Stone (plate) for baking bread

Yes, I really, really want to persuade myself, but it sits in me that there should be an inscription like "For food"! And in St. Petersburg one day I caught myself thinking that at this address (from the site "Informal Attractions") there is a pottery workshop ... Well, I imagined in time how I would be carrying this pebble into my Rostov in my purse!

There was also a lot of debate about the suitability of the pallet. But they decided that since he was from a terrorist attack, then there is not much difference whether there is an inscription about food products or not.
And to carry a stone from somewhere, as it were, is not difficult (for me, too, the master drove it from another city by bus just in a strong bag wrapped with adhesive tape), but you can still kick it. It will be a shame.

[Vilapo,]

Vilapo, tell me what this brick looks like? I am in Ukraine now. The epicenter is right next to me, what if I need it too ?!

This is not a brick, but a square tile size 30x30, called clinker, made in Poland or Germany. In my Epicenter, it is sold on the street. The steps are lined with this tile

Yes, yes tiles. I wrote it wrong.
Is it heavy? Can I drag her away? (although that we women can not .. If we need it and if "pinned")
How much does it cost?

No, not heavy only 2.0 kg weighed its weight, but one such tile costs only 12 UAH.

Eh, it's a pity the child is asleep, otherwise I would have rushed after him right now.
And one last question, so to speak. How to process it before baking bread?

Just wash with water without detergents, then place it on the wire rack in the oven and turn it on to heat the stone. I have a stone in the oven all the time, now everything is baked only on it

And the fact that in the baking sheet (for example, potatoes with meat) do you also put on a hot stone?

In a slow cooker, and if I bake something, then I put the baking sheet directly on the stone

Then, pliz, poke your nose where you found such. I didn’t find anything in the search engine.

Well, I'm not special either. stones. Feather - a tray for a large flower pot. I just looked into the flower shop, it was lying there. This is 50 UAH. True, he, as it turned out at home, was a bit glued (apparently, a piece of clay fell off and was glued. So I did not notice right away, but in the oven the glue melted and it became visible. My husband cleaned it to clay, but I did not dare to bake on it directly So I bought a pizza dish 34 cm in diameter made of red clay. By the way, it was written that their dishes were fired and in it and on it you can bake in the oven. This dish, however, is 5 mm thick, so I I put it on top of the first pallet, now the total thickness is about 1.5 cm. I bought such a dish for my mother too, she baked on it in an electric oven.

Mona1, thank you! Now it is clear in which direction to look.

If you suddenly decide to buy clinker tiles, then look for them to be unglazed and not painted. Or any flat ceramics can be used, only without glaze, and so that it was made with firing, otherwise it can crack.

Tanechka, but it looks somehow clear whether there is firing or not? And then all my ceramics are glazed, and I can't imagine how the tiles look without firing.

Tanechka, but it looks somehow clear whether there is firing or not? And then all my ceramics are glazed, and I can't imagine how the tiles look like without firing.

That I do not know, just if there is a mention of what can be used in the oven, then it was burnt. On the site where I took the dish, it says that all their dishes were fired, even with milk firing. This is when a clay, still raw sample, is dipped in milk and then fired like that. This is the kind of dish I saw, there seemed to be dark specks on it, this is when after dipping a drop of milk with a cloth and baked, in place of the droplets - specks of steel. Such dishes are more expensive, but in appearance I do not like this at all. But a simple firing, how to recognize whether it was or not, I do not know.

You know, well, what threatens you if it is without firing,

girls, what are you doing
clinker tiles are fired at a temperature of 1300 C approximately - how can such tiles be possible without firing?

"The clinker is made from special clay and fired at very high temperatures, up to 1300 ° C. Firing of clinker, which is carried out in tunnel kilns, plays a decisive role in the entire technological process of its production, thanks to which this material acquires its specific characteristics. The quality of the clay from which the clinker is made is also paramount. It must be refractory, plastic, free of salts and chalk. Immediately before firing, the prepared material is extruded, vacuum pressed, molded and dried.

