Choosing a contact grill

but also a minus, since you cannot fry an omelet.

significant minus
for me a minus - there is no position without contact, but this is only in optigrils, but for an omelet there is a special form, at least bake there.

[Irlarsen]

IrlarsenIrina, how many plates does your device have, 2 (one flat and one ribbed) or 4? In all the photos that I saw - 2.
I wondered if I should buy Breville from the USA and remake it for our 220 (I practically found instructions on how to do this ...)).

[LudMila]

LudMila, Ludmila, I looked at the prices ... Well, not much difference in price, it seems, not taking into account delivery.

I threw links under the spoiler, just in case. In English, the plug will be different, but the voltage is the same as in the Russian Federation, so nothing will need to be fundamentally changed, except for the plug.

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At the same time, see the reviews. Good ratings, of course. We can say excellent.

Then it's better to Bork (ours) adapted to our Russian 220 than such dances with tambourines. There was a sad experience with the technique from Amazon, we also wanted to remake it for our socket.



The price of Bork, of course, is biting, but nothing can stop us ...

[Irlarsen]

Irlarsen, Ira, well, you write in vain that Delonga's panels stick and wipe! This is not true information! I already wrote more than once above - in May there will be 2 years of daily use. No scuffing and no sticking! The slope of the panels is easy to eat, the fat runs off well and at the same time, eggs are easily fried on flat panels - just a little bit of the protein runs away at the edge of the panel. We beat eggs on a hot grill - we don't have time to run far. The total weight of the grill is 12 kg, the panels are heavy, now weighed the flat one - 1250 g. Not in the dishwasher - everything can be easily washed with a sponge under running water. Maybe sticks on someone who washes in the dishwasher? As for the steak, they fried more than once, the son is a fan of cooking good meat)). Yes, and Olya fried, a couple of pages ago there are excellent pictures! So - steaks are no worse than good restaurant ones! I did not compare with Bork in the store, but they look very similar to the videos in YouTube. In general, IMHO, we can write objectively only about the technique that we used ourselves! Therefore, I consider Ira's review both untrue and incorrect!

Here I will be M-Video, I will weigh the panels at BORKA, but my eye is a diamond.
Yesterday my son came, fried steaks, maximum four minutes to a little more, ppm medium. For 10 minutes, they fried zucchini, pumpkin in two passes (by the way, even pumpkin turns out well, only you should hold it a little longer), peppers and mushrooms. The second call boiled potatoes in a couple of minutes. Today I warmed up the pizza, bottom - 200 C, top - 230. I put it in a cold grill, when I squeaked about the temperature readiness, the bottom was already a little fried with stripes (since I was too lazy to change the panel), and the top warmed up almost to the boil of cheese. Everything suits, but we love steaks and do not live without them.
Anything that can hang over the buffers is very important to me. A good device for good money.
As much as I do not like to wash off fat, here, without even touching, everything is washed off in a minute. I put it with an emphasis on the wall in the sink, lather with a brush and rinse. I do not advise anyone to wash items with a non-stick coating in a p / m. Just remember what happens to some silicone in a p / m. It is also possible that it depends on the means chosen, there is more aggression, there is less.
I have no doubt that Bork fries well, as it looks like a solid apparatus and beautiful.
If you have extra funds, why not buy and be happy!
At the same time, tell us here.

I don't have Delongi, before him there was an optitma Tefalevsky grill, I saw delongi in the store and at my friends in Russia.I already wanted to buy and carry with me, but then changed my mind. But I have NOT seen my Sage before the purchase. Maybe I was totally wrong? I was told about Breville by my American relatives, who do not even want to compare it with anything, for them it is the best, they are obsessed with steaks, like all Americans. But they don't send it here from America, but they sent me an exact copy of Sage from England. Recently I compared it in Moscow with your Bork, seemingly one to one. But to be honest, I didn’t go to the store again to compare with Delongy, there was a persistent feeling that the Sage panels are much heavier than Delongy's. Plus a built-in thermometer that prevents the meat from overcooking. And let's just weigh and compare the panels. Maybe I was still wrong and the panels are the same in weight. That is, you need the size of the panels and the weight

What is a built-in thermometer? How in Optigril? Or is it determined by the temperature of the meat inside the piece?
In America, they like to fry steaks and burgers in nature more, in the parks there are
equipped places, there they hold all sorts of events from children's birthdays to weddings. We know firsthand.
Let's take pictures of meat and vegetables from your grill, maybe I'll stop looking at it and give Delonge to my son, and I'll plan for myself something like Bork.
Well, when choosing Bork or a western device without a guarantee, I would choose a western one.

