A.lenka
I thought about Wax caps when I watched this video of Yuri Gandalf
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jenyaiva
Quote: A.lenka
I thought about Wax lids
Great idea!
I wonder just how long the vacuum is held there, did anyone check it? At my bottom there is a silicone gasket, and sometimes when some crumbs get in, air passes through, but here it's just plastic. But for the price, of course, a fairy tale!
Shtebovich
Quote: Helen3097

I certainly didn't time it ... but still longer ...

oh, wrong target you chose for attacks comparisons These are different models. Substantially different.
the VC 350 also has: a chamber for collecting liquid, container for rolls, double seam, pulse mode, modes for wet and dry products, an integrated cutter. And all these things can be really felt, rather than comparing the inscriptions on the boxes and the air.

Compare then already comparable base models.
For example, CASO VC 9, CASO VC 10, ELLRONA, they are the same in terms of capabilities as Gochu, but cheaper.
Masinen
Quote: Helen3097

Yesterday I took my order of rolls to the House-Pack ... and there we tested the Gochu and Caso 350 vacuum sealer with a girl ... so I want to say .. I liked Gochu more .. both in design, and in price, and in terms of vacuuming speed ... it coped with the task faster than Caso 350 seconds by 30-40 ... but it costs twice as much ... !!! Does Gochu have a pumping rate of 18 l / min? while Caso has a pump capacity of 12 l / min .....

Len, there are those who are not happy with Gocha, but they simply did not write here.
I also think the comparison is not very correct. No offense
Caso 350 is a cool packer compared to Gosha

Look, Elrona shakes like crazy and many people don't like it, but on the contrary, people like it when they slowly and very carefully pump out the air.
Tatiana.k
A.lenkaThe video is interesting, but it remained a mystery to me: the bowls, apparently, are from the same series, so they must be identical, and a brown rim appeared on the orange one.
Helen
Quote: Masinen
Caso 350 is a cool packer compared to Gosha
yes, I think so too .. but I just shared information ... what I saw, I wrote it .... and not to hate CAS0 //
Masinen
Elena, did the right thing)
It's not about CASO,)
For example, if you compare professional packers of any company with Gosha, which would also be wrong, you understand))
it's not about the company at all)

Or, compare Bamix with economy class blenders
Or compare TM and the same economy class car)

This is from the category they are all good, but TM is TM))
You understand the chain))
Helen
Quote: Masinen
This is from the category they are all good, but TM is TM))
You understand the chain))
And then !!!
Natalia K.
Quote: Masinen
Vaughn, Elrona shakes like crazy
And I am completely delighted with Ellrona. For me, this is the coolest packer. In general, every sandpiper praises its swamp.
qliuka
Quote: Masinen

but TM is TM))
You understand the chain))

If we are talking about TM, then you do not know how TM is done?

A factory in China is being looked for, and goods are produced under the TM (no matter which one, I'm not talking specifically about packers now). And so the Chinese plant begins to produce goods (which it had been producing before, perhaps with some modifications under the required TM). That's the whole TM turns out. China is China, and TM can be any: even American, even German, even Russian.

In general, we usually just overpay for TM.

A branded dress is expensive why? Because the quality there is some kind of super-duper one and you can't sew it anymore? I beg you, they just take it for a brand, a name. That's all
Masinen
qliuka, let's not argue)
Anyway, everyone will remain unconvinced
qliuka
Quote: S-t
And all these things can really be touched

The main thing is that all these "advantages" are the real advantages of the device, and not marketing moves.

Sorry, I don't attack other brands of devices. But there is no point in a double seam, for example, well, there is really no point, if you can make one reliable and strong packer.
What is pulse mode, stop pumping air? with the ability to continue? is this in my packer too?
In general, I am in favor of paying for real help and real merit, not for marketing gimmicks, in order to increase the price of the product for the buyer.

What else can I touch there? Roll container? Well, this is a dubious advantage, since I saw in the photo how the packer looks with such a container - a whole hub, all the same, you will store all the rolls separately.

Well, I don't know, the choice is everyone's business.

In general, yes, I am that sandpiper who also praises his swamp)))))))
qliuka
Quote: Masinen
qliuka, let's not argue)
Anyway, everyone will remain unconvinced
No, let's argue)))))))))
qliuka
Song
Quote: qliuka

If we are talking about TM, then you do not know how TM is done?

A factory in China is being looked for, and goods are produced under the TM (no matter which one, I'm not talking specifically about packers now). And so the Chinese plant begins to produce goods (which it had been producing before, perhaps with some modifications under the required TM). That's the whole TM turns out. China is China, and TM can be any: even American, even German, even Russian.

In general, we usually just overpay for TM.

