exiga
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zita
this is what came out of the book, creamy pudding
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exiga
Very beautiful! Have you already tried it?
zita
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Very beautiful! Have you already tried it?
thanks))) already ate more than an hour ago, they said that it was not enough
exiga
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thanks))) already ate more than an hour ago, they said that it was not enough
Congratulations! Highest praise for the cook!
Mari4ka
Girls! I am also faced with the choice of MV. I stopped at Phillips ... and again I can't choose between 36 and 77. Since I didn't have a MB yet, I would probably like it to be more automatic, and not manually set .... Is there more automatic programs in 36, or is it the same as 77, is it possible or even necessary to set everything manually? And if we take 77, will a kettle like me cope with it? Thanks in advance for your reply.
zita
Quote: Mari4ka

Girls! I am also faced with the choice of MV. I stopped at Phillips ... and again, I can't choose between 36 and 77. Since I haven’t had a MB yet, I would probably like it to be more automatic, and not manually set .... Is there more automatic programs in 36, or is it the same as 77, is it possible or even necessary to set everything manually? And if we take 77, will a kettle like me cope with it? Thanks in advance for your reply.
take 77, this is the only cartoon where you can remove the inner cover and wash it, and with time you will figure out the programs
Mari4ka
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take 77, this is the only cartoon where you can remove the inner cover and wash it, and with time you will figure out the programs

but there is also dex 60 .... they also wrote for him here. and like positive reviews, and there are more recipes for it .... if so, which one is better, if you know?
zita
Quote: Mari4ka

but there is also a dex 60 .... they also wrote for him here. and like positive reviews, and there are more recipes for it .... if so, which one is better, if you know?
I wouldn't take dex, I'm for proven brand things
Mari4ka
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I wouldn't take dex, I'm for proven brand things
here I am more likely inclined to the firm check. So then I take 77, and if anything, I hope to help the experienced young teapot
By the way, except in the book included in the kit, can you really find the recipes where? or do you invent it yourself?
azaza
Quote: zita

take 77, this is the only cartoon where you can remove the inner cover and wash it, and with time you will understand the programs
Let me be clear: this is the only cartoon with a removable inner cover. among the Phillips!
The 36th Phil is actually a Dex-60 clone, only the removable lid has been pockmarked. But the program. Dex-60 has a manual mode (temperature and time selection), but the owners rarely use it: there are more than enough built-in modes, enough for any dish, all modes work correctly, you don't need to dry your brains every time, what temperature to set for what time. Judging by the fact that Phil-36 is a Dex-60 clone, everything should be buzzing with the modes too.
It's a master's business, of course, but I don't understand the buzz in such programs where the temperature and time need to be set independently. As an additional function, such a choice is very good - you never know what when you may need it. But so that every time ... You will have to adapt to it for a couple of months, until you master all the modes and time, so that you can go out without jaws. You will exhaust a mountain of products. And then the question is: is such an assistant needed if she cannot do without a mistress. With the same success, you can play with temperature and time on a banal stove - either gas or electric.
Well, if you need a good set of programs, as in Phil-36, and a removable cover, then there's nothing to think about: Dex-60. Or the same robe, but without mother-of-pearl buttons - Phil-36.
zita
Quote: Mari4ka

here I am more likely inclined to the firm check. So then I take 77, and if anything, I hope to help the experienced young teapot
By the way, except in the book included in the kit, can you really find the recipes where? or do you invent it yourself?
great choice. everyone will help with advice, and I will do the same, but I take the recipes not so much from the book, the internet is full, over time you will know exactly how much to cook and at what temperature to set, this is a matter of habit
azaza
Quote: Mari4ka

here I am more likely inclined to the firm check. So then I take 77, and if anything, I hope to help the experienced young teapot
Marichka, Dex multicooker is assembled at the same Chinese factory as the Philips. Philips recently bought out this plant: for him, multicooker is a new word in the range. So he has no experience in a multi-cooker question, one solid name.
But if the name is more important, take Phil. And take the 77th. Girls are bored here to hang out with questions, there are still no experienced ones among them, there is really no one to ask. So you will be together choosing the right time and the right temperatures. Together, it’s more fun. And the collective intelligence means a lot. In six months you will become luminaries.
zita
Quote: azaza

