-box \ well, or what you attach the shura to, you also need to attach it to the table otherwise it dances
2-shurik \ well, in any case, from the one we bought \ no stopper - I mean, you press the button, he turns it, let it go - stopped, but we will solve this issue too - in my case, the usual one helped out
rubber band \ such as cashiers pull wads of money \
in general, for all body movements - together with the trip to the locksmiths, it took me 3 hours
of course, everything turned out a little clumsy because I did not prepare for this action
we came to visit and started talking about the machine \ she saw me well and also bought \ like it wouldn’t be a bad motor, but I’ll take it and blurt out the motor is expensive for you and you don’t use the noodle cutter so often, take it and attach some crap and business then

and she, in response, since you are so smart, so help a single woman
in short, I encouraged and harnessed
Well, something like this


puzzled her husband, he just caught fire with this idea
shade
Peace be with you bakers!

Julia V--

if you don’t do everything like I’m in a hurry and think it over first, it will turn out super

Sprig @
Hello everyone! I bought the Marcato noodle cutter today. When she settled and the seller left, she decided to carry out an execution with paper. She cuts, but for some reason, all the paper is wound into the recesses on the rollers.

From what I read from this topic, I make the dough like this: 3 eggs, 300 grams of flour. Do you need water and salt? Stir and lie under a bowl for 20 minutes. Then I clean it with a small piece, throw it away. From the rest of the amount I tear off a piece a little more than an apricot, roll it through the widest distance of the rollers, fold it in an envelope. And so several times until I feel that the dough is ready for rolling. Then I slightly dry the rolled juices and cut the noodles. Is that correct?
Oca
Quote: Sprig @

I also imagined what the seller's eyes were when I decided to cut paper with him like that
so this is 2 in 1: noodle cutter and paper shredder! I came across an advertising booklet on dense paper, and shoved it, here:
Homemade noodles, ravioli and everything for making them
Sprig @
Quote: Oca

I came across an advertising booklet on dense paper, and shoved it, here:
Thank you very much for your reply! Should the paper be heavy? I stuck in the printer paper. And then I tried a notebook sheet. Both sheets are cut, but they do not come out from below, but are wound into the holes of the rollers. I understand that it should fall down and not wind up? Maybe what I'm doing wrong?

I kneaded the dough, I will try to noodle. Cheto I have a suspicion that today I will have to cut the noodles with my hands
Sprig @
Girls, and also noticed that my rollers for cutting noodles move slightly to the right - to the left. This is normal?
Sprig @
Nobody answers. And I'm upset. When cutting, noodles do not go down, but are wound on cutting rollers in grooves. Everything is exactly the same as with paper. I tried it in different ways, and dried it, and dusted it with flour, and sprinkled it on the rollers, it doesn't go down, it twists into the grooves of the roller and that's it. I can't even hook her I just want to cry
kirch
So you have some kind of marriage. It should not be. When I tried on paper, it was cut right away without reeling in anything. I am so sorry
Mar_k
Zhanara, can I return it back? Maybe something from the bottom prevents her from going out, the holes are shifted so that she lights up a cigarette?
sima12
Sprig @, something really does not work out for you. In fact, it cuts the paper at a time, nothing should be wound and the dough too. How then to make noodles? There are no special secrets here, you do everything like everyone else. Maybe it's not too late to change. Of course it is sad.
sima12
Quote: Sprig @

Girls, and also noticed that my rollers for cutting noodles move slightly to the right - to the left. This is normal?

Now I went to check my typewriter - everything is deaf, nothing walks
Sprig @
Quote: sima12

Now I went to check my typewriter - everything is deaf, nothing walks
Maybe because of this the noodles do not fall down? And when the dough itself is rolled out, more precisely, do you need to sprinkle it with flour before cutting? I dried it and tasted it. But I didn't pour flour on myself. For some reason, I think this will not help. Once the paper is wound, and the last one was cutting the glossy magazine cover, which was also wound. Everything is cut perfectly, but these cut noodles do not go down, but are spread on the grooves of the rollers.
Kokoschka
Quote: kirch

So you have some kind of marriage. It should not be. When I tried on paper, it was cut right away without reeling in anything. I am so sorry

Zhanara, I immediately cut an A4 sheet, I agree that most likely something is wrong, please clarify ... not much time has passed yet. In Russia, you can return the goods for 2 weeks.
Sprig @
Quote: kokoshka

