Oksanchik
How to calculate the amount of energy during the preparation of bread?
Let's say in those. characteristics for LV is written as follows
Power consumption:
Heating element - 550 W
Dough mixer motor - 100 W

How to calculate sq / hour?
natalka
Do you need it? What will change from this? Will you stop baking or redo the circuit? Let everything be as it is, do not load your brains with nonsense ...
Celestine
650 W per hour - 0.65 KW (if I'm not mistaken) Physicists may be throwing stones, but I always think so
Antoine
it's easy to count. sit with a stopwatch and watch the time lope, the engine turns, and the time lope warms up. in the same place everything works cyclically. and for a long time the oven simply forgives without the consumption of lyricism.
it is even better to connect an electric meter to the stove. some old realties. and then you can accurately calculate the hop the oven consumes per cycle. although that's strange. that in washing machines and in dishwashers it is written everywhere that the machine consumes, for example, 0.95 kW per cycle. but here they didn’t want to register ... but they could have done an advertisement. like with minimal energy consumption we get a delicious thing.
Aglo
The power of the heating element is 550 W multiplied by the baking time.
The dough mixer motor power - 100 W multiplied by the kneading time.

We add the results and get the approximate power consumption. In reality, it will be no more than 0.5 kW, which will not exceed 1 ruble at a price. Electricity, in this case, is one of the cheapest ingredients in bread.
Uncle Sam
It is wrong to multiply the power of the engine and the heater by the entire operating time. And the blade rotates irregularly (and in the 255th also with variable speed) and the heating goes according to the program. Listen. Click-heat, h / h 3 seconds click-off, etc.
The average consumption of kilowatts depends both on the composition of the dough and on the air temperature in the kitchen.
And who is very interested to know. Turn off all email during the day. appliances in the apartment. (control by a stopped electronic meter) Record all its readings. Make a test baking (quick bread is better so that the refrigerator does not drip). And compare the meter readings "before and after". If at that time HP was the only consumer of electricity, you will know her appetite from within 1 watt.
Is it necessary?
Oksanchik
Thanks to everyone, I don't need this, but my grandmother, whom I bought HP and who has a small pension and expensive energy (Ukraine), needs to be known to anyone, because without this HP she will not start

Now I'll figure it out.
Uncle Sam
For a grandmother - another matter!
I feel in my gut that the bread maker does not consume more than 0.25 kW / hour.
And I explained to my parents this way: the costs of producing 1 loaf in KhP are the same as at a bakery (with an electric oven), only minus the wages of a bunch of workers + profitability above 45%.
Bread Pete
Quote: Uncle Sam

For a grandmother - another matter!
I feel in my gut that the bread maker does not consume more than 0.25 kW / hour.
And I explained to my parents this way: the costs of producing 1 loaf in KhP are the same as at a bakery (with an electric oven), only minus the wages of a bunch of workers + profitability above 45%.

Came across an old topic. Such questions also arose, however, more theoretically, the price of bread does not bother me. Although, if you include my own labor costs in the cost price (how much can I earn in the time I spend on homemade baked goods), then maybe my bread will turn out to be expensive

As for the payback period, I thought: HP pays off on the very day when you squeak with delight, enjoying the taste and smell of your own baked bread and decide to never buy bread in the store again
Rem
In short, consumption: electricity must be neglected! Because very little!
Strannik-Yura
Quote: Rem

In short, consumption: electricity must be neglected! Because very little!

when I calculated the cost of black bread, 1 sq. m. was included in the calculation. electricity. It turned out that bread with HP is a couple of kopecks cheaper.
Aglo
1 kV. The stove does not eat electricity, and even 0.5 kV will not eat. So with HP, your bread is cheaper by a couple of kopecks +, at least, a ruble. Compared to the bakery, which is not entirely correct due to the difference in quality.
Strannik-Yura
Quote: Aglo

1 kV. The stove does not eat electricity, and even 0.5 kV will not eat. So with HP, your bread is cheaper by a couple of kopecks +, at least, a ruble. Compared to the bakery, which is not entirely correct due to the difference in quality.

More than 0.5 kV is definitely
The bread itself is baked for an hour, and there is a heating element of 0.5 - 0.8 kV.
Now it has already come running ...
Hope
Quote: Strannik-Yura

More than 0.5 kV is definitely
The bread itself is baked for an hour, and there is a heating element of 0.5 - 0.8 kV.
Now it has already come running ...
During baking, the ten does not constantly work. This must also be taken into account.
Strannik-Yura
It is necessary, well, as it was written above, that the most accurate way is to put a separate counter on the HP
Andrei
Now electronic counters for the outlet are being sold.

If anyone is sooooo wondering how much the stove "eats" - then you need to buy a socket-counter, plug it into the socket and plug the HP into this socket with a built-in counter. After the baking cycle, it will be known exactly how much electricity the oven has spent. I have already met such outlets several times in Kiev.
Strannik-Yura
curious and how much does such a device cost?
Andrei
Honestly, I don't know ...

