Sibelis
francevna, I also say, the online store does not work. Both phones are disconnected, they do not answer messages, orders are ignored. How else to explain?)
Anna67
Sibelis, and the gochu store itself is also not working? Maybe you can call them and order one piece, their website offers to leave their mail immediately for contact.
Sibelis
Anna67, all other stores sell only as a set. I wrote here in the topic of joint purchases - maybe with someone to buy and share. I just don't need these three caps, I still need to keep them somewhere ...
Belka13
Sibelis, they are inserted into one another for storage
Sibelis
Belka13, no, I'm not going to keep them. One of them will be used all the time - now I have a heavy glass dome, brought from France, for this purpose. But it is not vacuum, but rather decorative. He lives right on the table, I close the half-eaten with them in a plate). And in the closet there will be two more of the same place). Well, or maybe give it to someone ...
sleepyhead
I got my handsome Profi Cook PC-VK 1080. I fell in love at first sight. Tiny, pretty, neat. Vacuuming native packages with a bang! I tried to vacuum freeze bags 60 microns. With a straw, with single, double and quadruple gauze, with non-woven fabric and with ribbed pieces from your own bags. With a tube and double gauze, it evacuates the air, seals it well, but after half an hour air appears in the bag, apparently the bags themselves do not hold a vacuum. With non-woven and ribbed bags, it does not pump out at all. So I thought, there are smooth vacuum bags in the store, but they are 70 microns, not much more than for freezing. Should I spend money on them and delivery, or maybe it won't work either. I'll probably buy ribbed bags without any dancing with tambourines. I plan to evacuate only homemade cheese for ripening, and this is a long process - you need the reliability of the vacuum and the products for the Su-vide. I have nothing special to store in the refrigerator, I cook a little, one or two times, you can send food to the freezer without a vacuum. I still have such thoughts that maybe this is why the vacuumizers break down for some who use tubes, all the same rubber is squeezed by them. With gauze, in principle, you can try smooth vacuum bags (it is thin), but then it might somehow be a material opportunity to spend 700 rubles at random, it’s not known whether it will work or not. These are the thoughts that arose with the purchase of this device and the study of this topic. THANKS to everyone who writes here and shares their own and other people's experience !!!
Annutka
Quote: soneyka
With a straw and double gauze, it pumps out the air, seals it well, but after half an hour the air in the bag appears, apparently the bags themselves do not hold a vacuum

Svetlana, so that the air is not allowed through, you need to make a second seam nearby without a tube and gauze, just make a seam without vacuuming.
sleepyhead
Quote: Annutka
Svetlana, so that the air is not allowed through, you need to make a second seam nearby without a tube and gauze, just make a seam without vacuuming.

Thank you. I did and clamped the tube. Sealing is reliable, apparently the bags themselves are allowed to pass air under vacuum, the thickness of the material is not enough.
Annutka
Svetlana, I have a pro cook for the third year already, it works well, I use it on average once or twice a week. I don’t bother with smooth bags, I tried it first, but I stopped experimenting, I buy corrugated ones.
Sibelis
sleepyheadif you buy smooth bags that are for vacuum, they will not leak.
francevna
sleepyhead, Svetlana, congratulations on your good helper! Let it work properly and serve for a long time.
Don't bother with sleek bags. After all, you freely place orders for Ali, subscribe rolls for packaging from there.
Sibelis
francevna, Is it cheaper on Ali? I looked, but somehow I did not find anything cheap. Maybe I was looking badly ...
I'm also going to use normal corrugated bags, I took the smooth ones for the first time, while I master the vacuum apparatus - so that it would not be a pity to experiment.




