Lozja
Tan, everything is much simpler, I think so myself, looking at the mode plate. Do you remember the Boil program in Dex 50? STE it is most likely.
exiga
For a better comparison, here are the modes Philips 3077/40 and Dex 60 (the photo of the Dex modes was "borrowed" in the corresponding branch, the authorship is not mine, sorry).
Multicooker Philips HD 3025/03, HD 3036/03 and HD3077 / 40
Multicooker Philips HD 3025/03, HD 3036/03 and HD3077 / 40
Lozja
Either the Philos have the wrong plate, or I’m an idiot. Girls, owners, and what really boils equally, what is steamed, what is stewing? Is it the same on porridge? I'm slightly confused. Around 90-95 degrees.

And who said they were clones? I don't see anything in common, even programmatically.
exiga
I also want to add that the "oven" mode does not have the temperature indicated in the table, there is simply no automatic cooking, only manual settings. So, in order to compare the boiling point, it is simply that while nothing has been "cooked", it has not been "steamed", somehow "extinguishing" has cost
exiga
Porridge is prepared very well! Violent boiling is not observed, so little by little it "breathes", does not "run away"
Lozja
Quote: exiga

I also want to add that the "oven" mode does not have the temperature indicated in the table, there is simply no automatic cooking, only manual settings. So, in order to compare the boiling point, it is simply that while nothing has been "cooked", it has not been "steamed", somehow "extinguishing" has cost

And what did you cook at Stew? How does it boil there?

Do not think, I am not in order to run into your Phillips, I just sell multicooker and since now Phillips are filling the market, I try to understand them in order to know what to advise people.

Quote: exiga

Porridge is prepared very well! Violent boiling is not observed, so little by little it "breathes", does not "run away"

It's great. How, then, can a steam be the same temperature? Also, is Rhys okay? Has anyone already cooked pilaf? Confused a little by the temperature in the plate.
azaza
I would not pay attention to these tables, they do not correspond to the truth either in Phil or in Dex. Ksyusha, you and I have established empirically that in Dex on Steam there cannot be a temperature of 100 *, because even milk does not boil in manual mode at the same temperature, but breathes, what can we say about other liquids. And as for baking in Phil-77, I’m silent - what are they in figs 130-140 *, if they are not installed there even manually ?!
Girls, try this mode after all, which is Cook. You never know what they write in the instructions. They do not always correspond to reality. Because the description of this mode is very vague. And the time is really set there from 5 minutes? And at the same time, Ksyusha, mind you: there is a violent boil (if I understood correctly about the comparison of this pr. With Steam). Maybe this is really something like boiling, but the pace stated in the instructions. shocking. Some kind of garbage.
azaza
Oksan, just for Rice, the declared 130-140 * seem to me normal - it is quite consistent with your experiment on hand.
exiga
We are glad to share our experience, because indeed, this cartoon is new, no one really knows anything yet, I bought it at random myself. Rice in a ratio of 1: 2 turns out to be very crumbly, not boiled. It is not prepared with a violent (for some reason) boiling, despite the declared temperature of 130 !!! degrees. The cooking time in this mode is undefined, the cartoon "encrypts" something there, you can see the cooking stage by the blinking indicator. Pilaf was cooked by zita, I seemed to be very pleased with the result. For the sake of interest, I have now steamed lazy dumplings, after a while I will report
azaza
The Rice program should work just like that, it should be "encrypted" And at the last minutes the countdown should start.Is nothing like this observed on the Cook program? Does it count down from the moment you press the Start button?
exiga
In automatic modes, I have never seen an instant countdown from the start. Finally it came about steaming! At the start of the program, dashes begin to run, when it already starts to boil violently, a sound signal is heard (as I have already caught up to bookmark products, in the instructions!), And the countdown has already started from 30 minutes (), and in the plate the range is up to 2 hours () ... In short how blind kittens pioneers, it is not clear which country we will sail to!
Lozja
Why, for bookmarking products? The products are loaded immediately. It's just that the countdown starts from boiling, and that's good, you can set the steaming time exactly and not steam. Only with time did not understand. From 30 minutes? Can't put less? And more?
exiga
The default is 30 minutes, the time can be set from 5 minutes to 2 hours. So with you, girls, and we will study the issue thoroughly!
azaza
Quote: Lozja