I saw that this device was in the form of an outlet with a screen, I saw an inscription that it was an electricity meter.

But I didn't remember the price, and I didn't need it then ...

If I see it again, I will.
Strannik-Yura
I just saw something like that, but it was a barrier against voltage changes in the network
and just curiosity behind the counter
Andrei
I also saw the barrier, but it was the counter.
ol8494
Calculate exactly the email consumption. energy is unrealistic, because:
1. The colder it is in the room, the greater the consumption. The chip maintains the set temperature.
2. The colder the food, the ... (see above) + heating in older models.
But this can be neglected because these discrepancies are very small.
The power of the stove is given in the power of the heating element when it is on! And this is about 30% of the time baking, but not all 3 plus hours! 20 minutes of kneading will give us 0.1kW (100 watts) for a third of an hour and about 0.03kW. It is also necessary to add the heating consumption when approaching, but according to my observations, it is no more than 1 minute for the entire cycle. This is about 1/60 of the power of the heating element and = from 0.01 to 0.015 kW, depending on the stove. It turns out that the stove takes 1/3 of the power of the heating element per cycle (from start-up to notch) (it bakes only an hour) + about 0.05 for everything else.
In total, in order to know approximately how much your stove will take, you need to convert the power into kilowatts, divide by 3 and add 0.05. This will be the expense.
Example: A 600 watt oven. Translated. We got 0.6 kW. Divided by 3. We have 0.2 kW. We added 0.05. In total, for a full cycle, the oven "eats" about 0.25 kW. It's very similar.
So do not be alarmed and cook for health!
Hope
ol8494
Well done!!! Thanks for the clarification. It turns out that a lot of electricity is not needed for bread. I thought so before, but here you put everything on the shelves.
Andrei
+5 I didn't worry too much, despite the fact that the stove has a power of 1650 W / h. It is perfectly audible how the relay works and it is clear that in 3 hours the oven will not "eat" a wagon of electricity. Yes, and with the purchase of a stove, electricity consumption per month did not increase much.
ol8494
Guys! And the girls, of course! I was here at my leisure arguing and realized that I myself was fraudulent and misled you! Here's the problem! I considered it in relation to my own, but they have 650 and 800 watts. You just need one roll for baking certain the amount of heat, and therefore energy, i.e. any the stove will take on the same a loaf of bread the same energy about 0.25-0.3 kW, regardless of its power! It's just that in a weak heating element it will turn on more often, and less often in a more powerful one! Well, and a slight error in thermal insulation and motor power in different models. A little more than this will be the expense on large rolls, but in proportion to their weight! So call sho and cook calmly and to your health!
DonnaRosa
Quote: ol8494

Guys! And the girls, of course! I was here at my leisure arguing and realized that I myself was fraudulent and misled you! Here's the problem! I considered it in relation to my own, but they have 650 and 800 watts. You just need one roll for baking certain the amount of heat, and therefore energy, i.e. any the stove will take on the same a loaf of bread the same energy about 0.25-0.3 kW, regardless of its power! It's just that in a weak heating element it will turn on more often, and less often in a more powerful one! Well, and a slight error in thermal insulation and motor power in different models. A little more than this will be the expense on large rolls, but in proportion to their weight! So call sho and cook calmly and to your health!
That is, in any case (for one bread) the stove does not consume more than 1 kW?
Rem
Relative to cotton, the name of the topic itself
already an anecdote.
Because what kind of electricity consumption can we talk about ?! Do not tell people who asks such a question!
DonnaRosa
Quote: Rem

Relative to cotton, the name of the topic itself
already an anecdote.
Because what kind of electricity consumption can we talk about ?! Do not tell people who asks such a question!
I'm not funny at all. It is very useful to calculate the cost of bread.
Especially if electricity is expensive in the country.
People also have two-rate meters.
In our country, everyone has meters for everything.
And on the water too. We've all been counting for a long time.
The nuclear power plant will be shut down in 2010.
The new one will not be built soon, and the electricity price will double.
We still have it already expensive.
ol8494
Quote: DonnaRosa

The nuclear power plant will be shut down in 2010.
The new one will not be built soon, and the electricity price will double.
We still have it already expensive.

Girls boys! Don't panic, huh?

The nuclear power plant will not be shut down! )))
And if electricity even triples in price, then the cost of 0.3 kW el. energy
our budget will handle. So we bake bread and don't give in to rumors!
Good luck and great bread to everyone!
DonnaRosa
Quote: ol8494

The nuclear power plant will not be shut down! )))
And if electricity even triples in price, then the cost of 0.3 kW el. energy
our budget will handle. So we bake bread and don't give in to rumors!
Good luck and great bread to everyone!
To whom the gas is turned off, and to whom the atomic ...
Our nuclear power plant will be shut down very soon. This is settled.
This type of station is considered life-threatening and unreliable.
They will build a new one.
But this does not mean that we will not bake bread at home.
It is always useful to calculate expense and cost.
In any case, my homemade bread is three, and sometimes four times cheaper than our store bread.
Well, without preservatives - this is also a plus.
ol8494
Quote: DonnaRosa

To whom the gas is turned off, and to whom the atomic ...
Our nuclear power plant will be shut down very soon. This is settled.