I studied these smooth bags from Metro under a microscope - the manufacturer did not bother to write the thickness on them. If only to orientate, maybe someone knows?




sleepyhead, congratulations on the "new thing", let it please!
francevna
Sibelis, I did not order on Ali, but many members of the forum shared their purchases with Ali.
Bijou
Quote: soneyka
Sealing is reliable, apparently the bags themselves are allowed to pass air under vacuum, the thickness of the material is not enough.
1) I do not know how the freezer bags are arranged, but the vacuum bags are double-layered. There is not only a matter of thickness, but the fact that outside the polyethylene (or whatever it is melting there) is covered with another material that is opaque to gases. Probably, someday, molecules from the air will run through it, but this will be beyond our needs in the vacuum of this package. Therefore, layers from other, corrugated, packages do not work - the outer layer does not melt and does not adhere properly to the inner one.

2) The question is in the content. Since the smooth bags are actually quite thin, they get hurt easily. To make holes in bags with dried fruits when pumping out or storing is not a thing to do. Nuts - they lie in a stick for a year. I softened the bag of seeds after a month - now I reached into the closet and found ... tadaaam ... sealed candies. They have to be thrown out already, because they are, as it were, not two years old. Well, or one and a half ... Or two and a half. But definitely dofiga! You can track it on the forum if you try hard - then I was just starting to master the Crossroads with Kukuruza and ran into the action of the bars loved by children.))
And in the freezer is a great bag of last year's cauliflower. More precisely, there are two of them, but one was badly pumped out from the very beginning, so he was covered in frost after a couple of months. And this one, the lucky one, is clean.

After my husband's cookies tried to convince me that large bags do not hold a vacuum, I began to put cookies in a bag (Hello Anna, this is according to her advice). Now they lie plump for at least a few months.

Generally, congratulations on your new assistant !!!
sleepyhead
Bijou, Helen, thanks for the clarification. As I get rich a little buy smooth vacuum bags and try. Only with a straw I will not, I'm afraid to damage my handsome. I'll try with a gauze bandage. I really liked it - it's cheap, affordable, sterile, safe, convenient and it seems to work.

And on Ali, the girls wrote that it is more profitable to buy corrugated bags, since there is free delivery, on Ozone with delivery it seems more expensive. And my legs are sick, I hardly go anywhere, so I definitely need delivery. The postman brings me from the post office, I pay her a little extra.
Sibelis
sleepyhead, together with the packer I took two rolls of gemlux 30x600 at Ozone for 970 rubles. From what I found, the cheapest option. The quality is normal. 28x500 two rolls - 679 p. Delivery was free for me.




I looked at the packer and found a super useful feature - a clip for bags. I really miss her, the edge of the bag slips and twists all the time while I close the lid. Especially if you keep the package on weight.
Bijou
Quote: Sibelis
I really miss her, the edge of the bag slips and twists all the time while I close the lid.
Uh .. And with a stapler along the very edge?
Anna67
I do not have an edge, but the whole package is sliding. Well, you need to hang it down and support it, put the edge straight, and also slam the lid. But to slam this floor of trouble, then it is impossible to open it. Probably I will disassemble and see what he has inside for the latches, which I just did not disassemble, including multicooker, manual vacuum pumps on batteries and even a tonometer, but this one still stands
LudMila
Quote: soneyka
on Ozone with delivery it seems more expensive
On Ozone, when ordering goods from the application for any amount, delivery is free. This is an innovation since August, instead of points.
Although it is necessary to find out (have not ordered yet), delivery to the point of issue or to the apartment.
Sibelis
LudMila, I ordered, I live in ass world far suburbs. Delivered the next day, free of charge.




Bijou, no, I did not explain well, the whole package is skewed, and the edge ceases to fall into the right place.




Anna67, here, and I mean it.




By the way, it also works unlocked if you press on the top of the cover
Anna67
Well, if you press it, then it will snap into place. But I vaguely remember that the instructions said to press on both sides, but where will I get so many hands? Well, something wet is not often evacuated.
Lerele
And today I bought some kind of vacuum in aldi, my pro cook stopped automatically soldering after sucking, I had to turn on the seal with my hands, and it became bad to suck. And it was uncomfortable without it, I often use it.
olaola1
Quote: Lerele
pro cook stopped automatically soldering after sucking
It looks like this is a disease of proficouches. I had two models with this sore.
Bijou
And which Profics, which are new or old?
Lerele
Old ones, I guess. Here is a photo of 2014 found

Vacuum packing machine




Now this is what I liked, there is a cutter for cutting packages.
A bit noisy, the pro worked quieter.

