Kitchen machine Kenwood (2)

So I saw Kenwood with its good-quality nozzles, no matter how much I tried to persuade myself that I didn't need such a brutal friend, but I could get by with other more budgetary firms, I could not persuade myself. had to save up for Kesha

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Pavel, you intrigued me with the internal plastic parts. I phoned those Kenwood services, and it turned out that the plastic part in all Kenwoods, both expensive and cheap, is one, a gear on a belt drive to a gearbox. The pricing policy is made up of anything, just not because of the internal plastic parts

"It turned out" is not an entirely appropriate word in this context. There is no particular trust in those Kenwood services. Here, only an autopsy can show something objectively. For example, they claim that the wiping sieve is made of food grade stainless steel, but in fact it wipes and rusts, that is, obviously, rust with some kind of coating. And the sales assistant at the Kenwood booth spoke about the presence of plastic parts in cheap models. And more inclined to trust him. How else to explain that almost identical models 336 and 570 differ in price by half.

How else to explain that almost identical models 336 and 570 differ in price by half.

Of course, managers from local shops should have more trust than those. Kenwood specialists, definitely. And the price varies due to the power of the gearbox, a different schematic diagram of the device in some details, and a lot of other things. Before this post, I was also interested in the insides of kenwood, and everyone says that a distinctive feature of kenwood is a completely metal internal assembly of parts

This is Canwood's own employee

This is Canwood's own employee

Then it costs nothing to catch the "trade engine" or those. specialist, by dissection, as they say, an autopsy will show, but still, probably Kenwood is not Bosch, but Kenwood

Then it costs nothing to catch the "trade engine" or those. specialist, by preparation

You just need to open at least a few devices. And it is not known how this will affect the warranty. And on the network I did not see any video or photo of the autopsy of our cars.

no photos of the autopsy of our cars.

let's leave the results of the "autopsy" on the conscience of the manufacturer, otherwise it already smells like a clinic

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that's for sure

let's leave the results of the "autopsy" on the conscience of the manufacturer, otherwise it already smells like a clinic

By no means, they open the iPhones and look at the filling. But with household appliances, something is not very good.

[Jiri]

Jiri, Irish, does it turn out that even the simplest one also has all the insides of metal?

I’m talking to the owner of my red-haired 357. She’s happy. He is not going to change and exchange for another. I even bought something from the attachments. Very noisy, but that's the cost of production.
She tells me, and I feel so good. I smile.
Now I'll tell you about the insides.

Jiri, Irish, does it turn out that even the simplest one also has all the insides of metal?

I read about this on the forums before, but today an engineer from those services confirmed this, I want to believe .. After all, Bosch does not hide that the screws are plastic

I read about this on the forums before, but today an engineer from those services confirmed this, I want to believe .. After all, Bosch does not hide that the screws are plastic

Let's say, and how then do cheap ones differ from expensive ones?

Let's say, and how then do cheap ones differ from expensive ones?

And the price varies due to the power of the gearbox, a different schematic diagram of the device in some details, and a lot of other things.

And quality.

oh, but to me all this is solely for the sake of curiosity: plastic or metal.
The main thing is that this does not affect the quality of work.
Will it fall apart? .. Then we'll think about it. And we will solve the problem exclusively by the time of its appearance.

I also saw Kenka in Ozone yesterday for 61 thousand. I even put it in the basket.

And quality.

But no one disputed this fact, the conversation was about plastic insides

Will it fall apart? .. Then we'll think about it. And we will solve the problem exclusively by the time of its appearance.

Ritual, why would they suddenly fall apart? They don't work in a cafe. Plastic boshes have been working for friends for years, my mulinex mixer is also very solid, albeit with plastic parts

Come on, Irish, that's me ... By the way. I have no idea that something will fall apart there.
Plastic or not plastic ?!
Ay ...
Anyway, the most budgetary Kenka will show his "I" in front of many kneaders.
This is me to the fact that plastic budget Kens with a power of 800 W are very wonderful.

[Rit]

I also saw Kenka in Ozone yesterday for 61 thousand. I even put it in the basket.

Rit, the question is immodest, why put it ???

