Hairpin
I reread the whole topic and ... regretted the lost time.
1. The name of the topic itself is really incorrect. Even though it unconsciously pushes the foreheads of fans of two devices;
2. The first post indicates the desire to buy both devices at once ... It will take about three months to be able to use one of them. And three more - to get used to. And to buy both MV and airfryer at the same time ... For this you need to have Lomonosov ... or someone else terribly clever ...
3. We have separate themes for both devices. One could read them, analyze them and choose.
4. But open this topic ...

I repeat once again, all of the above IMHO and ... well, it's just a pity to spend both time and traffic on reading such topics ... Until you read it, you won't understand that it was necessary to strain in fig ...
X-tina
Hello cartoon owners! For a long time I have been looking at two kitchen assistants, a panasonic multicooker and a hotter airfryer, and I just can’t choose with pleasure I would buy both, but so far I cannot afford it
I have already read a lot about these units and I understand that there is a significant difference in the bottom
1) the airfryer drives the heat with a fan over the entire surface, and in the cartoon it is heated from below
2) the airfryer cooks longer
3) there is no fried crispy crust in the cartoon
4) in the cartoon, everything is prepared in the supplied Teflon crockery, and you need to pick up the dishes in the airfryer
5) in the airfryer, when you cook meat on the grill, the fat sticks to the bottom, and in the cartoon it remains inside the meat (well, or it is cooked in its own fat-juice)
6) fry, smoke, grill in the air grill
so the question arose what to take as I understood the airfryer also knows how to cook porridge, simmer food, pilaf, soups ... in general, everything that a multi airfryer can also can (also on the principle of a Russian oven), but he also can additionally know what he cannot multi or not? in general, I would like a unit in which you can make delicious porridge like rice and porridge with meat, vegetables, cook delicious rich soups, cook meat with a crispy brown crust but as dietary as possible, bake pies and other ruddy pastries (because I have the oven is completely useless; it distributes the heat unevenly and always burns at the bottom, and at the top it only grabs a little even if you put it on the very top) and it is also very important for me which unit makes food more dietary (less fatty) ... these are immodest questions , so what can you advise which will satisfy my requests more?
Celestine
3) there is no fried crispy crust in the cartoon

Lies and provocation

Look at the pictures from recipes (fried chicken, potatoes, etc.) and you will understand that this item disappears. This is more about baking, the top is not very browned, but what prevents you from turning the baking, the bottom is browned well enough ... sometimes too
leshik
I bought the multicooker recently, and having used it only a few times, I realized that the thing is very useful. In the morning she makes me milk porridge. Such delicious milk porridge can only be cooked in a large saucepan, but in a small scoop for one or two servings, milk porridge will not be so tasty, and half of the burnt-on walls will remain stuck.
As I understand it, the principle of a multicooker is quite simple - accurate temperature maintenance, thermal insulation from the external environment and a slight excess steam pressure over the cooking dish.
My advice to all those who think about it is that it is an essential device, like a bread maker, a kitchen combine or an electric meat grinder, but undoubtedly it will take its rightful place in the kitchen. People who are obsessed with diets and healthy eating will greatly simplify their lives.

X-tina, my opinion - if you choose between these devices, then I am for the cartoon. I will try to answer you some questions. All IMHO, of course.
1) heat in the multi is evenly distributed due to thermal insulation
3) a toasted crust is formed when the heat does not have time to penetrate into the dish. In the mult, the heat is distributed evenly throughout the entire volume, therefore there is no crust, but on baked goods, where the temperature is higher, it is possible and obtained
5) if you are worried about the remaining fat, then cook lean meats
6) you can smoke in an aerogrill only with liquid smoke. In the cartoon, I also think this can be done, for example, in extinguishing mode.
Shl meat with a crispy brown crust is not dietary
X-tina
how are you doing everything quickly! about the baking and golden brown of Celestine, you advise turning it over, by the way, it's a great idea thanks!
but about the crispy golden brown crust on the meat and dieteticity, I just thought once the meat on the grill is browned all the excess fat sticks down and turns out to be more low-fat, or am I wrong?
leshik
Quote: X-tina