Vacuum packing machine
Marpl
A couple of days ago in the Metro on Varshavka there were manual CASO vacuumators for 1500 rubles. (there were still 2 pieces left) and many rolls and packages of Gemlux.
Vacuum packing machineVacuum packing machine
The cutter for rolls can be bought separately, the Korean Guchi costs 200 rubles.
Sibelis
Marpl, cool, you can take it for 1000 if you use a discount coupon. I would take it, but I have no time to go there and have no time (.




Anna67, it is necessary to press in turn, and not simultaneously.





Today I jumped and jumped with these smooth bags, spat and took out the corrugated ones. I will pack in smooth ones that for which a vacuum is not needed. Well, he does not want me to be smooth - it does not pump out, then it does not seal. Each time, only on the third attempt it turns out.




By the way, I was told by phone in the Gochu hardware store that there is now a 50% discount on Gochev containers, if anyone needs it, call them.
olaola1
Quote: Bijou
which exactly Profics
1015 and 1080.
Lord 68
Dear women. You bought such good and expensive devices and start saving on consumables. Well, the truth is why this hemorrhoid with smooth bags. One-sided corrugated bags can be found inexpensively and immediately purchase a batch of different bags. This does not cost much more than a sleek vacuum bag.
Sibelis
Lord 68, everyone decides for himself. And what does it mean - not much more expensive? Show me the 20x30 corrugated bags, which cost 2.60 apiece, how smooth they are, and I'll buy them right away.
Marpl
But I completely agree with the man. The vacuumator is designed for certain packages, with which there will be no misfires, if not evacuation, the sealing does not go completely. And then we say that the apparatus does not work well. At first I also tried with different bags, used straws, but then I collected rolls of different different sizes according to the action. It's like buying a car that needs high-octane gasoline for normal driving, and it will be filled with 92. It will drive, but bad. So it is with packages.
francevna
Quote: Marpl
It's like buying a car that needs high-octane gasoline for normal driving, and it will be filled with 92. It will drive, but bad. So it is with packages.
Marina, that's right.
sleepyhead
Quote: francevna
Marina, that's right.
That's it, and I'm talking about too. I'm especially against the straws. You can try with a bandage, it's thin. And you, Allochka, are doubly right, because you have Profiquk for 3 years already, you use only corrugated bags and pah, pah, so as not to jinx it, it works great for you.
Bijou
Quote: soneyka
because you have Profikuk for 3 years, you use only corrugated bags and ugh, ugh, so as not to jinx it, it works great for you.
How much do I have? Somewhere around that, I guess ...
sleepyhead
Girls, I was in frustration brought me delivery yesterday Profificus, I immediately did not pay attention, and there was only a sales receipt, but no cash register. Without a cash register, they won't take a guarantee, if that. I called today, my manager will only be there on Monday.




Quote: Bijou
How much do I have? Somewhere around that, I guess ...

Helen, do you use the tubes? I am not asking these questions out of harm, I am just gaining experience from all of you.
Lord 68
Dear Natasha! I didn't mean to offend you.I won't tell you how much my bags cost now, but believe me, the difference in price between smooth for a vacuum and corrugated was insignificant. Bought different sizes in different stores at discounts and many. I can't spend half a year already. Believe me, I talk on many sites about packages in particular. Many people use smooth bags, most of them use the ones recommended by the manufacturer.
Sibelis
sleepyhead, did you pay in advance?




