azaza
Lingonberry, as practice shows, few people stop at one multicooker. Initially I didn’t want her at all, I thought it’s an electric pan. And a month after the appearance of the first multi, she thought about an urgent replenishment of the cartoon family.
As a start - the Viscount is quite a worthy unit. And then decide what functions you lack in it. And Brands by that time, you see, will be on sale.
Lingonberry
Quote: Luysia

Lingonberry, how come not? THERE IS!
Just looked - there is! But yesterday was not, or my head is already really bad

Attempt # million))) I'll try to order))))
Lingonberry
Quote: Omela

Lingonberry, It's a pity that we did not succeed with Panasonic. And Brand also has a pickup - you can drive up and pick it up.
Oksan, I came to that store, I already paid, but here is such a bummer ((((There was Mvideo nearby, went there, they said there was in Domodedovo, decided that there was no hook for the mad sabaki, I went - and again NO In general, I arrived home empty-handed, only 600 re wasted on the road in vain (((
Oca
Quote: azaza

as practice shows, few people stop at one multicooker. Initially I didn’t want her at all, I thought it’s an electric pan. And a month after the appearance of the first multi, she thought about an urgent replenishment of the cartoon family.
Uh-huh By the way, why can't I hear anything from kVipoint? (Reply # 1107, multicooker KROMAX ENDEVER MC-77) March 8 is coming soon, but I can't decide what to choose: KROMAX or Supra MCS-4531? It seems to me that they whistled about the "manual setting of the mode, time and temperature" - I suppose they called the Stewing and Baking modes that way, where the mode really sets the temperature, and the time is set with buttons. I like the silver Supra more - it will be a pair for Panasonic. But I'm waiting for an answer from kVitochka, what if Kromax is better? I will buy again blindly from the site, otherwise there is no place anywhere ...
Lingonberry
Quote: Omela

Ol, horror. May you be lucky with Brand !!!
Oh, Oksan, God forbid. I'm not going to go myself yet, I'm sorry for the denyuzhek Next Saturday my sister will be in Moscow, promising to go after her, so I will order next week.
Keti
Brusnichka, go to this page, and contact the person SVP (Vadim) is a representative of the Brand. He will also give you a discount, since you are registered on this forum.
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=80474.80
Omela
Quote: Lingonberry

so I will be ordering next week.
Oh, or maybe just order NAV, otherwise they will suddenly disassemble. And indicate that you will be picked up next week.
Lingonberry
Keti thanks for the hint (I'm still not very good at the forum). Even if there are no discounts, Temka will still be useful to me.
Quote: Omela

Oh, or maybe just order NAV, otherwise they will suddenly disassemble. And indicate that you will be picked up next week.
Oksan, I just asked this question to Vadim, I will wait for him to answer.

Girls, everyone from March 8!
LightOdessa
I have Vikosha, I am very pleased with it, Looks very much like Panasonic, I ordered a gray one, the functions are almost the same as those of Panas, the only drawbacks are that you need to turn off the power (the light is blinking) and automatic programs such as Baking and stewing start with a long time - 1 hour and 2 hours respectively. Steam cooking - from 20 minutes, heating - from 20 minutes. But the quality of the prepared food is quite.
annnushka27
Hello, help me decide. I choose between Dex60 and Liberton 05. I want a bigger bowl, the family is big. And then they write for 5 liters, but in reality it is much less.
iman081
girls tell me, but in a slow cooker you can fry whites, pasties, etc.etc.? Does it replace the function of a deep fryer (pour a lot of oil and the whites float in it)? or fry like a pan? and how much oil is consumed. If there was such a question, give a link
IRR
Quote: annnushka27

Hello, help me decide. I choose between Dex60 and Liberton 05. I want a bigger bowl, the family is big. And then they write for 5 liters, but in reality it is much less.

annnushka27,

Liberton has a bigger pot - 5 liters, Dax has a liter less. But! Dax is knocked down stronger, and more functions. IMHO. I have both. (I'm bringing Liberton to the service the other day, I was capricious, less than a year has passed)