In general, the whole process of clinker production is as follows. High-quality clay raw materials are initially processed and formed into blanks. When it is necessary to enrich the texture of the clinker, the surface of the workpiece is processed with sand or coal sediments. Then the blank material is dried in drying ovens at low temperatures from 160 to 180 ° C, and only then the clinker is fired at high temperatures.

An important fact is that clinker is an environmentally friendly material, thanks to which a natural microclimate is always maintained in the room. The composition of the clinker is optimal, both in terms of construction and in terms of health benefits."

I really want to bake hearth bread, but my oven is not important, the pastries are always pale, while I bake rye bread in a bread maker and I want wheat, round. I looked for a stone on the Internet, it turns out to be expensive to buy, but I need 2 pieces. , I think one from below, the other thinner from the top, you get a mini oven. I read your topic a little. I had such an idea to make this stone myself, maybe it will come in handy for someone. As a child, I studied at an art school and we had sculpture lessons, worked with clay in class and also made papier mache. What is my point, we take a low baking sheet from the oven, line it with cling film, there is chamotte clay for sale in the store, everything for 20 kg ovens. 220 RUB or you collect to buy fireclay clay there is also refractory ceramic clay, dilute the clay, the mass should be like butter, put it on a baking sheet 1.5 cm, smooth it and let it dry for 2 - 3 weeks, when drying it will decrease slightly in size. Carefully turn over, remove the film and dry in the oven, first at a low temperature, then at a higher temperature, the more we bake, the stronger the stone will be. If everything works out and it works out, I definitely have an idea to make a semicircular insert separate in the oven on this stone from the top like a basin, and you will get a mini stove. In German stores, I looked at rattan baskets, which are also expensive and cheaper, the same baskets are only made of thick paper that are lined in the inside with a cotton towel when spreading bread, such paper baskets can be made by yourself, this is called papier mache, it is done very simply (look on the internet) and they will cost you free ... And about the spatula, I bought a bamboo cutting board 28 by 38 cm and 1 cm in the Uuterra store.Thickness, very light and beautiful, costs 300 rubles, I drew a pen and it turns out a board 28 by 29 cm and a 9 cm pen. cut and make a bevel at the end of the board so that the dough comes off softer. Maybe my advice will be useful to someone, the main thing is not dorgo and it is interesting to do it yourself.

Interesting ideas, maybe that will work out for you. I'm just not sure about two things. The first is clay. Those stones that are for baking, as well as the tiles that we use instead or ceramic dishes, all this is pre-fired in ovens at 1000 degrees and above, so as not to crack later during operation. The clay is then sintered into a very solid monolith. And if you want to bake clay in the oven, then it is not baked there, but simply dried, because the oven, well, can give a maximum of 300 degrees. But if it's just for the sake of experiment and it's interesting to do it yourself, then try it, take care of this pebble, then tell me how it is, worthwhile or not.
And the second, about papier-mâché. There, glue of some kind is used to hold pieces of paper or cardboard together. Even if you cover it with a towel (by the way, you will have to wash it later), then it is better not to put wet warm dough there. Those that are on sale, probably for ready-made cold bread, are laid under it with a towel. Then he shook off the crumbs - and again it is as good as new. By the way, I read that mercury is involved in the technological process of making cardboard. I don't know the intricacies of this, but there is such a thing.
Do not be offended, maybe I'm just an old prude, I just took it and criticized it. And so, of course, what you have done with your own hands always warms you more than what you buy.

Girls who has a pizza stone like this? How is it used? From the description can be used for baking bread. Withstands up to 300 degrees. Share your opinion.