A branded dress is expensive why? Because the quality there is some kind of super-duper one and you can't sew it anymore? I beg you, they just take it for a brand, a name. That's all
qliuka, do not think that you opened our eyes ... We all know this as well as you do. We are also quite adults and not stupid people.

Quote: qliuka


No, let's argue)))))))))
What's the point?
qliuka
Quote: Song *
qliuka, do not think that you opened our eyes ... We all know this as well as you do. We are also quite adults and not stupid people

In no case, I do not say and do not think that someone is stupid here. And I don't want to offend anyone, really. In general, I am very glad that I got to this forum, I found so many useful things for myself. Well, I'm not only reading this thread, if I have time.

It's just when they say that, they say, a trademark is a trademark, well, it's true, this is explained as a little child. I just wrote that the trade mark is just a mixed bag. And that's not bad. You just don’t have to think that TM is a guarantee of some kind of super-quality. That's all.
Quote: Song *
What's the point?

Yes, I joked)) Po-shu-tee-la))) And, apparently, unsuccessfully))))))
Natalia K.
Quote: qliuka
No, let's argue
qliuka, and, what to argue then? I don't see any point in this. The topic will just be littered with all sorts of speculation.
Masinen
qliuka, and we are all happy on the forum

Our forum is a storehouse of information on all issues

little P.S. I did not write about the trademark or brand, but wrote about the class of technology
I gave a bad example)
You can then take BMW i Fiat)))
They are all good, but each for their money))

or like this:
After all, my Opel will never be a Mercedes, right? And I love my Opel, although he is not a Mercedes
qliuka
Quote: natalisha_31
qliuka, and what to argue that? I don't see any point in this. The topic will just be littered with all sorts of speculation.

Comrades))) yes I was joking)))))) I say zhezh)))))
qliuka
Quote: Masinen

qliuka, and we are all happy on the forum

Our forum is a storehouse of information on all issues

little P.S. I did not write about the trademark or brand, but wrote about the class of technology
I gave a bad example)
You can then take BMW i Fiat)))
They are all good, but each for their money))

I don’t know, I don’t know)) TM was written) so I continued this topic)))
Shtebovich
TM - thermomix and TM - trade mark. Each about his own))
marinastom
I, too, immediately realized that Masha meant him.
domovoyx
For a good brand, the quality is appropriate. This is not China's no-name. In production, quality is demanded from them, they don't have kickbacks ...
qliuka
Quote: Masinen
You can then take a BMW i Fiat

Well, here you can also develop the theme, the brands are German and Italian, but they can also gather in other countries. And the build quality of cars in their "homeland" is much higher than the build quality in other countries, for example, here.

In general ... if we are talking about cars, I have an example.

A couple of years ago I read one book and read something like the following. There are two brands Tayota and Lexus. They are produced at the same plant. Lexus and Tayota have SUVs, they are practically copies of each other. The seller of these SUVs had an interesting case. A buyer came to him and asked about the Lexus SUV, of which Tayota is a copy. To this the seller replies that the Lexus is out of stock, but there is a copy of this car - Tayota, they are almost the same. To this the buyer answers something like: "Nooooo, brother, the show-off is not the same."

That's all))) There is food for thought))
Jenealis
Ahhh, good to flood! Let's on the topic. and then notifications come, you open in anticipation of something worthwhile, and then .. Disgrace We did it yesterday, pickled in a bag, beauty! there is no smell, the ambassador is perfect, it is convenient to store, took it out, sealed it and back, very convenient! And in the order of delirium - no one tried to solder the packages for baking? Or do they not give in?
qliuka
Quote: S-t
thermomix

Did you mean the thermomix?)))))
Tatiana.k
Jenealis, And you can recipe: how much of what?
And then my husband loves this, but I do not, so I don't know how everyone does it

Song
Quote: qliuka
I read a book a couple of years ago
qliuka, on our forum there are topics about "chatting" ... and this topic is actually about vacuum packers.
Quote: Jenealis

Ahhh, good to flood! Let's on the topic. otherwise notifications come,
Chionodox
Jenealis, finally an exclamation from the side! In fact, I'm tired of reading worthless arguments. No longer a topic, but some kind of bazaar Evgeniya, and salted with the usual proportions for salting fish? Or is it necessary to somehow change the recipe?
Jenealis
Tatiana.k, we take the belly of the salmon, clean it, put it in a bowl, for 500 g of the belly, a tablespoon of Adyghe salt and tea sugar, pepper. Salt can be ordinary, but in the Adyghe grass, ants are ideal for fish, we always do it with it. I just used to salt in a bag, so I doubted whether it was necessary to change the ratio of salt in a vacuum. Well, that's all, solder and wait from 2 hours, we salted the night. Then they decided not to open the whole pieces on the sandwich A. There the ambassador is in the same ratio. I have never added sugar before, but in vain! tastes better with him.
Chionodox
Jenealis, so I got the answer to my question
Tatiana.k
Jenealis, Thank you, wrote it down.
Silly question: should you keep the fish in the room or in the refrigerator for these two hours?