but about the crispy golden brown crust on the meat and dieteticity, I just thought once the meat on the grill is browned all the excess fat sticks down and turns out to be more low-fat, or am I wrong?
I think that any fried and smoked cannot be called dietary
X-tina
well, fried with smoked is certainly not from the field of diets, but I just thought that it was baked there and the baked one doesn’t seem so scary ... well, or I just want it to be like that, maybe it’s from the area of ​​"diet" cakes
Lika
Quote: Leshik

I think that any fried and smoked cannot be called dietary
Any fatty meat cannot be called dietary, how not to cook it.

X-tina, any non-fatty meat cooked in any way, except for frying in oil, will be dietary and will not change its properties from where it is cooked, but the taste of the finished meat will differ significantly.
The multicooker and the airfryer complement each other, but cannot replace each other; for more dietary cooking options, the slow cooker is not enough on this list.
... in general, everything that a multi-airfryer can do too (also on the principle of a Russian oven),
Except for cooking in your absence, followed by switching to the Heating mode.

Buy what the soul lies more for and there is a desire, just buy the second unit later
lulyaka
Girls, what do you advise if there is NO oven at home?
I want to eat less fried
available hob, microwave, double boiler, family of 4
Hairpin
First a multicooker, then an airfryer.
zvezda
Hairpin!!! They gave me a try on MV ..... tell me what would be EASY to cook right away ... or just redirect to the right Temko
Malva
Well, Hairpin, well, you smashed it, dear! What did I do to you that you twisted my topic so much? Look how many people are asking this question! What is wrong here, that people are interested, face a choice and ask experienced people for help in this matter ??? Just a real hairpin, it hurts, but just like that ... You can see you have a lot of free time and having at your disposal this technique and free traffic, you still went into my topic and now you reproach me that you are not interested! We came here to communicate, ask for advice, you know, and not stab each other!
Hairpin
Star, excuse me, today is not an innocent day, I just got your post.
1. https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...ption=com_smf&topic=422.0
Well, in general, all the puddings and curds.
2. Timed porridge for the morning.

I went on to think.
Hairpin
Star! Fairy or not fairy, but where you think about it, there should be a list of techniques. Like mine. Well, I don't remember, you have a pressure cooker and a slow cooker. And my continuation depends on it.
We will consider it theoretically. You need to understand what you cannot do in a potted airfryer. MV closes sufficiently tightly, but the pots do not. Therefore, I started with cottage cheese and porridge.
Be sure to try the soups and those that you have already made in pots / jars. So you can compare the taste.

A!!!!!!!!!!!! Here's what else I forgot.I don't remember where the recipe is and what the name is, I write in my own words.
You peel the potatoes, cut them into quarters, put them in MV, and on top, either pieces of smoked bacon, or smoked meats. 50-60% of the volume. And you bet on Plov. Do you hear? On Plov! If, after the signal, the potatoes appear raw, stir it again on Pilaf.

And the last thing. Get some ice cream from the store, better a mixture. And on Plov.

I think these options will be enough for you to create an impression of CF.

Sorry to be late ...
Aunt Besya
Star!You know how delicious it turns out:

- salted onions lightly on baking
-throw a pack of "Hawaiian mix" there
- if there is a Bulgarian pepper finely chopped there
-a bit of water and for "pilaf"
-after the "squeak" -a little shrimp fried in oil with garlic, mix and taste !!!!!
zvezda
Thank you girls .... I am comparing between MV and Zepter pan. Yesterday I made chicken hearts ..... good, but longer. Today I baked a tangerine cupcake ..... I do not know .... the only advantage is that it is simple, but again for a long time, to be honest, this miracle pot did not impress, but I also did not cook much, so I cannot objectively say. I'll try your suggestions tomorrow.
Hairpin, dear, you probably already understood. that AG is just love ..... I don't compare it with anything .... but I don't have pressure cookers and slow cookers, I replaced all this with Zepter pots. And I love cottage cheese dishes .... I'll try .... and with potatoes, it's just in Temko, yesterday I accumulated a roll ... and I will definitely try frozen vegetables too. THANKS !!!!!
Hairpin
Quote: zvezda

that ah is just love .....

