Bread maker - dough mixer

Brothers and sisters!

We bake bread in the oven and we want to take HP mainly for kneading dough. Tell me which model is most suitable for this?
So I understand that there should be several selection parameters, and besides the simple presence of the dough kneading function, it is also important to control it over a wide range, as well as the kneading quality.
I want to make a reservation that, of course, budget options are being considered.
Perhaps the topic was discussed. If it does not complicate, kinte a link.

If you are only going to knead dough in a bread maker, then you will only be satisfied with the Dough - kneading mode, one proofing - and that's it.
This is enough, at least for me I bake bread in the oven, knead in a bread maker.
You can even make dumplings in this mode.

Then take the simplest and cheapest bread maker.

Then take the simplest and cheapest bread maker.

This is the question. What should be the correct mixing mode and who has it better implemented.

Yes, all bread makers have the same kneading mode on the Dough program.
Kneading-pause-kneading-proofing.
It is best to take cotton, where the duration of the proofing is longer and the total program time is about 1.30-1.40 hours.

As a rule, 25-30 minutes are allotted for the batch itself and 1-1.10 minutes for proofing

This can be checked according to the instructions for the x / stove, there should be a table with a breakdown by phases and time.

there are just bread kneaders, outwardly like a bread maker, only they do not have a tena like .. on the other hand, it is more convenient when there is a heating so that the dough rises / stands in the warmth. These are * stoves * cheap.

Thank you.
Did not met. Can you recommend a specific model?
And then Boshevsky dough mixer for almost 500 green = recommended, but this is not about our budget.
Admin, thanks, already something. I will watch. It's a pity these data are not published in advertising.

Duc, it's easier to buy an inexpensive stove and use it as a kneader .. smaller, more can also be chosen.

Thank you. The fact that HP is the best kneader, I already understood. Now the question is, which one to prefer. And a question to your operating experience, because, firstly, the instructions describe this option extremely poorly, and more often they do not say anything in detail about it, and secondly, it is not clear how much you can trust what you have written.

What kind of dough do you want to knead? If only yeast or other soft dough, then I agree that any cheap HP will do, and if fresh steep dough, then not everyone will knead it

I would like, of course, universalism, so that my wife ... what is it like in advertising "you are a woman, not a kneader." But mostly she makes yeast-free sourdough dough of course.

Well, I’m just for example. Maybe less sonorous. By the way, I noticed an interesting pattern. if a new Chinese "brand" appears, as a rule, it is a copy of a well-known one and I suspect that with the same details. only the hulls are assembled at a nearby factory. So the quality is very high, and the price is several times lower. But then there is a serious deterioration in quality. That is, they can be taken, but only newly appeared.

[Verniy,]

: hi: hello everyone! I just crucified yesterday about my stoves here - 46 post with picturespress,

shl. Verniy, current not Moulinex ...

[Verniy,]

: hi: hello everyone! I just crucified yesterday about my stoves here - 46 post with picturespress,

shl. Verniy, current not Moulinex ...

I looked at yours, but they are not available now.
The mule is clear. What about Redmond RBM-1901?
By the way, I looked at the Metro in the mentioned Alaska. It costs the same 2000 rubles as Redmond. What is the best choice?

And as a tetomes I "see" Orion 206 .....big bucket, 2 scoops (for bread under 1250g) ..... and there is a delay for the "dough" mode .... tested for relatives ... good ... big ... and not expensive ... ...

lack of Orion - there are no spare parts for it ... I have already encountered, I was looking for an additional bucket) Of course, before the bucket wears out, it will work out its cost ...

[Erisson BM-250]

I looked at yours, but they are not available now.

you cannot have them (Delfa is an internal Foxtrot brand) in Russia, an analogue, that is, the stove's muzzle and insides are the same - made at the same plant in China. You can read here for more horizons here
An analogue of my big Delphi you have in Russia Erisson BM-250
, but this is if you need a large volume - it has at least 900, max. 1.5. kg of bread.


shl. I can't say anything about Redmond RBM-1901 yet. We need to look for twins and reviews, and most importantly a first-hand photo of bread.

