Grater Burner (2)

[makabusha]

makabusha Thank you, I looked at the final file on purchases - something I was not at all impressed by the difference, I'd better order it later on ozone.

I just can't share any more accurate information. This time I will try to calculate each grater separately, both in euros and in hryvnia, how long it takes, then it will be easier to answer the question about the price. At Ukrainian prices, the main sets are unambiguously profitable, some things turn out one-to-one, and some are hard to find here (plug, insert 4.5 mm), and some are not on sale.
For example, in my city in retail I found only one official point and there they took 520 UAH for the Trend in mid-2012. in my opinion, while from Germany, taking into account the services of an intermediary and delivery to my home, the Trend cost, according to rough estimates, no more than 300 hryvnia. Saving 220 hryvnia is about $ 27. For us, this difference is very tangible. On the Internet at the same time I watched the Trend for 480 UAH. and there would be 20 hryvnia delivery total 500 hryvnia. The difference is about 25 dollars.

I approach the order not from the side of cost benefit, but from the side of benefit in terms of opportunities: I take a set of Prima (we always don't have them), plus plugs for my daughter, add. inserts, add. graters, vegetable cutters with toothed floating blade, Berner knife. Here, and on Ozone, and in our Metro, I can't take it ...

makabush, there on both the Blade - with notches, so in one of these notches close, such as cutting through the slices, and in the second - not, such slices are slightly wavy, like our triangular vegetable peeler. And the second grater - it rubbed like ordinary beetroot, only finely. You are probably confused that one picture is yellow, the second is green, and the third is both green and yellow. So, as far as I understood, there are two versions, both yellow and green - yellow and green julienne-beetroot, and yellow and green slices-beetroot. something like this.

Here in the photo there is no blade at all, where the notches close for cutting into strips ... not one grater, not another, I have already looked through everything for the fifth time.

Girls, I have not processed only the last 4 orders and I already have about 700 euros without the Russians. Exceed UAH 15,000 (about 1300 euros) when making a transfer, in my opinion, I cannot, according to banking rules, without specifying the grounds, bills to whom and for what I pay. So let's make an agreement Monday evening - we stop the collection, Tuesday - only for good reasons))))))))))))).
The Russians will pay separately, they don't count.

I'll tell you about the disadvantages right away ... I've already started to calculate the costs right away, so the euro rate is 11 hryvnia (the first time was collected at 10.85 hryvnia). If I knew what he was going to do .. grow .. fall ..
The carrier's tariff has risen from 27.7 euros per parcel to 8 kg to 30 euros.

Like little things, but still unpleasant ...

and they gave me both Trend and I will accept ... I probably would buy I will accept ...

You had different prima in your hands - which one is more beautiful - orange or green? I broke my whole head.

You had different prima in your hands - which one is more beautiful - orange or green? I broke my whole head.

green prima is definitely prettier than orange trend (from personal communication and testing)
Well, I boast: a multibox from the epicenter, the issue price is 10 UAH with kopecks, subject to further planned improvement for the autonomous existence of each knife insert

[under license]

Girls, an interesting conclusion. The wafer is a classic, if it was bought in the CIS, it is not of German origin. First, I read that yellow piece of paper-instructions that I laid out and it says there: Made under license and under the strict supervision of the Borner company. That is, not by Borner himself. And secondly, in the video of the classic waffles from the Harman site, it can be seen that when the insert is removed, there is no hole there, like in our waffles, there is a solid plate and you can rub it on it and there will be another cutting thickness. And ours seem to be riveting in our native open spaces and just stupidly saved on plastic. About the video, our sharp-eyed Tanyusha Azaza noticed this to me, thanks to her for opening her eyes to this disgrace. By the way, the plastic on it is different to the touch from the plastic on Trend or Rocko, although I bought all this together from one seller, office. representative of Borner products in our city. So it’s impossible to say that this is counterfeit.

[Monochka]

Here is another argument for you why it is better to order these graters on a German website, and not look for where it will be cheaper. In any case, the Germans should have these graters cheaper. Well, if you find this product with us, at the same price, or cheaper))) then you should think about its authenticity.
And the shipping cost is quality price!
Monochkathank you for the photo yellow leaf... right now I will learn from it!

subject to further planned improvement for the autonomous existence of each knife insert

Piano, and you have no box for inserts at all?

