Drinking water purifiers

I am also very happy with my filter, we recently changed something at the treatment plants, then after 3 days the water was yellow and oily, but mine was clean. Well, super, I have never regretted that they put it!

It is NOT PROFITABLE to buy a stationary water purifier under the sink. The fact is that for reasons that you cannot use the filter for more than 1 year (the multiplication and accumulation of microbes already inside the filter itself), you never use half of the entire water resource and the rest of the resource will have to be thrown away. It is enough to buy just a jug. There have been many tests of Aquaphor - cheap and high quality.

It is NOT PROFITABLE to buy a stationary water purifier under the sink. The fact is that for reasons that the filter cannot be used for more than 1 year (the multiplication and accumulation of microbes already inside the filter itself), you never use half of the entire water resource and the rest of the resource will have to be thrown away. It is enough to buy just a jug. There have been many tests of Aquaphor - cheap and high quality.

Here's what to write something about which you have no idea?

I have a five-stage filter under my sink, where the filters are constantly changing, depending on the filler - the service life is from 3 months to 1 year, I change constantly according to the replacement schedule!
A tank of 8 liters, which is enough for about a day. The water does not constantly run, there is a stopper for filling the tank. The tank is also flushed periodically when changing filters!
Checking water is elementary, for this it is enough to have a TDS device - how many did not check, the water quality is normal.

Calculate the cost of water yourself: 8-10 liters per day, 3650 liters per year, the cost of filters per year is about 3000 rubles, the cost of 1 liter of water is 0.82 rubles.
The cost of a bottle of water in a store is on average 45-60 rubles 6 liters, the cost of 1 liter is 8.33 rubles

Draw your own conclusions, only unfounded la-la do not need to write!

Here's what to write something about which you have no idea?

I have a five-stage filter under my sink, where the filters are constantly changing, depending on the filler - the service life is from 3 months to 1 year, I change constantly according to the replacement schedule!
A tank of 8 liters, which is enough for about a day. The water does not constantly run, there is a stopper for filling the tank. The tank is also flushed periodically when changing filters!
Checking water is elementary, for this it is enough to have a TDS device - how many did not check, the water quality is normal.

Calculate the cost of water yourself: 8-10 liters per day, 3650 liters per year, the cost of filters per year is about 3000 rubles, the cost of 1 liter of water is 0.82 rubles.
The cost of a bottle of water in a store is on average 45-60 rubles 6 liters, the cost of 1 liter 8.33

I say what I know, but I can count just as well.
What needs can you spend 8-10 liters of water per day? For an average person, the consumption rate (not in heat) is about 1.5-2 liters, taking into account the liquid contained in FOOD. And how much time do people spend at work or study and THERE consume water. According to my estimates, on average, no more than 1 liter per person per day HOME is consumed.
According to the standard estimates of the manufacturers of jug-type filters, 300 liters are needed for 2 months for 3 people. And they give it WITH A RESERVE. ... That is, approximately 1.5 liters per day.
I watched the kits for the sink at 4000-16.000 liters. And for 3-4 people, 1.800-2.000 liters per year are needed. WHERE IS THE CHILD UNEXPECTED LIMIT? It's like filling up a full tank of a car and draining the leftovers after a day of driving.
The cost of the Aquaphor-105 filter is 115 rubles (there are stores and 180 each). Resource-300 liters. The cost of 1 liter is 35-38 kopecks. Cheaper? And it doesn't need any water lines!

And where is the limit? The limit does not interest me at all
I count how much clean drinking water I spend on food and drink for my family: cook porridge, potatoes, beets in the morning (in different waters), cook lunch, cabbage soup, jellied meat, put a kettle on a couple of times a day, cook compote for dinner, just get drunk with clean water, and so on - so it takes an average of 6-8 liters per day, this is not much at all, this is MY NORM if you like

Now buy a TDS device and measure the quality of drinking water after a stationary five-stage filter and from a Barrier jug ​​and the like - then you will draw conclusions about the quality of drinking water and its cost.

Now, I'm leaving

[sticky clay]

Continuing the topic ...
Today I changed the filters, which were about 1-1.5 years old. I started it a little, clean tap water stopped flowing, I had to run urgently for filters.
My water purifier is a five-stage Aquaphor (two horizontally, three vertically), with reverse osmosis, located under the sink, a tank for 12 liters of clean water.



I show pictures from life:
here are all five filters after use.



The middle filter is installed first, and takes over the mechanical purification of water from impurities, in our Dmitrov this is sticky clay, which comes through pipes from wells.



