Dishwasher selection (1)

This spray head is included with some models. Separately, I think, it is necessary to search in services.

Girls, read in the instructions for their PMM Bosch SMS 65M12EU that you can wash baking sheets only with a spray head. Then the upper basket can be removed. Otherwise, with only two baskets. Does anyone know what this is? More precisely, where to find this garbage? In services or shops?

The instruction is the middle option.

Look for belonging to your brand of car - then you will have this spray gun complete with various other accessories.
I also have Bosch and this model just includes a spray gun, and I have it in stock.

[Admin]

Admin, did not quite understand your answer. There was no sprinkler included with the car. According to the catalogs on the Bosch website, in the description of the car, nothing is said about this. I'm trying to figure out whether this piece should be included or not? If it is not included in the kit, do I need it in my car ... I understand that it should be used in any model, but not all of them are included in the kit. Right?
The question is how to find out the complete set of my model ...

The general instruction is written for Bosch models 1, 2, 3, etc. ... which are the same in common programs, but differ on the model with and without washing the baking sheet.

For example, I have model 2, which provides for this function of washing baking sheets and accessories - sprayers are given in the attachment to the sink.

You have a model for example 1, where this function is not, and you are sorry, they didn’t put sprinklers.

You need to read the instructions, there should be links to the models, or go to and-no and to the site, see your model there and the function of washing trays is embedded in it.

The question is how to find out the complete set of my model ...

Pick up your passport, waybills and look there for your model number, then look in the internet.

If necessary, I'll check my model number later and give it to you for comparison.

BOSCH 55 TO3EU \ 37

[Admin]

Admin
Now I understand. It remains only to find out whether my model is equipped with a sprinkler or not. On the Bosch website, the description of the models is not very neat. In one I found that the PMM is equipped with a device for washing trays. And in the description of your PMM there is not a word about this at all. Tomorrow I will call Kiev to find out. Most likely you will need to order additionally.

And I bake it perfectly and without my sprinkler - take off the upper basket - and go!

And I don’t have any sprinkler. And it washes so well))

LenaV07
This same sprinkler is attached to the side wall of the car (in my Bosch model so). Look at your car, run your hand along the side wall to see if there is room for a sprayer.

Here are intrigued. I will examine my car from the inside today)))

In my car, the sprinkler is installed on the back wall where the water is supplied to the caramel of the upper basket. I can't imagine how you can wash baking sheets without this device. They fit into my car only if the upper basket is removed. Once I forgot to insert the sprinkler, so the water just poured in a straight stream into the car door. Both rumbling and ineffective. I have a Bosch 55T03

[Pogremushka]

Girls, thank you all for the "responsiveness" I found out that this "shower" does not go to my PMM. I'll have to buy. This is a kind of plastic round that resembles a shower spray. Fastened (I suspect that it is screwed in) into the hole on the back wall, as rightly noted Pogremushka... And without this thing, you cannot remove the upper basket.So the instructions say This is relevant for a situation when you put an item for washing in the lower basket vertically, and it "requires" to remove the upper basket in height.

Reporting: I examined the machine for holes for anti-rinse garbage. They are)))) And there is no garbage in stock I am not upset, because I have baking sheets and so wash perfectly))

My PM is the most beloved)) and SM ........ and HP ....... and MV ...........

I also found a hole in my PMM on the side. I wonder if this is it?
My son found here the instruction manual for PMM Bosch in Russian. If anyone is interested, write here. I'll then hang the download thread somewhere.

And I, and without this garbage, my baking sheet. It turns out fine. There was an idea to order it on the service. But Boshevsky has been working for so long ... I put the baking sheet down, or put it sideways in front of that very hole in the right side. Normally washed.

Please help me with this question: we are planning a PMM for a new apartment, but since this is not yet the highest priority purchase, I want to leave some space under the countertop.
The question is how best to do it:
1. Make a cabinet of the "compartment" type so that it can be closed for now, and then remove the door.
2. Leave an uncovered space under the worktop.

