Choosing a dishwasher

I bought through the Internet, they did not offer it, the store only deals with technology, but let's go to watch today.
Tell me, do you need to add salt anyway?
Even if you use pills?
And I don't quite understand about the rinse aid either ...

Add salt in ANY case. This is rule 1. And about the rinse a little more complicated. First, we see if you have a strip - the test is in the instructions. If yes, then we lower it for a while in simple tap water and see what value came out. I didn't have such a strip, I just called the water utility and found out the hardness of the water. It turned out that the factory settings of the PM suit me. But in the process of washing the dishes were slippery, especially if you take them out with wet hands, you feel very much. I had to change the rinse aid value.

I bought through the Internet, they did not offer it, the store only deals with technology, but let's go to watch today.
Tell me, do you need to add salt anyway?
Even if you use pills?
And I don't quite understand about the rinse aid either ...

you don't need pills, it has everything, but if you buy everything separately, it will be more economical

Add salt in ANY case. This is rule 1. And about the rinse a little more complicated. First, we see if you have a strip - the test is in the instructions. If yes, then we lower it for a while in plain tap water and see what value came out. I didn't have such a strip, I just called the water utility and found out the hardness of the water. It turned out that the factory settings of the PM suit me. But in the process of washing the dishes were slippery, especially if you take them out with wet hands, you feel very much. I had to change the rinse aid value.

salt is not needed for tablets

I bought through the Internet, they did not offer it, the store only deals with technology, but let's go to watch today.
Tell me, do you need to add salt anyway?
Even if you use pills?
And I don't quite understand about the rinse either ...

In all instructions to the PMM it is indicated that if you have hard water (and I haven’t met another one yet), then you cannot turn off the salt supply when using tablets (turn on the Tab function). There are simply not enough pill salts.

In all instructions to the PMM it is indicated that if you have hard water (and I haven’t met another one yet), then you cannot turn off the salt supply when using tablets (turn on the Tab function). There are simply not enough pill salts.

Well! but I didn't have it written .. ATP ..

Spa! for everyone!
My dishes have been washed, everything is fine!
Now I'll go to the store to see what they offer ...

Well! but I didn't have it written .. ATP ..

Do you have such a function in your car? I mean Tab? Look better at the description for it, maybe they just missed it. I have a third car and are all from different manufacturers. All were written.

salt is not needed for tablets

Here, in this thread, I don't remember on which page Sutherland said that the lack of salt can lead to a breakdown of the ion exchanger. Many do not use salt and nothing seems to have happened, but I do not risk it. It's not difficult.

Do you have such a function in your car? I mean Tab? Take a closer look at the description for it, maybe they just missed it. I have a third car and are all from different manufacturers. All were written.

no, Functions tab. I do not have. I have a Kaiser

I want to try the Japanese remedy Lyon .. Someone seems to have already tried it, did you like it or not? who tried it?

I have my dishes as a lion, I like it very much ...

no, Functions tab. I do not have. I have a Kaiser

Oh, I thought so, that's why this phrase is missing. It always goes in the description of this function.

I used Lyon. I love Japanese people (both powders and dishwashing detergent). There is no difference at times, of course, but qualitatively.

no, Functions tab. I do not have. I have a Kaiser

And I have not. I generally have a desktop Bosch.

I have my dishes as a lion, I like it very much ...

Are these pills or powder? And the price, if not a secret.

Hello everyone!
Well, here I got it, a dishwasher !!!!!
Glad!
Now they are connecting it.
And immediately the question arose as to what funds to buy ...
Advise ...
This is the dishwasher. Elektrolux ESL6552RA
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We also have Elektrolux, also for 60, only freestanding.
Claro bought the salt and rinse aid. And I bought several detergents for different dishes with different contaminants: for very dirty - tablets, for slightly dirty - Japanese KAO powder, and if something with a non-stick coating (so that particles of the powder do not scratch) - KAO gel too.
As for the salt, I put it out after I learned the hardness in Vodokanal.
Rinse aid - at first (according to "local" advice) I set it to 1 - I didn’t like the drying quality (there were water droplets or streaks), I set it to 2.
There is no TAB function, I do not change any settings when using tablets / powder / gel.

We also have Elektrolux, also for 60, only freestanding.
Claro bought the salt and rinse aid. And I bought several detergents for different dishes with different contaminants: for very dirty - tablets, for slightly dirty - Japanese KAO powder, and if something with a non-stick coating (so that particles of the powder do not scratch) - KAO gel too.

how do you like the funds of the company KAO?

how do you like the funds of the company KAO?

I have been using Japanese household chemicals for a long time. I react very sensitively to strong odors because of allergies, the Japanese "chemistry" does not possess such odors. I like everything very much for washing / cleaning, therefore I could not pass by dishwasher detergents.
Everything is washed well, after a few washes after purchasing PMM forks / spoons, glasses / plates, pots - gradually washed up to their original appearance
With my gel and non-stick frying pans and pots from cartoons - the result is super!