[Verny]

Verny, have you already decided on the size? How much dough do you usually knead? or you don't care what size x \ n will be?

lack of Orion - there are no spare parts for it ... I have already encountered, I was looking for an additional bucket) Of course, before the bucket wears out, it will work out its cost ...

I have a bucket for 4 years .. I don't even think about replacing



and Verniy, as I understand it, is not going to bake anything in x \ n, the dough does not spoil the bucket at all.

[Verny]

Verny, have you already decided on the size? How much dough do you usually knead? or you don't care what size x \ n will be?

I think about 1000 g will be fine. Although, of course, I am more interested in the quality of the batch than in the baking. And if it is higher for 2000g stoves (twin-screw), then you can take them. But probably they are more expensive.

I think about 1000 g will be fine. Although, of course, I am more interested in the quality of the kneading, rather than baking. And if it is higher for 2000g stoves (twin-screw), then you can take them. But probably they are more expensive.

if you take a non-brand stove, then no, not more expensive. The quality of the batch in any HP is better than without HP. And the batch in 2 mixers is more powerful and shorter than in one: flowers:

here I feel ... let's chat a couple more pages ... and everyone will need a kneader ... then let's go back to the deviceaholics ...
I had thoughts about an ordinary dough mixer (I saw it in a neckerman), but there are no lids, tena, and of course we need to put all this happiness somewhere on the rise ... it’s better to really take a cheap one ...

[for kneading]

better really x \ n cheap to take ...

So I took for kneading the cheapest Orion 27G, but it turned out that with its bucket design, the batch is disgusting (you have to help with a spatula, otherwise flour remains in the corners) ...

And in my old lady GALA everything got in the way without problems, that's why I was looking for a second bucket for her - it came up from Orion 204 (such as the one for Gypsy a couple of posts above), but I could not find

Mila, what was wrong with the design of the bucket? Does he have a different shape, or is the shoulder blade short? At 206, 2 shoulder blades perfectly knead the dough at relatives ... sometimes the baking even ran away ... they called ... complained ... it turned out that they put the baking on with a delay for the night ... and in the morning they forgot ...

[Teen,]

Teen, sun! if for kneading and proofing - take a uniquely 2-mixer. And also, so that there are more progs for the dough, in addition to yeast - in this Delph - there is - trembling, pasta - 14 minutes, biscuit (cake) and shortbread. The latter is heated to heat oil. And 2 mixers, they are much more wet in a way and you can cook jam in it not a glass .. in general, you just need a shelf where you can attach it and take it out from time to time;) The price of the issue is 500 g (less than 70 cu about)

pysy. She also helped me out in the summer, when the heat was driving the oven, I would knead the dough and bake rolls in a bucket and like challah.

Irr, if I now hint about one more x \ n, even as a kneader, I will definitely be evicted to the snow .... along with the dough. And Panaski is really not enough for me in terms of volume ...

Irr, if I now hint about one more x \ n, even as a kneader, I will definitely be evicted to the snow ...

you will be like all of us ... or else il!

Then let's talk about Delfa in more detail !!!!

Bucket dimensions?
Is there a delay in starting the test?

Then let's talk about Delfa in more detail !!!!

Bucket dimensions?
Is there a delay in starting the test?

yeah. Catch - 12 by 23 (approximately, it is slightly streamlined). Timer with a delay e only for sand. the rest of the timer does not take, conductive checked.

my mother-in-law liberton 05 is also good and the bucket fits mine.

And the height?

Orion has 12 * 22 * ​​13

And the height?

Orion has 12 * 22 * ​​13

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.. so, we continue the educational program ...
and how much dough did you knead? weight
I stuffed 760g of flour into Orion .... the dimensions are almost the same .... but it has 1250g max. weight, although on sites with descriptions they often indicate 1500 ...

.. so, we continue the educational program ...
and how much dough did you knead? weight
I stuffed 760g of flour into Orion .... the dimensions are almost the same .... but it has 1250g max. weight, although on sites with descriptions they often indicate 1500 ...

oops! everyone knows - I have no scales ... But, a lot ... bread is baked for one and a half kg. you can safely knead a kilo of flour - that's for sure.

well, once for 1 kg of flour. ........ then they will definitely identify me in the snow together with rolls ...