Let me be clear: this is the only cartoon with a removable inner cover. among the Phillips!
The 36th Phil is actually a Dex-60 clone, only the removable lid has been pockmarked. But the program. Dex-60 has a manual mode (temperature and time selection), but the owners rarely use it: there are more than enough built-in modes, enough for any dish, all modes work correctly, you don't need to dry your brains every time, what temperature to set for what time. Judging by the fact that Phil-36 is a Dex-60 clone, everything should be buzzing with the modes too.
It's a master's business, of course, but I don't understand the buzz in such programs where the temperature and time need to be set independently. As an additional function, this choice is very good - you never know what when you may need it. But so that every time ... You will have to adapt to it for a couple of months, until you master all the modes and time, so that you can go out without jaws. You will exhaust a mountain of products. And then the question is: is such an assistant needed if she cannot do without a mistress. With the same success, you can play with temperature and time on a banal stove - either gas or electric.
Well, if you need a good set of programs, as in Phil-36, and a removable cover, then there's nothing to think about: Dex-60. Or the same robe, but without mother-of-pearl buttons - Phil-36.
I agree that she is the only one with a removable lid and only thanks to B: rose: I found out, so thank you very much
exiga
Agree with zita! We will be glad to see one more user of Philips cartoons in our ranks! And about the Dex cartoons, I have already expressed my opinion before, the saucepan is still very important to me, and electronics (no matter how wild it sounds) is a simpler matter. I respect with all my heart the Deksik users and am very grateful to them for a huge amount of information, I have learned a lot from the branch dedicated to the 60th model, but how many people have so many opinions
azaza
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great choice. over time, you will know exactly how much to cook and at what temperature to set, this is a matter of habit
+1000! Gold words! It's a matter of habit. And the question of time remains: when will it become a habit for you?
Mari4ka
Girls, but what is right on each program you need to set the temperature and time yourself? For example, what program is there, "extinguishing", for example, and it does not offer me its time, but I set everything myself?
exiga
completely manual there is only the FURNACE mode, and in other modes you can agree with the proposed program, or you can correct
azaza
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Agree with zita! We will be glad to see one more user of Philips cartoons in our ranks!

And again, golden words! I say - hanging out together and going around an unexplored model is more fun, and the collective mind is better than one head.

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And about the Dex cartoons, I have already expressed my opinion, the saucepan is still very important to me, and electronics (no matter how wild it sounds) is easier.

You puzzled me.What's wrong with the Dex Pan? Time-tested - no mines. It remains to be seen whether the Phillips pan will repeat the dex feats. Most likely it will repeat, the casserole is powerful And seemingly more beautiful than the banal black in Dex. But will Phil's family have spare wheels? This means that you will fit the spare options from Dex, but they should only fit the 36th model. There is a high risk that the owners of the 77th model will be left without reserves at all.
And yet: why did Dex's pots scare you so? The most luxurious pots! They have not yet been invented better. Or if they did, then their quality has not yet been confirmed by the experience of using them. And dex pots have been working for two years already: Dex-50 appeared on the market two years ago, which means that there are no less pots of it. There used to be a Dex-10 with the same pan, but its owners were not noticed here, otherwise they could tell how the pan is doing. Dex-60 appeared a year ago, this year the multicooker has been traveled in all directions, there are no blank spots left. And even then to say: there is nothing to go around, very logical and easy to control MV.
But in no case do I persuade you to Dex! Take Phil-77 - the three of you will hang out, then someone else will pull up. You will master sooner or later
azaza
Quote: exiga

completely manual there is only the FURNACE mode, and in other modes you can agree with the proposed program, or you can correct
So Baking is one of the main modes! If Dex had some mowing baked goods, would he give up to me?
But everything, everything, everything, I shut up. I expressed my opinion, I do not want to repeat myself.
zita
Quote: exiga

