vladimirIl
Quote: VLAN

oh, okay, why, have I seen the glass?
IMHO, there is still only steam on the glass will be visible ... do not poke holes in the apparatus. Or do you have a paw in the service and if you would fit a new cover for yourself?

On the avatar, it's not me - it's my friend, but even he won't split the warranty item.
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There is no pair, the process can be seen no worse than on the built-in nedopanasonics.
And then one owner of the athetical "HORIZON" got me here, that his device is better ...
The real benefit of glass, only when I'm not baking on the machine - it allows me to control the rise without fear of breaking the thermal regime, and since I hardly bake on the machine, it turned out to be a very useful thing.
And only something business - glass cutter, sandpaper and ten minutes of time
And the dispenser can be returned to its place instantly, as soon as you need it

Mona1
Quote: vladimirIl


Well, don't tell me. My friend has a "Horizon", ours is Belarusian.
There is only Belarusian label - they copied "Scarlett" stupidly, and copied badly.
So he struggles to claim that his stove is better (it has 2 stirrers), and the bread bakes tastier.
I don't argue with him, just don't change my 2501 for these two:
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Because of him, I put glass in my stove
By the way, about the glass, how thick is it? And then soon my hands will reach this improvement, or rather the hands of my husband from my poke. We must be fully armed. And this is ordinary glass or some kind of heat-resistant or, what is there, bulletproof. Hee-hee ... And yet, it just lies, there are no cracks on the sides? I keep thinking how to make it more hermetic.
vladimirIl
Mona1,
Ordinary window glass, thickness 4 mm
It just lies, left cracks on the sides on purpose:
firstly - the dispenser also has alkalis, which means that the thermal regime is designed for them,
secondly - reluctance to scratch the stove
At first I was afraid that it would burst, and then I got tired of being afraid and
... one minute before the end of baking, sprinkled water on it,
it has safely evaporated before the end of baking signal

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vladimirIl
Yes, I won't scratch my beauty. Now I will look for glass. Well, when not necessary, it comes across a lot, we changed the windows for plastic that year, threw out so much. I'll go right now, my beloved gently incline to the glazing.
Andrzej nov
Simple window glass .....
Friends, you remember the faceted Soviet glasses, how beautifully they boasted ...
Glass is not the same. Heat resistant to find not a problem from any old oven for example.

The idea is to make the curtain of the dispenser transparent.
vladimirIl
Andrzej

tempered glass is used in ovens, it is quite problematic to cut the required size out of it
A piece of glass measuring 6x14.5 with a thickness of 4 mm is quite strong, enough for a window.
By the way, when in the cold, we poured boiling water into faceted glasses, warmed ourselves with tea and did not think
what can "bang beautifully"

"The idea is to make the dispenser shutter transparent." - meaning? will be smeared with raisins and you will not see anything
Mona1
Quote: vladimirIl


Ordinary window glass, thickness 4 mm
It just lies
And when you open the common lid in order, for example, to control the bun, does the lid become vertical, even slightly backward, the glass does not fall out?
vladimirIl
Mona1
But where does it fall out of such a hole.
To pull it out, you need to open both covers and push with your finger from below
Vanya28
Quote: Andrzej nov

Simple window glass .....
Friends, you remember the faceted Soviet glasses, how beautifully they boasted ...
Glass is not the same. Heat resistant to find not a problem from any old oven for example.
The idea is to make the curtain of the dispenser transparent.

Where to add a flashlight?
Apparently heat resistant.
Andrzej nov
"The idea is to make the dispenser shutter transparent." - meaning? will be smeared with raisins and you will not see anything

In my opinion, raisins through the dispenser in your version are generally excluded?
Andrzej nov
Quote: Vanya28

Where to add a flashlight?
Apparently heat resistant.

Lantern, if you need it Pts, add it anywhere. According to their fabrications. Any....
Mona1
Quote: Andrzej nov

In my opinion, raisins through the dispenser in your version are generally excluded?
If the oven is according to the program with additives, then yes, unless you manually fill it in, although why then a dispenser? But I, for example, use the first Main Program or the Rye program much more often. And there is no need for a dispenser. The glass will stand all the time. And if you wanted to have raisins, then this is 3 seconds of the case - open the lid and remove the glass. You take out the dispenser when you wash it after use, isn't it difficult?

