Ilona
Quote: Asya Klyachina
And for a long time I chose a new microwave oven, I messed everyone up, I bought a Panasonic NN-596S with steam and convection, especially the presence of steam for me. She was also afraid that the bottom of them would burn out ceramic, as they wrote. Everything is fine so far, you just need to keep the bottom of the stove without a turntable clean, for this there is a glass tray there all the time (you never know what can run away). More details: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...tion=com_smf&topic=2300.0
Girls, should you put all the plates, etc., not directly on the bottom of the stove, but in a glass tray? I'm talking about Panasonic NN-CS596S. I bought Used there only the stove itself, and of course there is no tray, no baking sheet, no grate ... you can't use it without a tray at all? And where can you buy additional components?
GuGu
Ilona, Answered in another topic .. without a glass tray you can not use .. I think you can buy or order components in specialized departments for the sale of Panasonic equipment, I know there is on Gorbushka .. look at the Panasonic website ..
Ilona
Natalya, is it impossible without a table just because something might spill or not at all? That is, you can put a plate of pasta, for example, to warm up, there is nothing to run there?
GuGu
Ilona, no way ..., the seller said so, and why, I did not go into details ..
sola19
Girls, help. I can not find information about the microwave oven with the built-in air fryer DAEWOO KOC-8HBFM. There are no reviews anywhere. I wanted to buy .. but what is it?
dopleta
sola19, sorry, I was too lazy to open information on this microwave, because I have a question. Almost all modern stoves are equipped with a convection function. An air fryer works on the same principle. So what is the advantage of the stove you mentioned?
Ilona
but really?
TatianaSa
Girls, only you can save me from the torment of choice. My microwave oven almost burned out the other day. I suffer. I need to take a new one, of course, what is new and TO TAKE-brings untold pleasure But which one to take ??? Please advise.
Qween
Tatyana, our Hairpin I chose a microwave and took Panasonic, which I am very pleased with (for example, I wrote that pizza is tastier than in a pizza maker). Read above in the topic about her Panasonic, perhaps now even newer models have been released.
Ninelle
Good morning! Well, tell me please, I threw out our microwave, because my mother-in-law showered me with articles about the terrible harmfulness of microwaves ... Now my husband is moaning, and my mother (my) generally suffers without a microwave, which they need, well, at least for warming up. I would have already bought it, but microwave hazards are firmly embedded in my head. Mom says that it is not known what is more harmful, to heat on the stove, or in the microwave, so I hung up. Please tell me something reasonable about this.
dopleta
I'll tell you now Ninelle, I’ll just find the answer in another topic! Found it! Read HERE, and below through the post - see VIDEO .
Hippolyte
Ninelleas a person with the highest technical responsibility I declare to you
if the mikruha is serviceable, then there is no point in being afraid of waves
automation switches off the radiation if the door is ajar
and during operation, the screen protects from waves, and there are no radiation leaks and cannot be

regarding where it is better to heat - in mikruh, due to radiation, the liquid inside the heated body heats up
and when heating in a frying pan, for example, food products of heating oil will definitely get to you

use mikruhu and don't worry
this is a really big breakthrough for everyday life that came from space technology
Olga
Quote: Hippolytus

Ninelle,
if the mikruha is serviceable, then there is no point in being afraid of waves

And how to understand if it is serviceable? Something lately it seems to me that my microwave has begun to heat up worse. So I have to throw it out? especially since she is already 9 years old. Should I be afraid of her microwaves already?
sazalexter
Quote: Ninelle
Well tell me please, I threw out our microwave
It is you who got excited about the harmfulness of the microwave as Teflon and yeast is greatly exaggerated by the media and about scientific fabrications,
I completely agree with Larisa
sazalexter
Olga, Magnetron (main emitting element) has a limited resource like any lamp. Repairing most microwave ovens is not cost-effective, so change to a new one. Pre-check if there is a decrease in voltage in the microwave network to this very sensitive.
Hippolyte
Olga, the fact that it began to warm up worse after 9 years of use is quite natural
most likely, the magnetron fails (it is necessary to clarify, but the magnetron is the most common failure with such symptoms)
few people have mikruha for 9 years
but external radiation is not affected by the failure of the magnetron
if you break the glass in the door of the mikruhi, then there are chances of catching radiation while the mechanism is running
in other cases, operation, as far as I know, is safe
sazalexter
Quote: Olga
Should I be afraid of her microwaves already
If the door fits tightly, there are no fat deposits, carbon deposits in the place of seals, do not sit with it in an "embrace", you do not need to worry.
Olga
Alexander, Ippolit, thank you for your answers. Thank you.
Ninelle
Thanks to all! What do you recommend? Which one to take?
Song
Quote: Olga