Agree with zita! We will be glad to see one more user of Philips cartoons in our ranks! And about the Dex cartoons, I have already expressed my opinion before, the saucepan is still very important to me, and electronics (no matter how crazy it sounds) is a simpler matter. I respect with all my heart the Deksik users and am very grateful to them for a huge amount of information, I have learned a lot from the branch dedicated to the 60th model, but how many people have so many opinions
support!
exiga
I didn't mean to offend Dex's saucepans! Let them serve and please, but again this is my personal opinion. I read a lot of everything about non-stick coatings, often radically opposite information, but the main thing that I realized is that there is stamping, and there is spraying. In Phillips pans, judging by the description of the spraying, it is considered better, do not hit if you are wrong
zita
Quote: azaza

So Baking is one of the main modes! If Dex had some mowing baked goods, would he give up to me?
But everything, everything, everything, I shut up. I expressed my opinion, I do not want to repeat myself.
oh, I was wrong, you can set the temperature and time for baking, forgive me, but I only use baked goods in the oven, I like it better there
azaza
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In Phillips pans, judging by the description of the spraying, it is considered better, do not hit if you are wrong
Nu-nu All, I am silent, otherwise you will beat.
exiga
azaza! After all, that's why he is a forum, so that everyone can express their views
azaza
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oh, I was wrong, you can set the temperature and time for baking, forgive me, but I only use baked goods in the oven, I like it better there
Oh, I can't shut up, I'll shake it up again. On Dex's Baking 130-140 * - ideal for baking. In manual settings, there are only temperatures of 120, 150, 180 *: 120 * is too little, 150 * is already a lot. But if you bake in the oven, then of course, there shouldn't be any problems with baking in Fillet.
azaza
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azaza! After all, that's why he is a forum, so that everyone can express their views
To express - yes, but to persuade a beginner, not familiar with such a technique, to a still unexplored cartoon, with which he himself has not yet mastered ...
exiga

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To express - yes, but to persuade a beginner, not familiar with such a technique, to a still unexplored cartoon, with which he himself has not yet mastered ...
And who is here to persuade the horror?
zita
Quote: azaza

Oh, I can't shut up, I'll shake it up again. On Dex's Baking 130-140 * - ideal for baking. In manual settings, there are only temperatures 120, 150, 180 *: 120 * is too little, 150 * is already a lot.But if you bake in the oven, then of course, there shouldn't be any problems with baking in Fillet.
yes, 140 no, but the recipe says what can be set ((((
azaza
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🔗 here it seems to me in more detail about the coverage
The link does not work. I'd read it, it became interesting myself.
And speaking of links. On the forum, active links (those that open by clicking) are allowed only to intra-forum topics. Inconvenient, but these are the rules

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And who is here to persuade the horror?
I'm on Phil-77
Mari4ka
finally finished reading
what can I say .... just got confused probably still try to find them live to see. And then I was at a loss at all.
Mari4ka
And about Dex they write that the condensate drips somewhere between the pan and something I still don't understand. And that they say the rags need to be pushed somewhere there .... Is there such a moment?
exiga
Quote: azaza

The link does not work. I'd read it, it became interesting myself.
And speaking of links. On the forum, active links (those that open by clicking) are allowed only to intra-forum topics. Inconvenient, but these are the rules
I'm on Phil-77

thanks for the hint about the links, I'll try to drop you in a personal, maybe it will open from there
exiga
Quote: Mari4ka

