AVK
The main thing is that the grain is not burnt by rotary knives and the grinding is uniform. For a Turk, you cannot get this in an electric milk.
Mirabel
Quote: gawala
... What they stuffed into Lavatz
well, probably this Brand will not "lower" itself to stuffing too much, though ...
one must try and compare tastes. But when you are in a hurry, is there still time to grind coffee





Quote: AVK
the grinding is homogeneous
I do not pretend to be a high connoisseur of coffee at all, although I will distinguish it from a normal one. For me, in decent types of coffee, the grinding seems to be fine and homogeneous. But in any case, until you compare, you cannot evaluate in any way
SoNika
Vika, yes, the good speak Turkish ...
Alexander, electric with conical millstones is no worse.
Mirabel
Quote: SoNika
yes, the good ones speak Turkish.
mechanical coffee grinders?
SoNika
Vika, yes, manual ... I am sure, like according to reviews, one of the best
pawllena
Quote: SoNika
I am aware, like the reviews, are some of the best
More Urartu
win-tat
Quote: Mirabel
owners of manual coffee grinders! and crushed coffee by them is much better than crushed by someone and sold to us?
Vic, everyone seems to know that it is better to grind coffee just before brewing, otherwise it quickly loses its aroma and oxidizes, it is stored in the beans better than ground coffee.
I have several hand-held ones and among them there is a Turkish Sozen, a gorgeous thing, I have already written about it, it is easy to grind, 10 grams per cup I grind "into the dust" for 1 minute absolutely without straining, but what a scent.
Quote: Mirabel
quite good Illy and Lavazza coffee is already ground on sale
Certainly not bad, but you cannot preserve all its wonderful properties after opening the package.
Quote: Mirabel
can they grind something else very well with them?
Vic, well, you're not going to grind cereals on it. Her, manual a coffee grinder, I think, only for coffee, it's not an electric one, on which you can whack everything you want.
Mirabel
thanks to all! I can't get either Sosen or Urartu, but they sometimes sell rare coffee grinders at flea markets
Ladies! but how can you find out about its quality from the external data of the coffee grinder? or just need to grind coffee?
it turns out Sosen is on Ibei local, expensive such or such
win-tat
Quote: Mirabel
sometimes they sell rare coffee grinders at flea markets
I have a Soviet rarity
Coffee Grinder # 387
Vic, until you start grinding, you don't know. I also brought my rarity to mind.
And Sozen ordered from Turkish ebay
Svetlenki
Quote: win-tat
I have a Soviet rarity

Tan, do you use it? To my shame, I have never ground coffee in it ... Even they scare me for 5 minutes for a cup of coffee
win-tat
Quote: Svetlenki
do you use it?
But of course, I take them in turn so that they do not stand idle, all the more they grind the same, for 1 minute.
Light, and from where 5 minutes? Is it hard to twist?
Svetlenki
Quote: win-tat
Light, and from where 5 minutes? Is it hard to twist?

I read about 5 minutes somewhere and believed that it was so long. Itself grind only once and it seemed to me that grinds faster.

We need to pull ourselves together and bring it to mind. It seems not hard to twist, but the grind is not uniform, it seems, not dust. Not that for my Archlick. Yes, and I saw your cup with brewed coffee - I can't do that. You have to try either to turn the nut, or to knock out the screw and improve it, because for me to grind in 1 minute is tolerable. Five minutes is too long.

Now I use Straume electric. But you have to switch to manual, that's for sure.
SoNika
Vika, there is a nuance - advice from coffee lovers if the freshly roasted grain is "not fermented" and you want coffee, then the pros grind the grains and leave for an hour, then brew coffee. Believe me, Vic, checked, awesome coffee !!!
Oh, I don't know, I'm very happy with my electric millstone
Mirabel
Quote: SoNika
Believe me, Vic, checked, awesome coffee !!!
I readily believe! but roasting the grains, holding them, and then grinding them is too much in my opinion or for me. Jumping so much with coffee ... well, it can grind the grain, but I will still pull coffee in Archelica sometimes, but no more





Quote: SoNika
millstone very happy
what is yours?
gawala
Quote: Mirabel
but roasting the grains, holding them, and then grinding it too much in my opinion, or
Vic, well, for my own love .. I fry and stand. If you come by, come in, I will treat you to me.
AVK
Quote: Mirabel

For me, in decent types of coffee, the grinding seems to be fine and homogeneous.
For a geyser, maybe. But it is too coarse for a Turk - the "sand" creaks on his teeth. And how much aroma is lost in it ...




Quote: SoNika

Alexander, electric with conical millstones is no worse.
I looked through a lot of reviews about compact milk - everywhere there are complaints about the lack of grinding "into dust".
And to buy a large professional ...




Quote: pawllena

More Urartu
There are several other recognized leaders. But there prices start at $ 200.