And how does 096 differ from 086?

And how does 096 differ from 086?

nothing.

an immodest question, why put it ???

what is this, Natus, immodest. Very modest.
I wanted to find out, but the unit or all this will fit in the basket.
Painfully the price was tempting.

I remember they wrote in this thread, and I read it completely before buying, all the branches also wrote that there are more plastic parts in cheaper caches and basically recommended buying more proven models of the 010 and 020 series, in which there are an order of magnitude more metal parts.
I am inclined to believe this fact, otherwise the pricing is simply not clear then.
True, the presence of plastic parts does not mean that everything will break tomorrow. You need to choose according to your needs. If you use it once a month, then there is no point in overpaying.

Anyway, the most budgetary Kenka will show his "I" in front of many kneaders.

Rituula, you're wrong. Boshiki from the expensive series are in no way inferior to the Kenwoods. Great cars.
If I was choosing from pains now, I would buy an XL car.

And no need to praise, what you yourself got rid of))

People read you and misunderstand your posts. And then they buy and disappointment comes.
Kenwoods have good cars starting from models 560/570 760/770 10.20, induction series and Sens
series.
The rest is plastic and budget.

And yesterday the book was brought to me, thrown into the mailbox well, it is necessary, as promised !! The book is beautiful, the recipes are unexpectedly interesting and modern !!

And no need to praise, what you yourself got rid of))

I got rid of it more because of my stupidity, and not because of my mind, to be completely frank.
Now I think how much money I could save and put in the right direction, then it becomes bad.

People read you and misunderstand your posts.

understood. I won't write anything more.

The rest is plastic and budget.

Mash, but that doesn't mean bad quality, etc. Don't scare me. Everyone takes on their own budget.

[Rituslya]

Rituslya, here's what you sold 020, so very sorry (((
TC 020 Kenwood is bought by those who are professionally engaged in confectionery))
So you praise your induction Keshka, he's cool !!

[Business]

Business, ElenaSo I don't write that it's bad, but just write that these are budget models.
I have Boshik, the most budgetary of the budget, plastic, but I still like it))
The only thing that he has a dough limit is that he cannot knead a kilo of dough.

[Rituslya]

I saw Kenka in Ozone for 61 thousand

Rituslya, what Kenka were you talking about? For the sake of curiosity, I went to Ozone. Well done they are! ) 96 model -126490 and so cute that it turns out to be "Special Price".And not a special skoko?

Yes, in Ozone it cost $ 61 at the weekend, I also saw it.

what Kenka were you talking about?

about Kenwood KM094.
I have it now in "Temporarily out of sale" hanging out.

Here I read the forum and I can not understand - why are you all obsessed with Ozone? There are wild prices, and even more delivery! Explain to me, pliz - maybe I misunderstand I took mine in Eldorado, on Ozone 50% more expensive

Can I get in about budget Kenwoods?

I had a Prospero, they don't like him here, but still a good car for a price of up to 20,000 (as now you can buy with a stock). The only serious drawback is that the upper part moved during kneading, but this was constructively conceived. And so - a wonderful design, a bunch of attachments (the same food processor included).

I was impatient to buy nozzles that are not in the Prospero (a sieve and a mill, and I also wanted a good meat grinder). It was then that I thought about changing the unit. And since the money after the recent renovation was not enough, I began to look at first color and 336. I went with my husband to a techno-force to see it live (I have been consulting with him on all purchases for a long time, he immediately tells me about constructive flaws).
The quality was frankly upset for the colored people. How to explain - it looks and feels like some kind of imperfection, rather large gaps ... The 336 has a better situation, but I would not say that much. In general, my husband was shocked that Kenwood produces this.
Naturally, they did not buy it, although it was then impatient. Prospero is assembled much better and did not want to change it to budget CM.

I have not tried these devices in action, just subjective feelings. I love quality things very much and I am very picky about what I use. So everything is purely IMHO.

[anna_k]

anna_k, Anh, by the way Sens is generally handsome !! So I was pleased with the build quality! I talked him all over.
cool machine, but you can't tell from the photo))

Linen, I rarely buy there either.

why are you all obsessed with Ozone?

not, not obsessed. It's just that in this case the price for 094 Ken in 61 thousand was really very good.