And you, VladimirIl, hold on, the experimenters are now only being bitten, and before they were burned at the stake. Let's break through! People often cannot appreciate the benefits of the new, especially if you are doing this alone, it seems wild and stupid. You can, of course, renounce the idea, as Giordano Bruno did in his time, but it is better to stay where you are and say, BUT IT'S ALL SO IT TURNS! as Galileo Gallilei said.
But for those who criticize, you can try and do it, especially since it's finally not difficult to see, and suddenly it's really cool. And do not shut up right away. If you don't like it, the trash can is always there. Moreover, there is no need to break, drill, scratch anything on the stove.
vladimirIl
Quote: Mona1

And you, VladimirIl, hold on, the experimenters are now only being bitten, and before they were burned at the stake. Let's break through! People often cannot appreciate the benefits of the new, especially if you are doing this alone, it seems wild and stupid.
But for those who criticize, you can try and do it, especially since it's finally not difficult to see, and suddenly it's really cool. And do not shut up right away. If you don't like it, the trash can is always there. Moreover, there is no need to break, drill or scratch anything on the stove.

Duc, I, like that, on the drum. What I do is needed first of all to me.
And I share my crafts always and with everyone, just because I think -
what is useful to one normal person may be needed by another normal person.
All my technique serves me exactly as I want.
The one that does not want to - simply changes to a more flexible one.
Any manufacturer, even Panasonic, will never be able to take into account the desires of all consumers,
so you have to finish, redo almost everything for yourself - from a cast-iron frying pan to a 50 "TV.
Thank God - he is healthy, hands are in place and brains are not drunk.
And those who bite, for the most part, call their neighbor to hammer a nail, or change the light bulb.
May God give them a lot of health and all kinds of benefits - I earn money from them.

Soon my stove will be illuminated
it is not really necessary, but just in case, and the light in the kitchen will not need to be turned on every time you want to check the process.
But in order to do how I want to, you need to open the stove, drill the covers, and it is under warranty,
and to do, just to do - only time to waste.
And I wanted, no more, no less, to illuminate the display, and when you open the lid - a "heat-resistant" light inside





Quote: Andrzej nov

In my opinion, raisins through the dispenser in your version are generally excluded?
Why not?
Is there something for you, or is someone bothering you, if you want to spy on, pull out the dispenser and throw glass in its place, opening only the top cover?
Mona1
Quote: vladimirIl


Soon my stove will be illuminated
it is not really needed, but just in case, and the light in the kitchen will not need to be turned on every time you want to check the process.
But in order to do how I want to, you need to open the stove, drill the covers, and it is under warranty,
Yes, I also thought about highlighting, but I will not go as dramatically as you.My HP stands near the empty wall, I have long wanted to hang a lamp on it so that the general light would not be on in the evening, but so that it would be slightly illuminated - my husband loves to watch telly in the evening when he is alone in the kitchen. So, why doesn't this lamp shine directed towards HP? It's like an aknekdote, One comrade (we will not refer to nationality) chose to rent an apartment so that the windows were opposite the street lamp.
Lazy
Quote: vladimirIl
And I wanted, no more, no less, to light up the display
It's okay, the warranty will run out, I'll think about it too. One bright white LED, and powering it inside will not be a problem.
vladimirIl
Lazy ,
Two LEDs of any (whatever you like) color are placed on the sides of the display inside the stove.
I used to light up a Chinese curculator
with power, I also figure it out, there will be no problems, here's a decent button to find only
Strong
Quote: vladimirIl


1. What I do is needed first of all to me.

2. All my equipment serves me exactly as I want.

3. Any manufacturer, even Panasonic, can never take into account the desires of all consumers,
1. I really respect people who tell others
helpful tips!
2. I, too, always strive to refine everything that I can, and I am also sure that everyone wants this, but not everyone can do it.
3. How many people, almost as many desires
vladimirIl
Quote: Strong

2. I, too, always strive to refine everything that I can, and I am also sure that everyone wants this, but not everyone can do it.


Maybe everyone, not everyone wants
After all, it must still make an effort - that's the problem.
Andrzej nov
2. All my equipment serves me exactly as I want.