Mona 1 I accept your criticism and do not take offense. Why did I come to this idea, the finished stone does not suit me at the price, in Russia the cheapest one that I found costs 3 thousand and its thickness is 3 cm.This is a lot, I do not like the round one I want to bake baguettes, and the rest prices are 5-6 thousand ... it is expensive for me and I need 2 pcs. and for 12 thousand I would rather buy a hand mill for myself than a stone. In any town there is thin. school they have muffle furnaces for firing clay, ask the teacher well, I'll pay, for example, 500 rubles, but from a bag of 20 kg for 220 rubles. I myself can make at least a rectangular even round, but such a size that I need and the thickness I need. As for papier mache, we used klem flour (flour + water) and unpainted paper. I didn’t bake hearth bread while I’m learning from others, I saw paper baskets for dough in the post “Wheat bread with thick leaven, take a look.

Olesya how to work with clay look in the internet (as with dough), there is nothing complicated there. This is not such a lot of money, you can try it.

I liked this option:, but in Germany, both want and inject.

[Bread baking set "Le Secrets D'Emile"]

If possible, ozone has such ceramics for baking bread in the oven

Bread baking set "Le Secrets D'Emile" https: // www.



From the manufacturer
The set "Le Secrets D'Emile" includes: a ceramic baking dish of red color, a baking spatula, a book of recipes in English, French.
The set is intended for baking bread at home. A bell-top lid gives the same result as a traditional bread oven. This lid allows you to maintain constant humidity during cooking, the bread is fluffy, soft and crispy. The ribbed surface of the base makes it easy to remove the bread from the mold.
Suitable for oven and microwave oven (heating temperature up to 250 ° C). Can be washed by hand or dishwasher.

Specifications:
Material: glazed ceramics.
Color: red.
Mold base diameter: 28.5 cm.
Base width including handles: 33.5 cm.
Mold height with lid: 17 cm.
Baking spatula size: 7 cm x 2.5 cm x 1 cm.
Packing size: 29 cm x 29 cm x 19 cm.

Pizza dish "BBQ" https: // www.



From the manufacturer
The pizza dish "BBQ" is made of olive-colored glazed ceramics.
Ideal for preparing, slicing and serving pizza. The dish can be cooked in the oven, microwave or on the barbecue grill.The heat-resistant properties of refractory ceramics provide a crispy pizza crust.

Features of the BBQ pizza dish:

- heating temperature can reach 500 ° С,
- the ceramic is covered with a very durable glaze that is resistant to the use of sharp instruments,
- the dishes can be easily washed by hand or in the dishwasher,
- BBQ ceramics is a gentle and natural preparation of food without additional fat, thus preserving nutrients and vitamins.

With this dish you can prepare and serve hot pizza for 4 servings.
Material: glazed ceramics.
Color: olive.
Dish diameter: 30 cm.
Dish width including handles: 36 cm.
Dish wall height: 1 cm.
Packing size: 33 cm x 33 cm x 5 cm.

[not glazed inside]

Girls, about the clay tray ...
I have ceramic bowls, but not glazed inside... When proving the dough in such a bowl, I discovered that the inner surface of the bowl absorbs the liquid from the bread dough, the dough becomes drier.
The same can be with ordinary clay, a tray for flowers, for example. This means that when baking, it is advisable to put a rug, paper on the pallet to avoid contact with unglazed clay.

Or am I wrong? Who else noticed such properties of pallets?

[Tatiana (Admin)]

Set for baking bread "Le Secrets D'Emile
Specifications:
Material: glazed ceramics.
Pizza dish "BBQ
Material: glazed ceramics.

Tatiana (Admin), dlittle girls If the above-described items are made of glazed ceramics, why shouldn't glazed tiles be used?

[Tatiana (Admin)]

Tatiana (Admin), dlittle girls If the above-described items are made of glazed ceramics, why shouldn't glazed tiles be used?

Maybe because the ceramics are designed for the following conditions:
- heating temperature can reach 500 ° С,
- ceramics covered with a very durable glaze that is resistant to sharp instruments

[Tatiana (Admin)]

Tatiana (Admin), dlittle girls If the above-described items are made of glazed ceramics, why shouldn't glazed tiles be used?

