Dishwasher selection (1)

[Natty]

Natty, the door opens with effort. Does not swing open. Apparently, in the hall, it really has been standing for a long time. There are rims from soups, but, in the presence of a multicooker, the question disappeared by itself, in it I now cook soups
A short wait for you. Now, you can keep an eye on the dishes, it will come in handy

By the way, my husband turned from ardent opponents into the main operator of the washing machine.

Offtopic. About broths / soups in multivarka. The last time I had chicken soup left such a coating on the bottom of the saucepan, barely brought it out. I already thought that this coating was damaged.

You asked somewhere about the rims on the pots, I still have. I don’t know, maybe because I’m doing something wrong. I solved the problem like this, before placing the pots in the PMM I run a sponge along the rim, everything is washed off.

In my opinion, this is exactly what it is recommended to do when washing especially dirty things ... Correct if I am mistaken. By the way, I am doing the same.

And another question. I heard that the dishes can be immediately put in the PM, and not stored in the sink. Does anyone do this? (Joanna Khmelevskaya does this)

I do like this. It is disgraceful to save up dishes in the sink if you have a dishwasher.

I had no idea of ​​storing dirty dishes outside the dishwasher. It's always just like that. Sometimes for 2 days until the dishes accumulate.

Exactly. Also more aesthetically pleasing. I hid everything and closed the door. The beauty!

In our country, it still gets into the sink first. Everyone is reluctant to shove in the dishwasher. And then, when this disgrace has already crossed all the boundaries of what is permissible, someone who is not very lazy at the moment pushes it all into the dishwasher.

Sometimes for 2 days until the dishes accumulate.

So everything will dry up tightly in 2 days :) Then just turn on the regular wash program or intensive, or pre-rinse? And if there is no soaking function?

If I don't forget, I turn on the pre-rinse. In general, I always wash at the longest sink and everything is always washed.

[Bosch owners,]

I always use either an intensive 70 * or an auto 60 * (if the plastic containers are washed). Everything is washed off. sometimes I turn on the pre-rinse, but I do not like that after it (20 minutes) the washing program must be turned on manually. By the way, Bosch owners, Does everyone have it, or I don't know how it's done?

So everything will dry up tightly in 2 days :) Then just turn on the regular wash program or intensive, or pre-rinse? And if there is no soaking function?

Nothing dries inside the dishwasher if the door is closed tightly, but there is no evaporation unless the smell of food residues appears

By the way, owners of Bosch, do they all have it, or I don't know how it's done?

Probably for everyone, it's like an independent program. I wash everything on a car, and I always smear pots and pans (Zepter) with them with the same product.

I wash everything on a car, and I always smear pots and pans (Zepter) with them with the same product.

What kind of remedy is it?

[Bosch owners,]

Bosch owners, Does everyone have it, or I don't know how it's done?

I don't know how anyone has it, but my Bosch is fully automated. In it, all rinses and so on are already included in the main programs, of which there are only 4:
1. Sink for fragile dishes (45 * C)
2. Economical washing (50 * C)
3. Intensive wash, it is also a car (65 * C)
4. Half load.

NattyTo prevent odors from accumulating, hang the dishwasher fragrance on the loading basket.

All are fully automated. You just don't have a presoak program. This program is used if you do not need to wash the dishes yet (have not accumulated yet), but you are afraid that the food residues will dry out.

What kind of remedy is it?

Zepter releases metal cleaner. utensils. Sold there. Can be replaced with any creamy cleanser (but mine is better for me)

[Natty]

NattyTo prevent odors from accumulating, hang the dishwasher fragrance on the loading basket.

Woooooooot! I bought it, they say the smell - all over the apartment :) And I bought salt, and powder, and rinse aid. The only thing left to do is to buy the machine itself

Zepter releases metal cleaner. utensils. Sold there. Can be replaced with any creamy cleanser (but mine is better for me)

Inject - what do you use

[Zepter releases metal cleaner. utensils]

Inject - what do you use

So I say Zepter releases metal cleaner. utensils... I have been using it for many years.

[Zepter releases metal cleaner. utensils]

So I say Zepter releases metal cleaner. utensils... I have been using it for many years.

It seemed to me that Zepter's one does not suit you and that you are using some of your own means. Now it has come

Zepter releases metal cleaner. utensils.

Something I can't figure out. This product is as an addition to the powder, do you smear it on heavily dirty dishes? Or as an independent product instead of a powder? How much is this pleasure worth?

Something I can't figure out. This product is as an addition to the powder, do you smear it on very dirty dishes? Or as an independent product instead of a powder? How much is this pleasure worth?

In general, according to the intention of the manufacturer, this is an independent tool and quite copes with the assigned tasks, but I use it as an addition to the powder - before washing I smear pots and pans.We have it for 2.4 $ a bottle of 500 ml, I buy it in a company store.

