Dishwasher selection (1)

Hurray ordered a dishwasher on Saturday to be brought, but I had to order the Household Appliances Center in the store, but they are not available, I don’t want to wait very much.

Everyone brought me my dishwasher, now I will wait for connection until next Saturday. I have a question right away, the rinse agent I have for 4 and leave it and pour it into the small hole that is there?

[tanya1962]

tanya1962, congratulations. About the amount of rinse aid - ask the technician from the service center that will install your PMM. For example, here, the PMM can be considered a guarantee only if its technician installed it. Otherwise, they don't want to give warranty service.

[tanya1962]

tanya1962, we installed the machine ourselves, the whole installation consisted of screwing the inlet hose and inserting it into the drain hole. This does not affect the warranty in any way, at least for the Kaiser.
The amount of rinse aid will need to be adjusted during operation. If the dishes do not dry well, then we increase the amount, if white spots remain, then we decrease it. This should be written in your instructions.
Pour it into the small hole where the regulator is.

BooBu's husband also wanted it himself, but we need to pull the power cable from the distribution board, and the service that the store where we bought does it, so we decided not to bother ourselves, let the masters do it. The set included 5-in-1 Calgonit tablets, I don't know how to use them or buy them all separately. Girls who live in the Southern District what is our water hardness?

When using tablets, neither salt nor rinse aid is needed. I used to like the pills, but then they began to wash something badly. So now I buy everything separately, and again, savings.

I went to the store for powder. There was nothing but Kristall-fit. I bought it. Girls, this is such disgusting! I put it to a minimum, but it still does not wash off!

I went to the store for powder. There was nothing but Kristall-fit. I bought it. Girls, this is such disgusting! I put it to a minimum, but it still does not wash off!

I CAN SAY THE SAME ABOUT "Somat"

Better than Kolganite, only Kolganite.
At one time I tried everything that was on sale. Only Kolganite washes well.

tanya1962 Girls who live in the Southern District what is our water hardness?
I was set to "3" during installation. Whether the master is right or not, I don't know, I accepted it as a fact.
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I went to the store for powder. There was nothing but Kristall-fit. I bought it. Girls, this is such disgusting! I put it to a minimum, but it still does not wash off!

To be fair, I also use kristall, only I have a fix. not fit. I put 1 pill or generously sprinkle powder (for a short program). It washes off wonderfully, the plates creak with pleasure. Perhaps the manufacturer of the powder is different for us, or maybe the rinse aid is your fault.

[Salt]

When using tablets, neither salt nor rinse aid is needed. I used to like the pills, but then they began to wash something badly. So now I buy everything separately, and again, savings.

Salt always needed! Otherwise, plaque will begin to appear on the glasses. The mechanic told me about it. Even if you are using pills.

To be fair, I also use kristall, only I have a fix. not fit. I put 1 pill or generously sprinkle powder (for a short program). It washes off wonderfully, the plates creak with pleasure. Perhaps the manufacturer of the powder is different for us, or maybe the rinse aid is your fault.

Correction: the powder is really Kristall-fix, made in Germany. Calgonite rinse (I used it with another powder and even with somat tablets accidentally - without any complaints). Now, after washing with this powder in PMM, the chemical smell, if you run your tongue over the saucer, begins to tingle. Pmm Bosch.

I can't imagine life without a dishwasher, but now, when a baby has appeared in the family, I began to worry about the question of which powder is less harmful to health. I have already given up the rinse aid, although the glassware is not so shiny. I may have paranoia, but I rinse all the dishes for the little one with additional drinking water. I mainly use Kristall-Fix, but I heard that there are soda-based products for PMM. Does anyone use it?

I found Domax powder in Platypus, Domax salt in the anatomy written an environmentally friendly product, who has tried this product.

[tanya1962]

I have PMM Bosch. I use Crystal-Fix powder in the amount of 1 tbsp. spoons for a full car. And the rinse is also Crystal-Fix. Absolutely clean plates, no powder smell, squeak and shine. And, of course, there are no side effects, such as pinching the tongue ... The dishes are ordinary, glass Italian, and plastic, and stainless steel ... and, even, sometimes Teflon pans (when it's completely lazy).

Try a different powder. Calgonite is also very hard. Vigorous, so to speak. Maybe something else would be better? It's a pity, you can't buy a small pack, the powder is not less than 1 kilo. And so - I bought it, I tried it - I bought a big one ...

tanya1962, in general, Domol is a good manufacturer. I love his laundry rinses. They do not leave a strong odor on the fabric. It is also written that it is economical and environmentally friendly. Maybe the powder will be good for PMM too. For the price, it seems not very scary. If you try, write how it feels

I also look at Mams at Crystal-Fix, because in the rinse it is written on the basis of citric acid, and the salt is based on common salt, and for some reason I don't want Kolganit.

I also look at Mams at Crystal-Fix, because in the rinse it is written on the basis of citric acid, and the salt is based on common salt, and for some reason I don't want Kolganit.