IRR
Quote: iman081

girls tell me, but in a slow cooker you can fry whites, pasties, etc.? Does it replace the function of a deep fryer (pour a lot of oil and the whites float in it)? or fry like a pan? and how much oil is consumed. If there was such a question, give a link

iman081,

fried well multicooker, in which there is a program ROYAL. In Ukraine it is DEKS-50, 60, in Russia - Brandy, etc. Define the profile where you live more precisely, it will be easier to orientate yourself.
Not much oil is consumed, I like to fry cutlets in MV (it does not spill fat - juicy)
annnushka27
Quote: IRR

annnushka27,

Liberton has a bigger pot - 5 liters, Dax has a liter less. But! Dax is knocked down stronger, and more functions. IMHO. I have both. (I'm bringing Liberton to the service the other day, I was capricious, less than a year has passed)
Thanks for the answer. I can't decide in any way, we have three children, so we need a bigger pot, cook mostly porridge, the second, we hardly eat fried, I bake it in my favorite electr. oven. It's just that, if Liberton, I can take it now, but I need to dig a little for Dex, but I want to take it once and not regret it. What do you advise?
By the way, we are almost fellow countrymen, I live near Simferopol!
Oca
Quote: annnushka27

I can't decide in any way, we have three children, so we need a bigger pot, cook mostly porridge, the second, we hardly eat fried, I bake it in my favorite electr. oven. It's just that, if Liberton, I can take it now, but I need to dig a little for Dex, but I want to take it once and not regret it.
Practice shows that the only multi-cooker "for one time to buy" is not enough. 7 liters capacity! There are also models for 10 liters, but I have not seen them on sale, but I was holding this model in my hands, strong, solid. Maybe buy a multicooker and a pressure cooker?
Lozja
annnushka27, I remembered that there is also Orion for 5 liters, it has a lot of programs, probably more than that of Dax, that is, it is good in functionality. The price is within 500 UAH. I won't say about the quality, but it seems like we also have Temka on the forum, look.
iman081
IRR, thanks for the quick response. I am in Moscow. the question arose of buying a deep fryer. but the cartoon is also hunting: yes: so I thought to combine two in one
annnushka27
tell me, is there a topic in comparison with multicooker and pressure cooker? Can't understand how they differ? And what do I need more?
And why did I even visit this site a few days ago? She lived in peace, was happy with her oven.
Oca
Quote: annnushka27

tell me, is there a topic in comparison with multicooker and pressure cooker? Can't understand how they differ? And what do I need more?
And why did I even visit this site a few days ago? She lived in peace, was happy with her oven.
Believe it or not, I've been asking the same question for several months! The forum has a special aura, many who get here are infected with the deviceaholism virus
I will quote Alexandra's answer from the site about multicooker, I bothering the local people with questions about what and how. So: "... in multicooker modes differ in temperature, heating intensity. Hence the variety of essentially different programs. And in pressure cooker the principle is one - cooking under pressure, for which you need to quickly bring the temperature to the maximum. Therefore, the temperature will be the same, only the time is different (well, the pressure level can be changed in some models).That is, cooking with an open valve does not completely turn the pressure cooker into a multicooker, since there is no microprocessor (note: rather there is no thermal sensor), which determines the temperature difference in the modes. In some models of pressure cookers, operation is generally impossible with the valve in the "open" position - the pan "swears" and turns off. "
I read about my cartoon in the topic "The principle of operation and capabilities of the Panasonic Multicooker" https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/fo...5%D0%B6%D0%B8%D0%BC%D1%8B in the middle of the page, various cooking modes are interestingly painted.