And secondly, in the video of the classic waffles from the Harman site, it can be seen that when the insert is removed, there is no hole there, like in our waffles, there is a solid plate

Tanya, where can I watch this video, I wonder how she looks real

[Tanya]

So Tanya I gave a link to the video on this page at the top.
And this is a waffle trend
https://www.youtube.com/w...er_embedded&v=0G4bEyqca4U

Girls, about the graters from "OF-REPRESENTATIVES": I had two Classics - I personally brought them from Germany (in the 90s) - served me flawlessly for 5 years everywhere and for anything, and to this day serves my younger sister, and from the representative office - I took it in Kiev three years ago. This, the second, plastic by the end of the first year of use began to crack, the rivet parted, the teeth crumbled on the pizza grater (and grated - only cheese and boiled beets !!!!!). although the box, the brochure, the inscription on the blades - everything was not undermined by a mosquito. when she once again freaked out because of the defiled cutting, she began to examine it more meticulously: she saw a magic inscription on the grater: WEST GERMANY. how many years ago the trail of West Germany disappeared - I think you all remember. so either it's just an old product, or the decommissioned molds were picked up by the guys on occasion, I don't know. but what we have very good. little chance of meeting a real burner - that's a fact for me. therefore, I was terribly happy, accidentally attacking this joint venture. literally jumped into the last carriage, for which my next Macbush.

Here in the photo there is no blade at all, where the notches close for cutting into strips ... not one grater, not another, I have already looked through everything for the fifth time.

In general, what I got to the bottom of: it was all Berner's translators who made a special effort to confuse us. On the original boxes (which are made in Switzerland), the inscriptions in English are: "finale slice & grate" and "finale slice & julienne", that is, in that and the other is slices, thin slices, like chips. But in one, the slices are accompanied by a julienne cut (too thin straw), and in the second - a fine grate grater. And WITHOUT any color reference! The Germans, on the other hand, translated this matter in their own way: Finalé grün (green, in the sense of the final) - "Feine Reibe und Julienne-Schäler" (fine grater and crooked cut) and Finalé gelb (yellow final) -feine Reibe & dünner Scheibenschneider (fine grater and thin slices). The photos, respectively, do not correspond to the declared ones.
In short, if you need a fine grater and thin slices, I think you have to choose what the Germans call Finalé gelb, and if thin slices and thin straws (julienne), then Finalé grün

Girls hello everyone !!! I also think that if there is an opportunity to buy from the Germans, you should take the minimum chance of getting a fake
and even now I watched the classic waffle video: D most of all I liked that the grater has anti-slip legs (y) girls, and who has already received the parcel and ordered Carly, she also slips, she has rubber bands, I have a problem with that, today I was rubbing a carrot (though on Beybik) so my grater was crawling over the board, maybe if I buy a pot, it will be better

[Natasha]

I have a question about Prime ....
I understand that the 10 mm knife insert has only 1 position (unlike 3.5 and 7, they still move forward and are set harder for a finer cutting). But 10 only in one position (alignment of the arrows) and when pressing on its base, the knife part rises. Is this how it should be?
Everything works well except for the cubes. Where can I watch a sensible video on them?
And still something falls out of the fruit holder. What I am missing is some kind of spring inside the fruit holder.
She showed miracles to her family, everyone appreciated it very much. I liked the color and the basin itself.
In general, I strongly advise everyone to buy a boat. Very convenient and tidy. Then you can also pave other graters on it.

By the way. I, too, immediately followed the Germans with both hands, well, they will not sell fakes for themselves. And here we have a quality guarantee! Thank you Natasha for this opportunity and her work!

[Elenka]

Elenka Yes, 10 has only one position.

Cubes on Prima show a bit in this video, somewhere from 6.49 in time, only very quickly

There seems to be no separate concrete video for cubes.

On something long, such as a huge carrot, a cucumber, you can first like on a waffle grater - draw it straight, then turn it 90 degrees, again straight, again 90 ... With the fruit holder, it is better to turn it 45 degrees as in the video - otherwise it will hit and knock on the blades)

Thank you girls! I will watch.
Today I quickly and finely cut vegetables for soup, but I needed diced potatoes for the bean soup. I cut them into 10 pieces, and then grinded each one, but I didn't guess to cut the potatoes on the holder first ...
It is necessary to learn how to cut the diamond cubes with the holder. I somehow cannot understand this geometrically yet ...