Nah ... it's your paranoia with schizophrenia. I have the same story with the slow cooker!
jelen
Quote: lulyaka

Girls, what do you advise if there is NO oven at home?
I want to eat less fried
available hob, microwave, double boiler, family of 4
in the new apartment I installed only a glass-ceramic oven, the oven is replaced by the Hotter Elite airfryer (and now there are airfryer with a delay!). In addition, I have a Multichotter and a Brown double boiler. I rarely turn on the stove. I turn on everything when children and grandchildren arrive. If we are left alone with my husband, then more often the airfryer, where I put all three dishes in ceramic pots at the same time, but I like the food from the multi-hotter better.
baked goods, baked chicken, smoked fish - only in the airfryer. If the pastries are baked in an airfryer, the first in a multi-hooter, then I put the side dish, steamed fish, meat in a double boiler.
mamaOlya
Girls, please tell me how the wiring can withstand such a number of electrical appliances? Especially if you cook meat in Ag and a side dish in a multit simultaneously?

And the second question, are you afraid to leave your electrical appliances on when you leave for work?

Of course, it's nice to come home from work in the evening, and even bring together the children from kindergarten and school (the second shift is at my daughter's), and dinner is already ready and hot. But! my husband is categorically against leaving electrical appliances on (I can put the bread maker on in the morning, my daughter will turn it off during the day), but we have a taboo on the washing machine, air conditioner and other equipment.
And what about the electric assistants in the kitchen? ..
sazalexter
mamaOlya Normal wiring withstands All modern devices have at least two-fold protection against overheating, those devices that have a heating element in their composition also have protection in the heating element itself. If the husband is so afraid, let him put the RCD + UZM-50 protection complex into the power supply system
Condo is generally like a refrigerator! I hope it doesn't turn off the refrigerator?
Hairpin
1. My introductory machine sometimes cuts out. My husband wanted to make it more powerful, but ... do I need it? Still, protection ...
2. Well, we usually have someone at home. In general, I'm not afraid to leave the bread maker, slowcooker or multicooker on for 2-3 hours. But for the whole day ... Well, except that the timer works. I won't risk leaving the slowcooker all day ... And the dishwasher ... But my dishwasher often works at night.

Conclusion... The technique should be taken out as much as possible at night.
Keti
What to buy first: an airfryer, a slow cooker or a bread maker if there is nothing?
I'd like to buy all three (or more) of the listed devices. What do you advise to buy in the first place (all this is costly for finances at once), and after reading different topics, I realized that these devices duplicate each other, that is, in each of these devices you can cook a dish that can be cooked in another one way or another appliance.
P / S: no household appliances yet (only a gas stove with a primitive oven).
I think that newbies will also be interested in this topic. After all, rarely does anyone have all 3 devices (or more). Thanks to everyone who answers.


To the moderators: I have not found a common theme in comparison of these assistants. If you had to write not here, transfer it.
richinna
First of all, I bought an airfryer hotter (a year ago), and I am very happy and it works for me every day (dries, bakes, smokes, cooks, fries and steams). Yesterday I ordered a bread maker that will bake my bread (finally I am ripe for homemade bread), and most importantly, knead the dough from which I will bake different buns in the airfryer and make lasagne))))))))))))) At the airfryer unlike a multicooker, there are more opportunities (in my opinion), but with a bread machine, I think you can wait, if you eat homemade bread - it doesn't matter ... you still listen to everyone, but do it your own way)))))))))))) )))) Good luck with your choice! Unsubscribe after purchase))))))))
Cook
It seems to me that you should decide for yourself what you need more in everyday life.