In Russia, you can return the goods for 2 weeks.
Thank you all for your sympathy and advice. I live in Kazakhstan. I'll try to talk tomorrow to change. That's not lucky
Kokoschka
Good luck to Zhanara then you will accomplish your goal!
Sprig @
Everything, in general, I tried again. I watched the video on YouTube. The noodles immediately fall down when sliced. I did everything as they showed there. Rolled first on "0" several times, then the envelope. Gradually reduced the size of the rollers. Done up to size 8. Everything is rolling out incomparably. Before cutting, I tried to make it very and shorter and more authentic. And sprinkled with flour and dried. The cut noodles are wound into the grooves in the roller along the entire length of the juicy and that's it. Needless to say, what a disorder. The noodle cutter is completely unusable. As just rolling out the dough for that kind of money, I don't need it.
Mar_k
Zhanara, I sympathize with you! I hope all the legal troubles will be settled!
Sprig @
Good evening! Thank you very much girls all for your advice and understanding. Today I phoned the seller, he arrived, I handed him the dough, I said this is how you want to taste it, add flour, dry it, cut it at least shortly, at least long. He rolled the juices himself, then tried to cut, all the noodles were wound on rollers and on wide and fine cut. Then I offered the paper, the result is the same. Then he brought another noodle cutter, tried it with paper, everything is cut wonderfully, the paper goes down, nothing is wound.

But while I was still left without a noodle cutter, they returned my money. Tomorrow the seller promised to bring me another noodle cutter from the warehouse.

At least I'm glad that I didn't look like a complete fool, and the noodle cutter is really defective. And the problem is most likely what I wrote above, the rollers for cutting noodles give a slight backlash to the right - to the left. They are not fixed and, when cutting, move not only down, but also to the sides. And the noodles are reeling. That's how unlucky I was.
marlanca
Sprig @
Zhanik is great, I'm glad everything worked out ..., we'll wait for a new one, then you will tell ..
sima12
Sprig @, it is very good that the seller returned the money to you and took the marriage, even though this was lucky
We are waiting with you for a brand new car
Oca
And I have something not very good with the dough sheeter until I have adapted. I made dough for dumplings in vinegar, stuffed it in small pieces between rollers at the greatest thickness, but it comes out "bumpy" and a little torn. I roll it two or three times - it becomes smoother ... It doesn't stick anywhere. I made some dumplings, but I suffered more. In general, you need a recipe and rolling technology.
Ikra
Osik, maybe the dough is not "rested enough"? Still, I noticed that dough for noodles and dumplings, different in composition, requires different aging times. And yet such a strange feature was noticed .. Somehow at the master class there was left dough from the sculpting of ravioli, and they decided to cut it into noodles so that the good would not be lost. So, these same pieces that had already been rolled out once, cobbled together in one lump, began to roll out in such a flaw that ... Our teacher crumpled it again into a ball, and left it to lie down. After about 10 minutes everything rolled out wonderfully! Smooth, smooth, and beautiful. Maybe it was necessary not to force the events, not to suffer, but to postpone the modeling for 20 minutes, so that the dough "agreed" with itself?

And here's what I dashed off. Filo type I was once told that filo cannot be created at home. It somehow hurt me. And then my husband temporarily can't eat yolks, and I have a filling for pies. Made noodle dough, simplest, flour + water (2: 1) and a spoonful of olive oil with a pinch of salt. She rolled almost weightless layers on her noodle on the thinnest hole, stretched them a little with her hands, greased them generously with olive oil and wrapped the filling.
Not filo, of course, but very close. I think it will be good for a strudel too.

Homemade noodles, ravioli and everything for making them
Olya_
Ira, what a beauty. Right at night I wanted to steal a couple. And what is the filling?
Mar_k
Well, it looks very appetizing! I would not refuse this, even at night !!!
Oca
Quote: Ikra

Osik, maybe the dough is not "rested" enough?
Lied for at least 40 minutes after mixing in the HP. He rolls with his hands and a rolling pin, it’s smooth, but it breaks with rollers: they lick the layers of dough from the sides, pull it tightly and it starts to burst. I'll try another dough, for example, I’ll roll out cakes for Napoleon.
PySy The first thought at the sight of the photo: stuffed cabbage! It turned out beautifully!
Ikra
The filling is boiled salmon with feta cheese. It's like "cigars in Greek".
Aina
Quote: Ikra

The filling is boiled salmon with feta cheese. It's like "cigars in Greek".
Did you bake them in the oven? Very nice!
Ikra
In the oven, about 200 degrees (I do not have a thermometer, only risks indicating an approximate value). Before baking, greased with olive oil on top. Next time I'll try with steam, otherwise it turned out a little dry, since the filling is not juicy. If you put apples, I think it will be fine without steam, its juiciness will help.
Sprig @
Girls, I'm with a new noodle cutter! As soon as they brought it, I checked it with paper, everything is ok! I haven't made noodles yet, but I used the rest of the dough from the refrigerator to clean the rollers. Thanks to everyone who helped with advice!

Ikra Your filos look very appetizing, photos like from an advertising magazine about food
Sprig @
Oh, glitch
Mar_k
Twig, I congratulate you!
Olya_
Twig, I also congratulate you on a favorable outcome. When you change any product, oh, how many nerves you spend, it's familiar.

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