Scarecrow
caprice23,

A meat grinder - yes, a piece with a load. But I use it for interception: skip a couple of fillets and onion, liver, soaked bread and onion, with butter or lard. Something like this. Beef, large volumes, coarse cutting - stationary Bosch or Ankarsrum attachment.

In fact, I have been using a meat grinder for kitschen aid for about 10 years. For the first five years I had neither 2 stationary meat grinder, nor, moreover, a nozzle for ankarsrum. The kitschen meat grinder withstood everything. She grinded beef and even fermented willow tea leaves. While everyone is alive. Both a mixer and a meat grinder. Although the meat grinder is already tightened with a clamp at the very base. But taking into account that it is plastic, it was always washed in the PMM and it is at least 10 years old - this is an excellent result.)))
zoyaaa
Quote: Svetlenki
zoyaaa, Zoya, what a valuable infa! We could also find a photo.
There was no photo, my husband took off the lid in the morning and photographed for clarity, there is only one bolt to unscrew
Svetlenki
Quote: caprice23
Girls, a question for those who have a cleaning nozzle. I noticed that inside the auger is not compressed to the end. And if you look into the neck of the product bookmark, you can see the spring.

caprice23, Natasha, I exactly saw the description of this problem in one of the reviews on the American or European Amazon. Then I did not really delve into it, but now it surfaced in my brain. The photo was not as clear as yours, so I didn't move in.

I also wanted her very much at one time. I could dissuade myself only by the fact that I would not bother because of 5 tomatoes. I'd rather buy a trade wind

zoyaaa, I remember you! Then, if anything, search for your post by nickname.
Svetlana777
Quote: Scarecrow
In fact, I have been using a meat grinder for kitschen aid for about 10 years. For the first five years I had neither 2 stationary meat grinder, nor, moreover, a nozzle for ankarsrum. The kitschen meat grinder withstood everything. She grinded beef and even fermented willow tea leaves. While everyone is alive.
Natasha, when was that ?! I think today all equipment, at whatever price it is, is programmed for wear, otherwise there will be no movement on the market. Compare the quality of a kitchen 10 years old and older with the current one, then they will be different (inside they are made from a flimsy material), perhaps for the domestic market they produce at the same level

not on the topic, here they chose DSh, and I somehow had Gorenie at my place, I was against him, with no understanding, you can see the sensor or what is mowing there, in the store the seller from all the ones we chose for consideration on the contrary recommended this Gorenie, after my I asked about the quality of indignations for ck, I have it for 11 years, he said that now all the equipment is swing for 5 years, and then some breakdowns begin

