natalka
Quote: Wildebeest

That's it, it's too late to drink Borjomi
And don't need Borjomi, you need champagne - for a new super-helper!
I have no doubt that you will not regret it.
Rina
Natasha, just duplicate your place of purchase in the relevant topic. Quite a few of your fellow countrymen are also looking for such saucepans, and your information can help them a lot.
Wildebeest
Quote: natalka

And no Borjomi, you need champagne - for a new super-helper!
I have no doubt that you will not regret it.
That's it, I'm already cooking buckwheat - an experimental dish on duty.
The pot inspired me with confidence: the non-stick coating inside and out. The bowler hat itself is thicker than that of Panas. I fall in love with an Italian woman, but Panas is my first love.
natalka
First - Yes, this is Panasonic, but my first love is now mostly resting (in gratitude for past merits). Somehow recently, I cook all the soups in Unite, and the rest in Italian. But there are days that are especially busy with cooking, and then I connect Panasonic and both bread machines (in one bread, in the other dough for pies), and the work can also go to the Airfryer with MasterPlov. Eh, I would like to load them more, but the family cannot cope with so much food.
Wildebeest
natalka
Today I poyuzala a little Italian: in terms of power, it turns out to be average between SV and Panas. Each of them is good in their own way. Can I now buy a 6.5 liter slow cooker in addition to them?
But a whole series of questions immediately arises: will they not trample me out of the house? And where to put all this?
Today, when I announced to my friends that I was going to pick up the multicooker, they looked at me with bulging eyes. I believe that the trail was twisted at the temple.
I brought an Italian woman, brought her into working order, began to cook buckwheat first, then stewed cabbage with leftover meat products. It turned out very tasty. The Italian has a very good gentle stewing mode. My son-in-law goggled and asked me to order such a miracle for him too. Tomorrow he will go to pick up.
Although we live in the same apartment, we eat separately. We are very happy with this. But mine often come to me for a treat, or often ask me to cook something, knowing that they will not bother me at the stove.
natalka
Slow cooker .... I don't know .... I never wanted it for myself and did not see the need for it. Many people use this saucepan with great pleasure, judging by the reviews, but I don't understand it (slow cooker). I always don't have time to cook. Much slower than in Panasonic extinguishing, so it stretches for several hours. For me, this is an awfully long time, I always remember everything at the last moment, and that's why, lately, I give preference to the Pressure Cooker and Italian, the speed of cooking in which I am very happy. Perhaps someday I will want a slow cooker, I do not deny it. Probably, I have not yet felt this unit, have not grasped its features and its place in my life and in my kitchen, so I have not fallen in love with it, and therefore I don’t want to.
natalka
Quote: Wildebeest

My son-in-law goggled and asked me to order such a miracle for him. Tomorrow he will go to pick up.

That's how it is with us. First they ordered one for themselves, and then two more for relatives. Friends looked at us and ordered one for themselves, and then two more for relatives. We laughed here
Wildebeest
Quote: natalka

That's how it is with us. First they ordered one for themselves, and then two more for relatives. Friends looked at us and ordered one for themselves, and then two more for relatives. We laughed here
If I hadn't read about all these things on the Internet, I would have passed by in the store and my heart would not skip a beat.
I have some dense aunts at work. I tell them about the bells and whistles, and they look at me as an alien. That I am telling them something from the realm of fantasy. True, two more progressive ones bought according to Panasik three years ago.
Many, many years ago I saw HP in the store. My thoughts are: "Why is she needed, bread can be bought in the store. We are completely nuts. Bake bread at home. Into idiots." Now, for these words, I would have cracked my own head so that ...
In the Italian woman I was glad that the dough can be defrosted in the "yogurt" mode. There the temperature is set at 38C.
natalka
In the same picture. I also enlighten my surroundings, and they, in turn, move further. True, I myself found out about multicooker only here, on our favorite forum (now it has been a long time ago). Yes, I generally picked up an incurable disease here, expressed in a wild thirst for buying new devices for the kitchen. My kitchen is not small, and the space is getting smaller and smaller. The desire only to buy everything does not subside. Every trip to the store ends with a purchase. Not always large (pah-pah-pah), but at least I'll buy some garbage. It's like dope. Without shopping, it already breaks down like with drug addiction. The mood is falling, the state of depression and recharge with new clothes is necessary.
Wildebeest
I have some advantage over you.
I only go to online stores, I go to stores only to touch the coveted device with my hands. Sometimes a disease is cured once and for all.
But my space is very small, but I want devaaaaaaysiks. Plus, they provide health benefits.
Now I am in Italian on the "crust" mode fried 3 legs. The eaters liked it, I myself did not eat, but only bit.
natalka
I also study online stores regularly, but this does not help me much, it still pulls in real life between the shelves. Well, I can't live without it.

