zita
Quote: azaza

No, the temperature of the upper heating element is only enough to evaporate the condensate.
does everyone have a light top?
azaza
In a multicooker, the top of the baking always light coloured. After all, heating comes from the lower heating element, and from the side due to the thermal conductivity of the saucepan. To brown the top, turn the cake over and bake the crust on the other side. And turn over already almost ready, well grabbed from above. It is done like this: insert a mounted double boiler into a multi saucepan, turn the whole structure over together, the pie falls onto the double boiler, and you only remove the saucepan - and voila, the pie remains on the double boiler. Now it must be carefully returned to the saucepan with the unbaked side down, and again put on baking for 15-20 minutes.
But only dense pies and bread are made this way. Airy baked goods may fall off. They do it like this: they put it upside down on a dish (with a brown crust on top), and then the pale crown remains hidden from the eyes of eaters. Or the pale crown can be beautifully decorated with cream or jam.
A pale top does not mean that the cake is undercooked. Multi baked goods usually bake wonderfully well, they just don't top-fry.
zita
Quote: azaza

In a multicooker, the top of the baking always light coloured. After all, heating comes from the lower heating element, and from the side due to the thermal conductivity of the saucepan. To brown the top, turn the cake over and bake the crust on the other side. And turn over already almost ready, well grabbed from above. It is done like this: insert a mounted double boiler into a multi saucepan, turn the whole structure over together, the cake falls on the double boiler, and you only remove the saucepan - and voila, the pie remains on the double boiler. Now it must be carefully returned to the saucepan with the unbaked side down, and again put on baking for 15-20 minutes.
But only dense pies and bread are made this way. Airy baked goods may fall off. They do it like this: they put it upside down on a dish (with a brown crust on top), and then the pale crown remains hidden from the eyes of eaters. Or the pale crown can be beautifully decorated with cream or jam.
A pale top does not mean that the cake is undercooked. Multi baked goods usually bake wonderfully well, they just don't top-fry.
Thanks I'll know
azaza
Quote: zita

the covers are not removable in both, I checked and the consultants say the same
Today I again saw Philips 36 and 77. I checked again: in the 36th the lid is not removable. A in 77th very removable
Again, it was not possible to compare properly in size: they are one hundredIt are far from each other. But 77 doesn't look bulky! If it is more than 36th, then only in height, which is logical: there is also a saucepan of 5 liters versus 4 liters of 36th Phil. But this difference is literally a couple of centimeters, not critical.
zita
Quote: azaza

Today I saw Philips 36 and 77 again. I checked it again: in the 36th the lid is not removable. A in 77th very removable
Again, it was not possible to compare properly in size: they are one hundredIt are far from each other. But 77 doesn't look bulky! If it is more than 36th, then only in height, which is logical: there is also a saucepan of 5 liters versus 4 liters of 36th Phil. But this difference is literally a couple of centimeters, not critical.
HD3077 / 40 - removable? how is she filmed? I can't do it, what should I pull for?
zita
Quote: zita

HD3077 / 40 - removable? how is she filmed? I can't do it, what should I pull for?
I found, not the lid itself, but under it, such a plate with rubber bands around. and the top cover is also heated, a wire is connected to it.thank you for the tip, otherwise I cut a circle out of food foil and closed the lid against splashes of fat, now this is not necessary. this model comes out the best of all
azaza
Quote: zita

I found, not the lid itself, but under it, such a plate with rubber bands around. and the top cover is also heated, a wire is connected to it.
This plate with an elastic band around it is a removable lid.
And the wires leading to the top cover are from the heating element. There, the heating is weak, you should not rely on it, it is enough only to evaporate condensate during baking (if, of course, this model is created in the likeness of the 60th Dex). In Dex, the upper ten is also connected during languor. Do you have such a regime?
zita
Quote: azaza

This plate with an elastic band around it is a removable lid.
And the wires leading to the top cover are from the heating element. There, the heating is weak, you should not rely on it, it is enough only to evaporate condensate during baking (if, of course, this model is created in the likeness of the 60th Dex). In Dex, the upper ten is also connected during languor. Do you have such a regime?
boil, steam, heat, rice, porridge, stew, fry, bake - that's all
azaza
Quote: zita

boil, steam, heat, rice, porridge, stew, fry, bake - that's all
Well, plus the manual mode? And there is no baking separately, only by hand?
zita
Quote: azaza