Twig
Quote: Svetlenki
over 5 tomatoes
Because of 10 tomatoes, it's not even worth getting this attachment. Easier with a blender.
You will wash the nozzle longer.
Kstaaaati. Yesterday I made ketchup, rubbed it through a sieve. Then the remaining skins (I usually throw it away)
put it in the nutribullet, added some water. Punched - no trace of skins and seeds, clean smooth mass - puree. I threw it into the freezer in the molds. There will be a dressing for stewing cabbage or borscht.
Shaitan machine. Thanks to the forum member who advised me. I haven’t used nutribullet for a long time.
caprice23
Quote: Svetlenki
I also wanted her very much at one time. I could dissuade myself only by the fact that I would not bother because of 5 tomatoes. I'd rather buy a trade wind
And this year I put tomato juice on it! Class! I liked it very much. Fast and not confusing! And because of the five tomatoes, of course there is no point in getting her.
Quote: Svetlana777
Compare the quality of a kitchen 10 years old and older with the current one, then they will be different (inside they are made from a flimsy material), perhaps for the domestic market they produce at the same level
Here we can only hope that it is better for the domestic market. I have a true American
Quote: Scarecrow
The kitschen meat grinder withstood everything. She ground beef and even fermented willow tea leaves.
It's great! I have fillet, beef seems to be fine. But he doesn't like the neck, especially with bacon. The grate is clogged. I don't like to bother with freezing. Maybe the knife is not very sharp? How do you think it can be sharpened?
Sofita
caprice23, the most harmless nozzles and the most comfortable ones that cling to the top are: the dough sheeter is also convenient, since both hands are free and you can different maneuvers with rolling and quickly. Slicers for cutting rolled dough, the raviolnitsa is harmless, because you can gently turn the knobs with your hand - here there is a minimum load on the motor (there is no use of motor power).
And such attachments as: mills, meat grinder, presses and the like, squeezing out pasta - this is all an increased load (use of force for the motor).
Particularly strange are the nozzles of huge bandurins, which, like, replace the combine, and themselves actually take up space even more: this is for cubes, for a juicer, a squeezer for citrus. They are huge and the cost is generally not justified (you can have a small harvester for these purposes that performs much more functions)
Vegetable cutters 50% to 50% only if two carrots and one beet. And so a small harvester is in use, a large 4 liter Kitchen is the most beloved - always on the table (for borscht, all vegetables or stew cabbage - in 3 seconds for all cutting, I also wrote about this in detail)
The following must reside on the table: Bread maker, mixer and harvester!
And the rest of the tenants should be in a convenient, accessible place and at any time!
A coffee machine and a kettle are where they are convenient and beautiful to use, but not on the desktop.
Well, I wrote everything about the necessary and not very necessary.
Twig
Quote: caprice23
Maybe the knife isn't very sharp? How do you think it can be sharpened?
The knife is self-sharpening there. You just have to let it run for a couple of minutes.
caprice23
Quote: Twig
You just have to let it run for a couple of minutes.
I tried. It creaks so hard on the grate. Brrrr. This is normal?




Sofita, thanks, explained everything very easily.
Quote: Sofita
And so a small combine is in use, a large 4 liter Kitchen is my favorite
Do you get two combines? Both Kitchenovsky?

Sofita
caprice23, the meat grinder attachment is sold in two types: plastic and iron. The iron one winds up better, but it costs more than 15,000 rubles. It also spoils the mixer. But if you want, then it is better to buy an iron one, there it turns softer and better knives.
caprice23
Quote: Sofita
the meat grinder is sold in two types: plastic and iron
I just really want an iron one. But I don’t make up my mind. I think everything
e1win
Quote: zoyaaa

adjustable by the bottom screw.

Hello and Thanks for your reply!
I fiddled with this switch for two days, as soon as I didn't turn these screws: both from the video on YouTube, and from the service book (there, first, the tops set the stir to 60rpm with two, then the lower set the 6th speed to 180rpm) - nothing, the mixer is slow. does not want to spin, at any position of the screws immediately 150rpm (((
zoyaaa
When you move the speed lever, does the plate on the bolt move?
Sofita
caprice23, I don’t know how to count them correctly: there are certainly more of them, if you don’t even count the meat grinder, which I don’t like and did not live up to expectations (although there are many good qualities: noiseless, it can be turned on at night and grinds very quickly and almost without waste. , high neck (you can substitute a bowl from a mixer or a 5 liter bowl from a multicooker). She has a bunch of attachments of which I use only for sausages, the rest are untouched: this is for cutting and grating vegetables and cheese, as well as for making all kinds of pasta. I had to pay for all this, because it was sold as a set, and the quality of some of the details is terrible.This is how it happens, outwardly sweet and the class works, and a few details are made under the bridge, and the knives / grates and auger are super-duper made of heavy stainless high-quality steel. It is small and compact itself, and even the cord is hidden inside. For 5 minutes, 5 kg of minced meat, three types of grates. So almost a harvester:
3 meat attachments
4 attachments for vegetables and cheese
3 sausage attachments
4 nozzles for pasta
Here are all the attachments, except for minced meat and sausages, I think they are not necessary, they are lying around new and it is a pity to throw it away (paid), but I would love to give it, but there it is necessary that the size and shape of the attachment to the base match.
There is also a combine with a cutter with 5 moulinex nozzles (not a twist) and the one that goes there and here and cuts: cubes, fries, slice, small and large grater is very cool and takes up little space, it is convenient and quick to wash. I study and master the Boulet with all attachments and spirolizers. Well, this is for which vegetables and which attachment is best suited and most importantly for which dish. While this is in the process of personal learning experience. I will write in detail about Big Kitchen later and why my beloved.
e1win
Quote: zoyaaa