she is already 9 years old.
Yes, it’s just time for her to retire for seniority.
Ninelle
Song*, or keep in a shed, and the descendants will drive them for crazy grandmothers, like antiques, although I am almost the same old woman, but in perfect condition (I worked very little) I sent me into exile
julia_bb
Quote: Olga
So I have to throw it out? especially since she is already 9 years old. Should I be afraid of her microwaves already?
Here, a similar situation, mine, however, is only 6 years old, but the work became worse, especially the liquid began to warm up more slowly.
Interesting information
sazalexter
Ninelle, Look at the displacement and at the price, cheaper, better IMHO bells and whistles are not needed.
Ninelle
sazalexter, and the cool Panasonic, about which Shpilka spoke, is what she is good about. do not know?
Lucha
Ninelle, Panochka has been working for me for 9 years. I have never used the sensor heating. What I like very much is the ability to use separate convection heating and combi mode. Here this weekend the ten in the oven burned out, the fish was baked in a micron on convection. And so the pie, the pizza is also in the micron, heats up faster. Even if the magnetron fails, I will use it as an oven.
sazalexter
NinellePanasonic makes cool mics, expensive, durable, well made inside, repaired by himself several times after power outages. And so in life they are simply not killed. But who needs bells and whistles now?
I have had an LG with a grill for 10 years, I have used the grill a dozen times, well, not a grill
If you have to buy, I'll take a push-button with convex buttons (not a quasi-sensor) and without bells and whistles.
Ninelle
Alexander, Thank you so much! I just liked the hinged door and many other things in Panasiki. I'll see, then I'll figure out where to stick it ...
Biryusa
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igorechek
Quote: sazalexter
If you have to buy, I'll take a push-button with convex buttons (not a quasi-sensor) and without bells and whistles.
I bought a third microwave. I will share my impressions, All were Panasonic. The quality of all is excellent. After 10 years, I ruined the first one myself (otherwise I would have worked until my retirement age of 60), the second I sold to a worker (I bought it with the principle that it would have warmed up). So here:
- be sure to buy an INVERTER microwave
- power (output, not consumed, excluding the grill, if any) is more than 900-1000 W.
The inverter works more "softly" and economically. A Simple microwave turns on and off the magnetron-heater periodically - when cooking, food either boils or is not cooked at all.This affects both the quality and the cooking time, and what is unpleasant - when heating the dishes, dried circles remain on the plate.
The second MV was max. out. power of 700 watts. Not bad, but long. When you warm up the soup, the difference of 2–3 or 4–5 minutes is very significant. And if you are not alone ...
I don't think a grill is needed for a small MV, in any case I did not use it.
Now the same Panasonic is releasing many interesting new products - with steam, without a rotating table, with convection, that is, a complete replacement of the oven. I don't know, the reviews are different.
My opinion is. A good owner has screwdrivers, hammers, screws ... of different sizes. Likewise, the home (and you eat and want to eat well many times a day) should have a lot of cooking utensils. Therefore, in my small-sized kitchen I have 3 ovens of different sizes (each for its own cooking, all are involved), but so far only one microwave for 23 liters. So I'm looking at the new products of Panasonic. In any case, it should be inverter and with a capacity of about 1 kW.
Asya Klyachina
Quote: Lucha
I have never used the sensor heating.
And for me this is a very convenient function, especially to heat liquids to the temperature you need, milk for example. Steam is good too, defrosting with steam is much better than without. But I almost never use a quartz grill. In Panasonic NN-596 S, it just bothers me to wash the top of the stove, this quartz grill is under metal wires and gets in the way, there are always stains on the quartz tubes and between them, you can't wash them at all. And the "self-cleaning" mode of the oven is complete nonsense. When I chose it, I knew that there would be problems with it. The stove bakes normally, I bake everything in it, because in the gas oven my bottom is on fire, the top is white.
igorechek
That's why I wrote. that for cooking "fatty" dishes it is still better to have an ELECTRIC oven than a super-microwave. It will be easier to leave. Without belittling the dignity of Panasonic, I think. it is better to have Panas for heating and a full oven separately.
Asya Klyachina
