Dishwasher selection (1)

[Svetik_]

Svetik_ , this is Ariston. Now in Megamax there is one model at a discounted price of UAH 2,500. But the announcement will end from minute to minute, so we are tormented, to save 1.5-2 thousand, or is it not worth it?
Jefry after reading your answer calmed down a bit. There is still common sense in your words.
So about drying ... anyway, in any of the models, there may be drops of water on the dishes? I did not know that
The delayed start is there. There are also salt indicators and something else ... There are five programs in total:
- for very dirty
- for ordinary
- rinsing
- crystal
- Eco
No countdown indicator.

[RybkA]

RybkATo make life easier for you, I will also say. I have a premium dishwasher: German Miele. It stands like a bomber, all stuck with electronics, well, etc. (before that, Ariston was 4 years old). So, when drying, the water in my new napahyrenny machine remains, albeit less. Because in the bottoms of mugs, for example, there is a layer of water and drying is simply not able to dry it all to zero. On all other surfaces, everything is OK, the main thing is to put them at an angle. In addition, I did not turn on the turbo dryer in Ariston, but it was there. Maybe he dries with her as well as Mille. I don’t remember any special complaints about Ariston, except that the plastic of the folding shelves and the container for cutlery turned out to be very "hard to wear" and began to crumble and break after 2 years. However, this did not significantly affect the work, since these are not the most necessary things in the typewriter. It works great without them. Moreover. More than (6 years) time has passed, for modern technology this is a long period and nothing stands still. Models, materials have long been different, more modern.

[Rybka]

Rybka, I have a PMM compact, quick wash in use. according to statistics, 2-3 washings are fast (30 minutes), 1 - long (2h20min). when for a cook, I often load a quick wash. because waiting 2 hours is too long ...

So I'm talking about the same thing ... when I cook, for example, I only use Kenwood, I'll wash it for 30 minutes !!! And very often, especially in winter, my short program juicer.

Girls ... well, you need to start with which compact typewriter, narrow or full-size will you buy ??? If it's a compact, then it's clear that everything happens quickly and there half-load is not needed at all, and in my opinion it is not there. if there is a full-size and half-load, it's great, but I have a full-size one and there is no half load, but for 30 minutes there is Eaten-washed is called

exactly, I got the quick wash with half load mixed up

I figured out a quick wash, now it's more or less clear what's what. That is, it turns out "quick wash" can replace 1/2 of the program?
I can't fit a full-size one, only 45 cm, is it a compact or not?
Is the IVF program a useful thing? How is it different from the usual one?

It is also convenient when the basket is adjustable in height.

[Svetik]

Svetikhow is it not 1/2 in a narrow car ??? I have it .... and not even superfluous. So I made cupcakes and immediately on this function I washed the bowl from the Kenwood and the nozzle, and also a couple of bowls and cups .... otherwise I would have to wait until it was full !!! And soaps for 30 minutes. And the IVF program is needed for glass, if I'm not mistaken. She is also quite useful, especially after the holidays !!!

no, ECO is ecological, it washes at a lower T (50C), but longer - not 2h20min, but 2h50min, such as less electricity is consumed with less water heating. I don't use it - I'm 2.20 long, and 2.50 is generally unbearable

and for glass - crystal, it is washed there at 40 degrees so that the glass does not burst

45cm is narrow, 60cm is full-size, both have two baskets in height.but the compact is a desktop one, there is only one basket in it. which is not very convenient, since the washing time is the same (more than 2 hours), and the washed dishes are two times less than that of a narrow and full-size ...

Well, not quite twice, I used the compact from Electrolux, but compared to the full-size one in two, and narrow, not more than one and a half, is another matter. that full-size sprinkler arms and water jets go in three directions, so, in my impression, any full-size washer is better than a compact.

any full-size washer is better than a compact.

I was also afraid that because of the smaller number of rocker arms, the compact would be worse to wash. I don’t know, but the dishes shine all over - and the cutlery is like new, my mother asked, whether I bought a new set and glass, compared to the manual sink, just blue, and the manual one - yellow, although I washed thoroughly, with all the means. so the CD washes well, no need to slander it

Let's go today once again looked at the stock PMM Ariston in Megamax. Well, what can I say ... I "dug up" in this model also a water consumption of 14 liters, compared with others of 10 liters, there was even one Ariston model, more expensive, of course, with a consumption of 9 liters .... But in comparison with the popular BOSCH, a model for three programs in total, a consumption of 13 liters, that is, it seems to be not critical ...

[zvezda]

zvezda I talked about a compact - this one that fits under the sink, there is no half load in it, it is already small for 6 appliances, and in a narrow and full-size one it is, but in mine it is not, but wash for 30 minutes RybkA - this is not a half load, just wash quickly and that's it .................. Esl and heavily soiled dishes, then for 30 minutes you will not wash properly or am I wrong ???

[RybkA]

RybkA

I also "dug up" in this model a water consumption of 14 liters

You made me pick up a calculator. We have: "cool" machine consumes 9 liters of water for one wash, "cheap" - 14, the difference is as much as 5 liters. The savings are obvious: 1 cubic meter of water for 200 washes, this is six months of intensive use. And for how many years, given our water prices, the "cool" machine will have to work out its difference in price? On a dollar a year, with a difference of more than a hundred, uh-uh, "I don't need an eternal needle for a primus ..." (Ostap Ibrahimovich) The same applies to electricity consumption ...

[RybkA]

RybkA
You made me pick up a calculator. We have: "cool" machine consumes 9 liters of water for one wash, "cheap" - 14, the difference is as much as 5 liters. The savings are obvious: 1 cubic meter of water for 200 washes, this is six months of intensive use. And for how many years, given our water prices, the "cool" machine will have to work out its difference in price? On a dollar a year, with a difference of more than a hundred, uh-uh, "I don't need an eternal needle for a primus ..." (Ostap Ibrahimovich) The same applies to electricity consumption ...

well, if only "cool" and "cheap" were different ...

[Jefry]

Jefry , you make me embarrassed Reading you, I see my own husband in front of me.
We took a simpler model.
Ariston 460 model. Main characteristics:

* Energy class: A
* Washing class: A
* Energy saving, washing, drying efficiency class: B
* Water consumption for a standard wash cycle (l): 14.0
* Energy consumption with a standard wash cycle (kW): 0.81
* Programs: 5
* Soaking
* Eco
* Standard
* Fast with drying
* Super Wash
* Capacity of dish sets: 9
* Drying system: Wind (what kind of animal is this?)
* Temperatures: 3
* Washing temperature (° C): 40,50,65
* Noise level (dB): 53

Main functions

* Upper basket adjustment system: Standard (there is rather an inaccuracy in the description, because there is a height adjustment)
* Salt reserve indicator
* Hidden heating element

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