When you move the speed lever, does the plate on the bolt move?
Yes, it moves
Having scoured the forums of electricians and technicians, the thought is gnawing that these could be dead elements on the speed control board (triac) ...
This is to the question of American quality for the domestic market) American mixer, serial number release - January 2019))
zoyaaa
I also have an American one.
The husband thinks the same, if everything is ok with the contacts going to the board, then these are problems with the board.
e1win
Quote: zoyaaa

I also have an American one.
The husband thinks the same, if everything is ok with the contacts going to the board, then these are problems with the board.
Could you ask your spouse if the black wire from the Triac scarf is closed in a single circuit?
Those from the board come 4 wires - red, blue, red-white, black
So if you ring the contacts (the terminals themselves are on the copper plate), then red, blue and red-white ring each other, those, as I understand it, are closed in a single circuit, but the black one does not ring with any of them
Is this ok, or is it just in the black wire and there may be a problem? It's just that, as I understand it, black can be the power supply of the board, so it does not mess with color




The funny thing is that before that I bought a version of pro with a lifting bowl - everything worked perfectly, but I sold it right away while it was new, because it was just huge and I just had nowhere to attach it, and every time it was nonsense to drag it out of the boxes
And then he took the kid by 4.8 (in comparison with the six-quart at 575 watts - the 5-quart artisan is really a kid), and he shows me his "fi" right out of the box
caprice23
I read about the same speeds .... I have a feeling that the first and second are the same on my mixer. Do they all, too, or are they very different? And how to understand how many revolutions at what speed?
zoyaaa
In the evening I will ask you to look.
e1win
Quote: zoyaaa

In the evening I will ask you to look.
Thank you




Quote: caprice23

I read about the same speeds .... I have a feeling that the first and second are the same on my mixer. Do they all, too, or are they very different? And how to understand how many revolutions at what speed?
Very simple
The first one is washing - 60 rpm needs to be adjusted, turn on the washing and put your finger on the top of the "beater" (like this thing in Russian




Fuck, I wrote so much, but only a part went




In general, put your finger on the area under the aluminum (or stainless) ring, if you have an artisan and you count how many revolutions in 15 seconds at the first speed it makes, it should be 15 revs in 15 sec
There is a protruding part, so it is easy to count, it will push your finger a little when it turns
If not 15 to 15, then remove the back cover and adjust the two upper screws, which are fixed with nuts (they must first be loosened), twist both in equal proportions, one half of the turnover and the second the same way, until you catch 15 about 15 seconds
How you caught it - fasten the nuts to fix these screws, go to the 6th speed twice, it should be 180 rpm, those 45 in 15 seconds, those 15 rpm in 5 seconds (to make it easier to count)
If not, then turn the lower screw already, it is there alone, as you catch 15 rpm in 5 seconds - your mixer is calibrated, clap your hands and close the back cover









Where to keep (just for everyone)
KitchenAid Mixer
zoyaaa
Quote: e1win
Those from the board come 4 wires - red, blue, red-white, black
So if you ring the contacts (the terminals themselves are on the copper plate), then red, blue and red-white ring each other, those, as I understand it, are closed in a single circuit, but the black one does not ring with any of them
Is this ok, or is it just in the black wire and there may be a problem? It's just that, as I understand it, black can be the power supply of the board, so it does not mess with color

With black it doesn’t ring.
KitchenAid Mixer




Speed; Blue; B. red; Red; White
Off; 0; 0; 0; 0
Stir; 13.9; 13.6; 13.5; one
2; 14.2; 13.6; 13.5; 1
4; 14.6; 13.5; 13.5; 1
6; 14.8; 13.5; 13.5; 1
8; 14.0; 13.5; 13.5; 1
10; 14.0; 13.5; 13.5; 1
caprice23
e1win, Thank you very much! Very important information. I will definitely check
OlgaGera
Quote: caprice23
the first and second are the same on my mixer
I have the same.