It is very difficult to advise.

It was purchased from me in this order:

1.airfryer

2.bread maker

3.cuckoo.
Cook
Quote: richinna

Is the cuckoo a multicooker? and why a cuckoo?)))))))))))) if it's not a secret ..... I'm still looking at the slow cooker with indifference ... the marinator attracts more, it will be next ... and we'll see)))) )))

The cuckoo is the Cuckoo pressure cooker. Hence the affectionate name - cuckoo.
obgorka_gu
I would also buy the first bread maker, although I myself first bought a cartoon and an airfryer, but my mother is a super dough mixer and there is always a ready-made dough at home
lega
Need to watch that just for you the most necessary at the moment. If there are children, then perhaps a multicooker first.
Rina
Quote: Keti

What to buy first: an airfryer, a slow cooker or a bread maker if there is nothing?
I'd like to buy all three (or more) of the listed devices. What do you advise to buy in the first place (all this is costly for finances at once), and after reading different topics, I realized that these devices duplicate each other, that is, in each of these devices you can cook a dish that can be cooked in another one way or another device.
P / S: no household appliances yet (only a gas stove with a primitive oven).
I think that newbies will also be interested in this topic. After all, rarely does anyone have all 3 devices (or more). Thanks to everyone who answers.


To the moderators: I have not found a common theme in comparison of these assistants. If you had to write not here, transfer it.
For your sake, let the topic remain.

The fact is that most members of the forum already have bread makers, so they don't have to make such a choice. There remains "airfryer or multicooker", and we have such a topic.

Let's take it in order: the airfryer (AG), the multicooker (MV) and the bread maker (HP) do not duplicate each other. These are fundamentally different devices.

HP has a fairly narrow specialization. Her task is to bake bread, knead dough, and sometimes help with baking a cake. It is out of competition if you eat enough bread (there are families where bread is almost never used, which means that CP is not needed). By the way, homemade bread is an important factor in a healthy diet.

AG, as far as I can tell (I have never dealt with him) is something like an oven in which you can not only bake, but also stew, cook, fry (the difference from stove-top cooking is that pots and pans are heated only one side).

MV is an electric pan with a different set of functions.There are several options for electric pans: from a simple rice cooker (cook / stew) to an electronically controlled multicooker (... eleven programs, setting the temperature, pressure, i.e., the function of the pressure cooker).

In general, you need to decide how your family's meals are structured, what dishes are prepared more often, when you have to cook and how much:
* only two adults or a family with a child / children
* eat only before leaving for work and upon returning (and there is no time for cooking at all, but you need to have food ready in the morning and by your return from work without your participation), or someone devotes enough time to cooking
* everyone eats the same food or everyone wants something different
* there are certain dietary restrictions or all stomachs like ostriches
etc.

For example, several family members, but everyone wants to eat only their favorite food, that is, you cannot feed such a family "from a common pot". Here AG and cooking in portioned pots are suitable.
In another family, they just like more that the dish was one for everyone - it somehow unites. And with any stew, an electric pot, that is, a multi, rice or pressure cooker, does better.
Keti
: hi: Thanks everyone for the answer. The fact that there is a topic about comparing a multicooker and an airfryer I did not see - sorry. But I saw recipes for cooking various dishes in a bread machine and casseroles and kebabs, etc. (so it can be used not only for bread). I have only recently learned about multi and have already become interested. But the airfryer has been of interest for a long time, but somehow in my city (Kharkov) it is not very popular and widespread (the Internet store is mainly), respectively, and the choice of multi and airfryer is not great (both models and company names). Therefore, I think what to buy first, and a simple option or with a lot of functions? But I want to buy a bread maker without fail (as a gift to my mother), but first you need to choose, master and tell then.
Rina
Non-bread dishes are prepared in bread makers solely due to the impossibility of cooking even in a conventional oven. You have an oven (whatever it is).
As for the bread maker - pay attention to the Orions, in particular, to 27th model... They are quite inexpensive, but users claim that the quality is very decent.