[Elenka]

Elenka with the fruit holder, I also stupid at first) I had a plug with movement - the fruit holder was turned 45 degrees, and you had to move your hand straight ... I strove to the side where it was turned) Train, the main thing the first few times, then it will become habitual and on the machine will go

[Elenka]

Elenka with the fruit holder, I also stupid at first) I had a plug with movement - the fruit holder was turned 45 degrees, and you had to move your hand straight ... I strove to the side where it was turned) Train, the main thing the first few times, then it will become habitual and on the machine will go

Thanks, i will do my best. : flowers: I have no choice - I have to study.

Today we got an internet connection, finally. So I have now reviewed all the videos. So the uncles deftly rub everything, And with me, starting from half of the vegetable, it starts to fall out of the fruit holder
But today I grated cabbage for pickling, so generally play. and my mother had been cutting with a knife for half a day, up to calluses on her hands. So my stripes are thin, long. Super.
I really don't know what to do with Carly

Today I grated a carrot (though on Beybik), so my grater crawled across the board, maybe if I buy a pot, it will be better

Baby does not get on the Sudok like other graters.

Tanya: D I understood only this one grater does not become, the rest lie on the sudok

In general, what I got to the bottom of: it was all Berner's translators who made a special effort to confuse us. On the original boxes (which are maid in and the other is slices, thin slices, like chips. But in one of the slices, a julienne cut (too thin straw) is attached, and in the second - a fine grate grater.And WITHOUT any color reference! The Germans, on the other hand, translated this matter in their own way: Finalé grün (green, in the sense of the final) - "Feine Reibe und Julienne-Schäler" (fine grater and crooked cut) and Finalé gelb (yellow final) - feine Reibe & dünner Scheibenschneider (fine grater and thin slices). The photos, respectively, do not correspond to the declared ones.
In short, if you need a fine grater and thin slices - I think you need to choose what the Germans call Finalé gelb, and if thin slices and thin straws (julienne) - then Finalé grün

I return all your thanks for just one investigation with small grains)

Girls! who ordered an insert for 4.5? is it worth ordering? is there a difference between 3.5 and 4.5? or is there no difference?

[Natawa]

Natawa here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...=2844.0 there is a photo of cutting on all inserts, including 4.5 compare

Girls, I now have two Trends in my house, bought here and packaged for a gift, bought with the first joint venture in Germany. And that's how the conversations went here that the Nashin graters are not quite as good as those bought from the bourgeoisie, and so I decided to unpack this German and compare. So:
Externally - the frame is absolutely the same. The German Trend immediately sat down on a rectangular vessel, right into it. Our Trend had to be poked a little while it got up. Rubbed on a German grater with its included inserts. It seemed to me that the ease of cutting is no different on the same inserts and the Trend purchased here. It is very easy everywhere. But this is on the inserts included in the kit.
And I tried to rub it on the German Trend for extra. insert 10 mm (also German). So here it seemed to me that rubbing was easier and she got into the Trend, rooted to the spot, and on my Trend she slightly backlash.
But here is insert 1.6 German, I already wrote, on my "domestic" Trend dangled a little. So, in German, she also does not sit tightly, but there is still a bit of backlash, maybe not so big. I bought 2 of these inserts, both of them fit into their native German Trend not "tightly". I haven't rubbed 1.6mm on the German Trend yet, maybe I'll try it tomorrow. And then my husband has already come, I'm encrypting myself, I can't legally spread all my wealth.
Now more. Our 10 mm insert and the German insert are absolutely identical in shape.
But the 3.5 and 7 mm inserts from the kit are slightly different in shape. Here is a photo of these inserts, where on the left is the German one, on the right is bought here from the office. representative Borner, from left to right - 3.5mm, 7mm, 10mm:

How does this affect the cutting, I have not yet felt, it is possible that in no way, but it was done only so that it would be clear at which of the factories it was made. Just like on the German Trend and here I ordered Carly last time - the inscription on the Borner pen (in German) is cut through, and on the purchased Trend and graters here - it is squeezed out on the plastic.
Here's a study.

[Tanya,]

Tanya, I was not too lazy to get out of bed and go to check my inserts. I have a Trend basic set of 2005, purchased from the Berner, a representative office in our city, declared on the website. And it had a 3.5 mm insert as your German, and 7 mm as your local. Well, 10 came together, you can not distinguish from yours.

and even now I watched the classic waffle video: D most of all I liked that the grater has anti-slip legs

The waffle-spiral Classic purchased at the office site in Russia has these anti-slip round NO... It is generally very different from the one shown in the video.