Well, plus the manual mode? And there is no baking separately, only by hand?
well baking and goes separately
azaza
Oh, something I won't wake up in any way - Sorry didn't notice the "oven"!
zita
Quote: azaza

Oh, something I won't wake up in any way - Sorry didn't notice the "oven"!
have you already bought a multicooker or have not yet decided on the choice?
azaza
I have already hung myself on them. I don't choose, I'm just interested in order to be aware of.
zita
Quote: azaza

I have already hung myself on them. I don't choose, I'm just interested in order to be aware of.
and how many do you already have, what
azaza
I have pictures in my profile. Move the cursor over them and the names appear.
zita
Quote: azaza

I have pictures in my profile. Move the cursor over them and the names appear.
why so much, is it convenient? I now want a second, but smaller volume, I'm interested in Panasonic.
azaza
Convenient when the family is large. I have a small one, so one multi and one pressure cooker is enough. But when I took the second cartoon, I was afraid of pressure cookers like fire. And now the second cartoon is mostly idle as a reserve player. The third moved safely to her daughter.
Think carefully: maybe instead of the second multi, buy a pressure cooker right away? A very handy thing!
zita
Quote: azaza

Convenient when the family is large. I have a small one, so one multi and one pressure cooker is enough. But when I took the second cartoon, I was afraid of pressure cookers like fire. And now the second cartoon is mostly idle as a reserve player. The third moved safely to her daughter.
Think carefully: maybe instead of the second multi, buy a pressure cooker right away? A very handy thing!
I don't know anything about them, why are they better?
azaza
They are not better, they are just different. They cook faster and tastier. But the speed is manifested mainly in long-playing dishes, and deliciousness in all without exception. Although yesterday, for example, a stew of frozen vegetables, I spent forty minutes (taking into account the set and release of pressure).
In order not to clog the topic with off-top, I'll throw a reference to the pressure cooker topic. If the pressure cooker as a phenomenon interests you, go and read https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=2924.0
mary_kyiv
The size of the saucepan of the HD3077 / 40 model is very rewarding.
I would like to immediately buy a stainless saucepan for the new cartoon.
Dear owners, can anyone measure the dimensions and post, I think this information will be useful.
Maishka
It seems to me that Dex 60 is not very similar to this 77 and their temperature regimes are different. RICE is being cooked at 130-140 degrees ... (in Dex at 105 degrees.) HE will get fried! But there is a separate program for porridge: 90-95 degrees, it does not boil at all ...? Here is the instruction 🔗
Girls who use 77, tell me, on what modes do you cook and at what time? Borscht, soups interest me, do they boil or barely languish? And the heating itself after what time is turned off, if it is not forcibly turned off ?? (In Dex, I understand 6 hours will warm up?)
zita
Quote: Maishka

It seems to me that Dex 60 is not very similar to this 77 and their temperature regimes are different. RICE is being cooked at 130-140 degrees ... (in Dex at 105 degrees.) HE will get fried! But there is a separate program for porridge: 90-95 degrees, it does not boil at all ...? Here is the instruction 🔗
Girls who use 77, tell me, on what modes do you cook and at what time? Borscht, soups interest me, do they boil or barely languish? And the heating itself after what time is turned off, if it is not forcibly turned off ?? (In Dex, I understand 6 hours will warm up?)
for each program you can set the desired temperature yourself. and I put the porridge with the temperature set in the mode, everything boils perfectly
Maishka
Quote: zita

for each program you can set the desired temperature yourself. and I put the porridge with the temperature set in the mode, everything boils perfectly

Thank you! This makes me happy! And about the heating, did you notice? How much will it heat, if not forcibly turned off?
zita
Quote: Maishka

Thank you! This makes me happy! And about the heating, did you notice? How much will it heat, if not forcibly turned off?
I can't say, as soon as everything is ready I turn off, I really want to eat
Maishka
Quote: zita