3. Any manufacturer, even Panasonic, will never be able to take into account desires of all consumers,

Wit
Quote: vladimirIl


Two LEDs of any color (whatever you like) are placed on the sides of the display inside the stove.
I used to light this Chinese curulator
with power, I also figure it out, there will be no problems, here's a decent button to find only
Are you planning to install a piezik louder instead of a barely audible tweeter? Yes with music. You won't hear this squealing while playing football or an action movie. Tear out a musical card and ... pour the song out into the open!
sazalexter
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ALISAYA
Quote: Wit

Are you planning to install a piezik louder instead of a barely audible tweeter? Yes with music.
I strain my phone in tandem with the stove to work. On Nokia E 52, when setting the alarm, it is very convenient to display the time before the call (like on a stove). I correct it to a minute, and then wait for the call.
Sanya04
Thank you vladimirIl for a timely hint, one must try. But everything is in order. Recently I became the owner of such x \ n, before that Kenwood served faithfully for 4 years, baked it exclusively, the stock sleeve was re-sharpened many times, but there were no complaints, that's when the processor was covered, I read reviews and bought Panasonic. Disappointment came immediately, does not bake. There was a desire to slightly increase the holes for the steam outlet, but I'm sorry for the new stove, I tried the stove without a dispenser, better, I will try with glass.
Lazy
Quote: Sanya04

Disappointment came immediately, does not bake. There was a desire to slightly increase the holes for the steam outlet, but I'm sorry for the new stove, I tried the stove without a dispenser, better, I will try with glass.

It cannot be, I have not met such reviews that bread is not baked. The reason is in the recipe, that is, in the flour / water ratio. Without a dispenser, the volume increases, the heat transfer from the baking zone through the top cover to the outside increases, the thermal insulation, on the contrary, is worse. To make up for heat loss, the heating element is switched on more often, the electricity consumption increases.
Sanya04
I will say this, in Kenwood, the reflector in the lid is much better (mirrored) + a viewing window, while the crust was always ruddy, beautiful, and visually, the ten was heated more, and here it was not a stove, but some kind of double boiler.
sazalexter
Sanya04 You are not confusing anything.This Kenwood has a pale crust and is completely not baked.
Problems with the new kenwood bm 450 stove
Bread in the Kenwood 900 bread maker does not bake and breaks when taken out
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On the contrary, Panasonic tends to bake bread, especially sweet ones. Check the recipe, if it doesn't work, you are welcome Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (3) we will deal with the whole world
Creamy
Quote: Sanya04
Disappointment came immediately, does not bake.
According to Stanislavsky "I do not believe." Unless the marriage of a separate stove, all members of the forum are happy with Panasonic.
Sanya04
I'll ask you to post ONE, but a proven recipe + step-by-step instructions, I'll try.
sazalexter
Sanya04 Simple white bread from the instructions for HP. Most importantly, use a flour scale and a glass of water. Dry ingredients, yeast, flour, salt-sugar, water. In general, according to the instructions for HP. More details
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Sanya04
Thank you. I'll try. Unsubscribe.




I found it in the instructions (for a bread machine, not a cooker), it's really funny. I could not insert a photo into the message (, instruction manual, page 35, gives advice, bake bread in a gas stove !!!!
sazalexter
Sanya04 Go with problems to a specialized topic, from the beginning
Help, nothing happens with bread !!! (Ambulance)
then
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Lazy
Quote: Sanya04

I found it in the instructions (for a bread machine, not a cooker), it's really funny. I could not insert a photo into the message (, instruction manual, page 35, gives advice, bake bread in a gas stove !!!!

In the instructions for SD-2501 on page 35, only this item I found.

How do I make my crust crisp?

For a crisper bread, use menu 08 (SD-2500: 07) or
set the crust color to 'Dark', or even place the bread in the oven and bake
an additional 5-10 minutes at 200 ° C / at 6 for a gas oven.
Sanya04
That's right, this point is in question. The whole problem is apparently in the heating element (TEN), yesterday for the experiment, at the next attempt to bake something, I smeared a little dough on the shiny surface of the lid. The dough has dried, remained white, without signs of frying, this gives rise to a turn to the product. I think it's a marriage.
Argentum
Soon I will become the owner of 2501 (used, but PANASONIK ), I will definitely accept it for the introduction into being on my unit.

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