Bast1nda
Masinen, Tanuhka, the meter under the Rioba brand is whipped even steeper, there is a lot of protein. For cappuccino I take only it and for a long time already. But Arov is not bad either, but Ryoba is better. Ideally, a large protein is a low fat and everything is whipped ok.
Foam test a spoonful of sugar - for at least a minute, the foam should hold it.
Tanuhka
Bast1nda, it's a pity I didn't read it before, I just came from the metro, I had to buy more rioba.
Bast1nda
Tanuhka, in your photo above, the foam does not go in comparison with Ryobovskaya, there is a PENISHCHE, dense, finely bubbly, almost homogeneous. But I beat either with a pannarello attachment or in a jug.
I'll try to beat the ryoba with a hand beater, as in your photo, there is also one.
In Panarello, you need a manual skill, a jug of a coffee machine is fully automatic. For a jug, rioba is very simple, it's about the amount of protein, the more there is, the easier it is to get foam. (I am a longtime coffee maniac, hence the skills in cappuccino froth, all the stages of frothing milk went through the coffee forum + the barista on the ship taught how to do it correctly). The main thing is not to overheat, to stop during.
Whoever has a coffee machine with a jug or an espresso coffee maker with a Pannarello nozzle, I don't see any reason to bother with a separate device at all, I perfectly use these built into the machine.
Masinen
It whips better for me. Che is not very foam in the photo at all.
dopleta
Tanuhka, I had several similar ones. This is just a child's toy compared to a stationary cappuccino maker.
Tanuhka
Bast1nda, I am also a coffee maker)), we have a Jura coffee machine with a foam nozzle, well, I just can't make foam, milk flies in different directions, + children, they need a Cappuccinator for cocoa, well, for different experiments))) and in general, I do not allow them to the coffee machine, this is my love, I can not live without coffee.
Ira Doka
Quote: Bast1nda
the matter is in the amount of protein, the more it is, the easier it is to get foam. (
No matter how much I looked at the composition of milk, the composition of fat is different, and the protein is invariably 3.0 everywhere. Perhaps you have others
compositions
Tanuhka
I waited for a cappuccinator)), vitek, yes, the foam is dense, cannot be compared with the foam from a hand mixer. The aro milk was perfectly beaten and hot chocolate, but the cocoa nesquik could not be beaten, not a single bubble at all (((. By the way, there is no rioba milk in our Sevastopol metro station (((
Oh, you need to get out of here quickly, before you have infected with something
Ira Doka
Tanuhka, I make cocoa from the usual packaging. Golden label, add sugar, milk and a bit of vanilla. It turns out with foam. And the open spaces of the bread machine are really dangerous to visit, you will always run into some virus, then the Wishlist turns on, and even if you break your forehead until you buy it, you can't cure it with anything
Tanuhka
Ira Doka, Irin, I will burst now from the tasting))) the golden label also did not whip. Well, compared to hot chocolate, this one turned into a dense foam, right in a souffle.
Ira Doka
Well, if you try everything in one day and more than once, you can discourage the hunt for a long time.
And I get cocoa just a drink with a layer of foam in one centimeter and beat it with a nozzle without a spring, but I don't expect a soufflé from it.
Taia
Something faded out.
Nowhere do I find reviews of such cappuccinatorers, two models appeared on our sale:
Amica FD2011

Milk frother


And like this:
Sencor SMF 2020 WH

Milk frother



Perhaps someone here will leave their feedback about them, I hope.