Apparently, that's why it is so expensive ... Three times more expensive than Somat. But I like the rinse aid. Much better. Moreover, it is also cleaner

I have a Frosch rinse, it says "Thanks to its formula based on active extracts from lemon fruits .." la-la-la. We read the label "Composition: 5-15% non-ionic surfactants. Other components: citric acid". These same surfactants (if I am not mistaken - surfactants) are in any powder and rinse aid. But after all, not a single manufacturer will write what effect they have on our body.

But after all, not a single manufacturer will write what effect they have on our body.

Do not judge harshly, but I will express my opinion - if there was something or would remain dangerous on the dishes after the dishwasher, then they would have raised a noise abroad long ago. There people have been using dishwashers for a very long time and one can already draw conclusions about what is harmful in the means for them. I think it would have been a long time since someone would have sued consumers if they found this to be the cause of the deterioration in health. If you wash it by hand with dishwashing detergents, then in my opinion much more of this nonsense will remain on the dishes. It remains only to wash it by hand and it turns out with natural means.
I have been using a dishwasher for 7 years - until nothing terrible has surfaced for my health.

and I use LV dishwasher tablets (Bosh). There are no complaints, it washes wonderfully, and the product is hypoallergenic. It is produced in Finland, sold in many places in St. Petersburg, but in Moscow I have to run after it, so when I am in St. Petersburg I bring several packs with me!
Since I have the smallest child, and an allergic person, I don't add rinse aid (I'm afraid).
By the way, I wash my laundry with powders of the same series! Sooo happy! And most importantly, Yu is not allergic to the baby !!

About washing off harmful detergents. Each washing program ends with a rinse with hot water (70 degrees), I think, with this intensity, little remains on the dishes. And on occasion, a child can be washed with handles.

Nata_ly Thank you, though I have not seen such pills yet, look for a boom.
Natty I already wash the children's plates with handles, since it is still small and soils the dishes a little. But I also need to cook food for him, and if I wash everything with my hands, then why should I be a dishwasher? And for my health it is exciting. Personally, I really smell the chemistry when I unload the PMM in the morning, and when I was pregnant, then vaasche

My smell is not chemistry, but the PMM itself, perhaps because it is still relatively new.

I hang up a fragrance for PMM and my freshly washed dishes smell like lemon

I hang up a fragrance for PMM and my freshly washed dishes smell like lemon

What is called "taste and color .....". I, an allergy sufferer, started to itch my eyes from this fragrance, my nose got clogged. I had to throw it away.

[Ritu]

I hang up a fragrance for PMM and my freshly washed dishes smell like lemon

I had one with a double smell - lemon / lime - it smelled well, just scary, so RituI perfectly understand, although I am not allergic, but the reaction was almost the same. I didn't raise my hand to throw it away, so I gutted it and took out the lime filler and threw it away. There is only one lemon left and now it smells nice - not strong and natural.

I want to buy a PMM, I'm wondering how the water flows out from the tabletop? Can I put it where there is no supply and return hose? and in general they are needed?

[Inga]

Inga think about the tabletop, the whole charm of the dishwasher is that you don't need to wash the pans and pans, and they don't fit into the tabletop. Although if the family is very small or you don't eat much at home, then maybe nothing.
I think hoses are needed, otherwise where will the machine fill the water from and where will it drain?

Girls, tell me how much salt is in the machine, I have a pack of 2 kg, my husband is now connecting, I do not know whether he will have time today or not.

A lot, 1.5 - 2 kg, pour in as much as you like.

[tanya1962]

tanya1962, pour under the very eyeballs. There is enough salt for a long time.

Does anyone have a Krona typewriter? I saw everyday life in our store. equipment, a machine 60 cm wide costs only 16 thousand - the price is tempting, but how does it wash the dishes, in terms of reliability, in general?

Mary_ufa was looking for a typewriter for a long time, but I didn't see Crona, go to the website 🔗, maybe there you will find something about her.

[Mary_ufa,]

Does anyone have a Krona typewriter? I saw everyday life in our store. equipment, a machine 60 cm wide costs only 16 thousand - the price is tempting, but how does it wash the dishes, in terms of reliability, in general?

Mary_ufa, I'd rather add 3-4 thousand and buy a typewriter of a more famous brand that inspires confidence in the quality of the products. Still, PMM is bought for more than one year. It is better to secure yourself as much as possible already at the purchase stage. Although a product from a well-known manufacturer may fail, it still happens an order of magnitude less often. IMHO.

[Mary_ufa,]

Mary_ufa, I'd rather add 3-4 thousand and buy a typewriter of a more famous brand that inspires confidence in the quality of the products. Still, PMM is bought for more than one year. It is better to secure yourself as much as possible already at the purchase stage. Although a product from a well-known manufacturer may fail, it still happens an order of magnitude less often. IMHO.

I join. I bought a KRONA hood at one time, because in terms of suction power it was on a par with expensive brands, and I don't remember what price, but cheaper.

For 5 years of use, I had to contact the service 3 times, electronic brains flew (if moisture gets on the buttons, everything closes, and this is on the gum !!!) - this part cannot be repaired, only replacement. In short, in the end, this cheap hood cost me the same price as BOSCH, plus a lot of nerves !!!