Only with time did not understand. From 30 minutes? Can't put less? And more?
Maybe 30 minutes is the preset time? Then manually must be set first to the declared maximum, and then the minimum. By analogy with Dex. And in other cartoons the same way. This is me for filovodk girls, Oksan, not for you - you already know. Thank God, there will be more multi-experience than mine.
But the sound signal at the start of the countdown Not always, but sometimes I need it, I do not fatat it in Dex. Although it’s no use to him, if this signal can only be heard while standing next to the cartoon. It hurts our guy is quiet. (This is me again about Dex, so that they would not take it for hitting Filia)
And by the way, the countdown does not start at the moment when the water boils, but not less than after a couple of minutes. Apparently, the sensor is missing something in the first moments of boiling.
exiga
Phillips also boiled a little before the signal. Of course, I have nothing to compare with, but in Filipka the sound is also quiet, very pleasant, but for me this is rather a plus, otherwise my bread maker screams so much that when the little children are sleeping, I just want to beat them! And the sound cannot be turned off
azaza
Yes, with sound - a variable sign depending on the age of the children And if the children are adults, they are no longer afraid of the pilots of technology. Especially if the children live separately
exiga
Quote: azaza

Yes, with sound - a variable sign depending on the age of the children And if the children are adults, they are no longer afraid of the pilots of technology. Especially if the children live separately

Oh yeah!
zita
Quote: Lozja

And what did you cook at Stew? How does it boil there?

Do not think, I am not in order to run into your Phillips, I just sell multicooker and since now Phillips are filling the market, I try to understand them in order to know what to advise people.

It's great. How, then, can a steam be the same temperature? Also, is Rhys okay? Has anyone already cooked pilaf? Confused a little by the temperature in the plate.
I cooked pilaf, everything turned out great
Lozja
Quote: zita

I cooked pilaf, everything turned out great

So the plate is for scrap. We will find out everything empirically.
zita
Quote: Lozja

So the plate is for scrap. We will find out everything empirically.
I did everything according to the book, I can say that the time needs to be reduced in pilaf. it costs 40 minutes, that's a lot. 15-20 is enough, if more it starts to burn.
Lozja
Quote: zita

I did everything according to the book, I can say that the time needs to be reduced in pilaf. it costs 40 minutes, that's a lot. 15-20 is enough, if more it starts to burn.

Well Duc all the same the temperature on this program is too strong. Should be softer. Pilaf in 15 minutes should not be cooked in any way. 40 minutes is the optimal time for pilaf. But we overdid it with temperature. Or did you cook 1 portion of pilaf?
zita
Quote: Lozja

Well Duc all the same the temperature on this program is too strong. Should be softer. Pilaf in 15 minutes should not be cooked in any way. 40 minutes is the optimal time for pilaf. But we overdid it with the temperature. Or did you cook 1 portion of pilaf?
according to the recipe, there are 2 glasses of rice and half a kilo of meat, this is almost a full bowl. the temperature is normal, as expected.perhaps the fact is that I do not fry the meat for 20 minutes, as written in the recipe, but until it is completely browned. if you do it completely according to the recipe, then I think it will be just 40 minutes and it will come out, for 20 minutes of frying there is a little water from onions and carrots, well, respectively, meat, adding to these two glasses of rice another 4 glasses of water you leave just for 40 minutes. I completely evaporate all the water from meat, onions and carrots - as I wrote, for the complete frying of meat and vegetables, I just like the rice, this time is enough for it to be completely ready. before cooking, I soak it for an hour in water, and after the pilaf, it should still take some time to reach or infuse, the multicooker looks like a thermos, it draws heat even if it turns off the heating. We did not wait for time, ate right away, twist, the rice was boiled completely, soft and crumbly.
Lozja
Everything is possible. Maybe it's the rice soaking? He then prepares much faster. I don't soak. And I meant the very cooking of all the pilaf together, frying is not included in these 40 minutes at all.
But I honestly have not yet seen pilaf cook in 15 minutes. And you try to turn off the program for cooking pilaf after 15 minutes, then it will be clear whether it will be cooked during this time or not. I think that there are 5 extra minutes there, but not 25.
Even on Rice / Express, small portions (1 glass, for example) are cooked for about 25 minutes.