And about Dex, they write that condensation drips somewhere between the pan and something I still don't understand. And that they say the rags need to be pushed somewhere there .... Is there such a moment?
Condensation is present during cooking, when opened, it flows down the lid, but due to the groove next to the saucepan it does not pour out anywhere, you can just wipe it
azaza
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thanks for the hint about the links, I'll try to drop you in a personal, maybe it will open from there
Thank you, no longer needed. I understood what the problem was: the link was to a "Bread Maker-friendly" site. These links don't work here.
I've even read it. Firstly, there is not a word about dex pans. Secondly, I would not listen so much to the words of not an expert, but a manufacturer of non-stick pans. It was amusing that from the Panasov coating, volvulus can occur (och exaggerate!), And the coating of a domestic manufacturer can be swallowed almost entirely, and no bloat will happen from this (again, I exaggerate). In addition, with the temperature regimes, if he is right, then only about the CF intended for growing. market, because in Dex-60 the maximum temperature is 180 *, and no temperature sensors melt from this. It can be assumed that this Alexander did not hear about Dex, but in Ros. there is a clone of our Dex (or our Dex - a clone of their Brand) with exactly the same temperatures.
In short, you don't have to believe everything absolutely. In addition, I repeat, absolutely nothing criminal about Dex I found in Alexander's answers. This time. And two - I didn't see any laudatory odes to Phil's cover either.
Based on which I still did not understand why you thought Dex's coating was dangerous, and Phil's coating was quite safe. But the question is rhetorical. You have already bought your MV, I have bought mine, and the question of choosing for us no longer comes up.
exiga
I have not written a word about the danger, and I do not consider the text on the link to be a "valid" opinion, which, however, I trusted. But it's just me
azaza
Quote: Mari4ka

And about Dex they write that the condensate drips somewhere between the pan and something I still don't understand. And that they say the rags need to be pushed somewhere there .... Is there such a moment?
Marichka, there are two types of multicooker: with drip trays and without them. C are panas-like, round in shape. Elongated drip trays do not have. That is, with rags, roughly speaking, you will have to run around both Dex and around any Phil (except for the rice cooker - there should be a drip tray).
But all this "running around" is purely conditional. When cooking on the stove, what do you do with condensation? Whether you cook soup, or fry something under the lid, condensation will form. When cooking on the stove, the hostess usually sends this condensate into a saucepan so as not to stuck the stove. In MV, you can also send it to a container with food if you open the lid slowly.But personally, I like to open the lid quickly and collect the moisture from the lid with a cloth. If you open the lid not slowly enough and not fast enough, moisture will collect in a special groove between the side of the multicooker and the saucepan. At the same time, condensate should not get into the MV socket, where the saucepan is inserted - there is also a side there. This is if you immediately wipe off the condensate every time you open it. And if you allow it to accumulate there, then it can get into the nest, since the side there is not high.
Mari4ka
Thank you for your help, girls, and for your responsiveness! I will still think. I wanted to see them alive, but it was not there! there is no foxtrot, the technopolis is also in the span, the Eldorado too ... who looked at them where?
fronya40
I saw in Comfi
azaza
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there is no foxtrot, the technopolis is also in the span, the Eldorado too ... who looked at them where?
Marichka, you would have indicated in your profile where you are from, otherwise it is not clear who you are asking for advice. Foxtrot on Petrovka was full of both 36 and 77 models.
zita
Quote: Mari4ka

Thank you for your help, girls, and for your responsiveness! I will still think. I wanted to see them alive, but it was not there! there is no foxtrot, the technopolis is also in the span, the Eldorado too ... who looked at them where?
I bought in Tair, this is Simferopol, but I did not see them in the comfi, this store is nearby and I often go there
Mari4ka
Quote: azaza

Marichka, you would have indicated in your profile where you are from, otherwise it is not clear who you are asking for advice. Foxtrot on Petrovka was full of both 36 and 77 models.
and DEX?
azaza
No, Dex wasn't there. But he is the same as Phil-36, only that is all silver, due to which it seems more advanced. And the rest is the same (and in terms of dimensions as well). Only in Dex the lid is removable, and the saucepan is black, but of gorgeous quality.
Mari4ka
or another question: Phillips has a cooking function, as I understand it for soups. And in Dex there is nothing like it. In what mode then cook the soup there? Excuse me for such meticulousness ...
Lozja
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or another question: Phillips has a cooking function, as I understand it for soups. And in Dex there is nothing like it. In what mode then cook the soup there? Excuse me for such meticulousness ...