Jenealis
Tatiana.k, in the cold, I generally lay in the freshness zone, there is about 0. I do not risk keeping the fish warm, I'm afraid ...
Tatiana.k
Jenealis,
Natalishka
I have Proficuk. Vacuum normally. But, if I were buying a vacuum cleaner now, I would buy Gocha. Since it just has all the necessary functions for Home use. You might think that every day we vacuum everything in such an amount that we need a built-in cutter and a roll inside, etc., etc.
And, what is this topic about CASO ???
And why, if someone praises another brand, they immediately start to "send" to another topic, like you will talk there. But they themselves start to "talk", go back to the page and read.
Even forum users delete messages from the topic to hide from the accusations of the cashiers. This topic is about ALL vacuum cleaners !!!
jenyaiva
Natalishka, I hope your post will not be deleted! ))
domovoyx
There is a discussion about all brands of vacuum equipment
Masinen
And I like everything)
And my Proftkuk is good and Kaso is good, they are different, but at the same time I can not call either one bad.
And I like Gosha for the design and that he is so green)

It's strange who deletes messages, there are no moderators here, unless the Chief)
domovoyx
In principle, they all perform one function.
Song
It seems to me that we, ordinary users, have nothing to argue about at all ... Everyone chose what they chose. Now use it. By and large, anyone is good for household purposes.All of them are designed to evacuate air and create a vacuum, then seal ...
So that - peace, labor, gum let's live in peace!
And then I'm tired of reading all this ...
Masinen
Helen3097,
Yesterday I took my order of rolls to the House-Pack ... and there we tested the Gochu and Caso 350 vacuum sealer with a girl ... so I want to say .. I liked Gochu more .. both in design, and in price, and in terms of vacuuming speed ... it coped with the task faster than Caso 350 seconds by 30-40 ... but it costs twice as much ... !!! Does Gochu have a pumping rate of 18 l / min? while Caso has a pump capacity of 12 l / min .....

here is her message)
Natalishka
I also thought that my Proficuk was the best: girl_red: Until I saw Gocha at my neighbor: girl_in_dreams: We received an order together. Only I am a cutter and a hose, and she is a vacuum cleaner. I will not write more. But she explained why I have such an opinion.
marlanca
Girls, I also changed my beloved Proficuk to Gochu ...., at first, of course, everything seemed not very convenient, there was no button for wet products, all the time I pour the camera into Gochu .... (very addictive) ... to pump out the air from the bag should be almost 5 cm. of the bag, whereas in the Profikushka 2 cm was enough for me ..., it is heavier than Proficuk ... ..
Guzel62
Girls, suns, honey, smart girls! Let's live in peace! I read the whole Temka, a lot of interesting and useful things. I have already put a chicken sous breast (although I used "dances with tambourines", that is, bags, film, bags with a zip lock, etc.), because there is no vacuum device yet.
So I wanted to ask a question (stupid, probably) WHAT TAKE A PACKAGER? I overlooked many of them. I can't stop. What are the criteria for choosing? Price, number of functions, company, pump performance, color, gifts, does the cat give an online store?
Explain to the "simple Russian woman" what to buy, since she REALLY wants sous-prominent products!
Masinen
Guzel62, choose whichever you like. Reviews are different)
Whom what)
The main thing is that it is convenient to work with it)
Guzel62
Quote: Masinen
The main thing is that it is convenient to work with it)
Masha! So the question is: HOW TO UNDERSTAND THIS? I'm going to order via the Internet, you can't feel it there?
Can (I apologize, of course) create some (type) table for all available packers (with functions, price, ease of use, weight, etc.), where everyone who wants (who has) brought their minuses and pluses. Such a sign would save many (stupid) questions from those who wish, like me, and help make the choice.
And then the brain is already swollen.
Sedne
Guzel, join the question
Masinen
guzel, Svetlana, you need to decide on the functions. What do you need?
Do you need containers and so that the hose can be connected?
Do you need a double seam?
Do you need an impulse?
Do you need a function for delicate or moist foods?
And determine the price, those ceiling, how much are willing to pay.
Helen
Quote: marlanca
beloved Proficuk on Gochu
but I like it Proficuk !!!!!!!!!!!! and Guchi suits me in design ... and Caso (pistol), I will not part !!!!!
Song
Quote: Helen3097

but I like it Proficuk !!!!!!!!!!!! and Guchi suits me in design ... and Caso (pistol), I will not part !!!!!
Girls, let's be friends with vacuum sealers !!!

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