In some multicooker programs the Pilaf (Rice) program kind of fries the pilaf for the last 5-10 minutes, resulting in the so-called pilaf with a crust. I think your cartoon is the same.
Lozja
I will add to make it clearer. Look, the Rice or Plov program works until the liquid has completely evaporated, and so, after evaporation, the multicooker keeps the program on for a few more minutes. And the degree of roastiness of the pilaf below depends on this time. If, after complete evaporation, the program still runs for 5 minutes, it will not fry much. But if 10 is still heating dry, then it is clear that the pilaf below will be fried during this time specifically. Something like this. Just turn it off 5 minutes before the end of the program and it will be good. And of course it also depends on the temperature of the program itself. For a multicooker, 40 minutes for pilaf is fast (relatively), which means that the temperature there is a little higher, which means that it will fry faster and stronger at the end.
zita
Quote: Lozja

Everything is possible. Could it be the rice soaking? He then prepares much faster. I don't soak. And I meant the very cooking of all the pilaf together, frying is not included in these 40 minutes at all.
But I honestly haven't seen pilaf cook in 15 minutes. And you try to turn off the program for cooking pilaf after 15 minutes, then it will be clear whether it will be cooked during this time or not. I think that there are 5 extra minutes there, but not 25.
Even on Rice / Express, small portions (1 glass, for example) are cooked for about 25 minutes.

In some multicooker programs, the Pilaf (Rice) program seems to fry the pilaf for the last 5-10 minutes, resulting in the so-called pilaf with a crust. I think your cartoon is the same.
maybe with a crust, I somehow didn’t think about it, but I really liked the pilaf, we love it and it didn’t work on the gas stove
Lozja
Quote: zita

maybe with a crust, I somehow didn’t think about it, but I really liked the pilaf, we love it and it didn’t work on the gas stove

Well, many people like pilaf from multi. The main thing is that the result pleased you! And there are those who categorically dislike pilaf from multi. Although, it seems to me that the whole point here is who is accustomed to what kind of pilaf + different multicooker cooks pilaf a little differently. Which again your phillips prove.
zita
Quote: Lozja

Well, many people like pilaf from multi. The main thing is that the result pleased you! And there are those who categorically dislike pilaf from multi. Although, it seems to me that the whole point here is who is accustomed to what kind of pilaf + different multicooker cooks pilaf a little differently. Which again your phillips prove.
Is this a plus or a minus from Dia Phillips?
Lozja
Quote: zita

Is this a plus or a minus from Dia Phillips?

I am not evaluating the pros and cons now that we are talking about pilaf. I am just analyzing your results, comparing them with other models of multicooker.Since the pilaf has turned out, then everything is fine with this program. I just wrote that this mode in different cartoons is slightly different in small nuances. But all the same, everyone succeeds in pilaf, whatever one may say.
yara
Quote: zita