Well! Done !!!!! I found the money, time and energy (and the desire was long ago !!!) to buy a dishwasher. I read the forums, and looked at the models' sites, compared them .. In short, I have a theory of 5 "I went to test it in practice.
Traveled to all major retail chains in Lipetsk. Alas! Soooo humble choice !!! Full-size (60cm) generally 2-3 models and that's it! And I just wanted a full-sized kitchen that allows, there is always something to wash ... I tuned in to BOSCH ... But the models were mostly outdated. Or completely new with a price of 28 thousand ... What I saw on the sites for 15-18 thousand were nowhere to be found ... I began to carefully look and compare ALL full-sizes ... Indesite is the most poorly done, although the characteristics are not bad ... And Ariston looked, and Asko for 35 thousand ... And you bought, you know what ?! EYELID!!!! In comparison, they had both a stainless steel tank and 5 directions of water supply. and a height-adjustable upper shelf, and in the lower holders fold-unfold, 5 programs (from 35 to 70 degrees). Sooooo pleasantly surprised. that any of the proposed programs can be run in partial load mode! Protection against leaks, from children (worse than a leak!), Program stop function (report), "3 in 1" function - for tablets .... quite quiet (47 dB), but washing class A, and drying class B. Come on, the dishes would be washed well, but they will dry themselves somehow. Although the forums climb-happy with the people and the sink. and drying ...
Manufacturer's warranty - 2 years. Manufacturer-Turkey!
I will add that there was a "-30%" promotion for all VEKO models and a huge box with Somat detergents - as a gift (1.5kg salts, 22 detergent tablets, a liter of rinse aid, 10 5in1 tablets). Thus, the PMM cost me 9 thousand rubles!
That she washed for that kind of money - I'll write tomorrow. if anyone is interested ...

[Cake]

Cake, congratulations on your purchase Now the dishes will sparkle
For the first two weeks I washed all the dishes in the house, until I ripped everything to shine A, "since such a booze has gone" (c), at the same time I went through everything in the kitchen cabinets, replaced all the cans for bulk products, washed all the shelves.But now, when there is such an assistant in the house, it is much easier to keep the kitchen perfectly clean.

And I am completely out today. First I called Eldorado - what if something new appeared? I was told that they have no dishwashers AT ALL !!! : oThis despite the fact that two weeks ago everything was forced. Of course, I did not believe it and went. It would be better if "My" Boshik did not go, which cost 24 thousand (the toad pressed her husband with terrible force) now costs 27 !!! In general, complete F

Natty? What model do you want?

[Bosch SGS 57 M82EU]

You can want anything, but you still have to choose from what the stores offer. I have already said before, looked at Bosch SGS 57 M82EUNow you have to want something else

Thank you all for your congratulations!!!
Indeed, "you will not try, you will not tell"! Everyone who has a dishwasher, congratulations. All those who do not have them, shrug their shoulders in bewilderment and conduct polemics on the topic "there is nowhere to put money, I am completely lazy, children must be brought up with labor" Yes, children must be brought up! Agree. But! I lived with my grandmother. she taught me to wash. Every Saturday I rubbed a huge piece of laundry soap into fine shavings. She poured these shavings with water and cooked a stinking liquid in a saucepan. Then, in proportion, the grandmother put this mass with caustic soda into a "bowl with a motor" and washed it for a long time. She took it out with tongs. because boiling water. Well, I learned this. So what?! When I bought myself a washing machine, I was also worried that my daughter would not wash her panties, she would be dirtier. But it turned out the other way around: to put on a thing for the third time - no way! 2 times - and in the wash, but it "stinks"! But recently she got married, the first gift for the wedding was a washing machine. All. Now my husband has put on the same, 2 times and washed. WHERE IS THE PROBLEM THAT I WAS SO FEARED ?!
So now children need to be taught how to handle home appliances! What? Put the instructions of all the electrical appliances in the apartment in a pile: OGO! Impressive. And all this must be known by heart so as not to spoil the technique! Moreover, care for any device is needed.
Regarding the price, Natty, I noticed too. that dishwasher prices have gone up. On some models, it is essential. And also "the toad strangled" for BOSCH. Before it was necessary to drink! In Eldorado, indeed, there is little choice. Try M. Video - there was a better choice (I don't know how in your city)
By the way, offtopic, but I quickly Into Eldorado they brought 4.5 liter multicooker. At a price of 5,999 rubles. Exactly a thousand more. than a month ago. so not only dishwashers ... alas ...

Well, here I also got the PM !!! URA-URA-URA! Boshechku, built-in, 45 cm, although the old model, in our city, what's newer is sooo expensive. And this is nothing like that, three programs, drying class B, and the rest is AA.
I'll try it tomorrow!