I read the whole topic conscientiously, but as usual - a mess in my head from all the writing.
Tell me, what parameters should I look at at least?
Or even look for other models?
Igrig
Quote: Taia

Something faded out.
Taking into account the place of your residence, it is difficult to advise - availability, price ratio and so on.
But ... I definitely vote for Melitta Cremio... The thing is both beautiful and absolutely functional!
And although I practically don't drink coffee, sometimes I spoil myself with cappuccino. I definitely recommend it!
Belka13
And with me he makes a thick foam every other time. And with the same milk. What is the reason, I do not understand.
Igrig
Quote: Belka13

And with me he makes a thick foam every other time. And with the same milk. What is the reason, I do not understand.
As the ancients said: The truth is in wine! Rather in milk!
It means that your dairy works with milk in this way, most likely the quality is out of the question. The main thing is that the protein should be at least 3%, although 2.8% also makes an excellent foam. You understand that you can write anything you want, but you cannot really check what percentage of protein is in milk, neither I nor you.
Taia
Quote: Igrig
Taking into account the place of your residence, it is difficult to advise - availability, price ratio and so on.
But ... I definitely vote for Melitta Cremio. The thing is both beautiful and absolutely functional!

Thanks for the advice.
I know about Melitta. But alas, we do not have these on sale.
And I wrote that we are selling only these two models. Of these, two must be chosen. Or even push the idea aside ...
Belka13
Igrig, our milk is rural, and from the same cow. And with a mixer I can beat it, but the frother does not master. Store-bought milk, on the other hand, usually whips perfectly.
Mirabel
Olga, I noticed that the amount of milk poured is very important. A little deviation to the side and no foam.
And in Melitta and in the aerochinator to the coffee machine.
Belka13
Vika, perhaps you `re right. But I only make foam for myself, so the amount of milk is usually the same.
nadusha
Girls, I watched the video about Tanyulya's milk frother. Of course I would like to buy Lenardika, but suddenly I will not find it. Found ourson, can anyone use it? Does such a foam turn out there as good as Tanyulia in Leonardica and is it possible to cook cocoa in ourson?
GruSha
Girls, how do you cook cocoa in Orson? Is there like one foam nozzle only?
gawala
Quote: GruSha
Is there like one foam nozzle only?
And it makes no difference. What is, and crawl. There is a froth-hot-cold mode, there is a cocoa mode (hot water) .. Pour milk, sugar, cocoa, turn on the cocoa-hot water mode and that's it .. The principle is the same for all divers ..
GruSha
Galina, Thanks for answering. Sister Orson has it. She did not know that cocoa can be cooked. I ordered another one for myself. I'll take it next week


Added Sunday 02 Oct 2016 10:33 AM

There is a milk heating mode. On this mode? And the milk is cold, right?
Svetlana777
I read everything, God, how many interesting things I learned, but I came in purely by accident. I love cappuccino, I had a cappuccino maker at home, it wasn’t always possible to froth milk (and only thanks to your topic I found out why ..... because I ran into this problem in another already normal coffee machine. Now I will know what to look for when buying Now I have Phillips, he makes cappuccino superbly .... but as I understood the cappuccino maker is an interesting thing. (necessary ... I have had a manual one with batteries since the last century, well, a toy (but it works). behold Milk frother After reading, I dared to test it, I found an old little press (I squeezed a new bigger one) and .... it turned out, I was in shock, next to tea and foam from the press, the main thing was that it was plump. So I want to say Thank you so much (((I will buy for the summer, it will come in handy in the village
gawala
Quote: GruSha
There is a milk heating mode. On this mode? And the milk is cold, right?
Sorry, I didn't see ..
Milk heating mode is the same as boiling cocoa and heating water and milk .. That is, heating goes up to 70 degrees ... I measured it on mine ..
Wildebeest
Svetlana777, Svetik, on HP you will open another 500 Americas and invent a bunch of bicycles. Not a website, but a storehouse of culinary sciences, tips and discoveries.
Nira
Quote: Svetlana777
next to tea and foam from the press, the main thing is so plump it turned out

And if you heat the foam in a microwave after beating for ~ 20-30 seconds, it will be even denser. And then add coffee to it ... I think. For cappuccino it is the most.
Svetlana777
Quote: Nira
And if you warm up the foam in a microwave after beating ~ 20-30 seconds, it will be even denser.
thank you, I will try