I wouldn't take dex, I'm for proven branded items
Lozja
Quote: yara


I think it meant a proven brand.
elfree
So girls, you're in luck, Philips HD 3077/40, this is my 4th multicooker, I previously used Perfeza, Saturn and Aurora. Phillips picked up because of the saucepan and the controlled temperature. By the way, I was also pleased with all the multicooker listed above, each has its own pros and cons, but their main purpose is to cook well, they do it perfectly.
So about Philips, there is an obvious typo in the instructions, about the time of Extinguishing, it is not 20m.-2h., But from 1h. up to 10h and after 1 hour you can set the minutes with an interval of 10 minutes. That is, 1h 10, 2h 20m, 3h 30m. etc. I will note that in cheaper multicooker, the extinguishing regime usually starts from 2 hours.
Mode - Cooking from 5 to 30 minutes, in other multicooker it is called Pasta, which is cooked on it understandably from the name, usually cooked with the lid open.
Mode - Steam cooking, time from 5 minutes to 2 hours, in other multicooker usually time in minutes to 1 hour.
Mode - Heating, corresponds to its functional purpose, from 8m. up to 25m.
Mode - Rice, the only fully automatic program, my first experience showed that if you add water to 2 cups of Khazar rice to the measure on a Philips saucepan, corresponding to 2 cups of rice, you get boiled porridge.
Mode - Porridge, in other multicooker it is called Milk porridge, Soup. Time from 1h. up to 4 hours, after 1 hour. minutes can be set in 1 minute increments. For example 1h 2m, 2h 3m. etc.
Mode - Extinguish, I wrote about it above.
Mode - Fry, as it is named, usually fried with the lid open, time from 5 to 59 minutes. with a step of 1 min.
Mode - Oven, the only mode with which the "Temperature" button works (40, 60, 80, 100, 120, 150, 180 g.) From 20 min. up to 1 hour changes in 20 min increments. (by default when the mode is turned on - 45 min.), after 1 hour the time changes in 10 min increments. up to 2 hours.
That's all for now.
zita
Quote: elfree

So girls, you're in luck, Philips HD 3077/40, this is my 4th multicooker, I previously used Perfeza, Saturn and Aurora. Phillips picked up because of the saucepan and the controlled temperature. By the way, I was also pleased with all the multicooker listed above, each has its own pros and cons, but their main purpose is to cook well, they do it perfectly.
So about Philips, there is an obvious typo in the instructions, about the time of Extinguishing, it is not 20m.-2h., But from 1h. up to 10h and after 1 hour you can set the minutes with an interval of 10 minutes. That is, 1h 10, 2h 20m, 3h 30m. etc. I will note that in cheaper multicooker, the extinguishing regime usually starts from 2 hours.
Mode - Cooking from 5 to 30 minutes, in other multicooker it is called Pasta, which is cooked on it understandably from the name, usually cooked with the lid open.
Mode - Steam cooking, time from 5 minutes to 2 hours, in other multicooker usually time in minutes to 1 hour.
Mode - Heating, corresponds to its functional purpose, from 8m. up to 25m.
Mode - Rice, the only fully automatic program, my first experience showed that if you add water to 2 cups of Khazar rice to the measure on a Philips saucepan corresponding to 2 cups of rice, you get boiled porridge.
Mode - Porridge, in other multicooker it is called Milk porridge, Soup. Time from 1h. up to 4 hours, after 1 hour. minutes can be set in 1 minute increments. For example 1h 2m, 2h 3m. etc.
Mode - Extinguish, I wrote about it above.
Mode - Fry, as it is named, usually fried with the lid open, time from 5 to 59 minutes. with a step of 1 min.
Mode - Oven, the only mode with which the "Temperature" button works (40, 60, 80, 100, 120, 150, 180 g.) From 20 min. up to 1 hour changes in 20 min increments. (by default when the mode is turned on - 45 min.), after 1 hour the time changes in 10 min increments. up to 2 hours.
That's all for now.
Why do you need so many multicooker?
exiga
elfree, thanks for the detailed description! Were we lucky with the cartoons or with the fact that you agreed to paint the details?
elfree
A self-respecting housewife should have at least 2 multicooker if she values ​​her personal time. In one he prepares the first courses, in the second - the second, or baked goods. Unfortunately, it is not yet possible to cook two dishes in one multicooker, and waiting until the first is cooked to then boil the second, in my opinion, is not correct (not rational). Sitting in the kitchen and watching how a dish is being prepared on a gas stove, alas, is not my life hobby. Today I have 2 multicooker in my kitchen, Aurora and Filya, one more from my brother, I used it for six months and one from my daughter, I used it for a year. And you are doubly lucky with the cartoons and with me, since I am an analyst by profession.
exiga
Quote: elfree

