Svetlenki
Quote: Twig
I played a portion of Ivan-tea

Yes, tea, they say, stationary not all meat grinders withstand. I think this was most likely the reason.

caprice23Natasha, by the way, you cannot wash an all-metal meat grinder in a dishwasher. More precisely, it is possible, but the aesthetics will suffer significantly. I'm just talking about it. For some, this is one of the decisive disadvantages.
caprice23
Quote: Svetlenki
Natasha, by the way, you cannot wash an all-metal meat grinder in a dishwasher. More precisely, it is possible, but the aesthetics will suffer significantly.
Thank you, Svetik, yes, I know. But you can't put my plastic one in the dishwasher either, her priest is silumin. So that the one that hand wash this one.
But for now I think. It didn't seem impatient, but the reviews on it beckon.
Girls, owners of the rub, remind, please, what are you using it for? And then it's time for blanks on the nose, you need to be fully prepared
Rubbing tomatoes is the only thing I have tried. Boiled apples, pear. Fresh can not?
Berries. What kind?
And what else? I have some kind of stupor.
Svetlenki
Quote: caprice23
Girls, owners of the rub, remind, please, what are you using it for?

I will wait and listen carefully. And then I have refused so far from buying this set (meat grinder and rubbing). I will definitely not rub tomatoes on the trade wind. The store suits me. And the quality of the tomatoes here is not at all ah.
Sofita
caprice23, the meat grinder attachment is nevertheless invented for a lung without meat veins, and then for one meal. It's a pity to kill the mixer for the mince. I also really wanted to, but then they suggested that the electric meat grinder for difficult veins has a reverse function and a walking play, which makes it easy to turn the meat. And there is an electric meat grinder compared to a penny mixer, you can buy a small one without any extra attachments. But if it deteriorates, it will not be a pity, there are a lot of them in stores. But the mixer is still a pity and expensive, it is better to use it somehow for its intended purpose, so that it lasts longer.
Tanyusha
And I use a meat grinder very often and eat more than once and not when there were no problems. As a rule, I turn 2 kg at a time. And I mix the minced meat with a mixer, replacing the meat grinder with a kneading attachment.
Sofita
Tanyusha, I can easily scroll without problems even every day, but the mixer is killed by this, it does not have a luffing device for shock absorption, like in an electric meat grinder (this is when it is difficult with veins, a film with fat, etc.). So in nozzles for a mixer this simply is not, the nozzles are fixed rigidly with a screw. Meat grinder attachments for very delicate use were invented, and 2kg / every day is almost homemade. Well, the mixer is yours and it's up to you how much you don't mind it. For soft vegetables, dough, juices, less load goes - the attachments from the point of view of practicality are justified in comparison with the attachment - the meat grinder. And then the cost of an electric meat grinder in Moscow and not only costs the same as the nozzle (you can even find it cheaper: in METRO in the winter there were from 2000 rubles) and is it worth then a mixer for 60,000 rubles (in Moscow in stores) to ruin because of minced meat.
Svetlenki
Quote: Sofita
but the mixer is killed by this

In general, if you have a stationary meat grinder, I will probably refrain from buying this attachment. She was interested in me mainly for the process of making minced meat for meatballs, changing the nozzle to a drum grater and grating vegetables for sautéing. Well, knead the minced meat with the K attachment, although I like it better with my hands, but nobody canceled laziness

Sofita, thanks for the explanations about the backlash device.
Sofita
Tanyusha, and who will prevent you first to wind the meat into the bowl from the mixer in the electric meat grinder and put the same bowl into the mixer and mix the minced meat with the mixer, the load will be several times less.Wash both the nozzle from the mixer, that from the meat grinder, the parts are the same (5 minutes with hot water under the tap), even these parts look almost the same. It's just a separate motor and much faster at least 10 kg of meat (the instructions say 85 kg for how many minutes). And lattices from the smallest, medium and large for manti (instead of manual cutting), the quality and speed of cooking minced meat is very different from the nozzle for a mixer. I hope I explained the difference correctly. And I am very grateful to those who explained all this to me in time.