You can also pay attention to hybrid technology - multi-cook Binaton (bread maker + slow cooker), they have now appeared on the Ukrainian market (I saw in the METRO store).

In any case, based on my own experience, I would also advise you to get a multicooker. It will "cover" many needs in the kitchen with an emphasis on dietary nutrition.
mamaOlya
sazalexter, and what is CONDEY? Regarding the UZO + UZM-50 protection complex, thanks for the tip. I'll tell you.
Do not turn off the refrigerator

Hairpin, we also have machines. But a washing machine and a bread machine can work at the same time, a bread machine and an AG, a bread machine and a microwave oven work.
But the microwave oven and the AG are not friends, the light is already cut off ... I generally keep quiet about the electric kettle, 2kW, they are not friends with anyone.
Hairpin
Kandey is an air conditioner.

I am an electrician - a fool, so I'm afraid that the wiring might catch fire. In my life, it has already been lit twice. The wiring in my apartment is new, but ... I didn’t calculate the cables myself ... I don’t even know if they were aluminum or copper ... Therefore, I consider the machine as protection against wiring fire ...
zvezda
Ketiall the devices are needed .... let's come from the other side .... decide on the amount and I may be able to choose the best option for you ???
Victoria Tomanova
Quote: zvezda

I've been looking closely at CF for almost a year now, but I don't see the point in it .... especially when there are steam ovens and microwave ovens. I also faced the choice of AG or MV .... and after sooo long weighing all the same I decided on AG ini I do not regret a drop. For a month I have NEVER cooked soup on the stove, only in AG !!! And just as simple ... put everything down, pressed the button ... and that's it .... And the possibilities are a hundred times greater than in MV.
Multicooker or Airfryer?
When I didn't have a multicooker, I also thought why I need it when I have an airfryer, a bread maker, a double boiler, etc. etc. my husband gave it to me. I started to try, girls, it’s something if they took all my devices from me and told me to keep only one device. I would leave the multicooker, this is definitely the magic pot that cooks, fries, bakes and bakes. the stove and the oven are resting in the truest sense of the word
mamaOlya
We bought a multicooker for Christmas

Now the airfryer is not deservedly forgotten, it even took it to the balcony.
Since I took an inexpensive model of a grill, I do not regret it yet, maybe I will use it someday, grilled chicken, barbecue is a fairy tale. And I was also going to bake in it, because in the oven my bottom of the pies burns.
Hairpin
Quote: mamaOlya

And I was also going to bake in it, because in the oven my bottom of the pies burns.

It looks like you have a gas oven.
1. Place an empty baking sheet down. This will trim the bottom and top of the pies.
2. It is advisable to put a stone / brick down. This will align her more.

We have a topic about gas ovens and a burnt bottom ...
mamaOlya
Hairpin, yes, I have the simplest gas stove with an oven.

At the bottom there are 2 baking trays at once, I always put a bowl of water on one - it didn't help ...

About a year ago, I found out that they put ordinary tiles down, and in front of NG, my husband finally brought me old tiles and laid them on the lower baking sheet.

But after that I still did not bake ... I made biscuit in a bread maker and a slow cooker, and curd casserole in a grill and in a multicooker. Experimenting and tasting

