Choosing a dishwasher

Remembering to clean the machine with the recommended products

Yes, somehow I don't forget about the car
But the stains on the dishes and the film appears constantly, even in a clean typewriter - tired!

Thank you all for the advice, I will try to wash with gel now

But the stains on the dishes and the film appears constantly, even in a clean typewriter - tired!

It is necessary to regulate the salt and rinse aid IMHO

It is necessary to regulate the salt and rinse aid IMHO

Right now I'll try to wash it with gel, I'll see the result

I have so many dishes that there is no problem to wash it after each meal with my hands, and the "mountain" is rarely very dirty

I have so many dishes that there is no problem to wash it after each meal with my hands, and the "mountain" is rarely very dirty

You can wash with your hands, but that's bad luck, you can't buy new hands in the store

You can wash with your hands, but that's bad luck, you can't buy new hands in the store

And what are the gloves for?

It's cheaper than buying dish detergents, and then washing it with your hands (with gloves), and you have to pay for everything

[sazalexter]

It is necessary to regulate the salt and rinse aid IMHO

I suppose that sazalexter here is absolutely right. I don't see any more reasons. Is that still trying to rinse thoroughly the sprinklers-rocker arms - maybe the pressure is not enough ...

It's cheaper than buying dish detergents, and then washing it with your hands (with gloves), and you have to pay for everything

It is better to choose the optimal means and modes and free up the handles for pleasant things. Moreover, there is already a dishwasher, and it is not worth buying or not. If a thing has settled in the house, then it must justify its stay 100%. Well, free time from washing dishes will not be superfluous.

At first I also had a white bloom in Electrolux, then I read the forum, measured the water hardness and set the salt to almost the highest level (I don't remember exactly, but it seems to be 7 out of 8). Now everything is shiny, but the car is eating a lot of salt.

and on my glass glasses and bowls a white bloom appeared, indelible ... it's a shame .. but still in my pm, time is more expensive

My pills Finish and everything is fine, it does not smell, everything washes perfectly. For the experiment, I bought everything separately powder + salt + rinse aid and I did not like the games with switching salt, rinse aid (the powder washed everything efficiently). For myself, I concluded that the tablets suit me very much, they wash everything wonderfully (there is no smell, I smelled the dishes right after washing on a special night) and why then would I suffer with different settings, but tablets are more expensive, but everything is easy and simple. And if we assume that there may not be enough salt in the tablets, then salt can always be additionally poured into the desired compartment and that's all. Pills are harder to counterfeit than powder and mouthwash. I always wash dishes at 70 grams. at night (I have a triple electricity tariff), I rarely use short programs when there are a lot of dishes and until the night I do not have enough clean and on short programs everything is fine with tablets.

But what if the water is salty?
My mother has interruptions in tap water in the summer and they use water from a well (since the area is seaside, then the water is salty).
Kirdyk to a typewriter, right?

Set the salt to zero, or it didn't work for us. Didn't figure out how to twist this thing. By default, it is set to the average.

Sweet Hedgehog, read the instructions carefully, or if it is not clear there, then call the service center that serves your machine and ask them how to reduce it, or ask a little man to read the instructions. Now they began to produce products with disgusting instructions, I first read and study everything, and then my husband explains the incomprehensible places to me in normal language.

Set the salt to zero, or it didn't work for us. Didn't figure out how to twist this thing. By default, it is set to the average.

If you do not live in a convent, then you must have some kind of male homo sapiens with a technical bias in your immediate environment. Or ask for help with the studio ...

My husband is a techie both by education and by profession - he never figured it out.
The instruction is very meager. It is written: "turn" and that's it. And she doesn't turn. I wouldn't want to rip it off either.
About the service center ...
You will not believe, but there are places on the planet where they do not exist, and the Internet is sky-high and is not used by the masses
I'll try to find and call in Moscow. Maybe they will say what they say about salty water ...

My concern is that there is far from the same super-peper refined salt ... But I suppose it's real, sea salt.

[Admin]

Admin Tatyana! I use Finish almost all the time, no problem!
Remembering to clean the machine with the recommended products

I also asked in another Temka: how often to clean it and where to pour this cleaning agent?

In the warranty card there are addresses of service centers, call any of them and ask how the difference is where to call or where? the main thing in the service.

Aunt Besya, it's too early for you to think about cleaning a special typewriter. means. My previous machine was almost 4 years old and I have never used these tools. The filters should be cleaned periodically, the machine should be kept ajar and washed more often on a hot program and there will be no odors in it.

[Creamy.]

I will answer. or rather, I will print what is printed on the package. The tool (bottle) is placed strictly in an empty PMM. Then remove the sticker from the cap cover without opening the cover. (Exactly, without opening the cover, this is not a typo!). Place the bottle upside down with the lid closed (for Finish in the lower tray. For Miele in the upper basket-tray) Use in an empty dishwasher with a program of at least 65 degrees Celsius. Everything is literal. as written on the label. Wish you luck. Creamy.
I support Svetlana 201that a reasonable attitude to the machine minimizes the use of special equipment for cleaning the machine.