Well done Tanyaflowers: I was not too lazy to compare and I was upset interestingly, and Prima bourgeois differs from the one sold with us

[Piano]

Piano, but you have no box for inserts at all?

not only do i not have it, my toad won in this question I don’t want him for the runoff of euro money, but I wasn’t impressed to attach the inserts on the back of the prima every time - the teeth were knotted; inserts in the closet and this will be comfortable.

well, yes, yes ..... an incomplete set without a multibox ... I'll try to survive.

And Roko with a waffle and Prima got a wonderful chorus in a bucket from lego

most of all I liked that the grater has anti-slip legs (y) girls, and who has already received the parcel and ordered Carly, she also slips, she has rubber bands, I have a problem with this, today I rubbed the carrot (though on the Beybik) so I have a grater crawled on the board, maybe if I buy a vessel it will be better

[/ b]Slastena, there are no rubber feet on Carly (only on the main frame). But Carly doesn't slide like Baby. The baby slides due to the thin legs, on which some kind of rubberized-silikon pads are asking for. For some reason, the Germans did not take this moment into account. I also hope for sudoku, maybe it will be easier. And I grated carrots today on Baby on Carrot Sponge Roll. Rubbed it the way I need it. But at first she slid))) I had to press the Beybik's handle to the edge of the rectangular vessel and hold them together. It turned out much more convenient.
I tried to grate the carrots on the minced stuffed pepper on the 3.5mm insert on a smaller thickness. turned out to be tiny, I wanted to grind another carrot, then squeezed ... threw these cubes. The finished peppers looked very much even nothing.
And somehow I didn't really make friends with the holder. At first it rubs normally, but as I start to press the button, the vegetable immediately flies out.

Well done Tanyaflowers: I was not too lazy to compare and I was upset interestingly, and Prima bourgeois differs from the one sold with us

And why was upset, rub it, I wrote equally well, Trends with basic inserts. And at 10 cm it seemed that it was easier to rub, so it seemed like that. I rubbed only a few potatoes. It would be interesting to compare other graters, Roko, for example Nashenskaya and German. And other graters. But I don't have any more doubles. Now I ordered Macabushe and Roco and Deco old and Pizza-grater. But it will be possible to compare only upon receipt.

Primo Nashinsky, too, I think, no worse than German tinder.

And today I ordered just such a teatrochka in an online store, as Ksyushka-Blyushka bought, the Twin-trend is called.
Here she is on Ksyusha's right:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=170448.0
It's like a Baby Greater, but in Trend design. Becomes on the Sudok. And then, they say, Baby slips on weight. I wanted an orange one, but they hadn't been there for a long time and they said that the grater was out of production and instead of it the Baby Greater, which is now being made. And the Twin Trends sell out the leftovers where they still remain, and only white ones. So in a week and I will have one!

Tanya spasibki got a little better, but I still love the little girl dearly, I also participate in the joint venture, I ordered Rocko, Deco-star and a baby only with a handle, it may be easier to hold, there it seems to me a little more in the picture by the way Twin-trend also liked very much only we have no trace of them

[Piano]

Piano let's experience together. I also don't have a box for inserts and I'm not going to buy it.

nila I make 7.5 cubes of carrots in peppers. The very thing. And I don’t do 3.5 cubes at all - I can’t think of where these could fit)))

[Tanechka]

Tanechka, Congratulations! We will be with you now and Twindrowned.

So they told me that they had never seen such orange ones.

They didn’t see, but they were like that. The girls suggested who took the orange one here. And Lilya, the owner of this shop, confirmed that they had sold out before I had time, in short. But soon there will be no white people, so you and I jumped right on the bandwagon of the running train!

[Tanyush]

Tanyush, may of course have been when. But we do not even remember about it. Fortunately, at least the white one was snatched. And at the price almost ridiculous. Mine was released in December 2004. Estimate the reserves since what time.

[Tanya,]

Tanya, I was not too lazy to get out of bed and go to check my inserts. I have a Trend basic set of 2005, purchased from the Berner, a representative office in our city, declared on the website. And it had a 3.5 mm insert as your German, and 7 mm as your local. Well, 10 came together, you can not distinguish from yours.
The waffle-spiral Classic purchased at the office site in Russia has these anti-slip round NO... It is generally very different from the one shown in the video.

I also have 3.5 as German (bought in Ukraine from an office representative, but it was an old display case), and 7 as local, although it was bought at the same time.