But the Italian is all the same LOVE! I'm not overjoyed!
Wildebeest
Quote: natalka

But the Italian is all the same LOVE! I'm not overjoyed!
Today I put yogurt right in the bowl for the night, I'm not ready for portioned jars for lack of them. And I have a cool sourdough, brought from Finka. Fermented in milk with a fat content of 2.5%, so it turned out so thick. True, I did it in a clay pot. I have such a thing.
Now the Italian has put forward a new challenge: to buy portioned jars for yogurt. You could use mayonnaise, but we don't buy anything like that.
obgorka_gu
Quote: Wildebeest

Today I will put yogurt right in the bowl for the night, I am not ready for portioned jars for lack of them. And I have a cool sourdough, brought from Finka. Fermented in milk with a fat content of 2.5%, so it turned out so thick. True, I did it in a clay pot. I have such a thing.
Now the Italian has put forward a new challenge: to buy portioned jars for yogurt. It would be possible to use mayonnaise, but we don't buy anything like that.
from under baby puree - the very thing! And the slow cooker is a cool thing, to help the cartoon, if there is no gas or problematic (a bottle), I bought it and hid it before moving to an apartment without gas, and now with great pleasure I use a large (3L) clay glazed pot in the oven, I work out recipes especially for myself for a slow cooker ... without water or with a minimum, for a long time on low heat, everything turns out great (the family also likes the idea that it’s not in Teflon for so long also heats up, although I love everything), you don’t need to dance around either, I have put in food - I closed the lid and at least sleep (during the day), at least do other things. after 3-4 hours I turn it off (usually I don’t get it), and it remains warm for another 4 hours (or maybe more), it is very convenient when you don’t know what time the eaters will come, and I really like that everything is soft and at the same time the vegetables do not boil - in what I laid it in this practically and took it out, only settled down slightly (it is especially interesting that the zucchini and pumpkin behave this way, which I like to put on top for juiciness ...)
Wildebeest
Quote: natalka

Wildebeesthow? How did the yogurt turn out? I would like to hear a review.
With such a leaven everything will turn out.
Yogurt was made right in the bowl. Looked in four hours later. The yogurt was ready. But I left it for another 2 hours. The total difficulty I did it for 6 hours. Made one and a half liters.
In this case, the good thing is that you can make yogurt of a fairly large volume, I think three liters is bold in the case of Malanyin's wedding.
Wildebeest
Quote: lga

And what does the SHORT mode mean? Toasting from the bottom at the end of cooking? Or how?
Yesterday I fried chicken thighs on this mode. The duration of the standard mode is 1 hour 30 minutes. The thighs were stewed well during this time, and the underside was fried until a pleasant crust.
The son-in-law was pleased that the chicken went through a long heat treatment.
Today, in a new (son-in-law) unit, I prepare thighs in a different way.
The "frying" mode, after 5 minutes turned over. Now I will fry the other side for 5 minutes and put it on the stewing mode for 1 hour. These are the plans for today.
And I'll put yogurt in a new cartoon for the night.
By the way, I was cooking buckwheat in a new saucepan, I had to remove something from the lid and wash it out of the valve. Apparently, just in case, it was worth greasing the walls of the saucepan with oil.
Or maybe I cooked it in a sadistic way? The "steam cooking" mode for 5 minutes and the "bain-marie" for 20 minutes. Then she stood in a disconnected saucepan for some time.
natalka
Quote: Wildebeest

Or maybe I cooked it in a sadistic way? Mode "steam cooking" for 5 minutes and "bain-marie" for about 20 minutes. Then it stood in a disconnected saucepan for some time.

