Kara
And what kind of animal is this? Meaning that is, because the stove is only 1 year old.
Lenusik-sh
I looked at the Panasonic NN-GF574MZPE, it turned out to be huge for my kitchen. I took the Panasonic NN-SD361M, I just needed it without a grill. Now, as expected, I compare it with my previous stove from LG, which served me faithfully without breakdowns for 18 years and will still work for my husband at work. What can I say ... the miracle did not happen. Warms disgusting. Indeed, the edges of the dishes are very hot, and the portion in the center is cold. In the old stove I used to warm dishes only from Ikea, and now any. Moreover, the one from Ikea all cracked up and down from overheating, and a portion of food 300g in the center remained cold. For comparison - in the old portion, 300g was heated evenly in one and a half minutes, and in the new portion, in two and a half minutes, it remained cold in the center. Both borscht is heated equally, 400-450gr for 2.5 minutes. Defrosting is also the same in time and quality, defrosting a chicken weighing 1200g - 24 minutes, turning it over every 8 minutes, then it lay there for an hour forgotten. therefore, I cannot judge whether she herself was defrosted or the stove worked. The old microwave oven has a microwave power of 800, and the new one has 950. The appearance and assembly suit me, it works quietly, does not beep, I read bad reviews about the lighting, but nothing, like everything is visible inside day and night. We'll have to get used to it.
Lazy
The depth of penetration of microwaves into the product is no more than 3-5 cm. The magnetron is the same for all ovens and is located the same. Some of the waves hit directly on the product, some are reflected from the walls. The configuration and shape of the walls inside affects the reflection of waves inside and the heating depends on it. There will be differences in heating from different stoves, but not significant. Microwaves (I mean their length is about 10-12 cm) are the same for everyone, so I doubt that dishes heats up in one stove more than the same dishes in another stove. In your model, the lighting is from an LED (of course, it cannot be compared with an ordinary Ilyich light bulb), but it saves space, energy and durability. Inverter magnetron

Consumer feedback on the quality of heating is always subjective. To check, take 2 glasses of water of the same volume and heat one by one in the same mode. In the first case, place the glass in the center of the rotating table; in the second case, place it on the edge. Compare the heating of two glasses to the touch by the distribution of heat in the entire volume and by the heating temperature. So get used to the new stove.
Lenusik-sh
Quote: Lazy
All furnaces have the same magnetron and are located the same.

In the old stove on the right where the magnetron is, there is a cardboard-like thing above and it is large. In the new one, it is already twice horizontally and is located almost below. Therefore, the microwaves probably cannot penetrate the edges of the food to the center. In the old stove, it was stated that it distributes microwaves, although when I heat the liquid in a glass, it heats up at the bottom and top of the glass, and the middle layer is cold. Mixing helps. Especially if I warm kefir.
severyanka76
Rada-dms, also bought lg with charcoal shades, since there is no oven, I thought about baking in it. Tell me, if it's not difficult, on what programs and what are you baking? Thank you in advance!
Asya Klyachina
So coal heating elements are more for grilling than for baking. Usually baked on convection.
Marina22
Today I accidentally stumbled upon an "alien" microwave

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already someone has such? The reviews are interesting.
Asya Klyachina
Marina, discussed it somewhere, either in "Abaji to Buy", or in "Kitchen Trivia". We came to the conclusion that it is beautifully interesting, but expensive and not very functional.
LisaNeAlisa
Good evening everyone.Which microwave do you recommend without a turntable? Who has what?
Marina22
LisaNeAlisa, and what is the advantage of not having a turntable?
LisaNeAlisa
Quote: Marina22

LisaNeAlisa, and what is the advantage of not having a turntable?
You don't have to bother about the size and shape of the one you put in the microwave. It will not spin and touch the walls.
Anna1957
In all my microwave ovens, sooner or later, the inner coating begins to peel off. And I'm already scared to use it. The first was with a grill, then I bought the most primitive ones - only for heating. Now I will also buy a new apartment, but this question is annoying, because I don’t understand why this is happening and how to avoid it.
LisaNeAlisa
Quote: Anna1957