I clean my typewriter once every six months with Fresh-UP, a powder that scatters over the entire surface of the dishwasher chamber and turn it on at 70 degrees, the machine then sparkles inside.

when I bought a dishwasher, the seller advised me to buy a magnetic filter for a pipe from scale. Does anyone have such a device help? After all, if it helps, it turns out that salt is no longer needed !?

[magnetic filter on the pipe against scale]

... advised to buy magnetic filter on the pipe against scale... Does anyone have such a device help? After all if it helps,then it turns out that the salt is no longer needed !?

For such advice to the seller, with his such extensive knowledge of the school chemistry course, I don’t even know what kind of execution should be carried out. Since when did scale (insoluble calcium salt) have the properties of iron filings and become magnetized? Salt is needed even when your machine is connected to chemically pure distilled water, otherwise your dishes will "melt" like sugar from an overly aggressive environment of the detergent powder. This is the enemy's advice to quickly kill your dishwasher. Or did you yourself not understand that the magnetic filter retains only a mechanical metal suspension?

Sorry, but you are wrong ... The magnetic activator is placed on the input of the hall. water and prevents calcium and magnesium salts from binding in scale salts when heated. Heating engineer with 20 years of experience.My notes on this topic in the topic about washing powders. Give a link?
I won't say whether salt is needed in the PMM, I have not studied the principle of its action ...

In boiler rooms, chemically pure salt tablets are filled with bags. A heating technician friend of mine brings it to his home for the dishwasher.

That sho you say ???
Heating technology for soap !!! It's okay that they have a different chemical composition, and salt for boiler rooms is ordinary table salt and all the salt in sulfocarbon ???

So I wrote about hardness salts ... https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=4529.0
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=4529.0

[Creamy]

Salt NaCl in boiler houses is needed for the regeneration (saturation) of sulfo-coal, which is located in sodium cationite filters, which serve to soften water in the heating system or boiler water. For PMM, neither table salt nor sulfo-coal is suitable, another sorbent is used in the ion exchanger and a special one is used for its regeneration. salt. Thank you Creamy , reminded about the ion exchanger.

Is there no ion exchanger in the PMM?

Tanya, just let me be smart ... Then you won't stop ... I'm a professional bore ...

I found it on the internet

"One of the main chemical components used in dishwashers is regenerating salt. It is poured into a special container of the machine in the amount of 1 (for narrow machines) or 2 kg (for full-size dishwashers) before the dishwashing cycle. It is important to add salt immediately before washing the dishes. , and not after it "in reserve", since prolonged exposure to salt on the metal surfaces of the machine can lead to the formation of rust.

Instead of a special regenerating salt, ordinary table salt (NaCl) can also be used in the machine, but here it is important to make sure that the salt is absolutely pure and does not contain any impurities. Usually, moisture-absorbing substances are added to table salt, which are safe for human health, but are contraindicated in a dishwasher (for example, gypsum powder). If the saturated salt solution turns out to be transparent and not cloudy, then such salt can be used for machine washing dishes. "

The salt in the boiler room is not absolutely pure and its solution is used, filtered and without suspensions. You can probably use an extra, but I would not risk it ...

Is it possible to find gypsum in edible salt on occasion?

[Creamy]

Is it possible to find gypsum in edible salt on occasion?

Tan, in our Artemovskaya (the largest deposit) and stones are possible ... I lost my tooth so ...

I think this is not the case where you need to save ...

For Creamy, firstly, I apologize - I pounced on you wildly, but rather not on you, but on the unfortunate heating engineer, which he shoves all sorts of nonsense into the PMM and advises others ... a fur filter is used. I think if you saw sediment and mucus on the walls of the mortar, you yourself would give up the idea of ​​using ordinary salt, and even more salt for boiler rooms, for your assistant.

Everything is clear, the water in the PMM softens the ion exchanger. Salt for PMM is needed, but not table salt, but special. No need to save!

To the question natashamir I will answer - a magnetic activator will facilitate the work of the ion exchanger, but salt (special for PMM) is needed - without it, the ion exchanger will fail. Salt consumption will simply be less.

Sorry, but you are wrong ... The magnetic activator is placed on the input of the hall. water and prevents calcium and magnesium salts from binding in scale salts when heated.

I do not believe. Unless something small, magnetic, which has passed through the filter, will attract to the pipe walls. Already wrote here - a divorce for money.

[UKKA]

And I read about magnetic filters that they are even installed at hydroelectric power plants, thermal power plants and so on ... Another question is that those that are on sale for us - consumers are of low quality ...UKKAI think right

[UKKA]

And I read about magnetic filters that they are even installed at hydroelectric power plants, thermal power plants and so on ...Another question is that those that are on sale for us are of low quality ...UKKAI think right

Magnetic filters are widespread. And it is used for its intended purpose - to detain everything that is magnetic. But they have no effect on the chemical properties of the water flowing through them. Therefore, when such things are sold at a high price, "in order to slightly reduce the consumption" of relatively inexpensive salt, then this is a stupid divorce for money !!!