[Marfusha]

Marfusha, congratulations on your purchase

Cake, you know, the appearance of the PM in our house was tacitly perceived by family members as the command "You can pack-a-a-aat !!!" There are now more dirty dishes than before. You have to do three downloads in two days, or two more downloads a day. And this is provided that I have a large, 60-cm. car. The story of the washing machine repeats itself So, be prepared for this too, prepare a spare set of dishes for everyday use

[Natty]

Natty, look at here 🔗... There are Bosch models from 16000 r. I live in Saratov, but I bought HP and a multicooker through online stores. The ice cream maker is now in the buying process. And I haven't bought anything in Saratov for a long time. The assortment, alas ... And the prices for everything increased due to the strengthening of the dollar.

girls, how was the first dish washed? you're happy?

[marfusha]

Congratulations to the new dishwasher owners!

Well, here I also got the PM !!! URA-URA-URA! Boshechku, built-in, 45 cm, though the old model, in our city, what's newer is sooo expensive. And this is nothing like that, three programs, drying class B, and the rest is AA.
I'll try it tomorrow!

marfushaWhen I was choosing a PM for myself, I was leaning towards the 5-program Bosch 45cm, but several familiar “Boshev-owners” dissuaded them from using a cheaper “3-shka”, arguing that those programs would be enough.And so it happened - basically one program is in use.

Yes, we don’t have any M-Video, etc. We don’t even have a telephone directory (even a virtual one) to sit down and call all the shops, so as not to wander in vain - we have to catch addresses and phone numbers in advertisements or punch through the information desk for money. The village is natural: (It's not realistic to buy through and-no - the delivery is wildly worth it. Yesterday I calculated Ariston for 16,000 when the SPSR was delivered, it will cost 24 kopecks. The whole point is lost. As an unpleasant option - through friends in Moscow, but how can I imagine what to strain people with the purchase and delivery - beeeee (n) There is only one last hope - nevertheless, do not regret gasoline and drive with a sweep throughout the city - suddenly you get lucky. ...
It's funny, but in Eldorado, where they answered me on the phone that there were no dishwashers for sale, after returning from there I called again and out of anger yelled at the girl who answered me that way. Do you know what she said? What looked at the computer and there - empty. Ooooh! How I fondle the unobtrusive Soviet service!
In general, if you want a good thing - forget about laziness, break away from your computer and phone and - go ahead!
And I saw a cartoon for 5999 - my husband dragged it away (go and pray that I did not ask)

Thank you for your congratulations !
Shiva, I absolutely agree with you, there is a difference between 2 and 3 software PM, only in the number of programs, but everything is the same. Therefore, there is no point in overpaying.
I can't wait to try. Yesterday I washed the dishes first, and then installed the PM, it's a shame that I wasted nothing. Now I'm saving up dishes.

I have 7 programs, half using 2. Pre-soaking and the most intensive wash.

[Natty]

Natty, Is there no Auto Trading or Gruzovozov in your city? They are much cheaper than the SPSR. They have a tariff calculator on their website. To Saratov 600 rubles. costs shipping. Which city are you from?

[everything that is not done is done for the better]

No, after all,everything that is not done is done for the better : DWe did it - ordered on the Internet my dear Active Water BOSCH SMS 53M02 EU Shop "Elektrovenik", they have a delivery by ZhelDorExpedition. Now I would not die waiting

"What she washed for that kind of money - I'll write tomorrow. If anyone is interested ..."
Quickie, very interesting!
I'm still waiting, when will you start washing the dishes? I looked impatiently at the site, where it is written that a standard wash in your car lasts 170 minutes !!! Is it really so? 3 hours???
For me, the topic of dishwasher is also very relevant, and the price of your car is very tempting ...

I have 7 programs, half using 2. Pre-soaking and the most intensive wash.

And for a long time I used the most intensive one, and recently switched to "50C" (Economy, probably), and it seems that even the dishes were better washed, though the program lasts much longer.

We did it - ordered my dear Active Water BOSCH SMS 53M02 EU Shop "Elektrovenik" via the Internet, they have a delivery by ZhelDorExpedition. Now I would not die waiting

Wow, how sophisticated! ... That's what I'm missing - it's a display with numbers (how long until the end of the wash and any useful info), but they don't seem to exist on a full-build.

"What she washed for that kind of money - I'll write tomorrow. If anyone is interested ..."
Quickie, very interesting!
I'm still waiting, when will you start washing the dishes? I looked impatiently at the site, where it is written that a standard wash in your car lasts 170 minutes !!! Is it really so? 3 hours???
For me, the topic of dishwasher is also very relevant, and the price of your car is very tempting ...