Svetlenki, I was on a visit and they explained to me the whole difference and showed and twisted both there and there to see the difference, the attachments themselves have so-so knives and the speed too (there are only two knives) for persuasiveness, if there is an opportunity to consider them in the store. In a meat grinder, they are much sharper and still steel. In the meat grinder it is much faster, the main thing is there is a reverse reverse (return the meat if it is stuck) for the meatballs there is a very small mesh - the diameter is like a match head (in the nozzle only medium and slightly larger.) Well, I explain this for details.
Svetlenki
Quote: Sofita
the attachments themselves have so-so knives and the speed too (there are only two knives)

So I was aware of this from the very beginning. There are two captivating factors here: 1. one machine is on my small-sized work surface, that is, after grinding the minced meat, there is no need to wash your hands and take away one car, bring another. Not far, but still annoying. 2. A bowl of kitchen does not fit under my meat grinder, such a radish

But, back to our rams, more precisely to the question caprice23, Natasha

Who processes what on the screw, please respond!
Twig
Sveta, on the screw nozzle, which is put on the meat grinder?
Red and black currants, raspberries, tomatoes - I have praised and admired this topic more than once already.
And then I pour the juice from the red currant into ice bags and into the freezer - I get an excellent sauce and dressing for marinating fish, meat, salad.
The apple juice comes out with pulp. Pear - I mashed potatoes, I wanted juice, but I had to cook jam.
I think that this set (meat grinder + auger) is worth having at home, but you don't need to understand that you don't need to rape Kitchen with a meat grinder. But quickly grind the minced meat for one or two from light meat and then wash it in the dishwasher - it's just a pleasure.
I also have a separate meat grinder for other occasions, twist tea or sinewy meat.

True, Kitchen lives in my dacha, there is something to recycle. For a couple of tomatoes or a glass of currant-raspberries, I would not bother with a screw.
caprice23
Veta, thanks, a little in my head fit.
Are the apples and pears only boiled? Or raw, too?
Twig
caprice23, Natasha, I processed raw.
My pear was not juicy, so it came out puree. If it was crunchy, it would make juice.
KitchenAid Mixer
I made currants last year.
Then in bottles and in the freezer. True, I did not use everything. It is very tasty to add this juice to preservation instead of acid and vinegar. Red currant tomatoes - straight ah! Pouring tastes better than tomatoes.
caprice23
Quote: Svetlenki
In general, if you have a stationary meat grinder, I will probably refrain from buying this attachment.
I also had a separate meat grinder and grinded the meat well. Even, frankly, better and faster. But how reluctant was to get her every time, then clean up: - And she screamed so loudly, it's a terrible horror! Kitchenovskaya, of course, will be weaker, but it also copes well with its duties (and metal, they say, is even better). But I don't twist more than 2 kg of meat at a time. And it happens a couple of times a month.
And I immediately gave the old meat grinder to my mother and I do not regret it. But the place was vacated)))




Veta, yeah, the mustache is understandable, thanks. What's this in the photo? Currant?
Can you make juice from carrots, for example? Or will it be too tough for our rub?
Twig
Natasha, I'm afraid of carrots. It's a pity the mixer, there will already be a large load.
caprice23
Sorry. Veta, Sprig, do you have a juicer-attachment by chance? Not auger, but different. I don’t know what it’s called correctly?
P.S. Not what, that I'm on "you"?
Twig
Centrifugal? Does Kitchen have any?
There is a screw, it is cool, it cuts into pieces when pushing. But somehow I did not grow together with her. I used everything a couple of times. Somehow there are too many parts, collect and wash. And I'm afraid to break the mixer again. It seems to me that the nest is under heavy load.
caprice23
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They have one like this.
Twig
And, well, it's auger, yes, there is one, and wrote about it.
The price tag is unjustifiably high, a stationary separate device is better for this money.
caprice23
I realized thanks
Tanyusha
Sofita, I do not have industrial production, but once a week to scroll 2 kg of meat, I think there is nothing terrible. I specially bought a nozzle to give up the meat grinder (I had a Panasonic, I gave it to the children). And Kitchen was specially bought so that everything was in one bottle (I mean attachments), and not a bunch of different devices. Well, in principle, to each his own. Someone buys it to admire, and I have it for work.
caprice23
Tanyusha,
Svetlenki
Quote: Tanyusha
Someone buys it to admire

Nuuuu, this is somehow too cool. You know, I bake bread every other day, but I never knead and will not knead it in Kitchen. Because, in personal opinion, he does not do it very well and is not created for this. That is, we have different views on its use, but this does not mean at all that I admire it. When it comes to pastry, it works.

Quote: Tanyusha
I specially bought a nozzle to give up the meat grinder (I had a Panasonic, I gave it to the children). And Kitchen was specially bought so that everything was in one bottle (I mean attachments), and not a bunch of different devices.