In all my microwave ovens, sooner or later, the inner coating begins to peel off. And I'm already scared to use it. The first was with a grill, then I bought the most primitive ones - only for warming up. Now I will also buy a new apartment, but this question is annoying, because I don’t understand why this is happening and how to avoid it.
Now there are many coatings without enamels, ceramic, for example ...
Ninelle
Anna1957, and stainless steel ?! She won't peel off, will she? It seems ..
LisaNeAlisa
Marina22, heating is uniform. We now have such a microwave, I really like it. But I will move soon, I leave this to my mother and look after myself.
Anna1957
Yes, you will have to take a closer look at ceramics and stainless steel.
Kestrel
And here I will ask
What interests in a microwave oven (Panasonic) is the Oven WITHOUT convection function, that is, models in which there is no convection - Panasonic NN-gs 597m MKV, Panasonic NN-DF383B and the like, compared with Panasonic NN-CS596SZPE
1) On the Oven function, the top of the baking dish from the top grill heater does not light up? (otherwise I met a couple of such reviews on the Internet, however, as a carbon copy, so I question their objectivity)
2) How critical is the absence of convection on baked goods in this (and similar PANASONICS)? That is, what exactly will be better for baking - as in CS596S - model with baked goods convection + top grill\ + steam as desired or model (there are several of them), in which the baking function is performed differently - upper grill + lower (hidden under the bottom) heating elements\ + pairs at will
3) Has anyone already deliberately baked in such models exactly on the Oven WITH STEAM HUMIDIFICATION? I am very tempted by the function of adding steam when baking, specifically for baking bread, will this combination (Oven + add steam on demand) replace the usual simple electric heating element with a sprinkler / frying pan with boiling water \ and so on.

PS
The question was, of course, the price (from hands) - I found a model WITHOUT convection almost 2 times (or even more) cheaper than the N N-CS596S with convection
Bes7vetrov
I baked with steam! In Panas 595. There is only one tk ten on top, then at a temperature of 220 * a loaf (high) could burn, covered with baking paper or foil. Bakes well. But ... The inverter is covered ... Now it's just an oven, auto modes do not work (but it was very convenient).
If you decide to buy, I can offer a glass tray and a baking sheet for 1500 for both.
In general, my husband ordered to put her on Avito thousands for the whole 2500.
Kestrel
Bes7vetrov,

what a good avatar you have (I have four of my own ... for now ..)


Thanks for the prompt reply and for the suggestion. I decided to buy for a long time, so I monitor Avito regularly for prices. I'm on social media now (a parasite, yeah) I found one option there, booked it, and I'm waiting for the money to be transferred, so I'll grab it (if I have time). As for the nasty ones, if anything, I'll keep in mind that the necessary ones will definitely not be superfluous. Have you thought of fixing yours? Do you know for sure that the inverter is covered, did you do diagnostics? True, I think this way, since my husband is an electronics engineer by vocation, he can fix everything (if he wants to). Since there are just a lot of Panasonic inverters on Avito and just the inverter ovens themselves (Panasonic) for analysis for s / h, when than just stoves for spare parts are even cheaper than individual parts.I've just been constantly looking at Avito lately, in parallel I noticed these ads.
Bes7vetrov
I did not diagnose, but all functions involving microwaves no longer work (((the price of the spare part will be equal to half the cost of the microwave (I also took it on Avito).
My husband doesn't want to bother ... And I really liked the micra, especially the sensory warming up (I like hot food).
To replace it (there is no stove at all), they took a staff of 28 eco. There is a simple microwave (I did not have time to get rid of it).
MomAnya
Quote: LisaNeAlisa