Added on Friday 04 Nov 2016 10:20 PM

Quote: Wildebeest

Svetlana777, Svetik, on HP you will open another 500 Americas and invent a bunch of bicycles. Not a website, but a storehouse of culinary sciences, tips and discoveries.
I already have a fainting state from everything ... I just can't debug it from my computer .... well, if I buy a current device that is vital ... I've been sitting for a month reading, reading ... I certainly put everything that I need incredibly necessary to a bunch of bookmarks, I opened more to read and read
Igrig
Quote: Nira


And if you heat the foam in a microwave after beating ~ 20-30 seconds, it will be even denser. And then add coffee to it ... I think. For cappuccino it is the most.
You will then get a latte macchiato, when making cappuccino, milk with froth is added to the coffee, and not vice versa.
I have Melitta Cremio, the foam is very dense, it lasts a very long time, by and large depends on milk.
To be honest, I have never tried to warm up in microwave ovens. I ought to try, suddenly I like it even more!
julia_bb
Basically I like to drive teas, but sometimes I want to pamper myself with cappuccino. So I also recently found out (on YouTube I saw) that the French press makes a wonderful foam
Taia
This topic started in 2008. And already on the first pages, they described the preparation of foam in a French press. And then this topic was repeatedly discussed here. You don't even need to go to YouTube.
Svetlana777
Quote: Igrig
when making cappuccino, frothed milk is added to the coffee,
strange, but my coffee machine first makes milk froth, and then pours coffee (the froth still comes out on top ... and the cappuccino is written on the preparation button.
Anchic
It seems to me that the main difference between cappuccino and latte is the more milk in the latte. Cappuccino is coffee with milk froth after all. And latte, rather, milk froth with coffee. The strength of the latte is much lower. Latte is a coffee drink and cappuccino is coffee.
Igrig
Quote: Anchic

It seems to me that the main difference between cappuccino and latte is the more milk in the latte. Cappuccino is coffee with milk froth after all. And latte, rather, milk froth with coffee. The strength of the latte is much lower. Latte is a coffee drink and cappuccino is coffee.
Keep it simple, both of these drinks are coffee, just a slightly different kind. Just like tea: black, green, oolong, with milk and so on. This is tea.
The difference between cappuccino and macchiato:
- there is more froth in a cappuccino than milk; vice versa in macchiato;
- macchiato: coffee is poured into milk with froth and it is assumed that layers milk and coffee. In cappuccino, frothed milk is poured into the coffee without layers. Something like this.
Nastasya
Greetings to all.
Are there any lucky owners of Delonghi EMF2 Milk Frother?
Are you satisfied with the operation of this device?
Marihuna
I can't help but ask a question. I came across a Gastroback Latte Art Advanced silber foamer (on the well-known Computer Universe). So here he is, a 1 in 1 frother Bork B600, which is now being sold at exorbitant prices and which was so praised in the topic about chocolate girls. Who bought the Gastroback? In Germany, it has been presented since 2011-2012. Apparently it was from him that Bork "licked" his creation ...