Tanya spasibki got a little better, but I still love the little girl dearly, I also participate in the joint venture, I ordered Rocko, Deco-star and a baby only with a handle, it may be easier to hold, there it seems to me a little more in the picture by the way Twin-trend also liked very much only we have no trace of them

So you order via the Internet. When I searched on the Internet and on Ukrainian sites, and on Russian ones I met. Here, I looked, I found several at once across Russia:
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And here there is even an orange one and is 100 UAH cheaper than in the first one:
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And then I did not look, but there is still.

Oh girls, look, this is the first time I've seen such a waffle V-shaped. Written by Borner. Is there really such a thing?
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Girls, well, weigh me for the Deco-star plate (trendy waffle), pliz

[Tan]

Oh girls, look, this is the first time I've seen such a waffle V-shaped. Written by Borner. Is there really such a thing?

Tan, there were such. Doppleta seems to have just such. But I could be wrong. I only remember talking to someone about her.

Girls, well, weigh me for the Deco-star plate (trendy waffle), pliz

With instruction paper 158-159, weight jumps

[Tan]

Tan, there were such. Doppleta seems to have just such. But I could be wrong. I only remember talking to someone about her.

Yes, Dopleta definitely has it.

Tatyana: flowers: so that I could do without you, my thought flashed to search on Russian sites but something quickly flew away

That I just looked in a couple of minutes. You dig around, you will find a lot of places where it is more convenient for you both in price and in delivery. In general, I will order everything on the Internet right now. Very comfortably. And the post office is in the next house. I'll order a day, in a day or two, I'll take it. There, their employees already know me by name and surname and can serve me without a passport.

Girls, well, weigh me for the Deco-star plate (trendy waffle), pliz

I have 157g with a piece of paper and a bag

[Tanechka]

Tanechka, Congratulations! We will be with you now and Twindrowned.

So they told me that they had never seen such orange ones.

And I saw these at the official representative and they were orange. Is it really a fake?

[Graziella,]

Graziella, why just a fake. Maybe not. Also from the stocks 100 years ago there are still orange ones.

The girls who have been here on the site for a long time: Mona, Azaza, makabusha and others, you are so tasty and accessible telling about graters that the "Burner" Company should pay you for advertising, and even for demonstration and comparative characteristics in pictures! You are already the official representatives!

I was not lost, I had a business trip today, so I didn’t write, and last night after all the additions and corrections the numbers in the plate did not come down, somewhere 5 euros were lost)))))))) I checked it before midnight and spat, went to bed by asking for help from T.A., who organized the Russians. Today I opened a personal account, and there T.A. found the lost evil 5 euros, for which she thanks a lot. : girl_skakalka: In the evening, a little later, I will comb the plaque, lay it out for inspection for those whose orders were corrected, and then I will give a command to pay.

[Piano]

Piano let's experience together. I also don't have a box for inserts and I'm not going to buy it.

nila I make 7.5 cubes of carrots in peppers. The very thing. And I don’t do 3.5 cubes at all - I can’t think of where these could fit)))

I fell in love with cutting a 3.5 onion into cubes, it is very good to add it to Herring under a fur coat in this form ...

Girls, today my second order came with Berner! Yesterday I was worried that my waffle had no bottom ... I was in a hurry to buy myself ... Wouldn't it be that the whole set from the Germans would be of high quality and would have been cheaper ...
Well, the bitterness of awareness cannot spoil the joy of acquisition!
Uryayaya! We can say that Uncle Berner now lives at my house with a complete combat kit!
Prima, waffle, pizza grater, baby, sudock, insert 10, peeler and spiral knife. Carly and Rocco didn’t take because I realized that I don’t want them!
Now I solve a problem almost every evening, so that I can still crumble? The process is so exciting! I cooked soup and got carried away when cutting cabbage, I also had to make stewed cabbage ... I shaved it to a stump in an instant!

Uryayaya! We can say that Uncle Berner now lives at my house with a complete combat kit!
Prima, waffle, pizza grater, baby, sudok, insert 10, peeler and spiral knife. Carly and Rocco didn’t take because I realized that I don’t want them!

1. Pts nice that Uncle Berner finally got into the house where they wanted him, congratulations, be friends for a long time!

2. Carly and Roco should be taken. For example, Roko makes such wonderful matches from apples ... And Carly is the leader of the first joint venture. So we must take. just the realization of the need will not come now

I also have everything except Roko, Kombichipser and Kombislicer, I don't see the need for these graters for myself