I think yes. "Steam" is a very strong boil. I, somehow, did not have to cook porridge in Italiana yet, but as I understood from the discussions, this is done on the very first program "Cooking", it seems to be automatic, in the sense that it itself determines the duration of cooking.
Wildebeest
natalka
I have adapted to boiling buckwheat in SV. I manually set the time for 2-3 minutes, then wait for the pressure to subside. I always let all porridges stand on the warmer for more steaming. I am looking for the best way to cook buckwheat in an Italian.
On the stove, I also let the buckwheat boil for about 5 minutes, then wrapped the saucepan with a towel and in pillows, under a blanket.
Now I will try on soup or cooking mode. But I will let her boil for no more than 5-10 minutes. Then I'll let it stand on the bain-marie for about 20 minutes.
dopleta
Quote: natalka

I think yes. "Steam" is a very strong boil. I, somehow, did not have to cook porridge in Italiana yet, but as I understood from the discussions, this is done on the very first program "Cooking", it seems to be automatic, in the sense that it itself determines the duration of cooking.
I cook porridge in it both on "cooking" (when it is needed drier, before evaporation of the liquid) and on "soup" (when you need a mess). In general, girls, let's discuss the Italian in the relevant topic - Cuchina Italiana - eh?
natalka
Quote: lga

And what does the SHORT mode mean? Toasting from the bottom at the end of cooking? Or how?

I am more and more inclined to think that this program is designed for something like pilaf. What would be baked from below, and at the top had time to cook, it's not in vain that it's a whole hour and a half.
natalka
Quote: dopleta

In general, girls, let's discuss the Italian in the relevant topic - Cuchina Italiana - eh?

Let's. I am for it! But for some reason, all multicooker is actively discussed, and ours has gone into oblivion, the Temka has died out.
SupercoW
so I had a question about buying a new assistant ...
from the first weeks of acquaintance with the cartoon I realized that I would take more. my cartoon makes me very happy because I can not make a choice. on the one hand I want to take a proven one, but on the other ... I want to try something else.
cooking without my participation / presence, night cooking and dairy cooking are very important. the large volume of the saucepan is also important. the rest as usual soups, cereals, meat ...

here's what I think:
- take another slow cooker. the same as I already have, it will conveniently turn out two identical pots, you can change among themselves well and you will not have to adapt on a new one.
- take another slow cooker. but only some other. I can compare, maybe there will be new convenient and necessary discoveries.
- take a slow cooker. So far, I really like this option, but the topic about slow cookers is already 90 pages, but I want to be determined already. The ceramic saucepan is very captivating, but the size is scary (I read that the slow cookers are very large). besides kenwood for 6.5 liters I can't find something in stores.

the airfryer is already there, we cook in it regularly, but really not enough. I recently came to the conclusion that it is more convenient for us to cook at one time. There is no microwave oven, the stove is walled up, so you need to heat it up in a cartoon - it's easier to cook at a time and eat right away, so as not to suffer later.
but it happens that breakfast or lunch can last for several hours. the cartoon, of course, keeps everything warm superbly, but you want to put something for dinner, for example, and the saucepan is busy

this is the situation, what do you think ???
natalka
Perhaps they will beat me here again, but I will say ... I would take Aurora, which is sold in Ukraine, but is very similar to our Italian woman (I just fell in love with her - the functions are too good), only she is a liter more - yours 5 liters. The size is just not small, there are many programs, and the price is very democratic. But to take the second one the same as already is - not interesting, I want variety. I will not say anything about slow cookers, there is no experience, I myself have not yet matured for it.
dopleta
Quote: SupercoW

this is the situation, what do you think ???

And in answer to this question I always answer - a multicooker-pressure cooker.
natalka
Quote: dopleta

And in answer to this question I always answer - a multicooker-pressure cooker.

+100
Really good way out (although I'm in love with the Italian-Aurora, she's just my last toy). A pressure cooker is the right thing. As soon as it appears, you immediately begin to tense up with the question "how could I do without it before?"
Zest
Quote: dopleta

And in answer to this question I always answer - a multicooker-pressure cooker.

And to them also a slow cooker
SupercoW
Quote: natalka

Perhaps they will beat me here again, but I will say ... I would take Aurora, which is sold in Ukraine, but is very similar to our Italian woman (I just fell in love with her - the functions are too good), only she is a liter more - yours 5 liters. The size is just not small, there are many programs, and the price is very democratic. But to take the second one the same as already is - not interesting, I want variety. I will not say anything about slow cookers, there is no experience, I myself have not yet matured for it.
to be honest, I look at her. when I saw an Italian woman at the doplet - I really liked it, and then I saw the Aurora and ...
Probably in my heart it is variety and I want, otherwise I would take my favorite perfezka as a second assistant and did not think - she plows my young fellow !!!

But for some reason I'm afraid of pressure cookers ... something with pressure ... I'm afraid that I won't master it, I cook on autopilot all the time, I can forget to release this pressure, maybe I'll break it. but of course the main reason is that I have not yet seen (or did not recognize) the advantages of a pressure cooker.

