Bread Maker Bork X500

I have been crawling for many years already, and I don’t remember another. How good it is to have two forms, for Easter, all relatives bake cakes.

:)Hello! Bork x500 was also imposed on us in the media market for 10,880 rubles. The first bread turned out to be relatively normal, the second I decided to experiment and baked with pressed yeast and water. On the outside, the loaf looked normal, but on the inside it looked like a cobblestone. After reading the reviews on the internet, I was upset and was already starting to think how to get rid of this stove (exchange, hand over). But first I decided to buy a ready-made mixture for baking Borodino bread and try it. The bread turned out to be just wonderful. For myself, I concluded that the oven had nothing to do with it! It's all about the proportions of the recipe. On the 4th day of my experiments, I got a delicious bread. By the way, there was no smell of plastic, as they say here. Always smells like bread. In principle, I like my HP.

Today I baked bread for the first time in Bork x500, for some reason the top was not fried (completely White)

[Natalia Chizhik]

Natalia Chizhik, welcome to the forum!
I understand your frustration over the failed bread. BUT! Baking bread in KhP is a job. requiring preliminary preparation. To get started, check out the theoretical part:UNDERSTANDING BREAD IN HOMEMADE BREAD

What recipe did you bake? Which bucket?

Good day! Today my husband persuaded me to become the owner of hp bork500. We bought it, brought it, read everything that is written in the instructions, loaded the ingredients for traditional bread at 750 grams, set the main mode and began to watch:
1. Taps slightly when mixing. The window fogged up almost immediately, but on the second ascent it moved away.
2. The gingerbread man is somehow uneven, I decided to unblock and see - the dough is tight, dense and why with machine oil from below !!!!! Horror! I peeled off the oil, put it back, but instead of continuing further, I started the process again!
Now I'm afraid that all the bread will be with machine oil inside! What to do??? Send it back ??? (All parts were washed before use) And so, every time you stop, the program will restart? This is the first xn in my life and so I want my bread ((((

Here's what happened

Brick-cobblestone (the chemical smell was all the time and during baking it first intensified and then disappeared. But by typing, I determined that there was no blockage, you can open the lid at any time, it does not lock in any way, however, the quality can be greatly affected) ))))
I would not like to take HP back, I already liked it, despite the fact that initially I was against it and leaned towards Panasonic or Mulinex.
Tomorrow I will try Borodino bread from the mixture, maybe it will be better)))

[Maruika]

Maruika, Maria, with the initiative you! I recommend that you read about the theory of baking bread in HP. The link was given just above.

But by typing, I determined that there is no blocking, you can open the lid at any time, it does not lock in any way, however, the quality can suffer greatly)))))

It is not recommended to open the lid during proving and baking. And during the notice, you just need to open and control the batch. adding liquid or flour as needed.

put it back, but instead of continuing further, xn started the process again!

It is necessary to press pause, then the program is paused and then started from the same place.

Good luck!

[Maruika]

Maruika, Maria the stove is very good, I have been using it for many years. The bread turns out to be very good and what kind of Easter cakes.

The stove is good! It's just that hands are growing from the wrong place)))) There is no smell, it's gone, hurray! I baked a cupcake on the Cupcake mode, the roof was not brown, a little wet, but tasty, my husband liked it))) but Borodino bread from the mixture on the French pastry mode - the roof fell, but delicious! Throw the book out in truth!
Here's what happened!

I didn't notice it on purpose, but something like this: knead for 10 minutes, rest for 20 minutes, knead for 10 minutes, rise for 20 minutes, workout, rise for 60 minutes, bake for 60 minutes.

Oksana, poke your nose at me, where to read such a detailed layout for the programs! In the instructions there is no such thing, I'm already looking for half a day on the forum, until I found it. You are welcome!!

[Anna73]

where to read such a detailed layout for the programs!

Anna73, there is no such layout. Only experimentally with a stopwatch can you measure and record for yourself.)

Eh, but I was hoping .... I'm trying to find a program for whole grain bread. In order not to overstay. In the oven recipe, rises 2 times for 30 minutes. But it didn't work in a bread machine. Of course, the water was also a bit too much (Tatyana explained this to me), but I also want to keep the time of proofing.

No, well, if no program fits, then the user program can be configured:

Kneading 1 (kneading dough 1):
6-14 minutes
LIFT 1 (increase the volume of dough 1):
20-60 minutes
Kneading 2 (kneading dough 2):
5-20 minutes
LIFT 2 (increase the volume of test 2):
5-120 minutes
LIFT 3 (increase dough volume 3):
0-120 minutes
BAKING A: 0-80 minutes
HEATING (preheating bread):
0-60 minutes

Can. Yes, I somehow all go around and do not dare :))) I'm afraid to screw it up. Somehow we are still with the bread maker on "you".
I will try!
Thank you!