Lord 68, yes, I also realized that I would use corrugated ones. Smooth ones will not disappear either, I will drink them without a vacuum.
sleepyhead
Quote: Sibelis
did you pay in advance?
I gave the money to the courier.
Sibelis
sleepyheadand he didn't give you any check? I also paid the courier, but with a card, he had such an apparatus with him, from which the check got out.
But you must be given back if you apply.
Bijou
Quote: soneyka
Helen, do you use the tubes? I am not asking these questions out of harm, I am just gaining experience from all of you.
I use the tubes.)
Yes, everything is clear, of course - everyone adapts as best he can. Sometimes I make folds, sometimes I put in non-woven material from a roll napkin.

Here, my husband loves purchased cookies. We buy a box at once in the warehouse. It's very damp here and there are a lot of moths because of ... well, a lot, in short.)) You can't just leave cookies. I pack the whole box in large bags at once, then open it and transfer it to an airtight box, from where we already use it.

So I went and photographed the remains. The package on the right is slightly looser than the left, but the photo does not convey that in fact everything is quite tightly tightened there. A regular bag is laid inside, it slightly spoils the picture.))

Vacuum packing machine

I don't seem to remember getting enough air, except that at the very beginning it was once, after which I quickly learned how to lay a bag. Against the background of how many people periodically respond that branded corrugated bags have become unstuck or filled with air, I have a very normal result, I am protecting.
Oh, right now I'll go take a picture of those candy! That's really sooo much time for them!
sleepyhead
Quote: Sibelis
But you must be given back if you apply.
I will call on Monday. The problem is that if I have to go to get the check myself ... my legs are sick - only by taxi, and now I have spent all the money on the vacuum cleaner, I have left until my pension, and my pension is already on the 20th.
Sibelis
sleepyhead, let them scan and email you. Now this is quite normal.




Bijou, my tacoe does not sing
Marpl
That's right, now many IMs send checks to the post office.
Bijou
Look!

Vacuum packing machine

She also twisted it like that, and so ... It is difficult to see and that's it. ((But there are even tubes flattened from rarefaction.

Damn, what time do they have? I suspect that the latest is spring or early summer of 17.
Sibelis
I need to try some other straws. And with these five hundred what to do?
sleepyhead
Lenochka, gave me an idea. I am conducting an experiment, I took two freezer bags, inserted one into the other and put a gauze bandage folded in half inside the bottom one. It was pumped out and sealed perfectly. Now I will wait, whether they take air or not.




Thanks for the tip about e-mail




Why am I experimenting with freezer bags - they are more accessible to me. I bought it in an online grocery store along with groceries. And in the only store that I found for my city, smooth vacuum bags - 480 rubles 100 pieces of 20x30 bags and pay 300 rubles for delivery. And it is still unknown how these packages will behave.
Bijou
Quote: Sibelis
And with these five hundred what to do?
Drink cocktails!

sleepyhead, well, here ... The owner of the packer has less than a week, and already with rac-proposals!

By the way, people, do you think there are rolls with the "correct" film or not?
https: // package-corrugated. рф / p329098880-riflenyj-vakuumnyj-rulon.html

Theoretically, 230 rubles for these 6 meters with a width of 20 cm is it a lot or a little at the present time?
There is another width, but this is the most convenient, IMHO.
sleepyhead
Helen, this is probably a wholesale company. I don't see their delivery. And the city is mine.




On Monday I'll call, find out, unsubscribe.
Bijou
Quote: soneyka
I don't see their delivery.
Aren't you on the phone by any chance? This site was thrown out to me in advertising on my phone. Not at all how it looked from the computer.))
It is not written about rolls, packages - from 100 pieces, delivery anywhere and by anything, including a courier. ))
Even neighboring states, I see, are taken care of.))

Call - you will find out. You can see the phone number on the website.
sleepyhead
No, not from your phone, from your computer. I'll call, maybe even tomorrow their work schedule says that they work on Sunday too. It would be cool!!!

I don’t understand if my experiment was a success. The upper package has taken in air, but the lower one, it seems, has not. Well, tomorrow I'll see what happens. And if you buy at such a price, as on this site, then of course it is better to corrugated!

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