I only have dishwashing detergent, but I'm very happy .....

I want to try the Japanese remedy Lyon .. Someone seems to have already tried it, did you like it or not? who tried it?

I washed for a long time .... I liked everything except one - expensive .. Now my Finish-gel .. I like it.

Hello everyone! Tell me, can anyone use it, good tools:
Minel, fine dreaming, Nord?

Hello everyone! Tell me, can anyone use good tools?

Scorpiolka, your images in the text are not visible ....

Scorpiolka, your images in the text are not visible ....

Yes, Anyuta, for some reason it was not possible to place them, so I wrote their names

Hello everyone! Tell me, can anyone use it, good tools:
Minel,

they definitely wrote about Minel here - look - read, but I don't remember about the others ...

Thank you! Look for

Thank you! Look for

I have been using it for several years now. I am satisfied with the price and quality. True, we are much cheaper than in Moscow.

I have been using it for several years now. I am satisfied with the price and quality. True, we are much cheaper than in Moscow.

And what exactly? Minel? Powder or tablets?

And what exactly? Minel? Powder or tablets?

Tablets, Minel salt. Here they wrote their opinions and those who use Minel powder also like it.

But whoever used this?
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Girls who use Domol, in Watsons there is a promotion for all Domol products 1 + 1 = 3,
you take 2 units - the third as a gift!

Thank you!

Girls who use Domol, in Watsons there is a promotion for all Domol products 1 + 1 = 3,
you take 2 units - the third as a gift!

Thanks for the tip

On the website and in the catalog it is indicated that the gift should be cheaper than the main product. What else can I take from Domolov, who has tried what?

We usually take detergents for white and color. I also liked the liquid detergent.

but I liked the toilet cleaner and shower cabin cleaner. in general, for such an action I just take three boxes of pills, three packs of powder - three of any means I need. you get a discount of about 30%.

On the website and in the catalog it is indicated that the gift should be cheaper than the main product. What else can I take from Domolov, who has tried what?

You can take all 3 units the same, you can different. Just for 1 kopeck. the cheapest product will break through. It is most profitable to take everything in approximately the same price range.
It is not the first time that they have held such actions, and I regularly use Domolom with them.

There is nothing to compare with. At the start of the machine, we bought everything from one company for testing. My first powder was Minel. I liked it very much. Washes everything. Not cheap (lately, the price has been growing and growing before my eyes), but very economical. I pour less than 15 "ml" for a full load.

Girls and boys, is it possible to wash the finish, final grinding and somat with gels, multicooker saucepans and alum. dishes? Thank you!

I wash pots from MV with somat gel - I like the result, but the smell is harsh!

By the way, a question for the experienced. I discovered one unpleasant detail: on plastic containers for food after washing, white rough spots began to appear at the bottom at the bottom.First, on one container, then on the second ... If you compare in appearance, you can get similar traces from starch: soak peeled potatoes in water, then drain the water and wait for the remaining droplets to dry. These marks cannot be removed with a brush, similar to damage to the top layer. They are formed mainly at the bottom from the inside of the container. Now I don't know what to do, hammer and wash in the PMM or by hand? The containers were bought in Ikea and Ashan.

I had this with cheap containers, with food containers (they have a mark on the bottom that can be used up to 100 C), there are no problems when washing in the dishwasher.

Natka8, I use any gels in my saucepan from MV
aluminum is not mine in PMM vaaapsche

Thanks for the quick answers And what about aluminum - does the Panasonkovskaya saucepan get dark outside?

And what about aluminum - does the Panasonkovskaya saucepan get dark outside?

nope

Thank you!

And my Panasonic bowl did not darken, but a strange plaque and stains appeared. But I washed without powder and turned off the rinse aid - only water at 70 degrees.

I am afraid to wash the multicooker pan in the dishwasher. I washed a new frying pan several times - it began to stick, did not risk more, only with my hands.

It seems that they wrote in this Temka that you can wash with Japanese gel ...

I washed a new frying pan several times - it began to stick,

my pans also began to stick, even though those on which it is written that you can wash in the PMM
but nothing is done with MV (mmm)

I use multicooker to wash bowls and non-stick and ceramic Japanese KAO gel. There are no changes.
Only now the gel is running out, and it has not been brought to the store for a long time (

I bought a bunch of Japanese gel and powder + salt and rinse aid. And they presented a "miracle" novelty - the Fairey Platinum tablets.
With these tablets, the dishes were sometimes not washed out in places, during a normal normal load. And the awful smell almost knocked off my feet when opening the pack and the machine after washing (I threw out more than half of the pack.
Now I will not experiment for sure, except for Japanese ones I will try. I can't stand chemical odors.