A self-respecting housewife should have at least 2 multicooker if she values ​​her personal time. In one he prepares the first courses, in the second - the second, or baked goods. Unfortunately, it is not yet possible to cook two dishes in one multicooker, and waiting until the first is cooked to then boil the second, in my opinion, is not correct (not rational). Sitting in the kitchen and watching how a dish is being prepared on a gas stove, alas, is not my life hobby. Today I have 2 multicooker in my kitchen, Aurora and Filya, one more from my brother, I used it for six months and one from my daughter, I used it for a year. And you are doubly lucky with the cartoons and with me, since I am an analyst by profession.
We will be glad to have analytical cooperation
elfree
Yes, for those who want to see the complete set of Fili, I would recommend the video in good quality at this address:
exiga
Thanks for the video! It is very amusing and quite informative, but there is a question: what is this 75 model with a 6-liter pan, otherwise I need more! Soup from my five-liter is eaten too quickly, and so at least for an additive it will be enough
zita
Quote: elfree

A self-respecting housewife should have at least 2 multicooker if she values ​​her personal time. In one he prepares the first courses, in the second - the second, or baked goods. Unfortunately, it is not yet possible to cook two dishes in one multicooker, and waiting until the first is cooked to then boil the second, in my opinion, is not correct (not rational). Sitting in the kitchen and watching a dish cook on a gas stove, alas, is not my hobby in life. To date, I have 2 multicooker in my kitchen, Aurora and Filya, another one from my brother, I used it for six months and one from my daughter, I used it for a year. And you are doubly lucky with the cartoons and with me, since I am an analyst by profession.
but as a second slow cooker, which one would you recommend? I'm interested in a volume of 2-3 liters
elfree
By setting the size of the bowl, you limit the choice of multicooker.
1. Panasonic SR-TMH10 -2.5l.
2. Redmond RMC-M11 - 3L.
3. Redmond RMC-01 - 2L.
4. Maxwell MW-3801 - 3L.
exiga
Redmond is of course tempting, but if I'm not mistaken, this brand is not sold in Ukraine
elfree
I decided to correct the previously stated information about the operating modes of the Philips HD 3077/40.
Mode - Steam cooking, time from 5 minutes to 2 hours, in other multicooker usually time in minutes to 1 hour.
Mode - Heating, corresponds to its functional purpose, from 8m. up to 25m.
Mode - Rice, the only fully automatic program. Works until water is evaporated from the porridge. We filled up the ingredients, turned on the mode and did not climb under the lid until cooked. Approximate cooking time 35min. (In other multicooker - 45-50m.)
Mode - Porridge, in other multicooker it is called Milk porridge, Soup. Time from 1h. up to 4 hours, after 1 hour. minutes can be set in 1 minute increments. For example 1h.2m., 2h.3m. etc.
Mode - Extinguish, working time from 20 minutes to 10 hours. By default, 1 hour is set, with the Hours / Minutes button you can set 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 o'clock. After 10 o'clock comes 0h 20m. and you can change minutes in 10-minute increments. i.e. 20.30.40.50 m.
Mode - Fry, as it is named, usually fried with the lid open, time from 5 to 59 minutes. with a step of 1 min.
Mode - Oven, the only mode with which the "Temperature" button works (40, 60, 80, 100, 120, 150, 180 g.). The operating time of the Oven Mode is from 20 min. up to 2 hours, changes in 10 min steps. (by default when the mode is turned on - 45 min.)
For the Furnace mode, the manufacturer offers the following temperature-time parameters:
1. Charlotte - 180gr., Time - 30 min.
2. Chocolate - nut cake - 180g., Time - 30 min.
3. Lemon cheesecake - 120g, time - 60 min.
Summarizing the above, I note that the owners of Philips HD 3077/40 can be proud of their helper, such chic stewing and baking modes, there are almost no other multicooker, and the combinations of Fry, Stew, Oven, Porridge, Cook modes create a huge field for creativity when preparing delicious meals.
zita
Quote: elfree