Well, it is at 596 that the grill is so inconvenient under thin wires that it cannot be washed. How unsuccessfully it was done, if not for this, then no trouble. But the Panasonic NN-C785 J camera is all made of stainless steel, the grill is hidden, it is easy to wash it, but the stove is without steam and with a turntable. I rushed between these models. But the steam won, because I really wanted to know what kind of stoves they were with steam, but without a turntable.
fabiani
People help please! Send someone to the soap or give a link where you can download the instruction in Russian for panasonic nn-df 383! I've already covered the entire Internet, I can't find it!
Asya Klyachina
fabiani, 🔗
Erhan
And yesterday in the Siemens brand store they authoritatively told me that there are no inverter microwaves, which I confuse with convection.
lega
Quote: Erhan
in the Siemens brand store
Of course they don't. So far, it seems, only Panasonic makes inverter models, how does the Siemens seller know about this?
Erhan
Now he knows. But he didn't seem to believe me.
And today I ordered the Electrolux microwave oven. I needed the simplest model for cooking vegetables and heating food.
NаStyа
I have the simplest model (two mechanical control knobs), I am unhappy (((I don’t do anything supernatural in it, even the usual dishes are either too hot or cold. I really want a button model, advise what to choose from? New products are not needed much, quality is more important
Fields
Girls. Where do we discuss stove breakdowns and repairs?
amargar
Quote: Fields
16:14
I am also very interested in this question. the current Panasonic NN-DS592M has problems with sensor heating, and the previous one has a control panel out of order, half of the buttons are no longer sensitive. so that Panasonic is not so good.
Fields
The service said that the inverter. Their most expensive part always breaks. How to check?
INGRID *
Who has a Panasonic NN CS 894? We need instructions and a recipe book in Russian. I would like to know about her reviews. Thank you.
Yulia155
Tell me who has a microwave! The plastic cover for the micro should stand on the swivel disc and rotate with the disc, or stand still and completely cover the swivel disc, while it rotates inside?
valushka-s
Julia, the lid should cover the warmed-up food, it can lie on a rotating microwave plate, if the plate-capacity is small, or on a large plate with a heated dish, and naturally it will spin (if it is ordinary microwave ovens. )
fabiani
Please tell me the owners of Panasonic NN-DF383B. Who put the glass baking dish directly on the bottom or should it be on some kind of support?
shashina
I have a slightly different model, the set includes a glass pallet (as I understood that it is instead of a plate that is in ordinary stoves), I put all the forms on it, but I don’t put it on the bottom
Lenusik-sh
I was going to buy a new microwave. I read here about the fact that microwaves now work no more than 9 years, and somehow it became sad. My cheap mechanical microwave has been working many times every day for 18 years. Tired of, no longer fits into the interior. Recently I discovered that a little of the inner coating had peeled off in one place. But heats up quickly, defrosts too. For relatives, the heaped up heats up much slower and not evenly. About a year ago, I was also trying to buy a new one, but a bunch of bad reviews stopped me. Now doubts plague me again. The situation is this - my husband needs a microwave to work and a team of three people wants to chip in to buy it. Moreover, most likely they will buy used on Avito. I am thinking of giving them my veteran microwave, and buying myself a new one. Otherwise, my old lady is not going to die herself. The toad strangles to buy more than ten thousand, especially since they serve so little now, but those that are cheaper do not impress me. I want an inverter, it's decided. So far I like this option - PANASONIC NN-GF574MZPE. If anyone has one, please write how it works? Where are the vents? What makes you happy or annoying? Is her plate spinning? Is it worth the money? I basically need to warm and defrost in it. Is it true that heats food evenly? Many in the reviews write that such microwave ovens heat dishes more than food. I have such dishes that heats up faster in my microwave than food - these are ikea plates. The rest of the dishes are heated only by food.
Rada-dms
I have an LG with charcoal shades. I'm very happy! I bake, fry, reheat, a steamer with a metal dome was attached to it, a crisp plate. It cooks very evenly, I judge even by defrosting on an automatic program. The plate is spinning, picking up the temperature to 230 instantly. All summer I baked pies, dried teas, steamed, grilled. The model is expensive. We got it after we passed Panasonic and a cool one, similar in functions to Whirpool. Not satisfied with the quality of baking and defrosting.
Kara
And I have a Samsung. Recently defrosting - out of hand. Inside there is still ice, outside it is already prepared. I defrost the meat on "berries", and the same garbage
Rada-dms
Kara, Irish, can you change the magnetron? Or is it no longer meaningful?

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