I would like it that way, but he will not take cutlet meat in the meaning of this phrase from the times of the USSR. And I don't need cutlets from the tenderloin. They will not taste good.

In general, everyone remains unconvinced, but I was a little offended by "admiring". I don't admire at all
caprice23
Svetlenki, Svetochka, you are of course right, it is hard for her to cope with cutlet meat. If you twist the chicken or fish, then no problem at all. Or the same clipping. But I usually buy a neck for cutlets with lard. Twists, but harder to her than my stationary. The main thing is not to shove many pieces at a time, wait for the previous one to scroll. Longer of course. It is necessary to adapt to it. But despite all this, I like her. Quiet, lightweight. Not like the one my detached
Svetlenki
Quote: caprice23
It is necessary to adapt to it. But despite all this, I like her. Quiet, lightweight.

caprice23, Natasha, yes, all this is clear! Me, too, is the "quietness" and the pleasant sound of the engine in Kitchen that are very seductive. I hate noise. There was a marcato atlas with a motor. I got mad at him. I didn't use it, because even the thought of that engine sound horrified me. At Kitchen, I enjoy using the pasta attachment.

And the meat must be frozen. This, in my opinion, will help keep the mixer in good health.

Quote: caprice23
Not like the one my detached

My stationary grinder is even quieter than kitschen. So I don't have this problem, there's nothing to complain about
caprice23
Quote: Svetlenki
And the meat must be frozen. This, in my opinion, will help keep the mixer in good health.
This is yes. I turned the meat for the last time, and before that I froze it a little. What a beauty! The meat grinder did it for one or two! Just freezing is not always time.




I read about a metal meat grinder, it is not the meat that is frozen there, but the meat grinder itself is put in the freezer for a short time and the meat then scrolls with a bang. This option seduces me very much. Much more convenient than freezing meat.
Svetlenki
Quote: caprice23
and the meat grinder itself is put in the freezer for a short time

Well, this is a little extreme in my opinion. At low temperatures, the metal becomes more brittle. I don't remember the details from the school curriculum, but it would be more correct to freeze the meat.
Loksa
Quote: Svetlenki

but it would be more correct to freeze the meat.
+1000
caprice23
Svetlenki, Loksa, I don't know, that's how they write and do it. For what I bought, for what I sell
Twig
Svetawhat kind of meat grinder do you have?
Svetlenki
Twig,

I have a Jupiter 885 meat grinder
KitchenAid Mixer

Rita
Quote: Svetlenki
I am also very attracted by the "quietness" and pleasant sound of the engine in Kitchen.
Disordered the soul)). Immediately I remembered why I wanted her. But there is a loud Kenwood.
Twig
Rita, they just have different voices. I wouldn't say Ken is loud. Decibels are probably the same.
Is there an application that measures decibels? I could compare.
Found it. Tomorrow I'll go to the dacha, I'll make it stand still.
Rita
Twig, thanks, I'll wait for the comparison!
Sofita
Svetlenki, I have a separate meat grinder generally quiet (I can easily wind up any amount in minutes and with any veins at night), too, for a very long time I wanted to buy a nozzle and free a place, and give the meat grinder in good hands (it is almost new 2.5 years with a bunch of nozzles dough, vegetables , sausages, sausages) ... But now a different opinion. Your meat grinder is modern: it has a good motor and in the circle where the meat grinder itself is inserted there is a luvt device (this is when the meat is tight, the mechanism itself sways smoothly and the meat scrolls well and dampens the noise) many old different models have a loud roar of the motor and mechanism. My meat grinder has a higher mount and therefore the bowl passes in height into the butt. But I have two bowls: 4.8L - height 18.5cm and 3L - height 13cm without handle. Can I buy a small wooden board higher and a meat grinder on it and a bowl next to it?
Svetlenki
Quote: Sofita
Can I buy a small wooden board higher and a meat grinder on it and a bowl next to it?

Sofita, well, why are you so smart, and I still haven't documented it before ???

Thanks for the compliments to my worker and one more proof of the correctness of my choice.

I shut up, about other meat grinders, no, no
Twig
I downloaded the sound level meter app, measured the noise on the working Kenwood, Kitchen and Delongy's cousin.
Ken and Kitchen have exactly the same results. Higher speed means more noise.
I will not give the figures that the application shows, I'm not sure that they are absolutely correct.
The cousin is just a little quieter than the working Kenwood. Not my favorite machine, I don't know why the girls love her very much here, noisy, infection. When cooking, you can't hear the TV in the kitchen.

