Bread maker Brand 3801 - description, characteristics, operation

About Delongi here.

Thank you, MariV, about DeLonga's link ... I've not learned how to insert Temki "like that" ...

I will also listen with pleasure. What is Delongy's model? How it works?

Didn't find such a model for Mystery. You are not mistaken?

Mystery 2102 toaster seems ...

Thank you, MariV, about DeLonga's link ... I've not learned how to insert Temki "like that" ...

Then you are in the technical section https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=735.0.

Mystery 2102 toaster seems ...

About this bread maker on the forum

About this bread maker on the forum

THANKS, READED ...

I will also write my wishes, if not too late, of course. I don’t have this device (now Panasonic is working), but the need for a programmable oven is growing. And for the second myself, I planned this oven. I agree with many of the wishes above, but I also want (if there is such an opportunity) that the coating of the bucket would be not only durable (like Panasonic, for example), but also safe for health. In my opinion, your multicooker uses such a technology - I think ceramic spraying. It would be great if I saw the world for the first time and such an environmentally friendly bread maker. Teflon is the last century IMHO

[And then I take the second stage !!!!]

Will you test the new hp? if yes, I will borrow first

And then I take the second stage !!!! (flipped to the end of the topic, no one else was interested, so "I was standing here!)

Will you test the new hp? if yes, I will borrow first

Anyut have a desire to compare the first version and the improved version?
yes, I really want

Actually, girls, testing the same is biased. So that "ski track" for new testers!
Modestly (but rather persistently) I propose my candidacy. Experience of communicating with HP for 10 years, so I can handle it perfectly.
And there are a lot of recipes in stock, which I will "roll" on the new stove.

[And then I take the second stage !!!!]

And then I take the second stage !!!! (flipped to the end of the topic, no one else was interested, so "I was standing here!)
Actually, girls, testing the same is biased. So that "ski track" for new testers!
Modestly (but rather persistently) I propose my candidacy. Experience of communicating with HP for 10 years, so I can handle it perfectly.
And there are a lot of recipes in stock, which I will "roll" on the new stove.

but I did not test, I bought it, so it is not objectively for me.

[Anya]

Anya, sorry, so I didn't read it very carefully. Yes, I actually have absolutely no complaints to no one .
I just signed up for you Volunteers are suddenly needed.

Sign up girls, sign up .....

Sign up girls, sign up .....

And I don’t understand something. Did he announce the testing of the updated stove? Will it be tested again?
There is some kind of confusion in the brand topics for retests Although the Brand has not announced anything about retests Or I missed something

What's the difference, they will test, they will not .... would sooner go on sale .... new !!!

And I don’t understand something. Did he announce the testing of the updated stove? Will it be tested again?
There is some kind of confusion in the brand topics for retests Although the Brand has not announced anything about retests Or I missed something

That's what - ruined the mood of people!
If they want to sign up for a queue, let them sign up!

That's what - ruined the mood of people!
If they want to sign up for a queue, let them sign up!

Yes, nope, I ... I thought I missed something here ... at the dacha sitting in the beds. Here I decided to live forgive the sinner

I suppose I was weeding with dandelions - and the people are baking bread with a dream!

[doppletkin]

I suppose I was weeding with dandelions - and the people are baking bread with a dream!

And don't say, I've seen enough of doppletkin green bread. Puzzled

quote author = MariV link = topic = 152895.0 date = 1336998358]
I suppose I was weeding with dandelions - and the people are baking bread with a dream!
[/ quote] The vegetable garden is a good thing ... it's not a sin and get sick .... I'm suffering without it: cray: On the balcony I make up for my suffering with strawberries in pots, then tomatoes ... greenery at ... here it is-expanse !! While there is no bread machine, I am entertaining myself with experiments on the balcony ... I want to plant potatoes in a bucket

[doppletkin]

And don't say, I've seen enough of doppletkin green bread. Puzzled

Why suffer? While she is young, she collected, dried, crushed - and into business! Soon quinoa is on its way - that is also good dry - light nutty flavor!

