HelenN
About a year ago I bought Moulinex 5002. I liked everything, only the crust was not very brown. But I decided that it was not a problem. True, she smelled of some kind of machine oil when baking, not only during the first baking, but for two weeks. And some kind of dirt accumulated at the bottom. Less than three months later, she stopped kneading the dough! Imagine my horror - I get up in the morning, it smells like bread, I open the bread maker - and there .... Fried, unmixed mixture of ingredients! That is, it bakes the oven, but it doesn't twist! The guarantee said that both boards flew. I bought it through the Internet in. They said they would change it, only they don't have these right now. I can take the 5004 for a surcharge, or wait 2 weeks and get the same one. I took 5004. With baguettes. It bakes better, the crust is ruddy, the performance is clearly better. What was my frustration when, after 2.5 months, one of the shafts that rotate the stirrers jammed. They played it to me in the guarantee, but it has been spinning tightly since then, and the second one also began to creak. But so far everything worked, although after each baking I diligently turned both stirrers so that they did not get wedged.
Came on January 1, 2009. In the morning my bucket and one shaft just falls out of it! I put it back in - it walks there freely up and down. I got angry and the next day I bought Kenwwod 250. According to my impressions, it is made of much better quality, no cheap plastic - mostly metal, did not stink at all, the bottom is clean, the bread mixer does not get stuck, and most importantly, with the same recipe, white bread it turns out tastier! And the crumb is better, more elastic (flour from the same batch - falconer, milk, water, salt, sugar, yeast - the same). In general, I'm still happy with it - if it doesn't break either.
She again took her Moulinex to the guarantee - and a guy came after me, whose shaft was jammed the same as mine Moulinex5004.
shade
Peace be with you bakers!
Came on January 1, 2009. In the morning my bucket

HelenN happy for you, I woke up only in the evening

one of the shafts just falls out of it!

you know, in principle, this does not affect anything - it is unpleasant, of course, but tolerable and it was not necessary to scroll there in the wild if you noticed there
groove so there was a seal in it that you either erased or
they forgot to put it \ hello to the Chinese \ and maybe when the shaft fell out you lost it
HelenN
No, I didn’t lose it, the shaft didn’t completely fall out, I caught it. It's just that this seal is very bad! Let them fix it, replace it or do something else - I have it under warranty.
larimari
And my Mulya 5004 broke down on the second day, and maybe on the first too. Just trying to make a second bread, she categorically refused to knead the dough. I had to take it to a service center, then wait for more than a month when gears and a belt might be sent from France, do not wait and exchange it for Panasonic-254. And only after that enjoy baking bread in full !!!
shade
Peace be with you bakers!

HelenN will pick up ask why it happened and unsubscribe - people will come in handy
julifera
I have 5002 on one shaft (not in a bucket, but under a bucket) metal is suspiciously combed, as it seems to me - this is a skewer from a bread machine rubs with a bucket skewer and a circle of soot is obtained. And only on the one hand, there is a feeling that it is somehow crooked in some place, I am afraid to climb with the pliers to level it, because I did not quite figure out what is crooked and I am afraid to break something.
I don't know how it will end, it turns and bakes for the second month almost every day, quite regularly and tasty.
shade
Peace be with you bakers!
julifera wait until the hole wipes you are afraid to bring it to the service
otherwise you have to either change the bucket or the bushing fasteners
and you need it
julifera
shade, if everything can end so seriously down to the hole, then today I will activate and explore everything with a flashlight. And you can at least bend it yourself, I won't break it off, if I gradually level it with ducks?
shade
Peace be with you bakers!

julifera do not fool people a person who knows what ducks are unlikely to spoil anything \ although caution will not hurt \
GOOD LUCK TO YOU
SVC2541
Has been baking perfectly for half a year. But under the bucket, the metal was combed and combed from the first day. I ordered a new bucket on an Internet. What kind of guarantee is there if the Tele-Max store ordered to live long because of the crisis in our city. Next time I will buy either Panasonic or BORK.
Seich
Unfortunately, our stove also has a problem with the shafts. I struggle with this good rinsing after baking and turning the bucket upside down while drying. Moreover, one shaft rotates normally from the very beginning. It will not be superfluous to turn the shafts before and after drying.
julifera
While I climbed to watch with a flashlight why the metal was being combed off, my son found a second problem - as a result, one overlapped on the other - and in total gave a bunch of soot and grinded off precious twists from the bucket.

The second problem turned out to be the same as that of Seich - one shaft rotates normally, and the other with great difficulty.
For two months of ecstasy from baking, I did not pay attention to this moment, well, I did not need to turn the rollers of the bucket with my own hands. And my son took it and while I was staring at how they grinded, I immediately determined that one shaft was too tight.

As a result, the flashlight and ducks were not useful at all, it was enough to carefully touch this thing, hold it vertically with your finger on each side, which is in contact with the bucket

My impressions of the Moulinex 5002-5004

and a small defect was found, a notch that sharpened the already tight shaft of the bucket. File in hand and in a second everything became smooth, without roughness.

The second question was solved with the help of an oil can - flip the bucket and slowly add engine oil and scroll.
As soon as I didn’t twist this bucket to stuff oil there, for some reason it still rotated rigidly.
But I thought that the butter probably could not crawl through everywhere and that I needed to put something on the baking, and then check it.
Indeed, after the first baking, the shaft of the bucket spun much easier, and after the second bake it even became better than the first.

Good luck to all!

Vetochka
And mine only worked for 2 days .... (5002) I baked the first bread normally, and the next day, when baking a cake, it broke ... First, the display began to draw strange sticks, and then it completely turned off. There are no reactions to the connection to the network. You will have to take it for examination, and this is 20 days of waiting!
shade
Peace be with you bakers!
julifera
well we are RUSSIAN
and I was very pleased that you know not only about ducks but
and also about the OILER
Mueslik
So I had to check in in this thread
A bucket spun in my Mule, it leaks, when you turn the mixer manually, black water flows from below, the second mixer practically does not spin
Listen, it's a shame, I never even cooked jam in it, took care of it, and not a year has passed, and that's the result ...
Mueslik
Vetochka, I don’t want service ...
As far as I know, the bread maker is not a technically difficult product, so I want to get the money back, anyway, try to win the war with the store
Since HP did not work without breakdowns and half the warranty period, it is difficult to count on bright prospects in the future
Crochet
Mueslik ,
Yeah ... It's a shame for Moulinex, I just don't have the strength ... I'm still (t-t-t) all right, but I've already decided for myself that my next HP Mulinex will definitely not be, it's not a fact that I will again draw out a lottery ticket (I really think I was lucky) ... You read about the breakdowns of Mulinex, and you just wonder how often they break ... I still use mine to the fullest, and bread, and dough, and jam ... While holding on well!
Quote: Mueslik

so I want to return the money, anyway - try to win the war with the store
Since HP did not work without breakdowns and half the warranty period, it is difficult to count on bright prospects in the future
Mueslik,
Here I subscribe to every word! I would have done the same! Good luck to you!
Vladimir_r
Quote: Mueslik

So I had to check in in this thread
A bucket spun in my Mule, it leaks, when you turn the mixer manually, black water flows from below, the second mixer practically does not spin
Listen, it's a shame, I never even cooked jam in it, took care of it, and not a year has passed, and that's the result ...
Probably your plastic washer has burst, sealing the stem from the bottom.
I have the same problem - the stove has not worked for a month.
You need to order a bucket.

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