I am with this stove, if I am not mistaken since 2013. The recipes in the book are some kind of nonsense. Until I read a lot of information here and experimentally came to my recipe. And then, sometimes the bread falls off, but I no longer pay attention. Enough to follow every time. Depends on flour and yeast ... and on where the wind blows. The only bread, which is always with a bang, is kefir, I don't remember whose recipe it is, but it includes kefir instead of water, an egg .. Cool! If someone needs it, I will look for an author or a recipe, or maybe someone will find it himself.

[dili1979]

dili1979, not talking about this recipe?


Bork. "Delicious white bread" (Omela)

[Omela]

Omela, Yes Yes! It is he! When I have guests, I have to "surprise" with a bread maker, then I just do it. Thank you again for the recipe !!! I never let you down!
Do not tell me how to bake plain white bread in water, so that the crumb does not crumble. Shop does not crumble as much as home ??

[dili1979]

dili1979, we have a topic about it: Bread crumbles.

[Omela]

Omela, Thank you! I'll take a look. There is so much information on the forum that you can get lost and read - do not reread

Good evening everyone. Today she became the owner of the BORK X500 bread machine, (before that she was lg) I am interested in such a question, is it possible to replace milk in recipes with water? Thank you all for the answers

Can!
For recipes, go to the forum and select:
The simplest bread (according to bread machine models)
Wheat yeast bread

Thank you

Oh, girls, I got sorrow again

[Deer]

Deer, how is it?

Good day. And, you can have a couple of your proven recipes. And, then I still have no ice. The crust falls off, about 15 minutes, after the start of baking. Thank you very much in advance

[Deer]

Deer, then it’s not in the recipe, but in the flour-liquid balance (there is a lot of liquid) or there is a lot of yeast.
Wheat flour gingerbread man (master class)
The bread rises, but falls inward. Causes.
UNDERSTANDING BREAD IN HOMEMADE BREAD

Girls, hurray !!! Today I tried to bake "Borodinsky" and the miracle happened. Now I'll try to post a photo. I want to say a huge thank you to everyone for their support. You are all so wonderful, the site is very kind and sincere. All support each other. I will try further

Good day! Something in Bork is completely quiet. All "played enough" and do not bake anything else, or vice versa, gained experience, and there are no more questions. I am also the owner of HB X500. I got it by accident, I never planned to buy such a unit, I bake everything in the oven. But since there is, I decided to try. I downloaded a recipe book for her, was the first to bake rye bread. I thought that HB works wonders and will do everything herself. , but in reality it is not so. The bread was delicious, in principle, but still warm. The next day Yesterday I accidentally came across this forum. After reading the information, I realized that it is possible and necessary to interfere in the process. I found the Brioche recipe and went to create. The result exceeded all expectations. Delicious, fluffy, aromatic bread.

and I have another question. Yesterday I read that many people make cereals in a bread machine. Maybe someone tried it, share your experience. I think the milk can run away.

Hey, does anyone come here? As long as I use it, I have never turned on a delayed start. I decided to put the dough today and turn on the baking after 3 hours. But it just doesn't work. How to do it in this stove. The instructions say, press the time button, but this only changes the baking time. Help

[Olya2017]

Olya2017, after choosing the program, increase the time as needed, then press the "Start" button.
After 10 years of work, I took mine to repair, the belt broke and a pin of some kind in the bargain. But because of the round bucket, she could not throw it away.

after choosing the program, increase the time as much as necessary, then press the "Start" button.

So I increase it, but only the baking time changes from 10 minutes to 1 hour. If I press "start", the program starts immediately. So I can't figure out what else needs to be done.

But because of the round bucket, she could not throw it away.

I got a bucket without this, I really miss it.

[Olya2017]

So I increase, but only the baking time changes from 10 minutes to 1 hour

Olya2017, I think that simply the "Baking" program cannot be programmed for a delayed start, but any other one can. So you do not put the dough, but program the whole process! On any program!

[anavi]

anavi, the dough is leavening, so I just wanted the second proofing to stand in the bucket and bake without me. I don't bake at all in KhP, only batch. But today it became lazy. But baked, all is well. She returned quickly, the dough did not stop.

it is just that the "Baking" program cannot be programmed for a delayed start, but any other one can.

I also decided. I'll try later on the main program.

Yes, Baking is not delayed. I was talking about the main programs.

I got a bucket without this, I really miss it

And buy in the service?

[Omela]

And buy in the service?

Omela, Ksyusha, I bought a square bucket in the service a couple of years ago - it costs like half a stove! And you have to order a long time ago - they don't have anything! And I ordered it because my bucket was leaking - just some black liquid!