In Dex, as in most multicooker, first courses are cooked on Stew. And in general, most of the dishes in the cartoon are cooked on Stew. Manufacturers of new models are doing it more cunningly - they add the word Varka or Soup to make it clearer.
An inexperienced user thinks - here, this model is better, you can cook Soup in it, others do not have this program. Very cleverly calculated, marketing, in a word.
exiga
There are a few misfortunes with cooking at the Phillips, I wrote earlier that the names of the buttons "cook" and "steam" are probably confused (at least in 77 models). Since in the "cook" mode the time is maximum 30 minutes, and "for steam" for some reason 2 hours. But Brand, beloved in all Russia, also had the same oversight, which, however, did not affect the supporters of this brand - it was simply taken into account in the subsequent production. And about "brand-not brand", then Phillips has a network of service centers, but the Dexes, at best, can only be changed, for some reason they do not undertake to repair, it seems to me also an important moment! I contacted the local Philips office, so I was assured that within a few months it would be possible to buy both spare bowls and lids (just now, due to the novelty of the model, the supply of additional elements has not yet been properly established). And in general, the impression is that there is some kind of Phillips' anti-advertising, and in the "native" thread. It's up to you, Mari4ka!
zita
I agree, everyone is just ready to gobble up our cartoon! And for what, for the fact that it is better?
azaza
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I agree, everyone is just ready to gobble up our cartoon! And for what, for the fact that she is better?
Zita, in order to assert this, you need to use at least a couple more multicooker. And nobody eats your cartoon, you misunderstood something. It was about choice. And to choose the best tested by many people.Your experience with exiga is still not enough, you yourself have not figured it out with your cartoon yet, you still have many questions about the operation of its modes, you yourself are not satisfied with everything in it, and you already recommend it to others, and even call it best cartoon of all times and peoples available on the market.

Girls, without running into Philips. Perhaps the Cook mode in your cartoon has a lot to do with rice. Any multicooker is primarily a rice cooker, because initially the device was invented by Asians specifically for cooking rice. In all multicooker rice programs are the first in the menu, and they can be called whatever you like: Rice, Groats, Boil, Cook, etc. Cooking in Fillet, what is on the menu? It is very similar in intensity to the Par program. The difference is that the steam room simply boils the water for as long as you ask, and the rice programs in the multicooker are always automatic: that is, you pour rice, pour water in the right proportion, and turn on the cartoon. Then it begins to "cook" (this mode is often translated this way), and turns off after the water has completely evaporated. In different multicooker it takes different time, the general thing is that this time cannot be changed in one direction or the other, it is not even displayed! The duration is "floating", 35-50-55 minutes, the countdown starts 8-10 minutes before the end of the program, before that the monitor does not show anything (or the current time if the real time clock is set in MB). Can I change this time in Fillet? In other cartoons, the preset time is not even written in rice programs, since the cooking time depends on the amount of water and rice, which may be different each time. In Philae, as I understand it, this time is indicated. Does it match? Have you already used this mode? If it does not turn off automatically after 30 minutes (and it should not turn off if there is still liquid in the saucepan), then this is indeed a rice program.
azaza
I looked at the list of programs in the 77th Fillet.
8 functions for preparing a variety of dishes - cooking, steamed, heated, rice, porridge, stewing, frying, baking. - anywhere you can set the desired time and temperature !!!!!
Are they in that order on the menu? Most often, there are two or three rice programs in the MB, or even more (it happens that each type of rice has its own program). And most often the main one is located on the first button (which, sometimes, is translated as Cooking, Boiling or Boil), the second is almost the same, but for a small amount of rice. You have Rice in a separate mode, and in the list I have given it is in the middle of the list. If I'm right, and Cooking is rice, then one of these two modes is most likely intended for a small amount. If Cook - 30 minutes, probably this is it. And Rice, perhaps for any quantity. What time do you have there - is there a pre-installed one, can you install it yourself? Oh, also very important: rice programs are usually not put on a timer. Is it possible for you to install these programs with a delayed start?
exiga
All programs except "bake" and "fry" have a delayed start option. As for separate "rice" and "cook", there is a different temperature. I have already shown the plate with modes and temperatures in the answer No. 28, you can compare the temperature and time in different modes.

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