Good evening everyone. Which microwave do you recommend without a turntable? Who has what?
I subscribe to the question. I urgently need to choose, I read a bunch of information, I can't decide on the model.
Ikra
Girls! Sorry for the ridiculous question, maybe this has been discussed a hundred times already, but honestly, there is no time and energy to search in all the topics. I have had microwaves without a grill until today. And now he is. Panasonic GD-382S. The instructions say (or have I misunderstood?) That in the combined mode I can immediately put a metal grill grate in the microwave and cook on it. But is there the "microwave" program first, and then only the "grill" program? I'm afraid of something Who cooks like that, please tell me how to cook in the combined mode?
LisaNeAlisa
Irina, everything will be fine with the lattice. Place it boldly. I use combined modes to cook on a wire rack, the microwave perceives it normally. But it is better not to use other metal dishes.
Ikra
LisaNeAlisa, Thank you! Now I won't worry.
LisaNeAlisa
Irina, you are welcome))))
Ikra
LisaNeAlisa, and then such a question: and, for example, cutlets, on the wire rack in what? I have glass MV bowls with high and low sides. Will they splash?
Asya Klyachina
Irina, I have splashes, in a micro without splashing, if in an open vessel. I take a pot / glass with high sides and still the quartz tubes are splashed at the top. But when you make croutons with cheese on the "Grill" mode, then all the splashes on the pipes and at the top of the stove are simply burned out, then you just wipe it off and that's it.
LisaNeAlisa
Irina, I put it right on the wire rack. Yes, there is spray, I wash it off with steam. But if you close them, you will not get a grill. And the quartz crystal is easy to clean.
Ikra
Asya Klyachina, LisaNeAlisa, Thank you! I'll keep it on mind.
Keller
Girls are cute, I need your help. We bought a Panasonic NN-CS894B microwave and, in principle, I understand that this is an oven with microwaves, but I haven’t cooked in the oven for so long that I managed to forget. Everything was done with multicooker, a Philips air fryer and a cousin's delongue (except for potatoes, I couldn’t do anything in it), airfryer and other kitchen small things
Actually, what is the question, where to get recipes for it on our forum? In the last microwave, I only did heating, but with this one everything is new. Charlotte did not go up, apparently set it to the wrong mode, it was necessary with steam, and I just went to the oven.
There are instructions and recipes in Russian, but very scarce, I have a kitchen machine and then I have more manuals.
Thanks everyone in advance for the advice and guidance.
Asya Klyachina
Aida, type in the search box - recipes for the microwave, they will all come out. Well, or - we cook in micro, you will also see different topics.
Keller
Thanks to the search engine I used the first 3 days. She does not interest me like a microwave oven, except that touch heating (very convenient). More exciting are the steam functions, steam boost, steam convection, convection, grill, crispy grill, touch cooking. Apparently I'm looking for the wrong topic here, so I understand only about microwaves they dream of me, apparently I need to go into the ovens with microwaves (the class is more suitable))))
Thanks again
Asya Klyachina
Aida, no one will give you detailed recipes specifically to your model microwave oven with steam will not. I have a microwave oven with steam + oven, so what? Take the recipe and customize it for yourself. It is convection and convection in Africa (the fan drives hot air, nothing more), or I didn't understand you at all.
Keller
Thank you I will study
Ikra
Maybe someone already found out.The Panasonic GD-382S microwave has a maximum power of 950 W (1000 for the grill).
But there are several modes in the micro itself:
Tall
Medium high
Medium ... etc.
But nowhere in the instructions are there exact numerical values ​​for each mode. And now I have a new gadget for making cottage cheese and cheese in the microwave. And there it is recommended to heat milk at 800 W for so many minutes. Which of these modes should I set? At least find out what step they have - 100, 150, 200 watts?

In general, to be honest, Panasonic is disappointed with both the micro and the bread maker. Previous simple and rootless gadgets knew their business better. And the bread was excellent, and the programs were intelligible, and the microwave was sensory with precise values. You exhibit as much as you need. And then you twist the handle, as in antiquity, and then you screw it up - you need another half hour to understand the instructions. This technique was not for me.
Asya Klyachina
Ikra, I have: press the power level, W.
1 time high 1000 (950)

2 medium - 700
tall

3 medium 550

4 medium - 400
low

5 defrost 300
6 low 200
Ikra
Asya Klyachina, is this also Panasonic? So, his step is 150 W ... Thank you very much !!!
pushkar
Hello.
I have a Samsung CE118P.
Micra 1000vat. there is almost everything, but I use only warming up.
tried to bake potatoes did not like it. You do not taste a different product. Maybe I'm doing something wrong. Tried proofing bread, but 40 gr. that's a lot, you take out the dough, and it's hot.
There is also steam cleaning, I did not understand how and what.
Asya Klyachina
Quote: pushkar
Tried proofing bread, but 40 gr. that's a lot, you take out the dough, but it's hot
I also have 40 * C in Panasonic, I also don't use it. I just heat the oven in the oven mode (convection) to 80-100 * C, turn it off and put the dough in the form there for proofing. You have an oven (convection) mode in your oven without microwaves up to 200 * C, so use it for baking and baking - the same oven with convection and no aftertaste. Your grill is powerful, the simplest thing is to cut off a bar, on it a piece of butter and cheese - 5 minutes (you can choose the time yourself) and excellent croutons for coffee and tea.
pushkar
Quote: Asya Klyachina
I also have 40 * C in Panasonic, I also don't use it. I just heat the oven in the oven mode (convection) to 80-100 * C, turn it off and put the dough in the form there for proofing. You have an oven (convection) mode in your oven without microwaves up to 200 * C, so use it for baking and baking - the same oven with convection and no aftertaste. Your grill is powerful, the simplest thing is to cut off a bar, on it a piece of butter and cheese - 5 minutes (you can choose the time yourself) and excellent croutons for coffee and tea.
Convection mode, it's just an oven, so I understand.




Quote: Asya Klyachina
I just heat the oven in oven mode (convection) to 80-100 * C, turn it off and put the dough in the form there for proofing
If 40 is a lot, then how does warming up 80-100 help this.
plasmo4ka
Girls boys, hello everyone! I ask for your help. Micra LG with convection. Equipped with a glass plate and enamelled metal tray. The tray is slightly smaller than the plate, the bottom is not solid, but with a depressed ring-track 1 cm wide. In convection mode (just baking), as far as I understand, it works like a regular electric oven.

