Dishwasher selection (2)

Well, actually, water is supplied from the rocker arms
in my new machine the upper rocker was poorly inserted, and after several washes it fell off, I open the machine, and it lies in the lower basket
Is your water pressure good?

Once the strainer was lying incorrectly, the handle fell through and prevented the yoke from turning, as a result, the powder did not wash out and the dishes remained dirty. Now I constantly make sure that nothing interferes with the rocker arms.

And the powder must also be poured into the dry compartment. When wet, it has time to turn to stone and is not completely washed out. :-)

[IwOlga]

A couple of times I also had this, when something fell through and prevented the rocker arms from spinning. I try to control this, I check that nothing interferes, does not cling.
IwOlga, this happens and will happen to everyone.

[IwOlga]

My dirty dishes are constantly flowing into the powder compartment, and I sprinkle the powder on this matter, I have never pressed it. Maybe depends on the powder.
IwOlga it happens on the short program it is still poorly rinsed out.

[IwOlga]

I constantly flow into the powder compartment from dirty dishes, I pour it directly into this business, I have never pressed it yet. Maybe depends on the powder.
IwOlga it happens on the short program it is still poorly rinsed out.

With me, the same thing, I never pay attention to it, it is always washed out. Probably, the powder is different.

[IwOlga]

IwOlga, this happens and will happen to everyone.

Flaksia, I will study, but I am a dishwasher even younger than a baker - only 2 days

Julia, Anya, I have a Finish. It would be better if he was a freak, not a typewriter

Someone here wrote that those who really want PMs even move the refrigerator into the corridor. I have a kitchen 2 * 30 by 2 * 40. I don't want to take out the refrigerator. For half a year I have been climbing with a meter all over the kitchen. I lean more towards the desktop PM, but then I saw a narrow Indesite in the store, my brain is boiling again, the tape measure is in my hands, there are scuffs on my knees, there is an unhealthy shine in my eyes, and in my soul there is a desire to spend money. Even if I chop off another half meter of the kitchen and the dog bowl moves to some other place, and one cabinet door will not open, and at first we will constantly touch the booty.
I reread it, I don't want the desktop one.

[iris. ka]

iris. ka I have the same kitchen.
There is a refrigerator in the hallway. I also have a washing machine in my kitchen. because it does not fit in the bathroom. The tabletop dishwasher is also bulky, I also measured everything with a tape measure at one time, my brains boiled. As a result, I bought 45 cm, and over time I was convinced of the right choice.

[iris. ka]

iris. ka I have the same kitchen.
There is a refrigerator in the hallway. I also have a washing machine in my kitchen. because it does not fit in the bathroom. The tabletop dishwasher is also bulky, I also measured everything with a tape measure at one time, my brains boiled. As a result, I bought 45 cm, and over time I was convinced of the right choice.

This is the rational use of space, but a photo for clarity can you? Or at least according to the inventory from left to right.

[iris. ka]

iris. ka There is no way to take pictures yet. Fotik after landing on the floor with bounces. In the evening my husband will take a picture, I will throw off the photo in a personal.
But it's hard to describe, it's very peculiar here ..

I agree with Flaksia - the desktop is only lower in height. I have a kitchen 1m longer, but it has both a refrigerator and a washing machine and now PMM.
the locker is sorely lacking. I think so: I’ll buy a shoe box, put it in the corridor close to the kitchen and then I’ll naphay the kitchen thread there

Dishwasher location. In its place there used to be a cupboard-cabinet.

Hello! A great desire to acquire PMM led me to this Temko.
The husband chose BOSCH SPI 50E05 EU. Can anyone have one, share
impressions
I also want to contact SAZALEXTER-advise something from Boshiki,
there are a lot of 45cm models, how to choose the right one?
Thank you in advance

Alas, this model is not officially supplied to Russia.

How to choose? Guided by your own feelings, touch it in the store. Energy efficiency / washing / drying class A + / A / A is desirable, for example SPV58M00RU. And here's another thing, pay attention to the depth of the build-in, past the width, if you don't like hammering the walls.