The pressure cooker cooks like this: it boils, builds up pressure - cooks for a given number of minutes - relieves pressure regardless of the readiness of the food.
The multicooker cooks smarter: boils - monitors the temperature / boiling off of water - is there water in the porridge? - then we cook further ... The cooking time for the porridge is not predetermined and can be from 30 to 90 minutes.
Omela
Quote: annnushka27

tell me, is there a topic in comparison with multicooker and pressure cooker? Can't understand how they differ? And what do I need more?
annnushka27 , the topic is here: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=4171.0

Quote: Oca

And in pressure cooker the principle is one - cooking under pressure, for which you need to quickly bring the temperature to the maximum. Therefore, the temperature will be the same, only the time is different (well, the pressure level can be changed in some models).
This is not entirely true. CUCKOO 1054 has the ability to set temperature, time. There is also a function for cooking without pressure (i.e. multicar).
azaza
Quote: Omela

This is not entirely true. CUCKOO 1054 has the ability to set temperature, time. There is also a function for cooking without pressure (i.e. multicar).
Mistletoe, with all due respect - the girl is looking for a budget option for a kitchen assistant. Cuco 1054 is clearly not the option. But the thing is good
Omela
Quote: azaza

Mistletoe, with all due respect - the girl is looking for a budget option for a kitchen assistant. Cuco 1054 is clearly not the option. But the thing is good
azaza , with all due respect - I am for truthful information. In the post I quoted, the phrase:

Quote: Oca

Therefore, the temperature will be the same, only the time is different (well, the pressure level can be changed in some models).

is not correct. I just pointed it out.
azaza
Well, so as not to get up twice. Annushka, don't look at the pressure cookers now. Don't be fooled by the name. It is justified when boiling cold, legumes or tough meat. In almost all other cases, the time is approximately equal to the time it takes for this or that dish to be cooked in the cartoon. In addition to the 8 (or how many) minutes declared for the dish, it will take time to cook in a pressure cooker to build up the pressure, and then release it. In this way, the cooking times in the pressure cooker and the multi are equalized. In the case of cooking long meals, yes, the pressure cooker is quite justified there.
I do not argue that a pressure cooker is a good thing (even if it's a budget one). But its applicability in the kitchen is not as universal as cartoonish.
Oca
Quote: Omela

This is not entirely true. CUCKOO 1054 has the ability to set temperature, time. There is also a function for cooking without pressure (i.e. multicar).
Omela, thanks for the clarification, did not know. This is already a multicooker with a pressure cooker function. Dreams, dreams, but where to get money for this? I saw a live Bork in the store yesterday (and its price), I was envious ...
PySy The multicooker is more functional than the pressure cooker, IMHO.
azaza
Quote: Omela

azaza , with all due respect - I am for truthful information. In the post I quoted, the phrase:

is not correct. I just pointed it out.
No, well, you can't argue against that, especially if you don't really understand pressure cookers I'm not about theory, I'm about a specific person looking for kitchen happiness.
annnushka27
Quote: azaza

Well, so as not to get up twice. Annushka, don't look at the pressure cookers now. Don't be fooled by the name. It is justified when boiling cold, legumes or tough meat. In almost all other cases, the time is approximately equal to the time it takes for this or that dish to be cooked in the cartoon.In addition to the 8 (or how many) minutes declared for the dish, it will take time to cook in a pressure cooker to build up the pressure, and then release it. In this way, the cooking times in the pressure cooker and the multi are equalized. In the case of cooking long meals, yes, the pressure cooker is quite justified there.
I do not argue that a pressure cooker is a good thing (even if it's a budget one). But its applicability in the kitchen is not as universal as cartoonish.
Thank you, that's me, for general development. Tell me, can I cook something in Liberton in the evening, so that I can get up in the morning, and the dish is ready? Is it a non-removable lid? I feel another sleepless night awaits me.
annnushka27
And yet, maybe someone knows where to buy Liberton at a cheaper price? In our city, if ordered, they will bring it for 550, but you do not have to pay for delivery.
azaza
Quote: annnushka27

Thank you, that's me, for general development. Tell me, can I cook something in Liberton in the evening, so that I can get up in the morning, and the dish is ready? Is it a non-removable lid? I feel another sleepless night awaits me.
Why not be able to? You can. A timer is conveniently set there - in most multicooker, you need to calculate how many hours the dish should be ready. Liberton (as well as Dex) has a built-in clock, and you just need to specify the desired time. And the lid is removable.
And a sleepless night, alas, is guaranteed. Because no one except you can make a choice. It's up to you to decide which multicooker to buy. We have already made our choice, and, mind you, no one has yet regretted it. Hence the conclusion: no matter what cartoon you buy, you will be satisfied with the most. But, as I said, your joy will not last long. Because, having bought a multicooker, you will understand how much you still lack in the kitchen to complete happiness.
Do you know what I'll tell you? Run away from here as soon as possible, as long as the Wishkino swamp does not suck you in forever. Just buy the cartoon first, and immediately run away
azaza
Quote: annnushka27