And yet, as a continuation of the 1st option: will it be possible to install the PMM behind the door (so as not to dismantle it) or is it necessary for the front side to be open?
Thank you and sorry for the smart questions

Girls in general 2 weeks already go shopping in the choice of a dishwasher, Eyes scatter in different directions, although in stores the choice is not large, BOSH, Siemens, Electrolux and one model of Zanusi and Indesit, firstly I have not yet decided which width to take from me where I want to put, you can put 45 and 60 cm anyway, we will stumble, either about one or the other, the husband has even matured to 60 cm says he will fit most of all. I choose between BOSCH, Zanusi and AEG, but I want to touch everything first with my hands, and then order in the online store. At the weekend I want my husband to ask, go to the Electronic Paradise, maybe there will be more models to choose from.

[Alexi]

Alexi, it all depends on what kind of PMM you envisage in the kitchen: built-in or ordinary and what size. Here you yourself can only decide and consult with the manufacturer of your kitchen

tanya1962, how many people in the family, how often do you cook and eat at home? I have a 60cm dishwasher, there are four of us, there is not always enough space in the dishwasher.
p.s. My dishes once a day. I put on the timer in the evening, because night eluptricity is cheaper.

[Caprice]

Caprice will be the usual 85x60x60 or 85x45x60, since the height of the kitchen will be 90cm, then it will fit under the countertop.
I am more interested in the question of how tightly the PMM is closed (i.e., will it harm the kitchen and the countertop) and whether it can be closed with a door during operation.
I will consult with the kitchen manufacturer, but I would like to play it safe and hear someone else's opinion, and not rely on the opinion of only the master (trust, but check)

[Alexi]

Alexi, well, so far, everyone has PMMs in their kitchens and they haven't done any damage to anyone

Take BOSCH, 60 cm.

I have been using PMM for the 5th year every night. I have nothing more useful in my kitchen. I think that there is no point in buying PMM less than 60 cm (you win 20 cm, but you lose in a large number of dishes, the price does not differ much) From manufacturers - I have Indesit, I would like to be more reliable. A year later, plastic began to crumble.

BuBu in a family of 6 people. I cook all adults on weekdays in the evenings, but a lot because there is still a dog, but we eat breakfast and dinner, and my son-in-law works 2 through 2, so sometimes he dines at home.
I watched MaDaMa BOSCH in Technosila, two identical, one made in Germany, another Poland, and how can I not run into it and I don't really like their design, but so far, in the throes of searching, I've reviewed all the forums and, in general, a mess in my head. But all the same, I'll go to the Electronic Paradise, maybe I'll find something there. For some reason, there are very few reviews on AEG and ASKO.

ASKO - categorically NO, But AEG - cool (the plumber said, you can trust - a friend of the daughter).
BOSCH - ONLY Germany. Their design - yes, not very, but QUALITY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There should be a brand on the native BOSCH.

MaDaMa, why is there no ASKO, it’s like the typewriter is not cheap and made in Sweden, my husband just liked one 60 cm, we watched it in Technosila, and I liked AEG, but I saw it only on the Internet in stores, it’s not there to see it with my own eyes.
At the expense of the stigma, I know, that's why all the cars were opened with my husband and looked where it was made, he also does not want Poland.

Yes, hell knows why ASKO - no. So the plumber said He's not a talker. And about the AEG grit - SUPER technique.

If there are 6 people in the family, then only 60cm, do not even hesitate.

Guided by physics and geometry, you can easily come to the conclusion that a 60 cm car is better. She has a rocker with nozzles spinning in a square. And for narrow cars in a rectangle (width 45, depth 60). Consequently, in wide cars the entire washing area is better washed. And pushing a baking sheet into a narrow car becomes problematic. Therefore, it is unambiguous to take a current machine of 60 cm. It's more difficult with brands. There is nothing to say for sure. Each company has successful models, and there are those that will crumble in six months ... And repairs after the warranty are also different in cost. It is difficult to advise something. It is advisable only to take brands all the same. Here is a refrigerator for myself, I chose Liebherr. I will also choose a dishwasher. Tobish asko, krone, etc. will be considered last .. This is purely my opinion.