Uv. Sazalexter, I will ask you again, you did not answer. Looked at PMM Candy CDP 4609. Or such options - Ardo DWF 09 E4W, Whirlpool ADP 550 WH. What do you think?

[Dmitry P!]

Dmitry P! I wrote to you about Whirlpool on page 70, post 1392.

Now I have my third dishwasher. I bought a cheap Electrolux. Before that there was dear Bompani (aka Ardo), then dear Whirpool. Whirpool liked most of all, but such a problem with the wires - you need to keep an eye on them. All served for 6 years. The ion exchanger in Bompani has broken.

Thank you. Maybe the forum does not know that there are other PMM firms? I agree that the technique is still rare, only a few are taking it. I'm waiting for what Antonina is not writing about her scum

Rita, if possible, an electrolux model.

Dishwashers are roughly divided into three categories:

elite - Miele, AEG, Asko, Bauknecht, Gaggenau, Smeg

middle class - Bosch, Siemens, Electrolux, Brandt

economical - Whirlpool, Zanussi, Candy, Ariston, Indesit, Ardo, Gorenje, BEKO.

I myself use PM Electrolux ESF 4151 since December 2004 PMM experienced 1 breakdown three years ago

I have DELFA DDW-9241 for about a year, I use it once or twice a day. I am very pleased with her.
Briefly:
• Number of sets of dishes: 9
• Number of programs: 7
• Drying
• Energy class: А
• Washing class: A
• Drying class: A
• Display

Programs and functions
• Express program
• ECO (economical)
• Intensive
• Standard (normal)
• Delay start

• Dimensions (WxHxD): 45 × 89 × 58 cm

Sandy, what about the noise? what can you compare with?

Sandy, what about the noise? what can you compare with?

Well, I don’t know, although it was written that it’s low-noise, but I probably don’t know how others make noise as a washing machine ... (it only makes noise when it collects and drains water) but I have it separately, that is, not between the cabinets, between the cabinets it can and it will be quieter

My friends have a narrow zanussi installation. They very much dissuade me not to buy a dishwasher, because this is thrown away money, it is necessary to wash after it. That even the pot after the mashed potatoes, fresh, does not wash. We also tried different methods of arrangement (we read reviews from forums on the Internet) and different detergents. They especially complained about the pills, because they are not stored for more than 6 months, they have to be crushed in a mortar, and immediately bought a large supply.

It washes everything perfectly for me, even dried buckwheat porridge, and dried yogurt jars
The upper basket is adjusted higher and lower, if you need to wash something big, I am 100% happy with it.
I use salt, rinse aid, powder.

[makabusha]

makabusha What a nonsense Everything washes perfectly, except for the protein rim after borscht soup. Friends just have a problem with PMM.

I have a Zanussi, narrow, but not built-in. Washes well! My pills, or rather 1/2.

[makabusha]

makabusha What a nonsense Everything washes perfectly, except for the protein rim after borscht. Friends just have a problem with PMM.

As if the rim after the broth is badly washed, everything else is washed perfectly

[sazalexter]

Comrades experts, what firms are now good in terms of price-quality ratio.
I never had a dishwasher, so I'm like in a tank.
Someone says you need to take 45cm, someone 60cm.
So what to take?
sazalexter can tell me what

My friends have a narrow zanussi installation. They very much dissuade me not to buy a dishwasher, because this is thrown away money, it is necessary to wash after it. That even the pot after the mashed potatoes, fresh, does not wash.

A rare occasion with your friends
In fact, any device has its pros and cons. Take the same washing machine ... I remember the times when the first Vyatka machines began to appear in stores. It was also full of negative reviews - it washes for a long time, and a special powder (low-foaming) is needed, and you can't wash some socks. Yes, that's right.But time passes, views change. Now I think that there are very few apartments without automatic washing machines.
Roughly the same story with PMM. You need more dishes than one plate per person, because you have to save it. For some it is really easier to wash with your hands. It depends on the way of life. If people are almost never at home, they came to dinner and sleep, then they will have to collect the dishes for a week. Then, of course, it's easier to wash with your hands.
The rim often remains on the pans and, indeed, you have to clean up ... BUT! After the PMM degreases the dishes, do this for three seconds. It will not work to wash absolutely everything in the PMM. I am sure that you personally and the dishwasher will be very friendly.