[Omela]

Omela,

And buy in the service?

The price tag on them Now you can buy a stove on Avito for 3500. And buckets for 2 -2.500. I decided I could do it.
Today I continue the experiment. The "French bread" regime was set with a delay without any problems.

Now you can buy a stove on Avito for 3500.

Really? My repair costs so much. (((I didn’t know that the price tag in Bork took off like that. I found out in due time, 1000 rubles cost a square one ... 5 years ago.

1000 rubles cost square ... 5 years ago.

And 2 years ago - 3.5 thousand!

I was just upset that I could buy a new one for the same money. (I didn't even think to look at Avito, chicken. (((

[anavi]

anavi, Omela, but tell me about the custom mode. From the very beginning, I mainly used only kneading, baked in the oven. But now spring is approaching, giving time is less and less, and I only want sourdough bread. There is no time to bother with the oven. You can set it: kneading - proofing (3 hours) - kneading (min 5) h proofing (1.30) - baking. As long as I looked at the instructions, there is a lot of everything and the bread does not have time to rise. And in the French mode - 3.50, for starter culture is not enough.

[Olya2017]

Olya2017, I didn’t bake the starter - I don’t know ...But there is a programmable mode - it seems to me, no problem.

[Olya2017]

Olya2017,
Characteristics of the x500 model in programming mode here

Kneading 1 (kneading dough 1):
6-14 minutes
LIFT 1 (increase the volume of dough 1):
20-60 minutes
Kneading 2 (kneading dough 2):
5-20 minutes
LIFT 2 (increase the volume of test 2):
5-120 minutes
UNDER LIFT 3 (increase dough volume 3):
0-120 minutes
YOU OVEN A: 0–80 minutes
BEFORE HEATING (preheating bread):
0-60 minutes

[Omela]

Omela, Thank you. I also found it already. I realized that the French regime in this HP is not suitable. I will try it next time in the custom one. Today I took out the dough and bake it again in the oven.

Girls, I am grateful for prompting you to look at HP on Avito. Refused to repair and bought for 3 thousand practically new, with two buckets! 👍

[Omela]

Omela,

bought for 3 thousand practically new, with two buckets!

Congratulations!!! So I decided that if it breaks down, I'll buy it on Avito and immediately with 2 buckets. In the meantime, I'll live with one.

[Olya2017]

Olya2017, Thank you! She has already put down the bread. I have lost the habit of a rectangular bucket, the last five years in a round baking, but now I will take care of it.))))

Only experimentally with a stopwatch can you measure and record for yourself.

There were not yet those who tracked all modes with a stopwatch ??? But somehow it’s impossible to get everything together. How is wholemeal bread different from French bread? By the number of kneading or proving?

I will try it next time in the custom one.

Has dropped in to report, suddenly someone will come in handy.
I have baked in this mode several times. I know how long it takes for me bread to rise on wheat and rye sourdough - it's 3 and 4 hours. In this mode, there are just 2 proofings for 2 hours each, which can be adjusted. Therefore, after work I put everything in the HP, control the bun in the first batch and calmly go to the dacha. I arrive and the sourdough bread is ready.

Hello to all owners of Bork bread maker. I want to tell you about a certain feature of this stove and that it can be easily repaired at home. The most frequent breakdowns in this baking oven are worn rubber bands and graphite copper bushing. It is repaired if there is a man with hands or by replacing the rubber belt (600 r belt) or replacing the bushing (300 r bushing). Why am I writing this here? Because many services deceive people. In our case, it was said that the gear was broken. The husband knocked out the old sleeve and bought a new one for 300 rubles and the bread machine started working. Now I will show you how this sleeve looked. this is how she looked. Here is a comparison between the new and old hubs. Of the two ovens that my husband fixed in both cases, it was the bushing that flew. The husband claims this because of the alloy of graphite and copper. They say everything has been done for a period of about 3 years. That is, after about 3-4 years, the bushings fly. And the most reliable and best buckets of the first generation of this model. The one with the menu in English. The fact is that the oil seals on its buckets can be changed. For generations 2 and 3, rivets and buckets are already not repaired. This is how my second HP from bork looks after the repair. This is the second generation with a Russian menu.





Its price is clearly overpriced and as a mother of three children I would not buy it for the amount for which it was sold. Moreover, if you have Panasonic. The first one went for the 300 r bushing and 600 belt and that's it! They gave them a pier, fix it will be yours, the second one that is in the photo was bought for fifteen hundred and for 250 sleeve. Of course, this is not a Premium vehicle far! This peacock has spread its tail too wide. And so a very good stove! I like the presence of the second form just right for cake. They knew what to play ... Easter, Easter cakes and a round bucket

[Nastya]

Nastya, I'll keep it on mind. Thank you.