I can't say, as soon as everything is ready I turn off, I really want to eat

Okay, well, if possible, test it. The instructions say that heating is 25 minutes by default, but who knows ...
exiga
"Filipka" of course, the instruction is just out! No detailed information, the impression is that this is some kind of brief infa, and the main text has been lost somewhere. The heating after cooking does not turn off in advance, about the heating time, so once I stopped it when the timer was more than 2 hours, which maximum had not yet been figured out. Rice cooks on autopilot perfectly, does not burn, it comes out very crumbly (of course, it still depends on the variety), I take a ratio of 1 part rice (steamed) to 2 parts water, and at the end I can add a little oil. I didn't experience cooking, after reading the forums, I constantly cook stewed soups, boils generally imperceptibly, the contents of the pan move very slowly, and what is very remarkable for two hours of cooking, the potatoes do not boil, but everything is "just" cooked in moderation. I haven't cooked for a couple (in the program) either, just when there is a side dish below, cutlets in a steam basket, everything is also on the table at once!
And finally - "Charlotte: reboot": girl_haha: It was baked according to the standard recipe (4 eggs, 1.5 tablespoons of sugar and 1.5 tablespoons of flour) on the Bake program for 1 hour 20 minutes at a temperature of 150 degrees. After pouring the mass into the pan:
Multicooker Philips HD 3025/03, HD 3036/03 and HD3077 / 40
I'm ready now:
Multicooker Philips HD 3025/03, HD 3036/03 and HD3077 / 40
On the basket:
Multicooker Philips HD 3025/03, HD 3036/03 and HD3077 / 40
Cutaway biscuit:
Multicooker Philips HD 3025/03, HD 3036/03 and HD3077 / 40
Maishka
Charlotte "Reboot" delicious turned out for you!
exiga
Mercy for the compliment! But the first one was so dumb, thanks to the girls, they advised me how to deal with baking correctly!
Maishka
Quote: exiga

"Filipka" of course, the instruction is just out! No detailed information, the impression is that this is some kind of brief infa, and the main text has been lost somewhere.

That's for sure! According to the instructions, in almost all modes, the same temperature is 90-95 degrees. As for extinguishing, languishing, it is very even, but as for cooking and steam it is somehow not enough, I think in fact it is higher.
zita
Quote: exiga

"Filipka" of course, the instruction is just out! No detailed information, the impression is that this is some kind of brief infa, and the main text has been lost somewhere. The heating after cooking does not turn off in advance, about the heating time, so once I stopped it when the timer was more than 2 hours, which maximum had not yet been found out. Rice cooks on autopilot perfectly, does not burn, it comes out very crumbly (of course, it also depends on the variety), I take a proportion of 1 part rice (steamed) to 2 parts water, and at the end I can add a little oil.I didn't experience cooking, after reading the forums, I constantly cook stewed soups, boils generally imperceptibly, the contents of the pan move very slowly, and what is very remarkable for two hours of cooking, the potatoes do not boil, but everything is "just" cooked in moderation. I haven't cooked for a couple (in the program) either, just when there is a side dish below, cutlets in a steam basket, everything is also on the table at once!
And finally - "Charlotte: reboot": girl_haha: It was baked according to the standard recipe (4 eggs, 1.5 tablespoons of sugar and 1.5 tablespoons of flour) on the Bake program for 1 hour 20 minutes at a temperature of 150 degrees. After pouring the mass into the pan:
Multicooker Philips HD 3025/03, HD 3036/03 and HD3077 / 40
I'm ready now:
Multicooker Philips HD 3025/03, HD 3036/03 and HD3077 / 40
On the basket:
Multicooker Philips HD 3025/03, HD 3036/03 and HD3077 / 40
Cutaway biscuit:
Multicooker Philips HD 3025/03, HD 3036/03 and HD3077 / 40
inside everything was baked perfectly and the bottom turned out beautiful, just the color of baking that I like, but the top, like mine, is white, so I don't like making baked goods in a cartoon.
zita
can someone tell me where you can buy a phillips bowl, one is not enough
exiga
Quote: zita

inside everything was baked perfectly and the bottom turned out beautiful, just the color of baking that I like, but the top, like mine, is white, so I don't like making baked goods in a cartoon.
And I just didn’t really like the hard top in a charlotte from the oven, and this one was just to the taste of the family. As for the bowl, I called the local service, they said that they did not have such a position yet. But it seems to me that a bowl from Brand 37501 may come up, although of course you will have to act through Russia (Brand is not sold in Ukraine) Measurements of the Philips bowl: height 15 cm, outer circumference 68.8 cm, diameter at the upper edge 23.5 cm.
zita
Quote: exiga