I understand that you incline me more towards the second multi? oh, well, I really wanted a ceramic saucepan ...

Quote: Zest

And to them also a slow cooker
her, well, wonderful !!! came for help called !!!
I can do it myself! I guess that in about three months I’ll still want to buy a cartoon now, then in any way I’ll want a slow cooker. I'll buy a slow cooker now, then I'll need another cartoon ... this is probably a clinic ...
a nightmare, so I don’t like to cook, but for those who love it !!! I am afraid to even imagine what kind of torment hostesses experience, for whom the kitchen is a pleasure.

Okay, I get it, it won't work! put the question differently !!!
what to buy first (with an existing cartoon) - a second cartoon, and then a slow cooker or a slow cooker, and then a second cartoon ???
Zest
Quote: SupercoW


Okay, I get it, it won't work! put the question differently !!!
what to buy first (with an existing cartoon) - a second cartoon, and then a slow cooker or a slow cooker, and then a second cartoon ???

"First" I would take a slow cooker for 4.5 - 5 liters.Put yourself quietly for the night a piece of boiled pork-shank-chicken-duck-goose and without any dancing in the kitchen are provided with the second course. With the same success - jellied meat, pea-bean soup, etc., etc. And baked milk, cabbage rolls and stuffed peppers? The list goes on and on

You can leave side dishes, pastries, soups in a slow cooker.

Use a couple of months, maybe you will mature for a multi-cooker-pressure cooker for a change
Rina
SupercoW,
you can use the lottery method - what drops out, then buy.

There should be no problems with an electric pressure cooker - they are now very advanced, but most of them are made according to approximately the same pattern (when I browse imported websites with kitchen appliances, I constantly come across many, many pressure cookers that look the same). You need to adapt to any technique, but a person is a person because he is a learning creature.
Moreover, Ukraine has a choice of at least two options.

A slow cooker is a mess. I really miss a small one now, although I only used it for a few types of dishes.
There is now one small MdV in Ukraine (as far as I understand, 3 liters, I have been looking at it for a long time, but so far I can’t afford one saucepan)
Or look for Kenwood ones - they are just in a good average size. Ceramics are always ceramics, they have great properties.

By the way, it would have turned out SV + MVD (this is the same ELBI and ASDA) together for as much as 750-770 UAH.

Then you would have almost the entire line 🔗 🔗
Zest
Rina72

By the way, many multicooker pressure cookers have a slow cooker function. In this case, it is better to choose an oval slow cooker with a separate device.

I already have three slow cookers - a small one, a large one and in a pressure cooker)) And all are periodically used
Zest
Quote: Rina72

And the properties of the saucepan itself? Where is ceramics, and where is coated luminescent

Duc, therefore I also advise a separate device, but only oval))
Rina
Zest, 🔗 you almost convinced me, but oval is usually 6 liters, that is still a bandura ...
SupercoW
Quote: Rina72

you can use the lottery method - what drops out, then buy.
well, apparently it will have to ...
I just thought I was a sane adult, that I could control my emotions and make mature, deliberate decisions.

yes girls, cool you turned me from the multi and slow cooker to the pressure cooker ... okay, I'll go read it, maybe not everything is lost and there is a chance for a deliberate act.
Rina
Quote: SupercoW

yes girls, cool you turned me from the multi and slow cooker to the pressure cooker ... okay, I'll go read it, maybe not everything is lost and there is a chance for a deliberate act.
Believe me, here ANY choice will be correct.

And here I am off-heating ... the firm declares the application of non-stick coatings on any form. I called and asked about a five-liter saucepan (coating only inside). A nice young man says, "What are the problems? We put on any dishes, it will be more expensive for a piece order than for an industrial one. How much is for such a saucepan? Well, 400 hryvnia."
natalka
Quote: Rina72

How much for such a saucepan? Well, UAH 400 ".

Sibovar in Russia takes for a cartoon saucepan, only the inner coating, 800 rubles. It's like 200 for your gr.
Zest
Quote: Rina72

Zest, 🔗 you almost convinced me, but oval is usually 6 liters, that is still a bandura ...

Her, not necessarily a bandura. I have a small oval - Comfort, 3.5 liters.