[Ana-stasy]

Someone says you need to take 45cm, someone 60cm.
So what to take?

Ana-stasy, you need to take what is placed in the kitchen without prejudice to the other functions of the kitchen. There is an opportunity to put 60 - it will be good, there is no such place - and 45 will do just fine. My kitchen is rather big, but it costs 45cm (10 years ago I did not go to the Bread Maker forum) and it is enough for me. In cases of special kitchen activity, I simply turn it on twice. Don't worry about the PMM size. For the sake of these 15cm I would not sacrifice the rest of the convenience.

What a blessing all the same dishwasher! Since July last year, I have a hotpoint Ariston 45 cm. I had to remove one cupboard from the kitchen, put a dishwasher instead. And the dishes had to be bribed of course. Washes perfectly! When I took out the first washed dishes from it, including an old crystal vase with a narrow neck (it was left from my mother, the eternal problem was to wash) The husband exclaimed, “The dishes are like new!
And to wash the cans for seaming how much time I spent before, especially rubbed the necks of the cans with a wire sponge. Now my assistant launches the jars perfectly, I am very happy

I also think that my friends just had no luck with the dishwasher. I buy my walt, put it, invite them to wash the dishes))))

Comrades experts, what firms are now good in terms of price-quality ratio.
I never had a dishwasher, so I'm like in a tank.
Someone says you need to take 45cm, someone 60cm.

60cm. AEG or Bosch

The brands you named are expensive. There are also cheaper I bought mine for 18800

Svetlana, more information. What is the name, model?

Svetlana, Hotpoint Ariston 45 cm there is no such model

establish the truth !!!

In fact, pots are not always cleaned. It's true. But ordinary tableware and glasses cannot be washed by hand!

All my pans were washed like new, they shine and sparkle, only the rim is washed badly after the meat broth, I put it in the car before putting it in the car, I take it here and there with an iron sponge, and then everything is wonderfully washed

A friend of my sister-in-law has had a dishwasher for many years. When I expressed my desire to buy myself (well, I have been dreaming about it for a long time), I began to dissuade - they say, she uses it once a year - just to wash the sideboards. And the remnants of food remain, and are smeared all over the dishes, does not wash as needed ..... Well, in general, when I realized that she was like my sister-in-law (she washes with the cheapest powder, throwing all the laundry in a pile at once, without taking by colors, etc. and is outraged that the washing machine does not wash well), I told her all this, but I still bought the machine for myself! This is the weight! May God grant health and happiness to the person who invented a miracle that allows me to press a button and, with a clear conscience, go watch TV or chat on the forum. As our IRR wrote, what attracts me most of all in such units is that they work, and at this time I (well, in the sense, I calmly smoke bamboo)

As our IRR wrote - what attracts me most of all in such units is that they work, and at this time I (well, in the sense, I calmly smoke bamboo)

I showed my friends the dishwasher, they also think that I am "fattening". Well, let them count! There is no rim on the pans, because.I cook everything in MV, the bowl from which to wash is 30 seconds! But the frozen beef fat on the plates ... ugh, I hate to wash it with my hands.
Not so long ago, another thought came to me: in the PMM you can wash not only dishes! If you remove the upper basket, then you can (not necessarily with powder) wash any thing that will fit into it and that cannot be cleaned in the washing machine. These are vases, figurines, baskets, nets of all sorts, plastic flowers, small things poured into a mesh basket, and much more. For the sake of fun, I'm going to wash the keyboard cover and the mouse pad in it. I've already bathed the disassembled waffle iron, put it back together - the new one shines and heats up regularly!

I constantly look at my kitchens. devices, HP, multicooker, microwaves. and I think, but why can't they be stuffed into the PMM. : girl_cray: They would have come up with something that they would understand somehow.