And yet, maybe someone knows where to buy Liberton at a cheaper price? In our city, if ordered, they will bring it for 550, but you do not have to pay for delivery.
Annushka, here you can to order for 477 UAH Make a request for yourself, see what they will answer, how much the delivery will cost to you.
A month ago in Kiev you could buy a large Lieber for 460 UAH. Now at best 482 (this is one of those that can be bought, not ordered). But how much will the delivery cost? To the carrier's office 15 UAH plus services directly from the carrier (mainly by New Mail).
In general, it is better, of course, to look closer to home. Or, as an option, wait until summer, and then people from Kiev will reach out to the sea, you see, and what opportunity will turn up. On the other hand, the price may rise during this time. Or maybe fall. A couple of weeks after my purchase, Libertosha fell by 50 UAH. And now the price has leveled off again.
In general, I only confuse you even more instead of helping. So I leave you alone in the night with the throes of choice
Sofim
annnushka27
buy immediately the most suitable multicooker in terms of functions and size. It's not at all a fact that you will want to buy a second one. I have a Panas-18, bought when there was nothing else. It suits me and I don't need the second one. Yes, and a place is needed, but I already have MV, HP, a coffee maker, a kettle, a combine. And I bought Aurora to the dacha so as not to carry it. But two or more at once? For very large families or fans of cooking. And so everything can be cooked in one MV. During the day, you can cook so many dishes that you do not eat in a week The main thing is that the CF matches your needs as much as possible Good luck!
Lozja
Quote: Sofim

During the day, you can cook so many dishes that you won't eat in a week

It is so if you are at home all day and you have this whole day at your disposal. Now imagine that from 8 to 17 - you are at work, or from 9 to 18, and in the evening you come and try to somehow manage to cook everything, and the first, and the second, and dessert. And here the lack of a second multi is acutely felt and one has to resort to the services of a stove. I'm not talking about myself, I'm in general. Although, it happens to me.
Sofim
Correct in its own way.But it seems to depend on family eating habits. I have a cake and a cupcake for several days, and they also love buns-cheesecakes from the oven ... Well, in general, let everyone decide for himself how many multicooker he needs
Oca
Quote: azaza

Run away from here as soon as possible, until the Wishkino swamp has sucked you in forever.
Do you know that all sorts of ideas for "wishlist" and the purchase of equipment return the main thing - the desire to cook, and not only simple, but also unusual dishes, awaken regret to experiment. As I remember what happened before ... pots, pans, heavy ducklings, grease splashed everywhere. Now a lot has changed. We live together, eat at home a couple of times a day. I noted the time spent on cooking - 3-4 hours. During this period, chicken was fried (in an airfryer), porridge was cooked for a side dish, bread was baked, several muffins were cooked and the soup was almost cooked (this is the lack of a multicooker for the soup). On an ordinary stove, I managed to keep track of only 2-3 dishes at a time. Do not be afraid of your wishes, because each of them brings benefit and joy (if this is not the 10th multicooker in a row).
IRR
Quote: Oca

(if this is not the 10th multicooker in a row).

and even 10, there would be a place. Curiosity is the engine of personality development. And the rest is 100%. is not even discussed. I think, azaza-Tanya, I just meant a threat to the budget (she already has 2 of them). Well ... it is we ourselves who are scaring each other here - a deterrent, to shuffle. true, ineffective
julifera
When there are a lot of them (cartoon and pressure cookers), it turns out a wonderful distribution of responsibilities for ease of use.
In one, a small amount of porridge comes out more convenient and tastier, in the other - a large amount, in grated it is more convenient to fry, in the fourth - it is more convenient to languish, there the beans come out better, there are soups, etc.