I don’t have an answer to this question. I don’t even know where this infa came from.
I use a porous stove for baking pizza (a spare part from the microwave left), but I put the dough on it on a thin baking sheet (no paper).

Now I bought a ceramic set (see above, red with a dome), I will tell you how it will behave.The instructions say that this set is made specifically for baking bread in the oven, which means the French know what they are doing by offering glaze on ceramics

In any case, a stewpan made of such red clay has already been tested by me, nothing happened to it, it keeps heat very well, even with the most minimal heating

[Vilapo]

Maybe because the ceramics are designed for the following conditions:
- heating temperature can reach 500 ° С,
- ceramics covered with a very durable glaze that is resistant to sharp instruments

Vilapo but we don't need such a temperature, a maximum of 250, and you can't scratch bread. I think it's a matter of the composition of the material and its use with food. Maybe I am wrong?

[Vilapo]

Vilapo but we don't need such a temperature, a maximum of 250, and you can't scratch bread. I think it's a matter of the composition of the material and its use with food. Maybe I am wrong?

I also preheat the oven to 230-240 * C - more is not required.

You will need to deal with this issue and joke on the internet about ceramics for baking in the oven

[Tatyana]

Tatyana what do you think about it



Pizza stone
Material: Ceramic
Resistant to temperatures up to 300 ° C

Well, if a pizza stove has a high heating temperature - why can't it be used for bread as well?
I think it's ok

I use specials. pizza plate (square) for many years, normal flight! Warming up to 230-240 * C is normal, I have not tried it anymore, this kind of warm-up is enough for me, but I think 250 * C will easily withstand

For a long time I was looking for a pallet with a dome, that's why I bought a "set for bread" red

[Thank you]

Tanya, with a pallet you are Beautiful. And I was looking for tiles in the city, but no. Maybe there is in the construction markets Now I have adapted in a cast-iron pan.

Thank you!

A frying pan is also a way out, heats well

Just read the topic from the very beginning, not all building tiles are suitable for the oven, and perceives high temperatures - harmful impurities for health can be released

Maybe the bowl needs to be soaked in water. After all, this is recommended for clay pots so that they do not take moisture from food.

Alla, this apparently depends on the quality of a particular ceramics, because they are different in composition and manufacture.
I stopped using it. Costs like decoration for big money
And I also bought a beautiful ceramic jar for storing food - I poured sour cream there, so the jar "sucked" all the liquid from the sour cream in a few days and it turned out to be a cool mass squeezed out, as it now decorates my interior on the balcony through a sieve

I liked this option:, but in Germany, both want and inject.

Here's a link 🔗
Here is the joint venture: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=306868.new#new

[Tatyana]

the jar "sucked" all the liquid in a few days

Tatyana Maybe this is the answer. Use glazed ceramics

[Tatyana]

Tatyana Maybe this is the answer. Use glazed ceramics

Maybe I think so too

I bought in Uuterra a ceramic dish for baking in the oven with a diameter of 31 cm and sides of a small 2.5 cm, glaze inside, if you turn the bottom without glaze and you can bake bread on it, as an inexpensive option is still suitable. I haven't baked the bread yet and the chicken and potatoes turned out great.

Larissa, but you don't have to turn it over, otherwise the diameter in the inverted form will be slightly smaller. Then write how the bread turned out.

I bought in Uuterra a ceramic dish for baking in the oven with a diameter of 31 cm and sides of a small 2.5 cm, glaze inside, if you turn the bottom without glaze and you can bake bread on it, as an inexpensive option is still suitable. I haven't baked the bread yet and the chicken and potatoes turned out great.

I have a Uuterr shape, only square, for over a year now. I bake great bread on this inverted form. And bread, and tortillas, and pizza (sometimes even in a pizza pan, and not on a pile). Everything is baked. As Tatyana wrote above, since there is no glaze at the bottom, I put either parchment or a fiberglass rug so that I do not absorb excess moisture underneath. Well, for the sake of purity.
I have this:

What are the sizes?