[tanya1962]

I have been using PMM for the 5th year every night. I have nothing more useful in my kitchen. I think that there is no point in buying PMM less than 60 cm (you win 20 cm, but you lose in a large number of dishes, the price does not differ much) From manufacturers - I have Indesit, I would like a more reliable one. A year later, plastic began to crumble.

Why doesn't it make sense. I have 45 cm. I don't need more. There are three of us. I wash my dishes once a day, especially since we only have dinner at home on weekdays. And oppose mine, my oven is 60 cm.
Auntie bought a 60 cm typewriter (the price is almost the same, and the dishes fit more). There are two of them ...... He washes the dishes with his hands anyway, because every day it's a pity to drive a half-empty car, and convictions do not allow collecting dishes for 2 days. The nephew lives alone - he has enough tabletop
As for the quality, Indesit agrees, the appearance changes after a couple of years, although it washes dishes well

tanya1962, now I would also choose a BOSCH of the German assembly (only 45 cm).
Agree with MaDaMoi

Take BOSCH, 60 cm.
Germany ONLY. Their design - yes, not very, but QUALITY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Alexi , it seems to me that it will be inconvenient to close the PMM door - in order to fold the dishes, then add something, after washing, pull everything out - it’s constantly 2 doors will have to be opened and closed: cabinet and typewriter. Lazily, however

The count is almost correct. The passport indicates the power consumption per cycle. Tobish, in normal mode, the car will spend 1.15 kW / h, and in economical mode, only 0.8 kW / h.
Therefore, the regime is called so. This is also true for the washing machine. Although there are tens of 2 kilowatts, this does not mean that she will spend 4kW / h in 2 hours. She, as expected, will spend only 1 kW / h.
In many household appliances, the power consumption is indicated precisely for the cycle of its operation.
Therefore, with peace of mind, you can stain and stain the dishes with the delicious remnants of a romantic dinner.

In the passport to the PMM, the energy consumption is indicated not in KW / h - such a unit does not exist at all, but in KW * h, that is, the energy spent per cycle (and not the power, which is measured in KW).

I would recommend only 60 cm and only Bosch! If you do not want to save up dishes in case of something, pay attention to the possibility of a half load. It's not uncommon now. As for the brand.Bosch (and, naturally, Siemens) are introducing their own innovations in their units, and selling the same developments of the previous generation to competitors (the same Aeg). I have a Bosch 45 cm 2 years. Works daily, sometimes 2 times a day. The family has 2 adults and 1 small child. Hmmm happy, but now I would take 60 cm.

I chose 60 cm for myself (so as not to regret that it fits a little). By brand - Beko wanted, but there is no model that I wanted in Russia. I went to Electronic Paradise (about a month ago) to watch the cars live and choose what I like. Dishwashers were once, twice and missed. Basically - a pair of Boshes, one Beko (completely seedy in function), and a narrow (45 cm) Blomberg for 17 tr .. In general, there is nothing to look at. As a result, I ordered Blomberg GSN 1580 XB via the Internet. I'm happy with the machine so far, there are many modes, all sorts of convenient shelves. Only there is no half load (but I think this is not very critical, since the machine is quite economical).

And my dream has finally come true. The beauty Bosch works, 45 cm !!! : D I'm very happy, he washes my baby bottles in such a way that I would never be able to do it by hand !!!
And at the expense of the size, here the dispute is useless, because, for example, I barely entered 45 cm because of the size of the kitchen (5.5 sq. M.): Yes, and our family is small, two adults and a baby. So that's enough for now. Mine once a day. In general, there is no chapel to delight !!!!!