But a large, also oval, Morphy Richards, which already impresses with its dimensions.Although, when I define a large animal or a shank there, I am once again convinced of the correct choice I generally keep quiet about boiling jellied meat
Agata21
And I have three cartoons, all different Yummi, DEX and Aurora, and I think that I don't need a slow cooker, since the cartoon has slow cooking. Considering that I have three of them, I can safely use one as a slow cooker, if necessary.
Therefore, to help the multicooker, it is better to buy another ... multicooker.
Rina
Agatha, "and you're right too" (c)
Someone more needs a multicooker with all its functions, and someone just "drags" from a ceramic pot in MVV.
SupercoW
Quote: Agata21

Therefore, to help the multicooker, it is better to buy another ... multicooker.
I would not even think about this question, multicooker suits me very much, but the non-stick coating ... well, it does not give me rest. want something more environmentally friendly.
Pakat
The multicooker is not enough. What to buy to help her?
I’m thinking, too, to buy myself, while on sale ...
ttvttv
Dear comrades! Having lived for 1.5 months with a multi-cooker, I realized 2 very important things:
1. How I used to do without her (well, where have you been?).
2. Missing her!

Thinking about a double boiler, who has both, tell me if this combination is convenient?
celfh
Quote: ttvttv

Thinking about a double boiler, who has both, tell me if this combination is convenient?
ttvttv, I have a little cartoon for about five years. And I have enough of her. There is a small steamer separately, but I never use it, because, again, there is enough multi. And how can I advise you something? It's so individual, it depends on the number of eaters, their preferences, appetite. I think it's best for you to look at the steamers yourself, their functions, compare everything and decide whether or not to take a steamer.
dopleta
Quote: ttvttv

Thinking about a double boiler, who has both, tell me if this combination is convenient?

And why do both? I just pushed the rice cooker into the bins a long time ago, because you can steam cook in the cartoon.
ttvttv
celfh
There are a lot of eaters, everyone has a good appetite, from time to time one person sits on diets - I have already looked at the steamers! So I think m. B. there are people who have both. When I bought a multicooker, I had the feeling that many years ago when I bought the first automatic washing machine, then the washing simply disappeared, and now the cooking has practically disappeared. Moreover, given the too busy schedule of work, a lot at 7.30 I leave at best 19.3 I come back, I'm on vacation now and that's why I'm chilling on the forum, I want to consult the right thing or not.
ttvttv
Quote: dopleta

And why do both? I just pushed the rice cooker into the bins a long time ago, because you can steam cook in the cartoon.
If I make the same cutlets in a cartoon, then it will not be enough for 1 time
Andreevna
Quote: ttvttv


Thinking about a double boiler, who has both, tell me if this combination is convenient?
There is both, and multi -2pcs. After buying a pressure cooker, the conclusion was made: We need one cartoon + pressure cooker (electric) with an insert for steam. The steamer has left for the dacha and there is safely gathering dust as unnecessary.
ttvttv
Quote: Andreevna

There is both, and multi -2pcs. After buying a pressure cooker, the conclusion was made: We need one cartoon + pressure cooker (electric) with an insert for steam. The steamer has left for the dacha and there is safely gathering dust as unnecessary.

Somehow diversity I want different devices to be
dopleta
Quote: ttvttv

Somehow diversity I want different devices to be

And it is right. But, so that at the same time - and necessary! I agree with Andreevna, I also have several cartoon and email. pressure cooker with a double boiler. And there is no need for a separate double boiler for a long time.
Ukka
And I use everything - a slow cooker and a rice cooker and a double boiler.
Today it was necessary to cook more than a kilogram of whole potatoes - of course - a double boiler. We have no gas for 2 days ... And poached eggs in it and a soufflé from a liver with hearts and vegetables ...
And the cartoon with the rice cooker divided the dishes among themselves. if you need to quickly stew something, but under my supervision - a rice cooker. And when the mode or baking is important or something needs to be stewed for a long time - a slow cooker. And a pressure cooker is also in use - meat in a whole piece or legumes or beets.
I really want to buy a multicooker pressure cooker ...
lega
I really regret the absence of a double boiler when I'm going to make a chicken roll. This task is best done by a double boiler. The only thing that stops me from buying a double boiler is its size and what is needed not every day. If there was a kitchen of 40 meters ... then I would definitely start it ...
ttvttv
Quote: dopleta

And it is right. But, so that at the same time - and necessary! I agree with Andreevna, I also have several cartoon and email. pressure cooker with a double boiler. And there is no need for a separate double boiler for a long time.
And I was convinced I need it !!! A colleague at work was presented with a double boiler, she cooked an exorbitant amount of food for joy, and then realized that she brought nothing to her family to eat. Delight the taste of dishes We must take!

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