What is a built-in thermometer? How in Optigril? Or is it determined by the temperature of the meat inside the piece?

Olya, this is a built-in temperature probe, now I will try to insert a photo of this grill. You can use the ikeevsky temperature probe, as it was written here in the topic.

[julia_bb]

julia_bb, I thought so, that is, this is not an argument in favor of buying at a high price. He is so cute! It's just not clear how such stripes are obtained on the ends of pieces of meat. Advertising photo, so I will forgive a real photo of meat from under this grill.

Yes, let's take pictures of the mask and vegetables from the miracle grill. I also want to see it, maybe I'll decide on it. But without a guarantee to take the device Just because it is from the west is bold, girls. Was not a very pleasant experience with Amazon.

The total weight of the grill is 12 kg, the panels are heavy, now weighed flat - 1250 g.

Very weighty
I also look towards Delongy, and without additional panels, I have different waffle irons, and two flat ones are not needed.

It's just not clear how such stripes are obtained on the ends of pieces of meat. Advertising photo, so I will forgive a real photo of meat from under this grill.

Apparently they already turned it over before, that is, they fry from each side

[Olihka]

Olihka, yes, I understand, but they have different standards, the filling is already slightly worse on our market. So all the sellers from there assure me. When I chose the air purifier myself, well, how they sucked me in with Bork for big money. I like it. beautiful, powerful. I started digging information - it turned out that the term of use is exactly one year ... That is, the company may stop producing parts for it in a year. Two multi have gone "on the cloud", while Shteba, Orsson are still plowing! And Landlife is already 17 years old, and works very often without problems. For seven years I plowed every day, then others appeared.



julia_bb, Yul, how can you grill the butt? Keep it in the canopy with tongs? With the top panel you cannot press such a piece, as it seems to me. There time goes on for minutes, even if such a somersault is done, then the piece itself will be overcooked.

[Rada-dms]

how can you grill the butt? Keep it in the canopy with tongs? With the top panel you cannot press such a piece, as it seems to me. There time goes on for minutes, even if such a somersault is done, then the piece itself will be overcooked.

Rada-dms, Olya, yes, I agree, it won't work. We fried it open for a photo and put it on the grill.

but how can you grill the butt? Keep it in the canopy with tongs?

Exactly

and the flat two are not needed.

ohh, so they are perfect for panini and for a quick steak! And then cut it into pita bread or the same panini with onion rings, with salad ... In the summer - the food of the Gods mmmmmmm. I want flat even more than grooved

[Svetlenki]

Svetlenki, apparently, here we sell thin steaks, so it never occurs to fry like that.Now I am on fire to buy beef tenderloin and fry it like that.
I also consider flat panels to be no less necessary.

[Svetlenki]

ohh, so they are perfect for panini and for a quick steak! And then cut it into pita bread or the same panini with onion rings, with salad ... In the summer - the food of the Gods mmmmmmm. I want flat even more than grooved

Svetlenki, Svetik, are you INTO? How about a quick steak? I didn't think about panini

How about a quick steak?

Yulchik, we are selling them already cut and packed. I found you an explanation in the picture from which part it is cut



Above the hind leg you see the inscription "THICK FLANK". Here from this part steaks 1 cm thick are cut.They are



Do not throw your slippers at me, but I believe that "working" muscles, if properly prepared, are very worthy and fragrant. Fillet tenderloin is definitely cool, it melts in your mouth, but there is not so much aroma there - a non-working muscle, like gritz

Now I am on fire to buy beef tenderloin and fry it like that.

No, Ol, you don't need her like that. An entrecote is better. But I think so theoretically. I would cut flat panels, to be honest ... And I would bring in the oven if it is straight 4-5 cm thick

Girls! I could be wrong, but Lenuska Tim has Bork. Maybe try her? I am sure that she used it up and down in due time ..

P. S. Personally, I don't need Bork, I have Delongy. Satisfied completely.

Fillet tenderloin is definitely cool, it melts in your mouth, but there is not so much aroma there - a non-working muscle, like gritz

I agree with you! I'd rather chew a delicious piece of meat than just meat, but soft.

we sell them already cut and packaged. I found you an explanation in the picture from which part it is cut

Light, thanks clearly. The picture is very descriptive
Virgo, tell me, is there a lot of smoke from the grill or only steam comes out when you fry the meat?

[julia_bb]

julia_bb, depending on what to fry! If fatty meat, then I turn on the hood, if vegetables and breasts, then I even forget to turn it on. It is the fat that burns.