I don't know how anyone has it, but I have such a character - if something is inconvenient to cook - I either abandon this business or seek opportunities to remove the inconvenience and then my hands will be torn to do everything

Of course, I like to regularly walk up the hill, to take the height, so to speak, with obstacles, but only in another area, but in the kitchen I love - so that everything is perfectly harmonious
lega
Quote: julifera

When there are a lot of them (cartoon and pressure cookers), it turns out a wonderful distribution of responsibilities for ease of use.
In one, a small amount of porridge comes out more convenient and tastier, in the other - a large amount, in grated it is more convenient to fry, in the fourth - it is more convenient to languish, there the beans come out better, there are soups, etc.
Right! Absolutely right! In general, I treat cartoons like ordinary pots ... Can you imagine a hostess who has only one pot? And how is the cartoon different? only because she needs an outlet ... and a place ... in their closet, in the closet ... you don't keep all the pots and pans on the table top, do you?
azaza
Quote: IRR

I think, azaza-Tanya, I just meant a threat to the budget (she already has 2 of them). Well ... it is we ourselves who are scaring each other here - a deterrent, to shuffle. true, ineffective
Aha, IRR, that's what I meant. I have two of them, and I am absolutely delighted with them! Today I made a spontaneous presentation. A friend came to visit, she had already heard from me about this miracle, but still doubted the need for multi. Until today, I only cooked porridge for a dog on the machine, and I didn’t poke my nose into baking. The rest was cooked under close scrutiny. Not that I don't trust the cartoon - I just really like this process (by the way, Wasp is absolutely right - with the cartoon, interest in cooking wakes up, before it was hard labor for me). And today, for the sake of interest, I simultaneously laid products in two multi products, both partially frozen, partially fresh. I seasoned it right away (which I had never done before, in principle I salted and seasoned at the end of cooking), launched the programs and handcuffed myself to the battery. Figuratively, of course
The result exceeded all expectations !!! I, of course, adored my mullets before, but I have never experienced such delight.
And I'm also incredibly glad that I have two of them.I would like both the third and the fourth, but their acquisition will be unjustified. I’m at home all day, my family - my husband and I, and a quarter of a medium-sized dog (my Yorkie is elderly). But such a joy to cook in two cartoons at the same time !!!
No, well, I would have had a gas stove, perhaps I would not have thought about the second cartoon. But I have electro, and two multis in my case seem to be even a necessity. And it is many times more convenient to cook, and savings on electricity.
In a very short time, I acquired a bunch of devices (I caught the Bread Maker virus. Ru!). I love HP and AG. I love it. But ... they didn't surprise me. They perfectly do exactly what I expected of them. And from the multicooker, I expected a banal duplication of the stove, and from the first day she began to show me wonderful wonders. Therefore, I have a special, sublime attitude towards cartoons. They deserve it
annnushka27
And I keep thinking, choosing, there is time until Friday, you need to order on Friday, it makes no sense before, for goods only on Saturday we go. Dex or Liberton, Liberton or Dex? Already my husband agrees, and there is enough money for Dex. Faster would be Friday.
azaza
If there is enough for Dex-60, take it. And if the saucepan is smaller, you will cook more often. In cartoons, cooking is not work, but pleasant leisure.
And there, save up on Liberton. The cheaper it is, the easier it will be to save up for a second one. And run from here, run! And don't say you weren't warned
annnushka27
Quote: azaza

If there is enough for Dex-60, take it. And if the saucepan is smaller, you will cook more often. In cartoons, cooking is not work, but pleasant leisure.
And save up there on Liberton. The cheaper it is, the easier it will be to save up for a second one. And run from here, run! And don't say you weren't warned
Thanks for the answer, it would be faster to order already. I will hardly decide on the second one (saving electricity), so I want, just in case, to take the best option right away.
azaza
Well, if the second is not expected, then Dex is the best option. But actually ... don't say gop (s) I also thought that I had one too much. But it turned out ...
And you still won't believe how little multicooker eats e / n!
annnushka27
I will only be glad if I like it and I want the second one, but for now I want to decide on this. : girl_cray: And I'm not going to run away from here, I just get a taste, and you ...
azaza
Quote: annnushka27