Top 31x31 cm.Bottom 28x28 cm.

Good evening! Girls, I understand that the question may be stupid, but I'm interested ... (since the oven bakes disgustingly, I want to somehow try to fix the situation) clinker tiles are placed only on the lower level (grate) or on two grates and on up and down ??

Even if only the bottom will be, and then there will already be a class. This is basically the case for everyone. If both there and there, then just between them, perhaps, there will be little space left for raising bread, for example. You just try at the bottom, if anything, you will block the top too. True, I have not a tile, but a clay tray and on it there is also a pizza dish, such a sweet couple. And above - there is nothing. But in terms of roastiness, both the bottom and the top are the same now. And before, the bottom was burnt, but the top of the products was frighteningly pale. So the rock just below solved the problem.

I have clinker tiles as follows:
- at the very bottom of the oven (iron above the gas burner) - 2 tiles cover this bottom, i.e. cut to size symmetrically taking into account the gaps around for air circulation
- and on the grating itself - also in the shape of the grating, taking into account the gaps around

And to also adapt from above - there is simply no room, since I bake at an average level.

Girls, remind which manufacturer of your clinker tiles? I accidentally got into a conversation with my patient, a salesman in the "Tiled World", promised to help. Yes, and they, it turns out, have, but I don't know which one.

Can this tile be used for baking bread and more?

[pan for pancakes]

You can also adapt instead of a stone, pan for pancakes 26-30 cm in diameter, with a thick bottom and cast iron - about the same



But, so that the sides are very low and the handle is small or removable, so that the whole structure can climb into the oven without problems.

It will be great to keep warm

Interesting idea, Admin, Tatiana But should the handle be removable? And mine is not removable.

[Marina]

Girls, remind which manufacturer of your clinker tiles? I accidentally got into a conversation with my patient, a salesman in the "Tiled World", promised to help. Yes, and they, it turns out, have, but I don't know which one.

Marina manufacturer Poland, Paradiz series is called Natural Rosa, on the boxes is the clinker

Interesting idea, Admin, Tatiana But should the handle be removable? And mine is not removable.

Not necessarily removable, it is important that it climbs into the oven with the pan But the bottom needs a thick one!

Not necessarily removable, it is important that it climbs into the oven with the pan But the bottom needs a thick one!

I have a cast iron pan for pancakes with a thick bottom

I also played with a rare cast-iron frying pan from my mother-in-law's "bins". But it is too small. I found her somewhere in the basement, her husband "burned" soot in the stove in the country. This is how she looked in the oven.

And here is the bread from it. I don't remember which one.

I already wrote, I have a stone, a potter I know made it. But I ruined it: I sprinkled it on the bread in the oven when the stone was already hot and it cracked slightly. While holding on, but how long will it last, HZ?

I already wrote, I have a stone, a potter I know made it. But I ruined it: I sprinkled it on the bread in the oven when the stone was already hot and it cracked slightly. While holding on, but how long will it last, HZ?

Marin, that's unlucky! And my nitsche is so, although I sprinkle bread abundantly laid on a hot stone. Maybe your friend a potter did not burn it at more than 1000 degrees. Maybe he does not have such a technical capability, he dried it out and that's it. Is that why it happened?

Is that why it happened?

Who knows him? It seems that the uncle tried, he sculpts all sorts of small things. And here, so to speak, there was a test of the pen, for the first time he sculpted such a product.

Girls, I just want to say that I have not read the topic. I saw it at E5. ru here is such a set-book with pizza recipes and a baking stone, diameter 23 cm, plus a stand. Is it a necessary thing and how expensive is it for the price or not?

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Girls, I just want to say that I have not read the topic. I saw it at E5. ru here is such a set-book with pizza recipes and a baking stone, diameter 23 cm, plus a stand. Is it a necessary thing and how expensive is it for the price or not?