Quote: win-tat

Her, manual coffee grinder, I think, only for coffee
Of course. By the way, the same Turkish ones are often included in the kit: a large milk for coffee and a small one for spices.
Mirabel
Quote: gawala
You will pass by, come in, I will treat you

AVK
Quote: win-tat

Sozen, chic thing
I only have a pen in it - why such a small holder ?! Do the natives have small fingers? )
Mirabel
Quote: AVK
"sand" squeaks on my teeth.
so and that sand is in the sediment and is thrown away .. or should it be so fine that it is necessary to use and not notice?
we have more Turks than locals, at least in Brussels. For some reason, I have not seen such coffee grinders in their shops, and in their cafes they sell coffee, in my opinion, not at all better than mine. The sediment remains so tangible in the cup.
SoNika
Vika, I don't have a cheap Rommelsbacher EKM 300, but you can probably get it cheaper ...
Quote: AVK
And to buy a large professional ...
our grinds very well. finely, that's why we dropped this model. Well, I don’t know, what about the size and price ... it cost about 8 tons. If there is a desire, I will dare and take a picture.




all the more fine grinding is needed only for brewing in cezve and well-roasted coffee. I prefer light roast, elite varieties. I don’t aim at super varieties, my pocket will not pull, Vika, who understands coffee and drank "soft roasted" coffee, will not drink heavily roasted coffee, but from every rule, ...
Alas, I do not fry, this is Galina special, I buy it in beans, from certain roasters and grind.
Mirabel
Quote: SoNika
who understands coffee
Well, then I do not understand it and thank God!
AVK
Quote: Mirabel

should it be so small that it should be consumed and not noticed?
Perfectly. )
SoNika
Vika, oh well, berate yourself, I am also crazy when I hear or read that on the first sips I felt the aroma of nuts and wild berries, after a couple of minutes I felt the taste of almonds and cherries, these things are definitely beyond my control, but the coffee is roasted for only 3 days, resin and after standing for 1 hour, drank with taakim pleasure ... mmm. Vic, the main thing is to choose your varieties, acidity, strength, etc. ..., there is a good site that I have, like a handbook, I read, re-read there inf. about coffee and bastard

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almost any question about coffee can be answered
AVK
Familiar site. )
At one time, they were surprised by their advice to cook Robusta in cezve.
vatruska
I ordered a simple plastic millstone coffee grinder for Ali, now I'm waiting to try ...
Mirabel
Quote: SoNika
self-flagellate
nope .. I don’t even berate myself at all ... but I really thought I was drinking normal coffee In Italy, in Greece, in the same Turkey, but it seems. still did not drink.
thanks for the link, I will study





Svetlana, and share a link
I have not yet decided where to go, whether to buy a Turkish one, or at a flea market, or self-educate myself on a published website.

or to score everything and keep drinking Illy in Archelic and capsules in Nespresso


SoNika
Svetlana, be lucky mlyn don't pronounce your nickname
I already have several of them, the handle scrolls.
gawala
Quote: Mirabel
capsules in Nespresso
Vic, what are you? What capsules? Throw out seychas, this is byaka byakova.
SoNika
Vika, it also depends on the dosage .., I drank in the same place and drove it to my friends, but coffee turned out to be tastier that summer in Spain, everyone has their own taste ..., but a friend praised the capsules, praised ... now that he does not praise, says that garbage , and the body began to swear.
gawala
Study

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AVK
Quote: vatruska

I ordered a simple plastic millstone coffee grinder for Ali
Plastic? No, well, maybe, of course, a miracle will happen ...
I also bought the first unpretentious one (but metal and with ceramic millstones). I grind one portion for 5-7 minutes, and the grind ... I threw it away.
win-tat
Quote: AVK
Turkish ones are often included in the kit: a large milk for coffee and a small one for spices.
I ordered this in addition to Sozen

Coffee grinder
Coffee grinder


Quote: AVK
why such a small holder ?!
Maybe it's too small for men's hands, it's convenient for me to twist.
Quote: Mirabel
but roasting the grains, holding them, and then grinding them is too much in my opinion or for me. So much coffee jumping ...
Similarly, just a "tea ceremony" ..., also not for me
Quote: Mirabel
or self-talk on the published site.
You need it, or are you a coffee maniac feeling
Quote: SoNika
on the first sips we felt the aroma of walnut and wild berries, after a couple of minutes we felt the taste of almonds and cherries
I don't have such professional receptors to recognize all this, so I grind the purchased roasted beans on a manual coffee grinder, I can't stand anything, I cook in Beko and enjoy.
vatruska
AVK, so it's easy for me to compare - what will happen after the millstone, maybe we won't feel any difference, well, we are not gourmets ...
Mirabel, like this

ru.aliexpress.com/item/Tuansing-Manual-Ceramic-Coffee-Grinder-Washable-ABS-Ceramic-core-Stainless-Steel-Home-Kitchen-Mini-Manual-Hand/32644786410.html?