And I'm not going to run away from here, I just get a taste, and you ...
Well! Sucked in. And the Ministry of Health warned you! Well then, welcome to the forum now for real
Keti
Quote: azaza

Well! Sucked in. And the Ministry of Health warned you! Well then, welcome to the forum now for real

Hello Azazochka! That's right, it sucks. I also went in November 2010 to read what kind of miracle a multicooker is. I read on the sly for 2 months. Then in January 2011 I registered. And off we go. Now everything here is dear, beloved.
azaza
Yeah, there is something tacoE Here tacoE! Contagious, here! And most importantly, the disease is so pleasant
But I finally began to get a buzz from the kitchen. The husband is indignant: "Well, what is it? She choked, but ate my drink, and she herself hid such talents!"
True, he quickly forgot what nerves my new hobby cost him
Oca
Quote: azaza

That's tacoE! Contagious, here! And most importantly, the disease is so pleasant. But I finally began to get a high from the kitchen.
Yeah, that's for sure! It was like this: but it became like this! The male half ceases to resist as soon as food begins to spontaneously generate in new devices. They managed to establish so much, their principle is as follows: whatever the wife amuses herself, if only she does not "saw".
In order not to be distracted from the topic, I want to ask: what models of multicooker, costing up to 4 tons, allow you to manually set the temperature and cooking time?
Alexa13
Quote: azaza

Panasik is not interested. With its features and power, you can take a bunch of analogues at a ridiculous price.
But the quality can be funny.

Viscount is a twin of Panasonic. Nice cartoon, but many users complain about the bad smell.And the saucepan leaves much to be desired.
Nowadays there is also a vicosha with a ceramic pan. Like praise.
azaza
Quote: Alexa13

But the quality can be funny.
Nowadays there is also a vicosha with a ceramic pan. Like praise.
The quality may be ridiculous, but not enough to ignore cheap multicooker at all. At this price, they can be updated once a year. And they perform their tasks quite well.
I have nothing against Panas. But I think that one cannot stand still when there is such competition around. The market today is far from the same when Panas came to it. He came first, won it, and absolutely deservedly. But resting on our laurels is not good for business. Look how many of us new multicooker owners are. And only a small fraction of "converts" chose Panas. Because if you buy an expensive cartoon, then it is multifunctional (which can no longer be said about Panas - the functions and quality of the saucepan are very modest by now, unlike the price). And the modest functions with a saucepan are no worse (and no better) than Panasov's counterparts perform quite well for themselves for very modest money. Buyers do not forgive indifference.

And the ceramic Viscount bowl is already scolded. After six months of use, the dishes in it seemed to start to burn.
Alexa13
Quote: Omela

In the post I quoted, the phrase:

Quote: Oca on March 10, 2012, 01:29 AM
Therefore, the temperature will be the same, only the time is different (well, the pressure level can be changed in some models).

is not correct. I just pointed it out


Mistletoe
You are right about the cuckoo, of course, but it turned out that several phrases were taken out of the context of the conversation.
It was about conventional, budget models of pressure cookers, the question of "cuckoos" was not even touched upon. Moreover, this is not just a pressure cooker, but a "hybrid" of multi and CB.
The most "sophisticated" of the "usual" is the new Binaton model, in which you can change the pressure level, but not the temperature! This was just about her.
(well, the pressure level can be changed in some models)

In the rest of the lower and middle level control systems, it is really possible to change only the time and even then not in all models. Conventional pressure cookers work exactly according to the principle described in the post.

So the answer is absolutely correctn.
azaza
Quote: Alexa13

But the quality can be funny.
And I’ll tell you a terrible secret: cheap is not always bad. But to convince fans of big names is a thankless task, and I'm not going to do it. Someone likes to pay a lot of money for a name - let them pay. And someone prefers to pay exclusively for the work, and it does not matter what is written on the unit. Each of us has the right to choose.

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