[Rada-dms]

Rada-dms, beef, if you fry, for example, and grease it a little with olive oil? Then the smoke will go, it is clear, like them on my cast-iron grill ...

[julia_bb]

julia_bb, yeah! If not greasy, then yes. But there are such steaks with streaks of fat, so I don't grease them.

[LudMila]

LudMilaBetter Sage as you order from me. I found it in England, if you count it in rubles, then only for 26 thousand! Nothing needs to be redone, just buy an adapter to the outlet. Naturally, I didn’t even have a question of choosing between Delongy from Russia and Sage from England. The thermometer is very convenient. I was just amazed at the taste of w done pork. It can be fried for about 2 minutes, probably the taste is just awesome. I would never have dared to fry pork in a frying pan like this, I would have fried longer for sure. True, not all parts of pork are suitable for this, but I already know what to buy. Denmark is still a country of pork.
For the first six months, the panels could not be washed at all. I rarely took them off. I just dumped the leftovers into a container with a silicone spatula and wiped it with paper. It doesn't work that way now. The panels should be washed after every frying. We don't sell panels, for some reason they don't send them to me from England and America. We'll have Bork's news from Russia. So far I have 2 of them with which the grill was sold.

[Rada-dms]

It seems to me that on Delongy, a separate topic should be started, so that he can visually run in - look, draw conclusions.
Regarding all the comparisons: they poked me once, when she voiced "It's good that I took Delongy, not Tefal", they say it's impossible, I don't have Tefal to compare, although I didn't say that he is worse, just that Delongy is cool ...

But then Olya came, Rada-dms, and put everything on the shelves, the comparison is very good and constructive! Everything is painted down to the smallest detail, but still appear theoretical speculation about Delongy - where did it come from?

My grill is six months old, every day it works several times, loading meat for the whole family, immediately on the whole panel, I did not notice a decrease in temperature.With the same thickness of the pieces, the roasting is also the same, even closer to the edge. The plates are in their original form, nothing sticks, as I clean them - I've already posted the photo.

Mega heats up quickly, fries quickly, maybe Bork or its analog is better, but maybe not .... And the price category, you see, is not a plus or minus a couple of thousand.

LudMilaBetter Sage as you order from me. I found it in England, if you count in rubles, then only for 26 thousand! Nothing needs to be redone, just buy an adapter to the outlet. Naturally, I did not even have the question of choosing between Delongy from Russia and Sage from England. The thermometer is very convenient. I was just amazed at the taste of w done pork. It can be fried for about 2 minutes, probably the taste is just awesome. I would never have dared to fry pork in a frying pan like this, I would have fried it longer for sure. True, not all parts of pork are suitable for this, but I already know what to buy. Denmark is still a country of pork.
For the first six months, the panels could not be washed at all. I rarely took them off. I just dumped the leftovers into a container with a silicone spatula and wiped it off with paper. It doesn't work that way now. The panels must be washed after every frying. We don't sell panels, for some reason they don't send them to me from England and America. We'll have Bork's news from Russia. So far I have 2 of them with which the grill was sold.

Photo to the studio! There are so many who want to see amazing steaks!

Photo to the studio! There are so many who want to see amazing steaks!

I agree, and preferably with a cut more.

Yes, to buy a miracle grill from England, and then after half a year from Russia to carry replaceable panels from Bork for him ... does not sound very tempting. Then it’s better Delonghi and not bother.

Girls, I don’t know whether they have already written here or not ... Bork has built-in heating elements in the panels ...
I looked at it the other day in the store ...
And yes, there is a built-in temperature probe, you set a certain roast and when it reaches the temperature inside the meat, it turns off or rings ... I don't remember.
But 50 thousand !!!! ...

Bork's heating elements are built into the panels

Duc at DeLonga also, Light!

Aaaaa! ... I didn't know that!
And then it makes sense to overpay for Bork 30 thousand! Better to buy 2 Delongues! And another 10 thousand will remain!

Maybe it will turn out on the weekend to call in and look at Bork's panels again, I'll take a picture then. But last time I compared them with Delonge's panels, some fundamental difference did not strike my eye. I'll take my scales, they are up to a gram.
Of course, for the sake of fairness, I would like some user to show their creations from Bork so that people have a choice. The only question is the quality of the steaks, if they are not fundamentally different, why pay twice? Well, everyone is clear about Bork's pricing policy, the emphasis on external effects is obvious. I myself go and admire and don't buy, because I don't see the point.
I looked at a blender that I bought a few years ago for 11 thousand, now a new one with the same characteristics only with a gold border costs from 20,000 and above.
Normal blender, smoothies - ok. But Ninja surpassed both the package and the result.
But it stands beautifully in representative kitchens!