Question: how to use the plate and tray in this mode - remove the glass, install the metal or put the metal on the glass?

And what about the plastic slide ring under the plate? Will the ring / glass melt / crack when baking?

Can I use other metal (non-enamelled) molds? What to install them on: ring + plate + pallet + molds or ring + plate + molds?

Mirabel
Girls and boys! owners of cool microns! tell me! do they really justify their cost? Is it possible to bake normally on Prog-convection.
In my opinion, my mikra Samsung began to lose ground. Heats up for a very long time, cooks vegetables also longer than before.
I look after her for a replacement. I really want a small oven and thought, maybe 2 in 1 you can find a decent one.
and are irreversible micros really so convenient?




Quote: pushkar
There is also steam cleaning, I did not understand how and what.
and what they did not understand is a great thing.Pour water into a special tray and turn on the micra at full power for minutes. Then wipe everything and the micra shines.





Quote: Ikra
Panasonic is disappointed with both the micro and the bread maker.
AAAA and what did the bread maker not please with? and I can't get enough of her and I think all my previous ones did not stand next to her.
And I thought micra was also the coolest.
Waist
Quote: Ikra
To be honest, Panasonic is disappointed with both the micro and the bread maker.
Not in the subject, but I'm also wondering why the Panasonic bread maker did not please ??
Ilmirushka
"Hello everyone. Tell me, help! My mother-in-law gave the microwave to my husband ... almost 11 years ago. It's a pity to throw it away because everything works, but outwardly, you can't look without tears, but I ... I can't see her at all! Because the enamel of such a disgusting quality, in short, it is all shabby inside. And over time, everything has gradually adhered to this shabby surface and is not washed off by any means, even the amway. And every year this oil painting gets worse and worse. How to fight? Or throw it away and forget? HELP !!!
Verina Natalia
Ilmirushka, when my old lady, a low-power woman, almost always used as a breadbasket, began to spoil my mood completely, although she worked, gave it "in favor of an impoverished neighbor," and took a Samsung with convection. I am mastering. Not bad, but the kebab is still better in the airfryer.
Ilmirushka
Verina Natalia, yes, I have already cultivated in myself the decision to part with her without any regrets. But since microbes have entered our life so tightly and it is still more convenient with it, then I will take an already indestructible stainless steel, and I need a minimum of functions, unfreeze and warm up. By the way, I incorrectly wrote the term of our work, she honestly plowed for us for 16 years, although the sellers themselves say it is 5-7 years old
Wiki
I had it with a stainless steel inner coating a long time ago, when it was still only fashionable here (I bought it somewhere in the early 90s). Every speck was visible. Luckily for me, it broke. I bought a Panasonic inverter without a grill and other bells and whistles. There the inner coating is gray enamel, like granite. Has not peeled off anywhere in 10 years, it washes very well (and if you have not washed where, you cannot see anything)
This (photo from the Internet)
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My daughter was white - she was all peeled off. This year I gave her a new one. Also Panasonic, only smaller and also with gray enamel.
Ilmirushka
Quote: Wiki
I tried to wash it. Every speck was visible ... I bought a Panasonic inverter without a grill and other bells and whistles. There the inner coating is gray enamel, like granite.
Wiki, I do not get rid of some minimal spots, I do not suffer from perfectionism in this regard, I wiped it dry - what other spots should remain there? And about, as you say, gray dark gray, blue enamels are not enamels, they are bio-ceramics, they are also very durable and not very time consuming to maintain. My friend has this, with my micro - the same age, so it's scary to show mine ashamed, and she's still fine. The enamel is white, the one that has peeled off in your daughter's microscope.
Kara
I have a Samsung with the same coating, 7 years old it hit like new. It washes perfectly without any amway with ordinary microfiber.
Here she is, my beauty.

Microwave ovens (discussion of models, modes, features)
Microwave ovens (discussion of models, modes, features)

Even the stickers on it are as good as new, only the worn coating on the opening button gives out my old lady.

And before that there was a white panas with a grill. How did I hate her? A huge coffin, figs, wash this heater from above, with such relief I got rid of it




Quote: Ilmirushka
it is bio-ceramics, it is also very durable and not very time consuming to maintain.
Ooh, they wrote at the same time. She is, bio-ceramics
Ilmirushka
Quote: Kara
Here she is, my beauty.
Here, Ira, and I decided to take one. And not only DO NOT wash the enamel, but not even hear the word!

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