Not so long ago, another thought came to me: in the PMM you can wash not only dishes! If you remove the upper basket, then you can (not necessarily with powder) wash any thing that fits into it and which cannot be cleaned in the washing machine.

I like to wash my son's plastic toys there, there are all sorts of cars, the designer, he always pours them with sweet tea, then smears them with sticky hands, you can't keep track. Everything sticks to them afterwards. I tried to wash in the shower, it's troublesome, but in PMM-beauty.

I showed my friends the dishwasher, they also think that I am "fattening". Well, let them count! There is no rim on the pans, because I cook everything in MV, the bowl from which to wash is 30 seconds! But the frozen beef fat on the plates ... ugh, I hate to wash it with my hands.
Not so long ago, another thought came to me: in the PMM you can wash not only dishes!

No, I always drain the first broth, so first - the pan, then I washed everything, and then the cartoon. For jellied meat - in general, I boil and drain twice.Therefore, a poorly washed rim is present, but this is such a trifle!
And I washed a crystal vase in PMM, different baskets and even plastic bells and whistles such as souvenir peppers, onions, etc. (I want the whole set - such a choice in Laran - just not everything happens at once!)

I constantly look at my kitchens. devices, HP, multicooker, microwaves. and I think, but why can't they be stuffed into the PMM. : girl_cray: They would have come up with something that they would understand somehow.

100% hit (I already thought there was one). And then, after all the New Year and Christmas holidays, I glanced at the bread maker and the multicooker (and even with glasses) - I ran into the pantry for a steamer. Well, my mixer is separate from the bed and the bowl, and there are all sorts of cracks there - I also washed them kaaaak in the dishwasher - beauty! And even if I am a kurkul, but with clean dishes

100% hit (I already thought there was one). And then, after all the New Year and Christmas holidays, I glanced at the bread maker and the multicooker (and even with glasses) - I ran into the pantry for a steamer. Well, my mixer is separate from the bed and the bowl, and there are all sorts of cracks there - I also washed them kaaaak in the dishwasher - beauty! And even if I am a kurkul, but with clean dishes

I, too, recently took a closer look at my multicooker, scrubbed for an hour, and a toothbrush. brush and toothpicks. Then it was even a pity to cook in it, the husband says put it in a box.
In general, I don't care what they say, then I can't cook porridge on the stove anymore, then "I've been collecting dishes all day, why wash them there?" The mother-in-law came, drank the tea and said, "Why are you going to put this cup in the dishwasher? It's not greasy!" 10 if there is room. " I looked, she pursed her lips, went and defiantly rinsed (!) The cup under water, put the drain on, I said nothing, she left, I put the cup in the dishwasher. Circus, damn it!

I, too, recently took a closer look at my multicooker, scrubbed for an hour, and a toothbrush. with a brush and toothpicks. Then it was even a pity to cook in it, the husband says put it in a box.

And I’m already so used to it, I don’t need to follow - I pressed the button and went to work, and in the evening a hot dinner was ready. Recently I burned cabbage on the stove. In general, there are more dishes - I noticed that at first, out of habit, I saved it, but now every day - a full dishwasher! (there are two of us with my husband!)

A friend of my sister-in-law has had a dishwasher for many years. When I expressed my desire to buy myself (well, I have been dreaming about it for a long time), I began to discourage

It's good that none of my friends had PMM, no one dissuaded me! And thanks to this forum!

[Аnnnushka27]

It's good that none of my friends had PMM, no one dissuaded me! And thanks to this forum!

Аnnnushka27

I completely agree. Only I regret that I did not go into this topic earlier, otherwise I would have been with an assistant for a long time.

In my circle, I always have new devices first, and then everything quietly crumbles. Some directly ask what my next acquisition, so that they themselves want.

I answer Dmitrythat I am very happy with my Bekoshka: it works very quietly, washes perfectly, spacious. I noticed a decrease in power consumption. I used to wash the dishes through the boiler, now they turned it off to compare. And then there is nothing to compare direct savings in everything! So why pay extra for brands? And it's up to you!