And at the expense of the size, here the dispute is useless, because, for example, I barely entered 45 cm because of the size of the kitchen (5.5 sq. M.): Yes, and our family is small, two adults and a baby. So that's enough for now. Mine once a day. In general, there is no limit to delight !!!!!

If there is no place - yes, and 45 is already happiness, but children are growing ... Therefore, I advise 60 cm.If there is an opportunity, it is better, of course, but if not, then the desktop is happiness

As for the brand. Bosch (and, naturally, Siemens) are introducing their own innovations in their units, and selling the same developments of the previous generation to competitors (the same Aeg).

And why so on AEG? Actually, this is a well-known Swedish brand. And they have enough groundwork without Bosch. And now it is the AEG-Electrolux concern, I think that they, too, with a mustache. Becky, Hansy and other "new" ones - just start with the purchase of the solutions and materials before last. So when choosing, you should pay attention to the brand and price. And at least understand that there is no canary for a penny. If Beko costs 9 thousand, then it will not last long, and various problems are possible, such as poor washing, high "gluttony" in water and electricity, and you may also have to buy more expensive detergents in order to soap well ...

Oh, exactly !! I completely forgot !!!!!!!!!!!!! I was specifically looking for the HALF load function !!!!!!!!

I also looked for such a function, but when I started buying it, it turned out that it was not in the car I had chosen. Well, I was a little upset at first, and then it turned out that I didn't need her at all. There is an automatic washing program in the machine, when there are not enough dishes, or it is not very dirty - it is quite enough. The machine itself decides how much water, how to heat it. And does a good job
So i'm happy

If Beko costs 9 thousand, then it will not last long, and various problems are possible, such as poor washing, high "gluttony" in water and electricity, and you may also have to buy more expensive detergents in order to soap well ...

Oh, how offended my assistant !!!!

For the second month I have owned a five-program Bekoshka and I am very, very happy! indeed, I bought it at the sale for 9 thousand (sold for 12) and very much doubted it. But! The plastic is of good quality, the inside is an exact copy of Elektrolux and Virpul. Excellent feature set, decent water and electricity consumption and 2-year warranty. I brought it home and connected it. I use Somat. And tablets (PM has a 3in1 function), and powder-salt-rinse. Washes perfectly! My friend's TEKA is expensive, the quality of washing is comparable completely. Another friend, Ariston, of the latest brand, is also quite correct in comparison.So I would not so categorically "throw it in the trash"
"Various problems" I have not yet had, how long it will serve - I also find it difficult to answer .... But YET I am very pleased! And for young families this is generally a godsend! It is almost impossible to carve out about 30 thousand from the family budget, but 7-9 thousand can be collected by saving a little and asking friends-relatives to make a gift for DR in cash.
Studying and generalizing the experience of communicating with this miracle technique, rereading sites and personal humble experience leads me to one single conclusion:
THE DISHWASHER IS PERFECTLY WASHING NOT THANKS TO SPECIAL DESIGN AND "MAGIC SECRET TECHNOLOGIES", BUT THANKS TO VERY HIGH WATER TEMPERATURE AND MORE AGGRESSIVE DETERGENTS.
Girls, of course we all want to drive a BMW or a Mercedes. But if this is unattainable (for now or at all), then you should not walk proudly, you can buy a Lada or Hyundai ... Everything is better. what to choke on the bus, right?

Yesterday my husband and I went shopping in search of a dishwasher, in general, there was no choice, but in MEGA at the White Dacha we went to M-Video and there we liked the BOSH SRS 45T62 EU in black when we arrived home I looked on the Internet in the black version there is no where no, and in general on the BOSH website they are only in white. And my husband told me that a white machine in the kitchen would be like an eyesore, because the stove is brown and the kitchen is oak, in general I don't know what to do, but overpay in M-Video 7t. R. in comparison with online stores I do not want to, and in general I have a tooth on M-Video. It is true that the BOSH model has a black SRS 55M36EU, but it has a noise of 52 Dts. True, I think I can take white and repaint.