And I just didn’t really like the hard top in a charlotte from the oven, and this one was just to the taste of the family. As for the bowl, I called the local service, they said that they did not have such a position yet. But it seems to me that a bowl from Brand 37501 may come up, although of course you will have to act through Russia (Brand is not sold in Ukraine) Measurements of the Philips bowl: height 15 cm, outer circumference 68.8 cm, diameter at the upper edge 23.5 cm.

perhaps very similar. if the bowl fits, then you can pick up a removable lid, but what about orders from Russia?
exiga
You can see here, or look for friends in Russia
Stas
Good afternoon, dear members of the forum, tell me who used or knows something about the PHILIPS HD3025 / 03 multicooker, is it possible to cook all the dishes listed in Temka in it, or does she only cook rice? I ordered my wife for her birthday, tomorrow they will bring it, what to expect?
exiga
Quote: Stas

Good afternoon, dear members of the forum, tell me who used or knows something about the PHILIPS HD3025 / 03 multicooker, is it possible to cook all the dishes listed in Temka in it, or does she only cook rice? I ordered my wife for her birthday, tomorrow they will bring it, what to expect?
It seems to me that this model is only suitable for cooking side dishes - rice, cereals ... Unfortunately, baking, long-term stewing is not subject to it
zita
Quote: Stas

Good afternoon, dear members of the forum, tell me who used or knows something about the PHILIPS HD3025 / 03 multicooker, is it possible to cook all the dishes listed in Temka in it, or does she only cook rice? I ordered my wife for her birthday, tomorrow they will bring it, what to expect?
totally agree with exiga! not a very good choice, but as the first cartoon it may be suitable, the wife will learn and buy something cooler
Stas
Thanks to everyone for the advice, I refused the 3025 on time, ordered the Moulinex MK 302E, I think this will be more interesting
zita
Quote: Stas