Why suffer? While she is young, she collected, dried, crushed - and into business! Soon quinoa is on its way - that is also good dry - light nutty flavor!

I accepted the instructions for action. We don’t have any quinoa ... Can we sow it?

I accepted the instructions for action. We don’t have any quinoa ... Can we sow it?

You can sell seeds "garden quinoa" called.

You can sell seeds "garden quinoa" called.

And in truth, as I see on sale, you can buy ... Well, either in the field ... or from neighbors ... to pick up seeds

It is also useful for the developer to pay attention to the bucket attachment point,
after a month of work, it became noticeable to hang out Vanya 28

There is a place to be. It is solved by cutting a ring from a tin lid of an ordinary can to size - then
insert the ring into the bucket attachment point.
Ideally 4 lugs. You can circle the shape of the bottom of the bucket with a handle and increase the width.
a simple disposable option - 2 strips of sheet metal bent like P and put on the bottom of the bucket between the projections

To make it easier - smear the end of the bucket cylinder with a felt-tip pen and attach it to the paper - the print will show the shape of the ring.
the sheet is cut with large scissors.

Casting the ring is visible from silumin and into an earthen mold. The casting went on a spree - you can clearly see that the ring is an uneven oval.
Apparently the backlash goes from batch to batch. The technical solution is correct, but the small angle of twisting of the bucket does not give
make the tabs longer and with a smoother grip angle. I would increase the height of the protrusions - they are erased quickly and you can always grind off.

[bucket attachment point]

It is also useful for the developer to pay attention to bucket attachment point,
after a month of work, began to noticeably dangle VANYA 28

There is a place to be. Solved by cutting a ring from a tin lid of an ordinary can to size - then
insert the ring into the bucket attachment point.
Ideally 4 lugs. You can circle the shape of the bottom of the bucket with a handle and increase the width.
a simple disposable option - 2 strips of sheet metal bent like P and put on the bottom of the bucket between the projections

With the gasket, it is clear that removing the gap will resolve the issue.
It is clear that the manufacturer wanted the best for himself, but it turned out as always.
A senior Promoter The Russian branch still did not want to admit it,
here is his answer.
It is difficult to recycle the unit, it is quite possible to press in the seal.
This was all expected in this price range when choosing a bread maker, which was once again confirmed.
Although it should be borne in mind that in terms of price-quality ratio, everything is fine.
Well it rattles slightly, but it works.
The flexibility to customize the baking modes outweighed the disadvantages of this model.


p.s.

For developer it is also useful to pay attention to the bucket attachment point,
after a month of work, it became noticeable to dangle, the noise during mixing increased and became very unpleasant.
Anticipated disaster, but the price-performance ratio when choosing a bread maker outweighed that.
Now its revision is required, I am thinking it over.
I can attach the stove number.

This is the first time we hear such a remark. Someone else noticed something like that ???

It is also useful for the developer to pay attention to the bucket attachment point,
after a month of work, it became noticeable to hang out Vanya 28

There is a place to be. It is solved by cutting a ring from a tin lid of an ordinary can to size - then
insert the ring into the bucket attachment point.
Ideally, 4 lugs. You can circle the shape of the bottom of the bucket with a handle and increase the width.
a simple disposable option - 2 strips of sheet metal bent like P and put on the bottom of the bucket between the projections

From this place - more details, please. For a dumb blonde.

[indy2004]

indy2004

To make it easier - smear the end of the bucket cylinder with a felt-tip pen and attach it to the paper - the print will show the shape of the ring.
metal is cut with large scissors

Now it became clearer - more or less - from my highly intensive use, this knot loosened up a little - the bucket is no longer installed immediately, well, the sound ...

Yes, my stove also began to work louder

Yes, my stove also began to work louder

And I also began to dangle the bucket.