Quote: e1win
In general, place your finger on the area under the aluminum (or stainless) ring,
momma .. thanks.
But it's easier for me to change the linkage on the diesel engine. I will force my husband to delve into
caprice23
But I counted
At the first speed in 15 seconds 37 revolutions, at the second - 41, at 3-41, at 6 - 45. At the sixth as it should, but the first is the second, the fourth ...
So I have the same bullshit. And I thought that it should be so. I understood that the first one was somehow very nimble ...

zoyaaa, Zoya, tell me, what do the numbers in your table mean?




And if I climb to turn the screws, I'm worse off there on what not mess? (((
Maybe there is some video that would be exactly what you need to unscrew?




e1win, Only calibrate the first and sixth? And the rest?
zoyaaa
The husband measured the resistance. I hope I didn't mess anything up until I got to the computer.
caprice23
zoyaaa, Zoya, is everything all right with your speeds? Are they working correctly?

Girls, count, too, how many turns do you have?
Scarecrow
Something you confused me. I have a scale of speeds from 1 to 10 drawn on the Kitchen Aid, but the lever moves 6 times, that is, in real life, 6 speeds. all six are different from slowest to fastest. Accelerates with every step.
e1win
Quote: caprice23

Only calibrate the first and sixth? And the rest?
Yes, they first calibrate the first with the two upper screws, then the sixth with the lower ones, the rest will be set relative to these two
Honestly, it seems to me that a triac or a diac on the board died too, I studied the question here
If calibration (as in my case) does not correct the situation, then there will be two options for relatively cheap repair of the mixer (and it will have to be repaired, because if you are kneading the dough, then such high speeds will quickly kill the motor on tight things)

Option 1 - buy a whole scarf in the Russian Federation in the 2tr region and replace
Option 2 - buy a scarf in the USA from $ 10 to $ 15 and bring it with something, when you form any shipment, it weighs like a pair of matches
Option 3 (aka Soviet and radical) - buy a triac of rubles for 50 and a diac of rubles for 4 and find a guy who will replace them on this board
P / S - if dancing with screws does not help, but decide to go in a simple way, write to me, I will give a part number
If it is difficult - write anyway, I will tell you which triac and diac to buy




Quote: Scarecrow

Something you confused me. I have a scale of speeds from 1 to 10 drawn on the Kitchen Aid, but the lever moves 6 times, that is, in real life, 6 speeds. all six are different from slowest to fastest. Accelerates with every step.

So if everything works well for you, is there any point in delving into and getting confused?)
Sixth speed (not sixth gear) is where the number six is ​​drawn)

I completely forgot Caprice23, there is also a zero option, it is the simplest - to give it to the service, they will buy everything there and do it for you, but judging by the fact that people change gears here, giving $ 150 each, it is likely that the option will be expensive
Scarecrow
e1win,

Because the owners of the buggy copies asked and came to light. So I'm trying to figure out whether I'm looking or not))).

e1win


You are all right, the first speed is clearly a revolution per second, do not worry, everything is ok
I started immediately at the speed that you have on the third click (4speed)
caprice23
Quote: e1win
P / S - if dancing with screws does not help, but decide to go in a simple way, write to me, I will give a part number
Please write, not for me so someone else will come in handy.