SoNika
Tatyana, well, I have just switched to a dripper, this is just coffee curd (pur over) and for me it's a thrill, at first I also thought, was it nano for me? It turned out to be nano.
But occasionally I turn on the coffee machine or brew it in a Turk, everything from the variety, roasting and desire
Moreover, she brewed coffee, 35-37 years ago, when it came to us in ground mass in bags, they drank too ...
Mirabel
Quote: gawala
Throw out seychas, this is byaka byakova.
as it is very categorical however ... Many local friends-friends drink and do not bother and we in the morning before work-study too, and everything seems to be not bad.





Svetlana, thanks for the reference!




Quote: win-tat
or are you a coffee maniac
nope .. nafig do not! Well, so indulge sometimes when there is a mood and time.
I’ll have a "byaku byakova" jogging in the morning.





Quote: win-tat
professional receptors to recognize all this, so I grind the purchased roasted beans on a manual coffee grinder, I can't stand anything, I brew in Beko and enjoy.
here I will be the same! it just suits me!
SoNika
Everyone chooses for himself and for himself we also use different perfumes ...
Mirabel
Quote: SoNika
Everyone chooses for himself and for himself
Yes Yes! exactly!
julia_bb
Quote: Mirabel

as it is very categorical however ... Many local friends-friends drink and do not bother and we in the morning before work-study too, and everything seems to be not bad.
Vika, and rightly so! Good capsules contain good and natural coffee, still sealed, therefore it retains its aroma. Some "flavors" also include instant coffee. They are just more expensive than buying grains.
At the link below, a friend is very popular about the capsule tells
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And so I agree, everyone chooses according to their taste and possibilities, but it is always interesting to try and learn something new
Svetlenki
julia_bb, Yulchik, you studied, right? I've also looked in their direction in case of a fully working family. All the same, in the morning you need to do a lot of things and there is not much time.
julia_bb
Svetlenki, Svetik, I would definitely consider, studied the issue, read the link above.
If there was a place, I would have bought a capsule one to try it at home, but the machine will be enough for now) I bought a carob one, made coffee a couple of times and removed it, it's worth it. And the hand itself reaches for the machine)
At work, Nespresso had very decent coffee, bought several classic flavors.Our Italian founder drank it with pleasure
They have the largest selection of flavors, by the way: 26 types of capsules, including 6 - decaf. Moreover, 21 of them are classic espressos, plus 5 are lungo.
Mirabel
well, everything ... finally calmed down! Friends are going home to Armenia in the summer and promised to bring Urartu or whatever it is ... but they asked to clarify what exactly I needed and by the way asked, why do you need it? buy naspresso and drink delicious coffee!
haaa ... I have Nespresso and I have Arcelik, I want to grind my own coffee!
well, girls and boys! what are the good mills in Armenia?




Quote: Svetlenki
... All the same, in the morning you need to do a lot of things and not a lot of time
well of course! when there is still time to fry something, and grind!





Quote: julia_bb
but it's always interesting to try something new and learn
well of course!
but I have something to eat and Dolce is thick for a change, so to speak ... This is if you need to skip a cup of coffee in the afternoon or evening

Quote: julia_bb
the Italian drank it with pleasure
so I also know that the Itals respect him, and they seem to know a lot about coffee




Yulia, Yulechka! Thank you for the article. went to study what smart people are doing!
gawala
Quote: Mirabel
somehow very categorical however
Vic, that's me. Although in fairness, the very two capsules are worth it. But after that, ka bought a roaster ... This is heaven and earth. It is even incorrect to compare. But yes, we also have many friends who drink such coffee and don't bother.
SoNika
Quote: Mirabel
well of course! when there is still time to fry something, and grind!
I repeat that I do not fry, I buy fried. And I drink from the mood, brewed in something ... When there is no time, I fall asleep with CM and that's it, I get a cup of hot delicious coffee, at the dacha I brew more often in an old drip, ground coffee, also a matter of a few minutes and movements, and in both cases, neither what you don't need to follow, just take good coffee, but I like the funnel more. But this is my choice, I do not consider it possible to condemn and impose categorically my choice, we all like and need different things. Some people care about quality. but for someone the process or lack thereof Have a nice day everyone and delicious coffee
win-tat
Quote: SoNika
Some people care about quality. and for someone the process or lack thereof
Lack of process does not mean loss of quality, because
Quote: SoNika
we all like and need different things.
julia_bb
A very interesting video about coffee, about its tastes and much more. Topic: 10 Silly Barista Questions

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Mirabel
I think that the topic of what is quality and process, as well as what to throw away and buy and which coffee is the most delicious and correct in the end can be considered closed
But ... I would like to clarify which manual coffee grinders from Armenia are considered to be of high quality, because a friend flies to Yerevan in the summer. He himself does not bother with roasting, he does not know the details of grinding and nuances.
pawllena
Best grinder in Urartu, but expensive.
Mirabel
Lena, and in Armenia too? how much does it cost?
pawllena
I don’t know how much it costs in Armenia, but in the online store they bought it as a gift for 12 thousand rubles.
Mirabel
Lena, AAA ... well it doesn't count .. of course. in Russia will cost more.

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