It is impossible to take the filter in your hands, it is slippery, oily, sticky and stains your hands in a brick color, which is difficult to wash
In fact, the color of the clay is darker than the brick color.



Whether or not to have filters at home - drinking water purifiers - is the business of each of us. But every time after replacing, I do not even think how much they can cost (this system is not expensive), since my own health is more expensive and cheaper than removing clay from the body later

I would like to note that the new filters are completely white.

After repair by valiant plumbers of water pipelines, filters can become so in two days. And pre-treatment filters (these are the ones that are 3 from the bottom) need to be changed every 4, maximum 6 months. Postfilter once a year, and the membrane can last up to 6 years.

And you need to change the pre-treatment filters (these are the 3 from the bottom) every 4, maximum 6 months. Postfilter once a year, and the membrane can last up to 6 years.

That's right, it's so Sinful - launched this time But, I want to note that the very first filter, which is brown in clay, and after six months of cleaning is not cleaner, is the same brown

So no one says that the five-stage Aquaphor filter does not clean well. I said that the SIMPLE PITCHER Aquaphor purifies water very well. I'm not talking about other companies, namely the Aquaphor jugs, who have not tested it ... And nowhere did any test center question the quality of cleaning.
The question is whether it is advisable to install a stationary filter, if it is easier, it is much cheaper, without laying a drain, to purify water efficiently and safely.
And if there is any sediment in the pipes, like yours, then it is easier and cheaper to install a mesh filter at the inlet, which costs from 150 rubles and it is reusable_ simply unscrewed and washed.

[Igorechek]

Igorechek, I prefer to "be friends" with those who are professionally versed in such intricacies of water purification and not speculate for them

This time the filters were changed for me directly by a representative of the company, people who have been doing this for a long time and are professionals, I had the opportunity to ask him many, many questions
And then, somewhere at the beginning of the topic I brought photos taken in my apartment, in my tap of tap water, and the photos were taken by me personally - if you wish, take a look, I recommend This is much more obvious to your own mind and eyes than talking on these topics, like "I can't have this"

Regarding "clean water, cheap": for this you need to buy a device called TDS (Total Dissolved Solids, abbreviated TDS), which measures the content of soluble substances in one liter of water.
My personal measurements with this device:
- tap water from the tap 350-500 units (depending on the time of year, place, in spring the water is much dirtier due to city drains)
- water from the Barrier type jug filter - 200-250 (even with a new filter, personally checked)
- water from a five-stage filter 8-20 (now I have it after replacing filters)
The mesh filter collects only garbage (I have it), but not water-soluble iron, clay and other soluble byaki As an example: there was no cold water for a long time, when they turned on, the red water went to the toilet and into the washing machine and colored my light-colored linen

The water must be clean !!! And all vitamins can be obtained from foods, vegetables and fruits.

Everyone has their own opinion! I have already stated mine

[igorechek]

I said that the SIMPLE PITCHER Aquaphor purifies water very well.

igorechek - I am very interested in this question - how many units did the TDS device show on the water after the aquaphor-jug? My father has such a meter, but there is no jug, so we cannot measure to understand how purified the water is.

One of the latest modifications of Total Dissolved Solids - TDS-3 ...
And I have an old TDS, for twenty years already, I check the distilled water that I drink and use for cooking ...

[Pakat]

Pakat, I have about the same useful thing for the house

We have a spring nearby, and people there are gaining massive amounts of "pure" water, but how we measured - 180 units!

Water is a strong solvent, it absorbs what it flows through or is filtered through.
But all the substances in it are in inorganic form, the human body does not assimilate them, they are removed from it, and the surplus settles in the liver, kidneys and other, in the form of stones.

The water must be clean !!! And all vitamins can be obtained from foods, vegetables and fruits.
Everyone has their own opinion! I have already stated mine

And distilled water, the purest water of all ...

[igorechek]

igorechek - This question is very interesting - how many units did the TDS device show on the water after the aquaphor jug? My father has such a meter, but he does not have a jug, so we cannot measure to understand how purified the water is.