Option 3 (aka Soviet and radical) - buy a triac of rubles for 50 and a diac of rubles for 4 and find a guy who will replace them on this board
And you can read more about the triac and diac. What is it and how to do it? I just don't understand anything about this. And so that I could explain to a person what and how.
I'm upset
How is that. New and such garbage. Well, it would appear after use.
Sofita
caprice23, well, you have everything in order with the mixer, in it the main speed is high only for beating, and for example, the dough sheeter and everything suited and did not notice until now, then you shouldn't pay attention to it. Kitchen assistants to make life easier for us, and not to confuse us with difficulties. You need to feel sorry for yourself and love. For this reason, many of us buy various small appliances for convenience and beauty. The kitchens are, of course, very beautiful, but as regards the quality, the following was discovered here: For combines, those whose metal base is made in America, and in plastic they are made in China. That seems to be the problem of marriage. I have a 4 liter metal harvester and an American with a full set of attachments and my favorite. He can gracefully and quickly for a salad, cabbage and the like very quickly cut, thinner prettier than in a burner. Huge throat and three in one holder sizes. And the most convenient: there is an opportunity to change three different bowls, not to wash one single bowl after each cutting. You can also make various sauces there. There are attachments for beating creams and kneading dough, as well as for nuts, cheeses and ice and a juicer. Convenient storage case for attachments. Despite this, I recently bought Veggie Boulet a slicer and a spirolizer and a glass for sauces. In which there are 7 types of cutters and 4 spirolizers and a glass for different sauces. Probably this is also a harvester only a little less and the attachments still take up space. This device for me is at the stage of practical application and study, since it was bought because of the sudden possibility of acquiring and I have not yet had time to fall in love with it. Most importantly, it lacks a full description of recipes from what and what dishes for each nozzle. Not only raw vegetables are there. Probably a plus, that it is not heavy and can be easily removed from the table, and when you need to put it back.
Svetlenki
Quote: caprice23
Girls, count, too, how many turns do you have?

My first speed is 14-15. But definitely not more than 15 revolutions.

caprice23, Natasha, you will succeed, I think. Do not worry!
caprice23
Quote: Sofita
noticed until now and pay attention to it is worthless.
I disagree. Before that I noticed, but I thought that it should be so. For some reason, there was no doubt about such an expensive technique. Before kitschen, I didn't have any mixers. Each time I was surprised how he sausage the dough at the first speed. Not a fig just stirring gently. And it turns out this is not the first, but almost the fourth turns out. And even in the instructions it is written that the yeast dough should be mixed in the first or second. It turns out that I always loaded him beyond measure. And if this contributes to engine wear, why would I need it? Better get confused and done. I do not think that it will be difficult for a specialist to change a part, solder or whatever.
Svetlenki
Quote: caprice23
It turns out that I always loaded him beyond measure.

By the way, I'm not sure here. Engineering minds told me that the quality of the motor / motor performance is checked precisely at low speeds. It is more difficult for him to work correctly then - slowly rotate without jerking. In general, the load on the motor is greater at low speeds. Here I am.

Quote: caprice23
Before that I noticed, but I thought that it should be so. For some reason, there was no doubt about such an expensive technique. Before kitschen, I didn't have any mixers. Each time I was surprised how he sausage the dough at the first speed. Not a fig just stirring gently.

Yes, at such moments you start to appreciate our forum. e1win, thank you very much for showing up here!
caprice23
Scarecrow, Nata, where's the video going? Turn it back




Quote: Svetlenki
e1win, thank you very much for coming here!
That's for sure! Men have a completely different look and a different approach.
Svetlana777
I beat off the whole finger counting the revolutions, it is interesting to adjust if 20 revolutions are at the 1st in 15 seconds, at the last 50? All speeds work in different ways, incrementally
Scarecrow
caprice23,

I thought you looked at everything)).
caprice23
Scarecrow, Don't be greedy, show it again
Scarecrow
caprice23,