Thanks to everyone for the advice, I refused the 3025 on time, ordered the Moulinex MK 302E, I think this will be more interesting
congratulations, good choice, I also like multi Moulinex, I want to buy a second such brand, but less in volume
ladyX
Bought HD3077. I chose long and meticulously. Initially, I was guided by Panas, but after reading a lot of reviews about "liquid" pots, I went to the electronics market to see for myself. Reviews of members of the forum and on the pages of and-no stores were not unfounded. I immediately drew attention to the quality of the saucepan in Phillips, I was impressed, but .. When I ordered it from the "Rosette", the consultant sounded exactly for this model, they say, a clear advantage is the setting of manual programs.I listened to the opinion, but now I'm not sure I did the right thing. I use it for three weeks, I'm happy, of course, insanely, but ... In the previous model, as in Panassonica, I chose a program and don't bother, but here you choose the time right away .. In theory, the user does not know the correspondence of gas temperature regimes. stoves, ovens and multi. Moreover, the relay is constantly switched on and off. She cooks delicious food, the main thing is to observe the proportions of liquid and products, but baking ... The first time I baked charlotte according to the recipe in the book, I had to bake it. Maybe because I took twice as many apples as indicated, but ... for the oven this is not a problem. I saw awesome pastries in Panassonica, even in Aurora ... Maybe my hands are crooked and that's all the salt?)
I'm happy with my slow cooker, even very much! I'm in Phillips very good. I like the quality of the pan, and this, you see, is an important argument in favor of this brand. Perhaps, if there was an opportunity (sorry for taftology), I would prefer the same TM, but with clear programs. I have not yet used the delayed start. I cook borscht, pilaf, carcass potatoes. I really like the quality of the dishes, as if from the oven. My husband never ate red borscht cooked on the stove, although the guests always ate it with a bang, but here .. 3 liters of borscht was gone in two days, taking into account the fact that the refrigerator is full of food. In general, I summarize my long dialogue - everything suits me, except for baking, although .. now I come to the conclusion that the best solution is the oven after all).
exiga
Congratulations on your purchase! It seems to me that setting the time-temperature on baking is still more of an advantage, because in recipes, even for Panasonic, I saw instructions such as "unplug it from the outlet after 60 minutes and put it back on baking for another 20", and in Phillips you can immediately set the required values ​​without the need to "take out" something from somewhere. Yes, it may be unusual at first, I also played enough while I found the optimal modes, but after all, with the new oven, at first, there is a period of adjustment "for yourself" But of course the multicooker and the oven in baking are somewhat different, as you like
ladyX
exiga, thanks for the congratulations :) You are absolutely right about baking in the oven. I took a slow cooker only so that I could use my time rationally, I got tired of standing at the stove all the time. She completely suits me and, now I don't even know how I did without her before! And at the expense of baking, most likely I wrote with emotion, I was really looking forward to baking all kinds of goodies for my husband, but here ... Most likely, my pessimism is caused by the lack of baking recipes for the cartoons of this brand. And in general, there are practically no recipes for it. But if we are talking about side dish soups, you can experiment there, but baking requires exact observance of proportions and temperature conditions. But I'm not talking about that now ... Anyone who has a similar problem with recipes, I advise you to look at the recipes of members of the forum in the DEX 60 multicooker section. They are very similar in their functions to the DEX 60, recently it was the only cartoon with a manual programming function.
To everyone who is thinking about choosing a multicooker, I advise TM Phillips. The fact is that a saucepan costs about 50% of the cost of the cartoon itself, and these saucepans are aerobatics: bravo:
In general, I will experiment with recipes from DEX 60, so as not to add products. And according to the results, upload photos here, among the happy owners of the TM Philips cartoon. ;)
exiga
I agree with you completely, ladyX ! The saucepan for me played a decisive role in the choice, because in fact it is the main element of the multi. Share your achievements, we will be glad to interact!
fronya40
ladyX. why do you need recipes for Phillips. I take all the recipes and bake-cook-carcass. So good luck !!!! And we have a lot of recipes on our forum!
zita
a question about the recipe book. recipe for pilaf, cooking is set for 40 minutes, how to understand if you can put no more than 30 minutes on "cooking"?
exiga
Really bad luck! I did not check the programs for cooking and steam cooking, but clicking the buttons came to the conclusion that the inscriptions on these two modes were probably confused, since it is more logical to steam for about half an hour, but you can cook there for up to 2 hours. So obviously you have to pay attention to this. It seems that Brand's cartoons also had a confusion with buttons. And I put pilaf on stewing, in my opinion, a more optimal cooking mode.
zita
Quote: exiga

Really bad luck! I did not check the programs to cook and steam, but clicking the buttons came to the conclusion that the inscriptions on these two modes were probably confused, since it is more logical to steam for about half an hour, but you can cook there for up to 2 hours. So obviously you have to pay attention to this. It seems that Brand's cartoons also had a confusion with buttons. And I put pilaf on stewing, in my opinion a more optimal cooking mode.
on pilaf 30 minutes is a lot, it doesn't burn. 15-20 minutes was enough for me. I made Fergana pilaf from recipes, I liked it more than usual because of the small amount of spices, very light in taste, now I will only make it. now I'm kneading creamy pudding, the picture is very beautiful and tasty, but how will we actually see
exiga
Good luck! And I will definitely try this pilaf, thanks for the tip.
zita
Quote: exiga

Good luck! And I will definitely try this pilaf, thanks for the tip.
Thank you. here again I am writing about the problems, the recipe for pudding. the book says 140 degrees for 15 minutes - do not put such a temperature, only 150, the same time, 20 minutes. this is the smallest, what kind of recipes ((((. put the pudding, but I'm afraid that it will burn
zita
how to insert a photo, teach

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