I do not have such a device and I absolutely do not need it. It is enough that I personally looked at the results of a bunch of tests from completely different companies for Aquaphor jugs. And they all give very positive feedback.
And no need to bring water purification to the point of absurdity. And you breathe completely distilled air, and a quartz lamp is constantly working in the house, and you eat absolutely clean food, and electromagnetic radiation ...
Overly refined foods are also not very healthy. Immunity is lost. There were already classic cases when hermit people from the depths of Siberia fell into our reality and died quickly due to lack of immunity.
So I am for a healthy diet, but without fanaticism. If you want to read about the results of testing Aquaphor pitchers, dig on the Internet. This is no longer interesting to me, I dug before, before choosing a model.

of course it is ..
I have a 3-stage filter, I like

We have Argo - M, we have enough for our small family, and we like water to taste.

useful thing for home

Tanya, and then you need to buy something for him? I looked at Ibei - you can buy rubles for 300. In our stores approx 700r

Tanya, and then you need to buy something for him? I looked at Ibei - you can buy rubles for 300. In our stores approx 700r

Gulya, nothing else is needed for him, except for batteries-tablets. Dip the needle into the water, and it will itself show the amount of byak in the water

excellent, ordering

So these devices, like the TDS, are more like a toy. Only a normal chemical analysis can show the degree of purification.
This device, except for the presence of salts, cannot show anything. And how to measure the rest of the muck like bacteria, oil products, etc. d. Nothing.
And he measures the amount of salts with a large error.Each chemical element has its own electrical conductivity, like the composition of the electrolyte and electrodes in batteries. The difference in capacity is enormous.
So it's more of a fiction to calm the soul. If you check, then pay money for a full analysis of water before and after treatment.

Well, what kind of specialists work for us, it is clear to everyone. With one class of education and a lot of ambition. He himself worked for some time in the field of housing and communal services and simply with equipment installers. They will drown their heads with fake knowledge and nothing behind the little soul. Yes, even in expensive paid clinics there are many half-educated people.
And the fact that they are trying to buy a tool for work is cheaper, used is also no secret.
An electrician worked with me a freak with a Chinese pointer tester, which could only show the presence of voltage or absence, and then intermittently. Well, nothing, people thought that the measurements were normal.
Recently there was a program about nitrate meters. So they are ours, not Chinese and cost from 6.000. And then the conclusion is that it is also more like a toy and will not make normal measurements. And here you wanted for 300-700 rubles.

So these devices, like the TDS, are more like a toy. Only a normal chemical analysis can show the degree of purification.
This device, except for the presence of salts, cannot show anything. And how to measure the rest of the muck like bacteria, oil products, etc. d. Nothing.
And he measures the amount of salts with a large error. Each chemical element has its own electrical conductivity, like the composition of the electrolyte and electrodes in batteries. The difference in capacity is enormous.
So it's more of a fiction to calm the soul. If you check, then pay money for a full analysis of water before and after treatment.

The electrical conductivity of water depends on the presence of foreign substances, salts, bacteria, oil products, etc. in it, and it is very sensitive to foreign impurities.
Pure, distilled water is a 0.00 dielectric, the addition of a couple of drops of an outsider and TDS immediately shows an increase in the conductivity of the water.

So I'm talking about it. Each chemical element has its own electrical conductivity. There can be a small dose with a large one and vice versa - a bunch of elements with a small one. And many additives, including bacteria, will not be perceived normally at all.
It's like a rusty scale - you can determine that something is put on it, and there is, but how much and what they will not show. Only that they are not empty. Well, a device with a primitive function of determining contamination cannot produce a more or less good result for such a price.
Well, there are a lot of such toys on the market. For any purpose. For any measurements.

Once again, I clarify that electrical conductivity determines the quantitative presence of pollution, and not the qualitative one, what kind of impurities are in the water, this is enough for living conditions.
The sensitivity of the device at low currents is very high, this is not a rusty balance ...

I certainly do not know the essence of this device. Most likely this is an ordinary household salt meter, it seems that it is called so. Of course, I don't know what he can measure. I buy medecotest water chemical analysis kits. It costs 350 rubles. For what you know how much. And water is suitable for analysis only for 2 hours, even in the laboratory they warn. It is clear that due to the seasonality, the composition is walking.
At home in the apartment there is enough 4-step. The dacha has its own well 47 m to the mirror. I have already assembled a whole treatment plant in the basement. Taking into account its assembly already for 100 tons. exceeded in value (aquaphor jug ​​blah). Otherwise, all the equipment in a week in scale and a toilet with red stains.
But I would argue about drinking distilled water. IMHO it is with water that we get the required amount of minerals. Otherwise, the water flushes them out of the body. So everything should be in moderation. Although we can be a stereotype. The sailors drink.
And I drink a little different distillation.

But I would argue about drinking distilled water. IMHO it is with water that we get the required amount of minerals. Otherwise, water flushes them out of the body.

A common common misconception is that minerals in water are in an inorganic form, cannot be absorbed by the body, settle in the liver, kidneys, etc., the excess is washed out by water from the body.
A person should receive salts and minerals from vegetables, fruits, their juices, etc. There they are in organic form and are well absorbed, and the excess is removed from the body with distilled water, without lingering anywhere.