Yes, I deleted it. And from the phone too)).
Sofita
I remembered a very important point that kitchen appliances with a motor in which rotational movements are not desirable for a long period of idle time without work, since in the kitchen there is high humidity even after switching on it can creak, which is not very good. Therefore, if you do not use it for a long time, then it is necessary to turn it on for at least a few minutes once every 2-3 months (it can be idle). Even with good normal humidity, but they stand without work for a long time, then in them some, too, even lubricated parts can get greased. So do not leave unattended for a long time and make them a gymnast for the motor and rotational parts.
Svetlenki
And no one looked after the grease for the kitchen? And then over there the Kenwoods grease their cars, but they don't show the grease passwords. What if we also need to grease something? Or no?
e1win
Quote: caprice23


How is that. New and such garbage. Well, it would appear after use.

So you also have a defect out of the box? Hmm .. really sad, I thought I was special ...

The part number (board) for 120v models (purchased by the USA) is w10325124, for 220v models (purchased by Russia and Europe) W10538289 - if you change the whole
If you change the burned out / faulty elements on the board, then you need a triac and a diac (most often)
Q1 - STA06-600SW
Q2 - DB3TG
The layout diagram (although, how you buy the elements, they are easy to recognize on the board) is:

But no, not here, I won't leave links

In general, the layout of the board is in the service book, and I sent you a video of the replacement with half a board in HP





Quote: Svetlana777

I beat off the whole finger counting the revolutions, it is interesting to adjust if 20 revolutions are at the 1st in 15 seconds, at the last 50? All speeds work in different ways, incrementally
You can try, there really is nothing complicated
caprice23
e1win, thank you very much! Let's try to redo it.
Can you tell me where in Russia you can buy these parts?
e1win
Quote: Svetlenki

And no one looked after the grease for the kitchen? And then over there the Kenwoods grease their cars, but they don't show the grease passwords. What if we also need to grease something? Or no?
All Kitchen Aids have 6 fluid ounces (about 200 ml) of BENALENE 930-2 grease or equivalent
But it's not so easy to replace it.




Quote: caprice23

e1win, thank you very much! Let's try to redo it.
Can you tell me where in Russia you can buy these parts?
But I am still doing this myself.
There are several radio markets in Moscow time, but they, as usually happens, are almost 40 km from me
Actually, there should be on the radio markets, there is also on the Internet, on some sites like chipdip, I just have a glimmer of hope that at the same time I will find a person on the radio market who will solder, since soldering is not my strong point
caprice23
Quote: e1win
There are several radio markets in Moscow time, but they, as usually happens, are almost 40 km from me
Eh, and from me 840 km
PLEASE write if you find where you can buy ... With a quick search of the Internet, only Amazon and ebay gives out ...
Svetlenki
Quote: e1win
All Kitchen Aids have 6 fluid ounces (about 200 ml) of BENALENE 930-2 grease or equivalent
But it's not so easy to replace it.

Clear. We will not replace it. How do you recognize the signs that you need to lubricate?
Sofita
caprice23, it is most likely best to order at your nearest Kitchen service workshop. They will order and if they themselves cannot install, then they will install. So I ordered a new touch control panel for the Bread Maker. First, find on the Internet by request in a search engine where it is nearby and first talk on the phone, and then drive up and order.
caprice23
Sofita, eh, something is far from my service center. In my city there is no (((
Sofita
Svetlenki, there it is simply that if the time stagnates a little to drive for prevention, a good soft move means everything is wonderful and you don't need to lubricate anything. But if a hard move creaks for a start and it just doesn't work out to be soft without a creak and there is no experience on your own, then it is better to do preventive maintenance in the workshop, it's quick. There are no problems with this service in Moscow.




caprice23, well, for starters, at least order parts there, I don't remember how long I waited, last year it was, but we went from St. Petersburg (there was a warehouse, but I don’t know where they bought them in the warehouse) to Moscow for two or three weeks when they called me.

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