I would buy Bork even just for comparison, and I would give Delonge to my son, but I'm afraid of breakdowns. 14,000 and 50,000, if it breaks, will be 36,000 more offensive with the same frying result, as I understand it.

Well, everyone is clear about Bork's pricing policy, the emphasis on external effects is obvious.

But it stands beautifully in representative kitchens!

I also bought into the look of their ice cream maker and kitchen processor (I'm talking about English Sage, which is Russian Bork). I got rid of it and have no regrets. Now I don't even look towards this brand, since the price tag is clearly too high and did not meet my expectations, but I wait and demand a lot, for the money, in fact.

Girls, I've had a Bork grill for three years now. There are no problems with the panels. I use it often.

And yes, there is a built-in temperature probe, you set a certain roast and when it reaches the temperature inside the meat, it turns off or rings ... I don't remember.

He beeps. The probe is very convenient, especially when doing a lot of things. The result is always excellent.
Whether I am not campaigning for a purchase - no. Everyone should decide for himself what is his priority. I would buy myself - yes.
I can't compare with Delongy.
But about the ice cream maker, I agree with Sveta

And then it makes sense to overpay for Bork 30 thousand! Better to buy 2 Delongues! And another 10 thousand will remain!

And for the remaining 10 thousand, buy probes and stick them into the meat.

By the way, about temperature probes. I would like to recommend the British brand ETI. He is engaged only in the production of measuring equipment, mainly prof. I have both an oven and a termapen from them. Expensive, even very expensive, but of high quality. On the Amazons there are. Their official website is under the spoiler

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Girls, good morning. Yesterday I dropped into M. Video to look at the grill and that's it ... I came out as a happy owner of the grill, now I'm with Delongy. Already poyuzala it yesterday the vegetables turned out super, beef steaks like two rubber soles. Tell me the secret of making soft stitches, tell who how to prepare them from time to time. I set all 9 minutes at 230, maybe that's a lot. Next time I'll set the chicken fillet less time than in the recipes. There are 9 minutes. Chicken Fedya turned out in a tough crust. Not just a crust, tough ... I still can't fix the top panel in a hanging position. Something I am doing wrong. I need to get used to it, I liked the grill. Powerful, and Bork has a capacity of 2400, he probably fries food even more aggressively.



Soft steaks, not stitches

[Olga]

Yesterday I dropped in to M. Video to look at the grill and that's it ... I came out as a happy owner of the grill, now I'm with Delongy

Well done, this is according to our went to see, and bought it!
Olga, congratulations on the new thing! For steaks, 9 minutes is a lot, 4-5 minutes maximum!
I want it too, but a place! I do not know where to attach it permanently
I think the panel can be on the gas stove (that is, it is already raised above the level of the tabletop), and the grill on top, but I'm afraid it will be very high. In the description they write that the height is 18.5 cm.

[Olihka]

Olihka, Congratulations! Get used to it, so don't be discouraged!
Steaks maximum 4 minutes, 3.5 if thin, but so that there is no sole, the meat should be just for steaks. And to achieve medium rare roasting, when the juice is still oozing thoroughly from the middle. They also arrive later on "rest". I even fry in a pan for a maximum of 2 minutes on each side, and that's a lot for me.
The situation is fixed very simply, I cannot describe it now, it is not at hand. See instructions and toggle switches to the right of the grill. I myself did not look at the instructions, but I figured out how to do it.
Try to play with them there.
The chicken fillet was also overcooked, apparently. You need to marinate and fry, too, for a short time. In fact, as the stripes turned out to be obvious, so it is done. And do not be afraid to drop in at first. Then the smell of time will come with experience. All the same, the pieces are all different in thickness.
And it's good that the vegetables made me happy. Today with such pleasure I ate a sandwich with a baked cold turkey fillet for breakfast, and on top were pieces of red pepper, slightly marinated after grilling in my berry vinegar with aromatic salt and olive oil with thyme.




julia_bb, julia_bb, height 18.5 at the handle, the grill itself is 13 cm, I measured. So it will not be high, because when you open it, the lower panel will be normal, even lower, in front of your eyes, and this is the main thing, it seems to me.



We drove into Your House last night, and I dashed and looked at Bork again. What special beauty I didn't see there, just a normal grill. The panels seemed to me a little heavier, my husband said that they were the same in weight. But I still think it's heavier. The coating, by the way, is similar to Bork, not Tefalev. Indeed, it is possible to tilt towards the front pull-out tray. An ordinary high quality grill, I would not perform if the price was adequate. The seller said that he has only two panels - the top is flat, the bottom with ribs. This surprised me for the money ...