Taking into account its assembly already for 100 tons. exceeded in value (aquaphor jug ​​blah).

You got off quite easily, you put complexes in people for 200,000-300,000.

So they put it, I collected it myself. Greed is not a vice.

Yeah, and the equipment was transported through customs yourself? All wells have different water and require a different approach.

Yeah, and the equipment was transported through customs yourself? All wells have different water and require a different approach.

Water is really different everywhere, but in the Moscow region it is on average the same.
I don’t need to explain about customs clearance. I am engaged in the Italian industrial bakery equipment. Even if you take it to the "white" equipment in disassembled form, the rate is 0. Costs - transport, certificate, broker.
But essno bought everything here separately: flasks, heads, backfills, etc. The whole system is 1.8-2 cubic meters / hour
Flush honyvell 100 (with auto flush) - 20 "10 micron-aerator - Burmese softener - 20" 5 micron. Separately on the drinking tap through a 20 "coal. Installation with a PP pipe. There are also tanks for 3 cubic meters in the basement and an MQ-scale from grundfos that increases the pressure.
Why containers? Yes, the flow rate at the well in the summer drops strongly (it was a couple of times). For three years I came to such a system, gradually increasing it.
Believe me, it's not the gods who burn the pots. But when the company offers me a frame on wheels welded from a corner for all this nonsense for 19 tr. With its cost of material ~ 2.5 tr, this is rudeness.
I cook, too, not bad.

["do not take a filter cheaper than $ 275-300"]

choose European production with a membrane guarantee

add salt? Well, how much salt did you see in the sawn mineralizers?
then you no longer need to buy cheap mineralizers))

good membranes are guaranteed, such can work for five years.

do not take a filter for less than $ 275-300. in the purchase, let them cost as much as necessary, this will not play a role. it is important to choose a filter in the spec. store, as you may have questions about service, replacement of replacement, etc. do not buy at the bazaar or in large hardware stores, they will not give proper advice

IMHO, the main thing is a membrane, that's what you need to take at least Filmtec 50-75 ku, which is quite enough for domestic needs, + normal cartridges for pretreatment in flasks (for example Aquafilter), how long the membrane will live will depend on the pretreatment.

And the rest ... Europe ... well, well, often it will be "made in China" but at quite European prices.
"do not take a filter cheaper than $ 275-300" - And why is that?

For example, in Ukraine it is quite possible to take reverse osmosis with 3 glasses of pretreatment + pump + membrane + tap for sink + carbon post-filter for UAH 1,500, which is equivalent to $ 180, and, surprisingly, with a guarantee.
True, this does not apply to Kiev, here the prices are somewhat different, but finding in the regions in normal and proven Internet stores is also not particularly difficult.

And, it is better to take the system with a pump, it pays for itself, since there is no need to monitor the flushing of the membrane, and the pressure at the inlet is not so important anymore.

And, by the way, it is not difficult to install osmosis under the sink on your own, it is more a matter of space under the sink, although a tank with clean water can be put in another place, if there is a pump in the system, the tank can be easily put even under the ceiling.

Of the tools you need:
Construction knife, keys for 24, 11, drill, drill 10 mm, if you need to make a hole in the sink under the tap.

Cartridges here, yes, you definitely need to buy in trusted places, for Kiev I can tell you where I buy for myself.
And, replacing the cartridges is also not difficult, the kits usually come with keys.
It is imperative to change the cartridges in the glasses and at least once every six months.
The membrane lives from 3 years or more, control by a device, they described here.

Please advise which company to buy a water purifier in Russia. To be of good quality and at a reasonable price. I read the thread, opinions were divided, so I want to read exactly the names of companies that you can trust. Links will not be superfluous. Thank you in advance.

For 12 years we had the Zeptrovskaya system. Half a year ago, the master who served her said that it was necessary to change the membrane and all the filters, in total, a round sum came out. He also advised to replace the entire system with Atoll, which we did. The entire system with installation cost 10,000 rubles. For half a year, the difference between the expensive Zepter and "Atoll" was not felt (in terms of water purification), but the service will be cheaper, which is very pleasing.

[five-stage system AQUAPHOR]

I have been using it for several years five-stage system AQUAPHOR, also happy. The cost is about 6-7 thousand, and filter cartridges can always be bought for replacement. Pay attention to this too, so that after the time has elapsed, you can buy filters for your system.
For photos of the filter and cartridges, see a little higher on the topic.