[Jefry]

Jefry Zhen, well, who and why should I breed ???

Well I already wrote that I worked in the trade and designservice heating equipment company. We were engaged in autonomous systems and the arrival of magnetic activators was quite conscious! We had the opportunity (a year of free service) to observe the condition of boilers and dispensers when using various softeners. Our team was creative and curious. And they not only sold boilers, but also made autonomous units for themselves, so that it was possible to observe the condition of the columns. After MAG, the state is quite good, no scale was observed.
The question is that the PMM already has an ion exchanger and MAG only facilitates the work of the ion exchanger ... But for a washing machine or for a column, MAG takes on the main load. And another question is, what is the quality ... Here I can ask the servicemen ...

Who uses the gel please tell me:

- to expose to the typewriter the mode of using the tablet ?? (so as not to take salt and cleaner)
- the picture of the bottle shows that it is poured into the compartment for the powder, I read that someone is pouring directly onto the dishes, or onto the walls - how is it better?
- Have you tried to wash the meat grinder with gel? doesn't get dark? (disastrously depressing to wash her with your hands)

[julifera,]

julifera,
forgive me for not realizable, but just in case, if you suddenly missed it, I remind you that you need to fill the salt into the machine - first the water in the salt compartment, and then the salt itself, otherwise the ion exchanger is kapets!

It is better to pour the gel into the compartment, because if there is a preliminary rinse in the machine, the gel will simply be washed off down the drain.

[Rita]

It is better to pour the gel into the compartment, because if there is a preliminary rinse in the machine, the gel will simply be washed off down the drain.

Valuable advice! Thank you Rita

Salt - yes, in the know!
This is the very first according to the instructions - it was supposed to make the first walk empty without dishes, only one salt should be poured.

Valuable advice!

Salt - yes, in the know!
This is the very first according to the instructions - it was supposed to make the first walk empty without dishes, only one salt should be poured.

Hats off to people reading instructions!

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I have 8 - EIGHT programs !!!! Cool shade! - this is to die do not get up !!! For all occasions!!!
In reality, I have only one extra - there is an additional rinse, for baby dishes.
Some programs without preliminary, some with rinsing, plus a separate rinse by itself.
If not for the advice, I could have foolishly flung the gel into the rinsing program directly onto the dish and hello

[julifera,]

julifera,
forgive me for not realizable, but just in case, if you suddenly missed it, I remind you that you need to fill the salt into the machine - first the water in the salt compartment, and then the salt itself, otherwise the ion exchanger is kapets!

but I did not understand, I just pour salt into the hole under the basket for the ion exchanger. and how water is then pushed out by salt or what?

and the gel is a compartment for a tablet, I have a compartment only for rinse aid ...

but I did not understand, I just pour salt into the hole under the basket for the ion exchanger. and how water is then pushed out by salt or what?

I have it written in the instructions like this:

First, pour 1 liter of water into the salt compartment.
And then gradually add salt there.
Everything fell fine.
After a liter of water, I only got 1 kg of salt, then a week later I reached the Internet and read that in 45 cm PMM just 1 kg of salt fits, and in 60 cm - 2 kg

julifera And what kind of gel you have that you can wash luminous? Me, too, gets a meat grinder.There is no hot water for 3 months already, I don't risk throwing it into the dishwasher. Please write what kind of gel it is. Maybe we have one.

I have it written in the instructions like this:

First, pour 1 liter of water into the salt compartment.
And then gradually add salt there.
Everything fell fine.
After a liter of water, I only got 1 kg of salt, then a week later I reached the Internet and read that in 45 cm PMM just 1 kg of salt fits, and in 60 cm - 2 kg

And I only got a pound ...

[Somat Multi-Perfect Gel]

julifera And what kind of gel you have that you can wash luminous? Me, too, gets a meat grinder. There is no hot water for 3 months already, I don't risk throwing it into the dishwasher. Please write what kind of gel it is. Maybe we have one.

Somat Multi-Perfect Gel

julifera, I pour the gel only into the powder compartment, I have 1 rinse aid, and the salt, as it was displayed when buying the machine, is still worth it. I have Lion Charmy Cristal Gel that can wash aluminum, I don’t know about Somat Multi-Perfect.

With my PMM-coy, there was a strip with divisions for determining the hardness of the water, you dip it into the water and see how much it dyed.
I got 1 division out of 5, this corresponds to level 2 of salt, by default it was level 3 from the factory.

As for the friendship of Somat-gel and aluminum - I will later experiment on a Berner saucepan, if the bottom does not turn black, then I will try the meat grinder, otherwise I don’t want to start experiments with it. There is no other aluminum in the house)))

I tested it on an old dry slag, it didn't turn black.

I tested it on an old dry slag, it didn't turn black.

I also have a pair of rare pots and an aluminum frying pan that can be washed perfectly in the PMM. Become like new. But modern meat grinders, for example, are covered with a dark gray smear.

I have an old meat grinder, soaps and Kristall and now calgonite, everything is fine, t-t-t.

I have an old Soviet galvanized meat grinder, and a modern aluminum one ...