Then, virgins, we open the "Skillful Hands" circle - at the end of the week I will get to my stove and start training.
Who used to be?

I can't myself, and my husband has an exam on Saturday, so if only after

I would also advise making a lid for the bucket from a metal mesh to protect it from flying flour. It has 4 guiding pins for getting into the bucket and for the growing bread to automatically lift the lid and prevent it from falling off (like a piston). Or it's trivial to make cuts in the mesh and bend them perpendicularly (but it will scratch). I have it made of a sheet of screening of the monitor - a sheet with a thousand holes)) to eliminate vibration noise, you can stick foam rubber around the perimeter - but then you need to remove the cover after the first batch, otherwise it will burn out.

And I will not do anything with it, as long as it will last.

I would also advise making a lid for the bucket from a metal mesh to protect it from flying flour. It has 4 guiding pins for getting into the bucket and for the growing bread to automatically lift the lid and prevent it from falling off (like a piston). Or it's trivial to make cuts in the mesh and bend them perpendicularly (but it will scratch). I have it made of a sheet of screening of the monitor - a sheet with a thousand holes)) to eliminate vibration noise, you can stick foam rubber around the perimeter - but then you need to remove the cover after the first batch, otherwise it will burn out.

No, with foam rubber - it's too much! Nobody canceled safety precautions! And then, when everything burns down, it will be completely quiet ...

What are the signs that the oil seal is leaking? Who knows, tell me, otherwise I had big doubts.

Pour water with a little potassium permanganate for color - see if it is leaking? Switch on the batch - see if it is leaking? Is black oil flowing?

Pour water with a little potassium permanganate for color - see if it is leaking? Switch on the batch - see if it is leaking? Is black oil flowing?

When I turn the bucket over and grab the bottom of the bucket (the place where the shaft is spinning) there is always an oily black spot on my hand, in other stoves this is not. Is this what I fear or am I wrong?

a little oil is constantly smeared around the lock key on the shaft. It's okay if the scapula is hard to turn. But when it will be easy - it's already for repair

a little oil is constantly smeared around the lock key on the shaft. It's okay if the scapula is hard to turn. But when it will be easy - it's already for repair

Oh, thank you, otherwise I was upset.

During operation, the oil seal is designed and heated especially during heavy dough. So it flows a little.It's okay for now.

[Igor]

Igor! You are right here "ambulance" - thank you very much! Don't disappear.

I think that many novice Brandists already have few recipes from the book. It would be great to publish here your recipes and settings related to this particular bread maker. It is not very convenient to search and adapt recipes from other branches. Who has already baked (and successfully) not according to the instructions but in the Brand - publish the recipes here directly! Thank you !

Recipes related to basic programs are found in the respective sections, for example, HERE.
The corrections of the "Manual program" are HERE.

Most likely, there are no special recipes for each model of a bread machine - take any one and, if you have even a little experience in home baking, it is not difficult to adapt the brand to the bread machine.

But - personal experience and opinion - even with sufficient experience, there is no 100% certainty that there will always be good bread in this bread maker - apparently, this unit is very sensitive to the external temperature (in the room), drafts, etc.

Good day to all.
I don't have such HP, but there is a Supra with a window and a bread crust from the top is always baked in it.
Why am I? Yes, you just need to figure out why the crust is pale ... if the bread is baked normally, then the heater has enough power and you need to look for the reason why the heat does not fry the crust.
It seems to me that the problem is the insufficient distance between the top of the bucket and the lid. Maybe the developers should increase this distance to increase the flow of hot air to the "roof" of the roll and to make it better roasted.
PS: Well, I'm not indifferent to a company that is trying with all its might to release a product that people need and for this spends time and money on making improvements not in the long term, but from batch to batch, eliminates the comments identified by users.

But there is already information when an approximately updated model will be released?