I choose a milk frother on the above site, I almost stopped at Severin Milchaufschaeumer SM 3582 (I don't need a large amount of foam - I just need 1-2 cups). Who used such a foaming agent? It looks very similar to the Thibo induction foamer, which was also mentioned on this forum.
Igrig
Marihuna,
Are you not satisfied with Melitta Cremio? It suits me from all sides. From design to functionality. I do not know how much Bork costs, but, for sure, many times more. There are several color options. Foams remarkably.
Marihuna
Melitta Cremio might have arranged it, but I want the bowl where the milk froths to be easily washed separately in the dishwasher.And in such kind of foaming agents, like Melitta, there are electronic components in a jug that cannot be wetted. Although I may be wrong, this is the first impression. And our price is the same as for the devices I am considering in Germany. In Russia, their price is already at least 1/3 higher, which means that in fact they will be more expensive than Melitta (the toad warms the soul).
Now I am considering Severin SM 3582 and I am thinking of taking Jura in the form of a glass instead. Jura is cheaper, the principle is like Melitta's or Leonard's who made a noise on the forum, but the glass is washed separately and the thought that in Moscow its price is almost 5 times higher (!!!))))) The only thing that stops is the reviews on German Amazon - very Jura, they write, slow - the whipping time reaches 6 minutes. I watched the video - who did it - who did it quickly and well, who did not whip milk at all. But on the other hand, she took 1st place in one of the tests of a large German magazine. True, these tests are carried out several times a year and in earlier years, and Gastrobag and Severin also took first places and leading positions. In general, while my package is being assembled - I think. I'll take one thing - either Jura or Severin.
Mirabel
Marihuna, I have Melitta too. Sooo happy with her!
Tag
I have Melitta too. I'm happy too. But this is the second. The first one broke after ten months of intense, almost daily use. Ozone returned the money, since the warranty for them is two years. I bought a second one, the same, but in a different color.
I also wanted to order from Germany when I bought the second one. But I thought, suddenly it will break down again, Ozone even returns money if the warranty period has not expired. How is it there? I dont know...
Marihuna
Girls, things can break. And what was brought from Germany and what was bought here in Russia. I just assume that what is sold here, I can always buy. But it is still more interesting to snatch an unprecedented overseas beast into your closet. The price is not super big - I'll survive somehow if it breaks ... Well, if I'm not mistaken, there is still a guarantee from the store. A small year in my opinion, but there is. Another thing is that I will never get involved with sending goods back to Germany ...
Regarding Ozone ... True, I have not yet encountered breakdowns of the equipment purchased there, but there is always a nuance in my purchases - I always buy for bonus rubles or for points. In the last check, the cost of the electric kettle, taking into account all the discounts, was 1 ruble (there are several goods in the check). The question is, how much will they return to me then? Ruble? Sense to bother?

I looked again at Melitta .... So her price is almost 6 thousand on Ozone !!! The Jura 3400 I looked after costs, but the induction Severin 4500 .... The glass cannot be washed separately ... Well, I don’t know ... Until the hand is raised ... Although in Germany it is also not very expensive. I am studying Amazon ratings now ... There are clear leaders, but for me their volume and size are too large. I keep thinking ...
Igrig
Marihuna
In my opinion, you are overcomplicating everything!
Firstly, the price of Melitta can be found quite easily within 5,000 rubles. Unless, of course, wait for the weather by the sea the implementation of bonuses on Ozone (the devil knows how many other things you have to buy at an overpriced price to buy Melitta for 7 rubles 00 kopecks).
And, secondly, you get the impression that you don't have hot water in your house: except in the dishwasher, it is impossible to wash the frother? In Melitta, the bowl has a non-stick coating, the bowl is washed (not even washed, but wiped and then rinsed) "with a bang" with a sponge and even without Fairy, and it is enough to hold the spring whisk on the lid under running water for 5-7 seconds!
But I respect your choice - after all, it's up to you to decide!
For me, one of the main factors was design (besides functionality). By the way, Melitta has a European design award. But, this is the lyrics. By the way, I practically don't drink coffee, but I savor cappuccino several times a year, but my wife drinks coffee, but not cappuccino.
Marihuna
)))) No, I'm not complicating it.
1. I have already mentioned where I plan to make a purchase (and there, in addition to Melitta, which by the way costs 3300, there are many worthy devices that have been awarded various honorable mentions).
2. I have hot water, but I also have a rather bezolaberny teenage daughter who loves to drink coffee, but does not like to think about how to gently wash the device after using the electrical parts. "Washing in the dishwasher" is a figurative expression that implies bathing the bowl of the frother in water without the danger of spoiling anything.
3.I never overpriced anything on Ozone. On the contrary, I wait for a swing of discounts, analyze the situation on the market and only then decide the issue with the purchase. By the way, Ozone sometimes gives bonuses, and sometimes you have to knock them out as compensation for late delivery. I pay for most of the purchases. Thanks from Sberbank. Ozone is not the best shopping option - it is often more expensive than anywhere else.