Olihka, Congratulations! Get used to it, so don't be discouraged!
Steaks maximum 4 minutes, 3.5 if thin, but so that there is no sole, the meat should be just for steaks. And to achieve medium rare roasting, when the juice is still oozing thoroughly from the middle. They also arrive later on "rest". I even fry in a pan for a maximum of 2 minutes on each side, and that's a lot for me.
The situation is fixed very simply, I cannot describe it now, it is not at hand. See instructions and toggle switches to the right of the grill. I myself did not look at the instructions, but I figured out how to do it.
Try to play with them there.
The chicken fillet was also overcooked, apparently. You need to marinate and fry, too, for a short time. In fact, as the stripes turned out to be obvious, so it is done. And do not be afraid to drop in at first. Then the smell of time will come with experience. All the same, the pieces are all different in thickness.
And it's good that the vegetables made me happy. Today with such pleasure I ate a sandwich with a baked cold turkey fillet for breakfast, and on top were pieces of red pepper, slightly marinated after grilling in my berry vinegar with aromatic salt and olive oil with thyme.




julia_bb, julia_bb, height 18.5 at the handle, the grill itself is 13 cm, I measured. So it will not be high, because when you open it, the lower panel will be normal, even lower, in front of your eyes, and this is the main thing, it seems to me.



We drove into Your House last night, and I dashed and looked at Bork again. I didn't see any special beauty there, just a normal grill. The panels seemed to me a little heavier, my husband said that they were the same in weight. But I still think it's harder. The coating, by the way, is similar to Bork, not Tefalev. Indeed, it is possible to tilt towards the front pull-out tray. An ordinary high quality grill, I would not perform if the price was adequate. The seller said that he has only two panels - the top is flat, the bottom with ribs. This surprised me for the money ...

I will try to heap something on Delonge and put a plank for an additional tilt to bring the result closer to Borkovsky. Unsubscribe after the experiment.

julia_bb, height 18.5 at the handle, the grill itself is 13 cm, I measured. So it will not be high, because when you open it, the lower panel will be normal, even lower, in front of your eyes, and this is the main thing, it seems to me.

Olga, thanks for the info

[Olihka]

Olihka, with a purchase! Let it please and work properly!
Regarding the cooking time: look at my posts, I indicated how much I cooked at almost all of them, there is not a single dish for more than 4-5 minutes, so yes, 9 is a lot.

From here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...505.0 and beyond.

Thanks for your helpful and helpful answers. I will try further. As long as I like everything, the grill is just handsome.

[Olihka]

Olihka, look at the video under the spoiler, there at 3 minutes you can see how the height of the top plate is adjusted

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[VitaVM]

VitaVM, it's great when a device, and even more so expensive enough, pleases and makes life easier! Panels, I think, are generally made at the same plant, the coating is very similar. To what temperature do you fry steaks on the heat probe? We must not be too lazy to stick it!



Svetlenki, Svetochka, thanks for the recommendation on temperature probes! I will definitely order which one to choose, is there a lot? What is yours?
Maybe we and "our" Delongy will go into a separate topic, otherwise none of the owners of other grills writes here anymore?

[julia_bb]

julia_bbThank you for the video. I found him too, I will study at home in the evening

[Rada-dms]

Maybe we and "our" Delongy will go into a separate topic, otherwise none of the owners of other grills writes here anymore?

Rada-dms, Ol, open the topic when the time is up, I'm all for!

[julia_bb]

julia_bb, let's open it after the holidays or during the second, if all Delonge users support - the time trouble is complete!

let's open after the holidays or during the second

Of course, when it is convenient, and like other users. I still have no grill at all, but I will buy it anyway sooner or later

I still have no grill at all, but I will buy it anyway sooner or later

Ask old man Hottabych as soon as possible, maybe it will work out faster! Are you on Dani-Delongy ripe?

[Rada-dms]

for the recommendation on temperature probes! I will definitely order which one to choose, is there a lot? What is yours?

Rada-dms, Olya, I have Thermapen 3. I bought it for a long time, about 3 years ago or something. They had yet to release a new model with an infrared thermometer, which costs twice as much.

Here's a link to mine from the Amazon

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And this is a model with infrared

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In the oven I have a completely ordinary, round one, but it also shows everything exactly. Link under the spoiler

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I will also subscribe to the po de longue topic with pleasure.

I, too, for a separate topic on DeLongy. It is very inconvenient to search and choose about your grill

Does Delongue have several models, a common one or the popular Delonghi Multigrill CGH 1030D?