Good day to all.
I don't have such HP, but there is a Supra with a window and a bread crust from the top is always baked in it.
Why am I? Yes, you just need to figure out why the crust is pale ... if the bread is baked normally, then the heater has enough power and you need to look for the reason why the heat does not fry the crust.
It seems to me the problem is the insufficient distance between the top of the bucket and the lid. Maybe the developers should increase this distance to increase the flow of hot air to the "roof" of the roll and to make it better roasted.
PS: Well, I'm not indifferent to a company that is trying with all its might to release a product that people need and for this spends time and money on making improvements not in the long term, but from batch to batch, eliminates the comments identified by users.

thanks for the advice
I am also partial to caring people

and there is already information when an approximately updated model will be released?

Not yet, the model is being finalized.

Save!
Urgently!
Previously, in manual mode there was a program for 4 hours 20 minutes, then another program for 3 hours with something, now I wanted to change the program to a new one:
everything is zero, only 5,7,9 rises for 60 minutes, baking for 80 minutes. I made all the changes, pressed and held the manual mode button until the signal, and the time was displayed: 4 hours 20 minutes!
This is instead of the 3 hours I need !!! I repeated the operation 3 times - the result is the same: 4 hours 20 minutes! What does it mean? Did she return the very first program?
And another question that is relevant to me: what is the temperature
for 1 (preheating?) my sourdough loves 28 degrees ...
Save the bread !!!
Baking on a simple mode baking - awful - 135 degrees sourdough bread of a large weight is not baked and the color there turns out to be very pale ...
I'm waiting for an ambulance, maybe I was wrong somewhere?

Yes, I forgot to write, when I tried to program for the second and third times, the settings were correct, as I set ... only the amount of time did not correspond to the one set by me!

"And another topical question for me: what temperature is
by 1 (preheating?) "
I crashed with this ...
And the program on the manual had to be typed differently: at each position, change the setting back and forth, then the menu, after that everything worked!

So I became a happy (?) Owner of HP Brandik!
Only something dumb to me: I put the dough on bread on the 11th program, where according to the table the first batch is only 5 minutes, and she has already been sausage for more than ten!
Or am I confusing something (I love this business)?

Oh, I will die, but not from fear, but from laughter!
I look at the table, I see that the first batch is 5 minutes, then five columns with zeros, then the second batch is 25 minutes. I expected that between the first and second break, at least a little, but there is. And it looks like, they differ in operating modes, but they go one after the other continuously! And the dyed blonde stood with bulging eyes and did not know what to do: either to pull it out of the socket in order to interrupt the independent life of the unit, or to fall on it with her chest until she ran away, until she figured out to add up the cycle times and check with the general one .. ...

PS: Only six months of suffering and, voila, I am with a bread maker and it is Brand's (the main thing is that it is not very far before the birthday, otherwise I would have to suffer longer)

ISCHO: puzzled by the discussion of the order of loading liquid and dry ingredients (I know that it is different in different HP), somewhat wary of someone's remark (sorry, I don’t hope to find it anymore) about dusting the heating element with flour during kneading, having found it on the inner walls of the case after the first test, I took it, and covered the bucket with cling film for the duration of the kneading. In a whisper: well, it's nafik, I've been waiting for her so much, I don't want to give it to anyone, let alone the service ...

This minx again puzzled me: during the kneading on program 11, about in the middle of the batch, she suddenly began to squeak. She begged and calmed down when I approached. Bored by her alone?
What does that mean? I did not find anything on this in the manual.

[Mamba,]

Mamba, Congratulations on your long-awaited assistant! And I look you have already figured out everything. But this

This minx again puzzled me: during the kneading on program 11, about in the middle of the batch, she suddenly began to squeak. She begged and calmed down when I approached. Bored by her alone?
What does that mean? I did not find anything on this in the manual.

it was the stove that asked for additives (raisins, nuts, cheese, sausage) to lay down, called so, called for the bread to be even tastier

[mamba]

mamba , success in baking!