I decided to correct the previously stated information about the operating modes of the Philips HD 3077/40.
Mode - Steam cooking, time from 5 minutes to 2 hours, in other multicooker usually time in minutes to 1 hour.
Mode - Heating, corresponds to its functional purpose, from 8m. up to 25m.
Mode - Rice, the only fully automatic program. Works until water is evaporated from the porridge. We filled up the ingredients, turned on the mode and did not climb under the lid until cooked. Approximate cooking time 35min. (In other multicooker - 45-50m.)
Mode - Porridge, in other multicooker it is called Milk porridge, Soup. Time from 1h. up to 4 hours, after 1 hour. minutes can be set in 1 minute increments. For example 1h 2m, 2h 3m. etc.
Mode - Extinguish, working time from 20 minutes to 10 hours. By default, 1 hour is set, with the Hours / Minutes button you can set 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 o'clock. After 10 o'clock comes 0h 20m. and you can change the minutes in 10-minute increments. i.e. 20.30.40.50 m.
Mode - Fry, as it is named, usually fried with the lid open, time from 5 to 59 minutes. with a step of 1 min.
Mode - Oven, the only mode with which the "Temperature" button works (40, 60, 80, 100, 120, 150, 180 g.). The operating time of the Oven Mode is from 20 min. up to 2 hours, changes in 10 min steps. (by default when the mode is turned on - 45 min.)
For the Furnace mode, the manufacturer offers the following temperature-time parameters:
1. Charlotte - 180 g., Time - 30 min.
2. Chocolate - nut cake - 180g., Time - 30 min.
3. Lemon cheesecake - 120g, time - 60 min.
Summarizing the above, I note that the owners of Philips HD 3077/40 can be proud of their helper, such chic stewing and baking modes, there are almost no other multicooker, and the combinations of Fry, Stew, Oven, Porridge, Cook modes create a huge field for creativity when preparing delicious meals.
and how do you know everything
Bulyaka
Please advise which one is better than 3077/04 or 3037? head is spinning
exiga
If you mean 3036, then there is a 4-liter saucepan, a non-removable inner lid (for easier cleaning) and there are no manual settings. So from my point of view the 77 model is better.
zita
Quote: Bulyaka

Please advise which one is better than 3077/04 or 3037? head is spinning
take the first one, there the lid is removed, it can be washed, in others there is no such
elfree
Please advise which one is better than 3077/04 or 3037? head is spinning.

I think you should answer this question yourself, based on your financial capabilities, in any case, you will not regret it!
And by the way, as I understand it, a woman living in Holland, Hayley Watson, was engaged in the development of the Philips HD multicooker, previously she was engaged in space instrumentation. This should also be taken into account. Link:
Bulyaka
Financial opportunities allow. I am interested in the differences in function and feedback from those who cooked
vikkochka
Hello everybody. I bought a Philips multicooker 3037/03. I can't set the time. This is not in the instructions. Can't find information about this anywhere. Help who can
elfree
It seems to me that you just don't want to read the instructions. Try to press and hold the Hours / minutes key for 3 seconds, the hours will blink, use the same key to set the hour, wait 3-5 seconds, minutes will start blinking, set the minutes. Wait a little more until the blinking stops, all the time is set.
vikkochka
Thanks for the advice. I read the instructions, of course where it is written and did not understand. I read here on the forum that you need to click on the CLOCK. I press, hold for 10, 11.12 seconds - NO reaction.

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