Sorry, did not look at the address. As for you, I still don't know.
But I am sure that you will find 0.3 kW for bread.
Save money on TV, after all.

IMHO a loaf of fresh homemade bread is more important,
tastier and healthier than another stupid show
what does TV offer ... Or am I wrong?

Shl. All with Coming!
ALTI
For Panas-255, loaf weight 1000 gr., El. energy 0.42-0.45 kW, every "hour" timer delay - plus 0.01 kW, the same applies to the "off bread maker", but with the "plug in the socket",
all "measurements" were carried out using an electronic "wattmeter".
copoka
Here are my measurements of electricity consumption:
normal bread mode, medium size, flour 450g, water 280 ml, Panasonic SD-255 bread maker

Electricity consumed when baking bread
May @
copoka, you better write in words, otherwise I do not understand in this device.
copoka
388.6 W x hour
or approximately 0.4 kW x hour
ikko4ka
Quote: copoka

388.6 W x hour
or approximately 0.4 kW x hour
this is about 25 kopecks in 2.5 hours.
I approximately counted 1 kW. Well done Soroka! Confirmed my calculations.
May @
According to our tariffs, this turns out to be about 10 kopecks, and 3 hryvnia per month. If I counted everything correctly, then this is nonsense, about one loaf of purchased bread.
May @
Yeah, it's an hour, and I was thinking completely about the cooking cycle. Well, yes, then about 30 kilowatts a month, still not expensive.
copoka
electricity consumption is measured in kW x hour.
0.4 kW x h is for the entire cycle.
May @
Now, if I bake on a mode lasting 2.5 hours, then it turns out to be 1 kW, right?
DonnaRosa
Quote: copoka

electricity consumption is measured in kW x hour.
0.4 kW x h is for the entire cycle.
If the mode takes 6 hours, then the flow rate will increase.
DonnaRosa
Quote: ikko4ka

it turns out about 25 kopecks in 2.5 hours.
I approximately counted 1 kW.
Good price for your email.
But cotton bakes economically. Much cheaper than email. oven gas stove.
I also plan to bake casseroles in it, not just bread and muffins.
ikko4ka
Magpie, you write
0.4kw x hour
hence the conclusion that it is in one hour, Well, if it is for the whole cycle - even better!
The price for electricity is now 25kop. , but are going to raise (like all utilities)
DonnaRosa
Quote: May @

According to our tariffs, this turns out to be about 10 kopecks, and 3 hryvnia per month. If I counted everything correctly, then this is nonsense, about one loaf of purchased bread.
Our bread is much more expensive.
copoka
ikko4ka, this is the so-called unit of measurement kW x hour
Therefore, a bread maker also consumes 0.4 kW x hour for baking bread - this is all, and not inhour.
The larger size, in theory, will consume a little more, but not more than 0.1 kWh

If the word confuses you hour - just ignore it
May @
copoka, so it's generally super!

Quote: May @

According to our tariffs, this turns out to be about 10 kopecks, and 3 hryvnia per month. If I counted everything correctly, then this is nonsense, about one loaf of purchased bread.
: red: Or maybe it already costs more, I haven't bought bread since November last year.
May @
Quote: DonnaRosa

Good price for your email.

Quote: DonnaRosa

Our bread is much more expensive.

Maybe you have higher salaries ...
DonnaRosa
Quote: May @

copoka, so it's generally super!
: red: Or maybe it already costs more, I haven't bought bread since November last year.
We haven't bought bread for a year. But I follow the prices of bread. Flour has risen in price and e-in too. But still a pleasant and profitable thing - x / n. I'm not overjoyed.
Admin
Quote: DonnaRosa

But still a pleasant and profitable thing - x / n. I'm not overjoyed.

Well, if you completely follow the rules for setting the price of homemade bread, its cost, then you need to add electricity to the cost of the products themselves, the cost of the x \ n per loaf (and this is very expensive!), The cost of delivering products home and so on, and far from cheap your own labor of baking and caring for x \ n
If all this is correctly put together and divided into 1 loaf, taking into account the marriage, then the cost may turn out to be much higher than in the store!
It's just that we are not used to including other costs in the cost of our product, except for flour, water ...

Otherwise, we just have very tasty homemade bread, which makes no sense to translate into monetary equivalent.



DonnaRosa
In monetary terms need to translate the cost of all products. People in Russia are not yet accustomed to doing this. The whole world has been counting everything for a long time.
ikko4ka
Quote: May @

Maybe you have higher salaries ...
Well, they made fun! Rather lower ...

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