I join. I bought a KRONA hood in due time, because.in terms of suction power, it was on a par with expensive brands, and I don’t remember the price, but cheaper.

For 5 years of use, I had to contact the service 3 times, electronic brains flew (if moisture gets on the buttons, everything closes, and this is on the gum !!!) - this part cannot be repaired, only replacement. In short, in the end, this cheap hood cost me the same price as BOSCH, plus a lot of nerves !!!

Wow .. And I have already laid eyes on their hoods, they have a very beautiful classic style with a wooden frame ...

[sorry for off]

sorry for off
Find out more precisely about the new models, they say they finalized this defect (put a fuse in the block). In all other respects, there are no complaints, recently we have become accustomed to the fact that in order to wipe the control panel with a damp cloth, it is necessary to unplug it from the outlet, but still, you yourself understand, now I have a wary attitude towards this company.

Finally, yesterday my machine was connected and tested, in general, I was completely delighted with the soap for 45 C 29 minutes, the plates and glasses came out like new, I'm happy. The only thing, but noisy, but it does not bother, as the husband says your TV works louder than the machine.

[tanya1962]

Finally, yesterday my machine was connected and tested, in general, I was completely delighted with the soap for 45 C 29 minutes, the plates and glasses came out like new, I'm happy. The only thing, but noisy, but it does not bother, as your husband says your TV works louder than the machine.

tanya1962, for a long time it was delivered / connected to you.
And don't worry about the noise: Bosch is one of the quietest PMMs. So, be glad that you have Bosch

Caprice was delivered quickly, only my husband thought for a long time who would connect, in the end he decided to connect himself, he does not trust the masters, then he said he would have to redo them anyway.

[tanya1962,]

... The only thing, but noisy, but it does not bother, as your husband says your TV works louder than the typewriter.

Can not be. I have a Bosch installation that has not been built in for 1.5 years. I hardly hear her. I even began to wonder how I would determine whether she washed or not after the installation. By the way, at a relative's house, standing next to the new built-in Bosch, she almost looked into a working car, completely inaudible. tanya1962, Do you have a solo model? Or maybe the dishes are not well positioned, so they are thundering? Or does the karamysl cling to something?

Pogremushka the noise level of my car is 52 dB, the model is solo, the rocker did not touch, because for the sake of interest I opened it carefully and looked, you can hear how the water is poured, but these are all the little things in life, the main thing is to keep working well.

Caprice was delivered quickly, only my husband thought for a long time who would connect, in the end he decided to connect himself, he does not trust the masters, then he said he would have to redo them anyway.

We did not rework after the wizard from the service center ... Besides, if you connect it yourself, the service center does not give a guarantee for PMM ...

After the master connected the washing machine, my husband had to redo it, after that the husband tries to do everything himself, since his hands grow from where they need to be. And about the guarantee, it would be better not to use it. Okay, what will be, then we will wait and see.

We did not remake the post of the wizard from the service center ... Besides, if you connect it yourself, the service center does not give a guarantee for PMM ...

There are different warranty conditions (in our conditions), in some warranty coupons it is written: the equipment must be connected according to certain rules: ...., and in some coupons they do not put a seal on the beginning of warranty service until its representative from the service center connects it.

We also connected our stove + dishwasher ourselves, because we bought it in an online store, and when they brought it to us immediately after the inspection, a stamp was placed and installed, without connection.
But I had to call the master to connect the washer, precisely in order to put it on a guarantee.

We do not guarantee a washing machine or a dishwasher if they are not connected by a service center technician. But this has never been a problem. Our technicians are connected normally, quite skillfully. Plus they also put additional filters for hard water and protection against lightning. In addition, the gift tablets for the dishwasher, promised when buying Bosch, bring these very service center techniques, and not in the store.

Yesterday the machine set 140 minutes for washing on the Eco 50C program. of which 100 min. she washed, and 40 min. just stood, now I have a question as it should be or is it all 140 minutes. must wash. The dishes were well washed and dry.

I almost always wash everything on the "auto" program, the time is 75-85 minutes. (she herself will somehow determine how much time she needs) At the beginning of the cycle she washes, that is, the splash of water is heard, and then dries.

a 40 min. just stood

If it was at the end of the cycle, then it is drying, everything is fine. In PMM, drying is carried out by some clever method of condensation, so the process is rather long.
As for the noise, I can always hear mine (I have a BOSH inset), but when it is filled to capacity, it is much quieter than half-empty.

I even began to wonder how I would determine whether she washed or not after the installation.

Doesn't it sound your horn after washing? When I put it on at night to wash, my husband wakes up from this squeak and goes off.

Well, that means 40 minutes. dried, because I took out the hot dishes. My machine also does not beep after the end of work, just 0 is displayed on the display and that's it.

My car beeps, but it's quiet enough. If memory serves, the volume can be increased or decreased, there are 3 levels, or maybe you can turn it off completely (for those who wake up), you need to raise the instruction. We don't hear her at night, in the sense that we don't wake up. And in the daytime I don't listen, I can miss the signal, or decide what I missed when the wash is not yet complete.