I am not a Rush, I am a Cake
Specifically, my dishwasher is like this
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A lot of all the plumbing nonsense was not enough to attach the PM, but my desire was so great that my husband connected it "with chewing gum" and proceeded to wash it. The dishes are dirty. as ill luck would have it. I had to look for it artificially, extracting from the cabinets that had not been used for a long time. I laid it down as I could.And, well, yes, first I filled it with salt according to the instructions, with a detergent tablet (not 3 in 1, but just a detergent), filled it with rinse aid.
Turned on for the longest, ECO-wash at 50 degrees. Washes quite quietly. In the process, I looked there every half hour (this is where the minus was found !!!!: wow: you can observe through the window in the washing machine, you can observe in the bread maker, but in the dishwasher, no!) Everything is hot, everything is in steam, everything is dripping from all sides ... Barely waited for the end.
Result. What I installed correctly - washed very well and was completely dry. What was not installed correctly (put it so that a "pocket" of sludge was formed during the washing process, the thing tilted and formed an overlap of one another) - washed worse or was washed normally, but water collected. In particular. it happened with the bowl and blender of the food processor. There are many hard-to-reach labyrinths.
In the process of washing, I opened the door and a couple of times washing liquid got on my hand. Nuclear mixture, I will report to you! The hand burned noticeably (+ the temperature is not small!). So I concluded that the best washing (compared to manual washing) is not due to some "magic design", but due to more aggressive detergents and high temperatures.
About the washing time. The display keeps a fraternal countdown - awesome!
Pre-wash - 35 degrees, 20 minutes.
Program 30 minutes - 35 degrees, 30 minutes.
Delicate - 40 degrees, 71 minutes
ECO wash - 50 degrees, 155 minutes.
Quick & Clean - 65 degrees, 58 minutes (like this: fast and hot!)
Intensive - 70 degrees, 136 minutes.
I think I will mainly use hot modes.
What else to say about the car? Not noisy, bright, informative display with large symbols (my husband simply does not distinguish between small icons, vision is already failing, so this is important for me), there are few buttons, it is very easy to start the car (which means you can let my mother get close to the equipment, she is and it is necessary to "on-off", otherwise it will screw up!) I adjusted the upper shelf to the height of my plates (they are more than the average diameter) - it immediately began to fit more. Now I would not let you down in terms of service ... But I consulted the specialists, they say, there are not many complaints in the CENTURY. Well. God forbid!

I forgot to add. The PM included a water hardness tester. Without looking for any test results in management companies (and what do they know there ?!), I wetted the test strip with water from my own tap and a minute later I already knew what degree of hardness to program in the car. Fine!

"I'm not a Hurry, I'm a Tortyzhka Making eyes"
I'm sorry. I'm impatient. I really wanted to hear a review. And now, when I heard that the car was even nothing, I was also puzzled by this brand. The price is 3 times more attractive than Bosch. I will study.

You know, I came to the conclusion that purchases should be made "from the opposite." That is, go shopping, take a look. touch, smell, twist, open. Record model names and prices. Do not ask the sellers anything, you will be known as an idiot !!! : -X I, for example, again laughed at these "consultants". He says to me: "This is a good model, for example" I opened it and said: Here the heater is open - I don't want one! He gazed at me: Where is open ??? Yo! Here, I say. see for yourself, this is an outdated model, but it is sold as quite modern (for the money). He climbed into the dishwasher up to his waist (!!!) and got out so surprised
So, with the models and prices of the cars you like, ask for our irreplaceable tyrnet and here you can already look and compare. And you make the final choice.
Happy shopping!
vfrcbvf, so inexpensively I got the PM for the action. actually it is a little more expensive ... A friend came here today, she liked the results of the car wash. lit up with a purchase, but (a practical girl!) will be waiting for New Year's sales, which are not far off. So if there is a "financial strain", it makes sense to wait for the holidays.

[Cake]

Cake, do not get carried away by opening the dishwasher during operation, it is not recommended.

Wow, how sophisticated!

In fact, all the bells and whistles are show-offs and a way to rip off more money :) I looked at the mechanics, but it does not have a child lock, and this, with my spinning gnaws, is one of the main selection criteria

And I don't really hope for consultants in stores either, today in Technosil a boy said to me with longing in his voice "yes, they are all the same"

Who is the same - consultants or dishwashers

Yes, the consultants are stupid.
And I have finally washed the dishes. Super! Everything is clean, shiny and dry.
I put it on the longest 60 ", coped with a little over an hour, because I was connected to hot water. And although the drying class was B, everything was dry.
In general, I am VERY happy !!!

Consultants are different. Today we left another store with swollen brains, so we were "consulted" - we barely escaped. I really thought that they would not be released without a purchase. I'll have to buy two dishwashers (I could not choose one of them).

And I like to look for information in the Internet. Here is an excellent forum for those who are undecided and for those who own PMM a lot of interesting things
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