[five-stage system AQUAPHOR]

I have been using it for several years five-stage system AQUAPHOR, also happy. The cost is about 6-7 thousand, and filter cartridges can always be bought for replacement. Pay attention to this too, so that after the time has elapsed, you can buy filters for your system.
For photos of the filter and cartridges, see a little higher on the topic.

+1
Replacement parts are an important item in the operation of a reverse osmosis system.

Judging by your photos, the first 3 flasks, standard 10 ":
first:
polypropylene mechanical filter 1-5 microns like this (but you have a slightly different type, which, however, is not important in mechanics):
- Cartridges made of polypropylene foam of the Aquafilter FCPS series are used to eliminate sand, rust and other impurities that appear in the water delivered by municipal water supply systems from local wells. These cartridges protect home and industrial equipment from pollution and accident. They also improve the organoleptic parameters of water.

second:
- Aquafilter FCCBL Carbon cartridges made of specially sintered coal, which has a high density and a high ability to adsorb chlorine and other organic pollutants in water. Especially recommended for under-sink reverse osmosis systems. High-density coal has a significantly larger surface, making it more efficient.

Third, with a blue rim could not be identified

fourth:
membrane

fifth:
Charcoal post-filter to remove the smell,
type Aquafilter AICRO

[five-stage system AQUAPHOR]

I have been using it for several years five-stage system AQUAPHOR, also happy. filter cartridges are always available for replacement.

Where do you buy filters?

Where do you buy filters?

In plumbing and water supply stores. And there is a special shop for filters for Aquaphor, and I keep in touch with the human company who install the filters. This is especially important when filters change over time.
There is no problem to change the filters yourself, it is not difficult - but I prefer occasionally to show my goodness to specialists for verification and control
And by the way - the tank for collecting clean water is located under pressure, sealed and never opened !!!! If only out of order, then the tank simply needs to be replaced with a new one. This I mean that here someone started a discussion of the issue that dirt accumulates in the tank.

If it just failed, then the tank simply needs to be replaced with a new one. This I mean that here someone started a discussion of the issue that dirt accumulates in the tank.

May be...
Although it is a strange assumption, water then enters the tank after the reverse osmosis membrane, that is, the water there is practically distillate, and the tank is completely drained every day ...

May be...
Although it is a strange assumption, water then enters the tank after the reverse osmosis membrane, that is, the water there is practically distillate, and the tank is completely drained every day ...

Right!
Therefore, there is no need to open the tank and wash it with special products. After the question was raised on the forum, I asked it for insurance to my specialist in replacing cartridges, and received the answer - "you don't need to climb where you don't need to" - well, I translate the words of the specialist in popular language

Right!
Therefore, there is no need to open the tank and wash it with special products. After the question was raised on the forum, I asked it for insurance to my specialist in replacing cartridges, and received the answer - "you don't need to go where you don't need to" - well, I translate the words of the specialist in popular language

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In principle, it can be rinsed (there is a rubber membrane inside it, which provides back pressure and squeezing water out of the tank), for this you can take the pump and pump in the detergent, then turn the tank upside down, pour out everything that will pour out and so rinse to the desired cleanliness, but in practice, it is easier to buy a new one.

And, by the way, for prophylaxis, you can periodically disconnect the pump from the outlet, and completely pour out the water from the tank, because when the tank is turned on, the tank is not completely emptied, because the pressure control solenoid is triggered, the tank starts to fill at 30-50% filling again.

Thanks for the advice!

[Lilyanna]

Lilyanna,

Of all the desktop filters, I am 100% sure of only one "Hercules Shoigu", because I tested it in extreme conditions

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Kind of weird. There is a lot of such information on the Internet.

[Admin]

Admin,

Now buy a TDS device and measure the quality of drinking water after a stationary five-stage filter and from a Barrier jug ​​and the like - then you will draw conclusions about the quality of drinking water and its cost.

and in which stores are they sold?

[Admin]

Admin, and in which stores are they sold?

You need to look for this on the Internet or from the sellers of stationary drinking filters.

I have a reverse osmosis Atoll filter with a mineralizer at home. I'm glad. we all drink with pleasure. I cook and wash fruits only for her.

but I want to buy a geyser with a pump and a mineralizer. for a family of 4 people 5 liters is enough for a day. and I cook on tap. I'm afraid that even 8 liters per day will not be enough for me, that's about that. that someone said that you only need 1 liter per day, I don't remember in which of the posts

oh I don't know about 1 liter .... I try to drink 2 liters or more. daughter drinks more than a liter, son is still small ... drinks a little. husband drinks about 2 liters. and that's not including cooking ...