But the meat grinders became interesting. But I have nothing to grind yet. I have the axion. Before that, I didn't have electric grinders, so I was shocked from Axion, so noisy. I also heard how Kenwood works. Well, not quieter than Axion, I can tell you. Therefore, it seemed to me that all electric meat grinders are noisy to eerie, I thought this was the norm, you turn it on for a maximum of 10 minutes.
Rita
Twig, thank you!
caprice23
Here I also have Axion. And in comparison with the meat grinder attachment Kitchenovskaya yells like crazy.
Svetlenki
caprice23, Natasha, then I understand you. Take the metal meat grinder attachment, but I strongly advise you to freeze the minced meat. You will make life easier for your Kitchen.

By the way, or not by the way, I froze the crustilant for the cake on a small aluminum baking tray. Well, I got it (protivonechek) with my hands without gloves. I mean that it hurts my fingers. So you look ... Well, and the fact that metals and their spalls at subzero temperatures increase fragility, I already told you
caprice23
Svetlenki, Sveta, thank you, dear, I'll take it into account. I still think about this metal one. ))
Svetlenki
I made a discovery here a couple of months ago. I suspect that now they will laugh at me for being slow

In general, it turns out that Kitchen is soooo perfectly grinds cottage cheese with sugar into cheesecakes. Mine do not like grains of cottage cheese in cheesecakes. The structure should be fluffy and uniform. I used to make cheese cakes infrequently, because the mere thought of grinding the cottage cheese in a hand-held saucer, or rather, peeling the cottage cheese off it and washing it afterwards, discouraged any desire. And now everything is much simpler and easier.

I rub it with a flexi nozzle, if Th.
caprice23
Sveta, flexi - which one with a rubber edge?

Hmm, I didn't think she could grind the curd. I often make cheesecakes, but I mix everything with a fork. Mine are so great. But sometimes you need grated cottage cheese. Now I will know how to quickly and painlessly do it. Thank you
Svetlenki
Quote: caprice23
flexi - which one with a rubber edge?

She is the most.

Quote: caprice23
Hmm, I didn't think she could grind the curd.

Natasha, cottage cheese with sugar. You understand that sugar is an abrasive, it even helps flexi to work. Sugar-free cottage cheese, I did not need to grind
caprice23
Quote: Svetlenki
atash, cottage cheese with sugar. You understand that sugar is an abrasive, it even helps flexi to work.
Sure sure
Tomorrow I'll make dumplings with cottage cheese. How did you write on time!
caprice23
Girls, tell me, I'm going to make lasagne. How thick should the dough be rolled out? And can it be made on durum semolina? Or is it better on soft flour? A million questions
Poke your nose into a successful lasagne dough recipe if possible.
Svetlenki
caprice23, Natasha, unfortunately I'm lazy and buy sheets for lasagna.

But I can advise the recipe.

KitchenAid MixerLasagne with meat and mushrooms (Multicuisine DeLonghi)
(Elena Tim)


Maybe one of the girls will tell you how thick to roll. But I would not roll thinner than three. The lasagna should still be thicker for my taste. But this is my purely hypothetical assumption.

Adding durum is always delicious, the dough will keep its shape better, and float less. What are you worried about? Just give him a rest and everything will be fine.
caprice23
Svetlenki, Svetul, you won't believe it, it was according to this recipe that I did it.
It would be better if I bought these sheets: -
All was worn out. The amount of dough that is indicated in the recipe and approximately the same size of the mold had to be rolled by 6 to cover everything. In the process, I already realized that it was subtle. But again to make the dough and wait for the strength.





Quote: Svetlenki
The lasagna should still be thicker for my taste. But this is my purely hypothetical assumption.
And my
caprice23
Quote: Svetlenki
Kitchen taaak perfectly grinds cottage cheese with sugar on cheese cakes
Svetul, thank you!
Yesterday I made dumplings and cottage cheese just rubbed as you suggested. It turned out very cool!
Svetlenki
Quote: caprice23
thank you!

Fuh, relieved ... So I was not the only one in the dark Glad that the advice came in handy.
caprice23
Girls who have flat pasta attachments? Includes 5 pieces. I have three: a dough sheeter, a spaghetti and fettuccine cutter. I'm wondering what are the other two in a set of 5 attachments? Should you want them?
They write that the cappellini and lasagnetti. But you can write a lot of things. How much do they really differ from those in the small kit?

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