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I haven't been looking for a baking stone for a long time, but when I looked through it, I couldn't find anything cheaper than 5000r. If this stone is good, then the price
Admin, is this stone good for baking bread?

Admin, is this stone good for baking bread?

Well, after all, pizza is baked on a stone and under a strong fire / heating of 230-250 * C, which means this stone is able to heat up and keep high heat.
What's the difference: baking pizza or bread? We need the stone itself, for the high temperature. We put pans and tiles for baking
You can try to buy, the price is reasonable.

Sorry there is no delivery to us I would order

Found on Ozone. Try to order there, you can order from them by parcel to the address, by mail.
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And here 🔗 for this price you can buy two stones

In a whisper, I ordered a stone like this American Metalcraft Ceramic Pizza Baking Stone - 15 "x 12" Rectangular costs 607 rubles. size 38 cm.X 30.5 cm weight 2.5 kg. and there is a stone measuring 38 x 35 cm costs 708 rubles., written for bread, pizza, buns, biscuits, withstands temperatures of 500 degrees, if ordered separately then delivery will be expensive and if you order more goods, or rather more kilograms, then delivery is cheaper. We have collected the necessary purchases, ordered an autoclave and my sister, my husband says to himself the tools well, let's order a stone at the same time, but I would not order it separately, so collect the necessary purchases. Girls, pay attention to a very necessary thing, you can also order this pressure cooker for yourself - the Presto Pressure canner autoclave for 23 liters. this is a mini cannery, you can make your own carcass any meat, fish in your own juice, mushrooms, beans, green peas, vegetables and fruits, it even says candy, it weighs 5 kg. it fits 14 pieces. cans of 0.5 l., 12 pcs. 0.7 l each. ours write that the meat of domestic chickens, and usually it is very tough, no matter how much you cook in an autoclave, it turns out tender and they are soft edible bones. Everything is put in the cans raw, the lids are twisted and the cans are sterilized, you do not need to just wash them everything is cooked under pressure, meat for 30-60 minutes, fish for 20-30 minutes, vegetables for 10-15 minutes. There you only need to order an additional second circle for the second row of cans. I certainly wrote this off topic, but I really wanted to share this information with you.

I read it in my cookbook yesterday - in order for the oven to evenly heat up, put a tray or baking sheet with fine river sand with a layer of 1 cm downwards.And you can probably pour a layer of small pebbles that are sold for the aquarium and put baking paper on top.

But aquarium sea pebbles should not be put over, as well as sea salt should be poured (I bought it once in a pharmacy for baths). Such shooting began when heated in the oven, the khan thought to the glass in the door. It can be seen that there are some gases inside or water is trapped in pieces inside, I did not understand, but when heated it burst out and shot like popcorn. For the same reason, sea pebbles and pebbles are not recommended. But, however, I haven't tried it with stones and pebbles. And if you adapt the salt, then not sea salt, but coarse ordinary. But I did this, poured it on a baking sheet in a layer of 2 cm and put it on the bottom, I did not notice much of the effect. But when I put in the clay tray for the flower pot instead of salt, everything returned to normal at once.
I can't say anything about river sand and pebbles, I only read about the fact that the sea is not allowed. But there is no need for granite chips and stones, because granites radiate radioactively. My husband once brought home a dosimeter and we decided to measure the background radiation at our house. So, when approaching the walls, the clicks of the device became more frequent than when measuring in other places. This is because the house is a panel house, that is, the walls are iron-concrete, where granite chips are mixed with concrete, and this is how the reinforcement is poured. Moreover, everyone was so unlucky, probably, who has such houses. Because they measured in several other apartments and houses of this type - the same garbage. That's when I regretted that we didn't have a brick house. And to sleep so that the bed is along the wall, I would never agree, we have all the beds - butt to the walls, so that less negative gets in.
When heated in the oven, this vibroacoustic treatment is intensified many times over. In general, I read that sedimentary rocks are relatively safe in this regard.