[for kneading]

So I took for kneading the cheapest Orion 27G, but it turned out that with its bucket design, the batch is disgusting (you have to help with a spatula, otherwise flour remains in the corners) ...

Here I am about the same. Not all stoves can be seen equally well with kneading. Who can recommend reliable proven models of preferably Russian brands (in the sense that they can be bought in Russia)
By the way (or not by the way) someone here recommended a fancy Bosch dough mixer for 5,000 rubles and my wife fell for it. How to convince her that HP interferes better? Or am I wrong?

By the way (or not by the way) someone here recommended a fancy Bosch dough mixer for 5,000 rubles and my wife fell for it. How to convince her that HP interferes better? Or am I wrong?

The main difference between a bread machine and a mixer is that it will not only knead, but also proof the dough with heating, knead and, if desired, bake it itself, that is, it does absolutely the entire bread cycle, and it can do it with a delay. And Boshik will only knead you.

And Boshik will only knead you.

Well, at least qualitatively knead? Or is the quality of the batch of HP higher?

you need to find out from the owners of Bosches, I don't have it, I can't compare. I have Brown, the dough kneads no worse than x \ n.

more about the min / max amount of dough, find out, otherwise they are fussy mixers .. they can smear the dough on the walls, or vice versa, they cannot knead a lot .. they will burn out from tension

Well, at least qualitatively knead? Or is the quality of the batch of HP higher?

you see ... it's all about automation - that is, the stove kneads without your participation. I threw it and went to sleep for an hour and a half. I got up, molded a loaf and into the oven. But Boshik is also nada

Boshik, perhaps, will knead cool (I do not know its power), but then you and your wife will have to run around with small bowls and look for a warm place without drafts. And after that, you will stain the pens more than once and wash off the dough. And get it out of the HP and immediately for cutting.
And a normal food processor will knead the dough for noodles, dumplings and dumplings better. And if CP, then you will need to knead such a dough with an additional amount of flour manually on the table. In short, both are necessary

but I don’t mix dumplings with my hands, everything is fine, the stove kneads

[gypsies,]

Lyudochka, 2-mixer firmly kneads on dumplings and noodles. There is no need to stir. Have gypsies, by the way one-mixer and good too.

shl. she herself responded first

you see ... it's all about automation - that is, the stove kneads without your participation. I threw it and went to sleep for an hour and a half. I got up, molded a loaf and into the oven. But Boshik is also nada

+1

Exactly At 6-7 in the morning, for example, you go into the kitchen, and the dough is ready. I made some buns and pies and in an hour or two you can have breakfast

You go into the kitchen, and the dough is ready. I made some buns and pies and in an hour or two you can have breakfast

and I'm talking about the same ... but you just need to know the model with a delay at the start for the test, this is usually not written in the instructions ... therefore you need to share experience ...

You can put the dough with a delay on the bread program, just count to wake up before baking starts and voila

Or you can turn on the x \ n and turn on the electronic timer ... so as not to run from sleep ...

[Brown]

I have Brown, the dough kneads no worse than x \ n.

Who is this, can you be more precise?

Such a Braun K3000


here nafotala how he kneads dough on dumplings
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=22571.90

Good thing, 6 but not budget.

Yes honey

Do not suffer, buy a bread maker, and then buy a mixer-combine, one does not interfere with the other

I'll buy a bread maker, but I'll just decide which one.
Which mixer would you recommend for mixing? I suppose with a rotating bowl.

I'll buy a bread maker, but I'll just decide which one.
Which mixer would you recommend for mixing? I suppose with a rotating bowl.

rather, with a rotating hook, all good ones are expensive .. Bosches are only inexpensive and maybe some other uncommon companies.

for example such a planetary mixer


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If you want to see less promoted and not so expensive models of planetary mixers in your kitchen, then you can safely go shopping. Today, you can find many options to suit any need. After all, most manufacturers today produce mixers and combines for restaurants and pastry shops, as well as for ordinary households.
The technique of the famous German company Krups will suit true gourmets. Against the background of space products of the same Kenwood, the Krups models look more casual and comfortable. Perhaps this feeling is due to the fact that black plastic is used for the case, and not metal.
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Thank you, kind person!