[Rita]

Rita, got it!

There are good promotions and discounts on Ozone, in addition, there is an opportunity to pay with thank you bonuses and accumulated points. In addition, such prices for the Steba pressure cooker, as on Ozone, were not found anywhere else. Well, delivery is inexpensive - 50-200 rubles against 600 to the shopping center (at least in our city). And on Kenwood, Ozone often had stocks. You just need to catch.

Ordered Kenwood 020. I chose for a long time, I wanted with induction, but common sense overpowered. I don't have much to use induction. Maybe in the future .., but for now we will master 020. I will go to study about the nozzles ..

[nika1980]

nika1980, I congratulate myself, too, recently became the owner of 020. I decided for myself that I need AT647, but I can't find it anywhere, if you find yourself, whistle if there is still an extra one

[nika1980]

nika1980, I congratulate myself, too, recently became the owner of 020. I decided for myself that I need AT647, but I can't find it anywhere, if you find yourself, whistle if there is still an extra one

Thank you. Okay, I'll hang it.

rather large gaps ...

Where?

[nika1980]

nika1980, now on Avito you can buy AT320 at a price of 1500 for new ones, people get rid of the excess after the action. I already took it for myself, although at that time the cheapest offer was 2500 rubles.

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I have Boshik, the most budgetary of the budget, plastic, but I still like it))
The only thing that he has a dough limit is that he cannot knead a kilo of dough.

Before Kenwood, I used Polaris PFP0606 for 8 years (an exact copy of Bosch MUM4), which was bought for 2 t. p. and still works properly. Of course, when kneading yeast dough, I had to hold it with my hands, because I like to knead at 2 speeds, but it is not designed for this and it sausages a lot (it can jump off the table). The husband usually says: "Don't torture the animal!"
100% in it, most of the parts are plastic, this is understandable even by weight - I can easily lift it with one hand (and for example Kenwood 570 and it is difficult to carry two). But, the irony of fate lies in the fact that during all this time only one detail has broken in it - metal the kneading hook broke in half ... We welded at the factory and continues to work safely. And there are no problems with whipping at all.

I didn’t try to buy Kenwood at all, but when the ruble collapsed last December, I couldn’t stand it and bought 570 for 17. I just wanted not to jump during kneading and still really wanted a rubberized nozzle so that the butter cream would whip without my participation, otherwise I had to constantly throw it off the walls with a spatula. With the latter, there was a problem - my Kenwood is not perfectly centered and removes oil only from the left side of the bowl. Here, I handed it over to the service last Thursday for adjustment ... I am very worried so as not to spoil it.

And I also really liked Sens in the store - handsome! Now, probably, I would have bought it ... To him it seems like extra. Are the chef's attachments suitable? True, I don't have a lot of them: 501, 511, a powerful 5-bar whisk and a stainless steel hook from 010. I regret that I did not buy a dough sheeter, now the price for them is comparable to the one that I gave for the whole combine

Well, let's say a technology released 10 years ago is made of better materials and lasts longer. I have several Braun blenders (6550 and 2 subsequent models with different SKUs, but essentially the same). So, I can say with confidence that each subsequent model works worse. I can't say bad things about bowls and knives, but the motor itself is weakening.

obsessed with Ozone

hardly anyone is crazy
As for me, I first go to Yandex Market, where I compare prices and store ratings.

Can you please tell me what to look for if you buy a combine from your hands? They say that they did not use ...

Ask to turn on, listen to the sound of the motor. The main thing is that it would work evenly without jumps. Look under the plugs of the additional slots to see if they rotate and if there are any foreign crumbs or scuffs. If something is spilled and then washed, it will be visible.

And if there is no receipt, then there will be no guarantee from the manufacturer?

Unfortunately, most likely yes. Because you must indicate the date of purchase.
If it was a gift, the donors will still find out that it was sold, maybe they still have a receipt. It is reckless to throw away a check for such an expensive purchase.

And if you make a mark somewhere in the warranty card?