I sing to the multicooker ODE, and every day I cook something, my husband already says: "Enough, you need to eat what is in the refrigerator!"
Malva
At the beginning of the post, I asked a question regarding what is better to choose. Apparently, I wanted both devices so much that both of them appeared). After some time of use, I answer my own and not only question: which is better? The answer is definitely MB !!! I like everything about her! The pastries are incomparable, especially the biscuits (although you don't mix the ingredients, it will still rise to the lid))). Pilaf, cereals, milk, meat rolls, tough meat, vegetables, steamed dishes, roasts, etc., etc. The list is endless. I love this smart girl! ... THANKS to everyone who highly recommended this miracle!
I do not want to offend the airfryer, but it is so bulky that you involuntarily leave it inactive. Although! Although, for everyone who loves fried "a la on the fire" - the very thing! When our grandpa comes to visit (he loves meat with meat in meat sauce, and for him the best fish is sausage), this is where the aerogrill enters the arena: wings, sausages, kebabs, steaks and everything else that can be processed) ... Of course, liquid smoke is a great helper, although it is harmful, it is tasty (and what is not harmful now?). This is how I answered my question
pfzw
Hello to all hostesses !!! I read the whole topic from the very beginning, but I cannot come to a single solution. Can someone help thread. I have long dreamed of buying an airfryer (when I get rich)), and then they gave me a certificate for 5 thousand to the Maximus equipment store. Well, I flew there, and there was only a small VES AX 999, and from the multicooker - Binatone BM-2170 (I don't really like the company) and Viconte VC-600. Here is such a wide selection))). Our family consists of me, my husband and a seven-month-old son, what to buy ..
Rina
I do not know what financial issues are with these gift certificates, so I speak only on the basis of the list of equipment.

Conveyor grill - definitely not as a first-order purchase.

Beanaton multi-cook. I have an analogue, but a German company. The German works great as a multicooker, but there seem to be a lot of complaints about the multi-cooker binaton and it is quite cumbersome.

Definitely take the viscount! And, if you have not yet acquired a bread maker for his company, you can even inexpensive. But they should be separate units.
The viscount option is good because, if necessary, you can take it with you somewhere where it is not possible to cook normally (to the country, to rest).This is a dietary food, the presence of a double boiler helps a lot (I warmed food for children in such a double boiler, and a side dish for an adult table was being prepared in the saucepan itself). Functionally, the viscount will be in demand for several hours every day, especially if small child in the house.

if there was an opportunity to spend this money in an online store, then even two viscount multicooker would be good. Believe me, few people stop at one multicooker
pfzw
Yeah, now I’m just reading the forum about the viscount. I think I will join them soon
Thank you very much again for your advice!
Caprice
Cool "torment" you have here Buy AG or buy CF? I have no such torment: MB is not imported to Israel anyway, and AG has already bought it. However, I still don't understand: why do I need him? So it is idle ...
Rina
Capricebut what about THIS?
Omela
Quote: pfzw

I have long dreamed of buying an airfryer (when I get rich))
pfzw , yeah, and I dreamed .. and bought ... now I took it to the balcony ... it didn't work out with him for 5 years lyuboff. And a slow cooker, a pressure cooker, a slow cooker are. Especially for a child!
Rina
Quote: Caprice

Cool "torment" you have here Buy AG or buy CF?
I would have suffered so much, too, if not ...
1.that I got to this forum,
2. I saw AG "live" at my relative. Well this odoroblu (AH, not a relative) needs a separate room!
Tanyulya
And I love AG, even the second wanted to bribe
Cook

And I love my AG. I use everything.
zvezda
I also love AG and friendship with him has developed (thanks to Tanyula), but first of all I agree with Rina 100% !!! And even when there is a small member of the family, I would of course take Binaton, you can make yogurt there too !!!! So don't hesitate !!!!
Rina
For yoghurt, I would buy an inexpensive yoghurt maker separately, for a small child it is better to cook yoghurts in separate (glass!) Jars.

Of course, I am not an indicator - I have both a yogurt maker and a multi-cook, but I still have sauerkraut in bottles on a battery).
Again, for me, a huge advantage of Panasonic and Viscount is their extreme compactness, compared to other multicooker. You can go somewhere with them, and a multi-cook is almost a stationary technique.
dopleta
Quote: zvezda

I would of course take Binaton, you can make yogurt there too !!!! So don't hesitate !!!!

No no! I have Binaton! Do not take! Yogurt does not really matter, it is difficult to adapt! As a slow cooker he is bad! Many of my friends had a broken temperature regime, the pan overheated, so the yogurt was curdled, and the bread was baked, and the multicooker would turn off endlessly. I do not advise .

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