No, the repainting will not roll
The way I found my PM. I searched the Internet sites for a long time, my model was not there (that is, they seemed to be, but it was necessary to wait, whether they would bring it or not, and they also said that such a model was unlikely, discontinued, etc., and so on), then I took a free newspaper (they give it to the metro) and began to call around stupidly on the ads (there are many that offer equipment from the warehouse). You won't believe, I FOUND !!! And cheaper by 700 rubles than offered in the online store (and they brought it the next day, there was no need to wait for anything). Guarantee checks - no claims.

Well, what I was afraid of happened - my PMM is breaking. Two buttons refused - Vario Speed ​​and 1/2 of the load and the third is pecked - preliminary rinsing: (I will start the epic with repair-replacement tomorrow. Ooooo, how I love it

[Natty]

Natty, is the machine under warranty?

Oh, how offended my assistant !!!!

In no case did I want to offend the assistant. And in the case when there is no way to buy an expensive one, of course, it is better to have a cheap one than none. It's just that when you read the reviews of repairmen from service centers, you understand that it's not always cheap - it's good. We were all young families, I did not have the opportunity at all, not that at the PMM, for bread and milk, there was not always enough ... Therefore, I always try to buy as much as possible. To serve longer. And, of course, she worked well. About high t-py and caustic powders - it's more about inexpensive technology. The same Bosch is a middle-class technique. The Germans are frugal in everything. Therefore, it is unlikely that they only counted on chemistry.

[Natty]

Natty
I wish you good luck, a very unpleasant task. Take care of the nervous system ... And whose machine is assembled? Really the Germans have such "sides"?

Natty
Yes, yes, it is very interesting what the machine was, how much it was in work, with what intensity. ??? well, etc.

In general, I decided on the typewriter I will order BOSH SRS 55M36, since I did not find any other blacks, I will order at the end of the week to bring them on the weekend, I will order in the store, someone came across this store.

In general, I decided on the typewriter I will order the BOSCH SRS 55M36, since I did not find any other black ones, I will order at the end of the week to bring them on the weekend, I will order in the store, someone came across this store.

I bought a refrigerator, built-in hob and Electrolux oven and a Bocsh dishwasher (fully built-in) in this store last September. I bought it in two stages, since the kitchen was done gradually. Both times the order was accepted and everything was delivered on time, as promised by phone. They opened it in front of me and gave me a warm look at everything. All warranty coupons and the necessary documents were given.
In general, I was satisfied with the work of this store.
The technique works without any complaints (pah-pah-pah).

[Bosch SMS53M02EU]

Bosch SMS53M02EU I have a German assembly. Soaps every day (1 time per day on average) since October 23rd - not even a month has passed. Warranty - 1 year. We thought and decided not to take it for repairs yet. Functions failed not essential (but useful). let him wash it for now (as I imagine that again everything is hand-washed - a hanger). The warranty expires on October 16, 2009. At the beginning of September we will take her - unless, of course, she grunts earlier.

Another question - how much powder do you have enough for everyday washing? I have almost used up 1 kg.

The warranty expires on October 16, 2009. At the beginning of September we will take her - unless, of course, she grunts earlier.

If you are in Moscow or the Moscow region, then in Moscow there is a company A-iceberg, which serves German and not only dishwashers with a house call. if you need to give me a phone.

Another question is - how much powder do you have enough for everyday washing? I have almost used up 1 kg.

I have had a car since April, that is, six months. During this time, less than 4 kg of powder was used. That is, 1 kg. in 1.5 months. Washing is daily, on weekends - 2 times a day. I sprinkle 1 tablespoon.

[Natty]

Natty, if your PMM is under warranty, you are obliged to repair it at the service center free of charge. Check the list of service centers in the warranty card and contact the nearest one.

girls, tell me, please! is it worth taking the cheapest dishwasher to the dacha, for example, Wellton WDW-T5. Dishes only 3-5 plates, wash immediately after eating