I have a question about Melitta. How long does it take to froth milk to stable heated froth? 2-3-4 minutes?
And further. In all the frothers I have considered, you can re-whip the heated milk only or after a cold whipping cycle or after the appliance motor has cooled down. I read the instructions to Bork and Severin and Jura ...
Does it turn out to make foam for a company of 4-5 people one after the other, won't it work? Need to wait a while? I don't really need it, but my daughter may need it ...
Igrig
Marihuna
1. The process of hot foaming takes a little more than a minute, to be honest, I did not detect it, I turn on the foaming, then turn on the automatic coffee machine (I have Saeko Taleo Ring) and the coffee is prepared almost simultaneously with the froth. Can be whipped simultaneously for 2 servings. There are risks inside the bowl.
2. Volume 1 just enough foam to fill a 380 g glass to the top, which already contains 1 cappuccino.
3. Honestly, I don’t remember if the instructions say about the need to cool the device, I’m just too lazy to look. Most likely not ... Otherwise, it would be deposited in the memory. You yourself can find instructions on the net and read. Already read: nothing is said! But they write that it is very important: "Never touch the apparatus with wet or damp hands or kicking"
I hope you will strictly observe this rule !!!
The only thing that matters is: do not let water get on the cover !!!!!! (there is a motor in it) and to the bottom of the "teapot" (the bowl really looks like a small teapot with electrical contacts on the bottom, the "teapot" can be rotated 360 degrees.). The double button is covered with a rubber pad.
You know your daughter much better than me, so it's up to you ...
Cifra
Marihuna, I ordered Severin from the Germans in early January, this week I should arrive. Convenient bowl washing was the main argument. If you are not in a hurry with the purchase, after receiving I will share the results.
Taia
Quote: Cifra
If you are not in a hurry with the purchase, after receiving I will share the results.

Elena, you in any case share your impressions with us. We are grateful!
Cifra
Taya, OK. How I get it, I'll write it then.
Marihuna
Quote: Cifra

Marihuna, I ordered Severin from the Germans in early January, this week I should arrive. If you are not in a hurry with the purchase, after receiving I will share the results.

I would be sooo grateful to you. There are many videos, but they are all contradictory. Although on Amazon it is the top-end manufacturer of milk frothers, judging by the number of reviews. What model did you order?

Today the parcel arrived to me in 11 days. Any small things and ice cream (heavy). For the first time in many years, I did not like how the parcel was packed - from the outside it looks like the box is intact and not deformed, but inside everything is in a deplorable state - wrinkled, deformed. It seems that the box was opened, jumped in it, and then safely sealed it.
The cleaning and maintenance kit for the coffee maker was scattered all over the box and there was an incomplete set. I wrote to them. I look forward to hearing.
Cifra
Quote: Marihuna

Today the parcel arrived to me in 11 days.
I ordered sm 9688. At first I also wanted a small one, but then I decided that a large one is more functional.
It's a pity with the packaging, of course. Mine has been traveling for 13 days so far, but somewhere near me. Tomorrow or the day after tomorrow should be in the department.
Marihuna
I also really like 9688))) Very cool design. I just need black. But how many did not watch the video (and according to this model it is not much on the network) - something, compared to other similar Severins, he whips up the foam worst of all (((Maybe because the volume is large? Everything does not have time to whip?
Well, the dimensions confused him a little - why did they make those stupid curved protrusions at the bottom? It is written 18 cm in diameter. I don't have so much space for a coffee maker. The SM 3582 model is 16 cm in diameter and that is confusing in size (((

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