Aladriel
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RAE
I'm looking at the forum getting started?
Aladriel
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Tatiana 77
Quote: lisa567

I came to you with a request! Help me decide! I want to buy a bread maker. Please write what are the pros and cons of this model. Should I take it?

Kefir bread (I don't remember the author):
kefir + egg - 250 ml.
wheat flour - 400 g.
dry yeast - 1 tsp
sugar - 1 tbsp. l.
salt - 1 tsp.
vegetable oil - 1 tbsp. l.
butter - 15 g.
Break the egg into a measuring glass and add kefir to 250 ml., Heat in the microwave. Load dry and liquid components into the CP, select the Regular bread mode.
dolli
The roof of my bread falls all the time as soon as it starts to bake, I put less yeast, and felt the bun ... all the same, in normal mode and French falls. It turns out well only with sourdough, according to the scheme: separately the dough, then stand and then separately bake. And you want delicious, lush with a crust. What to do?
sazalexter
dolli, bake recipes from the forum, read the manual #
and everything will work out.
A citizen
dolli,
You need to reduce the water a little.
Lilyushka
Hello!
And someone bakes sourdough bread in this HP? How is bread made?
A citizen
Lilyushka,
I do not use sourdough, but the principle is the same, because I put very little yeast (0.3-0.5 grams).
When turned on, without switching the program, I knead until the bun (4-5 minutes), stop, turn off, after an hour again, the bun has formed (2-3 minutes), I leave it until it swells, this is about 12 hours, then I turn on the baking (program 12 ).
As a rule, I knead before work, and bake it at night when electricity is cheap (we have it at 3.45 during the day, 0.88 rubles at night).
Fantik
A citizen, how interesting, thanks.
I am completely satisfied with my supra. We have been friends for three years. I also conduct various experiments. Disconnecting in the process, combining programs.
I didn't think it was a Russian firm. I considered it Japanese. Is not it so?
A citizen
Fantik,
It is an intermediary trading company registered by Russian resellers.
The goods are, of course, all Chinese.
Fantik
A citizen, understandably. Thank you. But even if it is Chinese, it performs its functions regularly. T-t-t ...)
And what kind of jam! The smell and color of fresh berries remains, while the jars can be stored at room temperature for a year. Probably more, only I did not have a chance to check.
A citizen
Now everything is done in China.
I have had it for 4 years now, and I'm not going to change it.
sazalexter
Quote: Fantik
I didn't think it was a Russian firm. I considered it Japanese. Is not it so?
Alas ... that's what it is designed for. There are many such firms, Sarlet and Binaton allegedly England, Bork mowed for a long time under Germany, etc.
Lena
: girl_love: Good day everyone !!! I bought myself this bread maker as a gift, the purchase did not disappoint, but on the contrary, it made me very happy! My first rich bread came out a little "lumpy", apparently the dough is thick ... but nevertheless very tasty! Now I baked "simple wheat bread", I took the recipe here on the forum, now I just pulled it out ... sorry, I can't upload photos here. Thanks to Admin for her recipe! Glad to join!
A citizen
Lena,
I have had it for more than 4 years already, I bought it for a trial "to play", because from all sides they were buzzing about Panasonic.
Already immediately the desire to spend 3 times more has disappeared, everyone is happy.
When mixing, look, and if anything, add a little either water or flour.
2-3 times and everything will always work out, Supra is wonderful!

On the 11th program (marmalade) I have been making excellent jam from strawberries, black currants, raspberries, apricots (pitted) for 2 years now.
Fantik
Lena, and I am glad that the ranks of "superconductors" have replenished! I am very happy with my 230th.
I confirm about jam. Very uncomfortable. Fresh berry taste, especially strawberry.Made from apricots, plums, blueberries, strawberries, ranetka apples. I do not observe any leaks or damage to the gasket ... I have been making jam for the third year. Soak my bowl, then a soft sponge.
Used for all the time modes 1,2,9,10,11,12. It didn't work out with express modes. Maybe she was unstable ...)
Who asked: Mode 10 is suitable for dumplings.
A citizen
Fantik,
Fast modes require a lot of yeast, and I don't use them either.
Fantik
A citizen, ah, that's it. I don’t remember why it didn’t work out. I don't like a lot of yeast either.
Yasika
Good health to all! Has anyone tried a yeast-free leak on this model?
A citizen
Yasika,
If about sourdough, then the process is no different from mine with a scanty amount of yeast (~ 0.3 grams versus 6 according to recipes), which I wrote about above (on 3 page 2 below the message).
Fantik
Yasika, and if about cupcakes on baking powder, then I tried, and I do it all the time. You can also mix the dough for muffins in HP - then you need to help with a spatula. And I whisk, mix in a bowl - it's much faster. And then I pour it into the bowl and bake it on mode 12. Sometimes I have to turn it on again (that is, the cake goes into the second hour). I bake and check - I take it out more often after 15-20 minutes from the second hour.
Fantik
A citizen, Thank you for your appreciation! Now I'll put the answer. My supra today was kneading sliced ​​loaves.)) It seemed to me that it was hot for the rise. Smell yeast and dough in the lid for an hour and a half of the program. Baked in the oven. Now they are lagging behind. Link to the recipe from tel. it is inconvenient to give. I'll hang it later along with a photo of loaves.
A citizen
Fantik,
She's also a hard worker, I haven't bought bread or dough for more than 4 years, she has been making jam for 2 years.
Fantik
Quote: Resident
I haven't bought bread or dough for more than 4 years,
A citizen, wow ... I buy bread. It is not always time to have a stove. Well, and somehow the mood is different ...

Here is today's supra batch:
Bread maker Supra BMS-230

This recipe: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=165815.0
A citizen
Fantik,
And I wrote above as "cunning" - I knead in the morning with a pinch of yeast, without sugar, and I turn on the pastries in the evening at 23 o'clock, when the energy is cheap.
An hour later it's ready, I leave it on the grill to cool overnight - the aroma in the apartment ... I like it.
And savings, and always ready fresh bread in the morning.
Fantik
A citizen, oh, thank you for reminding me and for focusing your attention. The mode is really convenient! We must take advantage!
Fantik
Well, now, my supra apparently has a problem with the oil seal? The pin suddenly began to fall out of the bucket. The pin has a transverse groove in the middle of the height. Apparently there was a seal there? Can't imagine what he looks like? How to find a replacement?
sazalexter
Fantik, bucket replacement or trying to repair, the way https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=36855.0
A citizen
Fantik,
Well, yes, there is a seal, the plastic had to go somewhere.
Did you find anything in the baking or inside, there was no smell of plastic when you turned it on?
Fantik
sazalexter, Yes thank you. I read this topic. There, some photos are not displayed, unfortunately. What is a PN node, for example.
Fantik
A citizen, didn't see anything. The fact is that the bucket was washed. I came and carried to put it in the oven, I saw that it was not washed. I returned, washed, and a shaft flew out in my hands in the sink ... Inside (if you look into the bucket), when you insert the shaft, everything looks like it was 4 years old. But the shaft does not hold itself.
Yesterday I read it, but so far I have not come to any conclusion what the problem is and what to do.
If you illuminate the inner hole of the bucket, you can see a little bit of red-colored debris - as if a worn-out elastic band ...
A citizen
Fantik,
Unfortunately, not having in hand, it is difficult to advise something.
It is likely that something is wrong with the seal, and it probably won't be difficult to restore.

I didn't understand my own, because thank God there is no need, and after reading the topic about Panasonic about problems, I don’t dare to disassemble it while it works fine, although my hands are itching for it now, I would like to help you

.
Fantik
A citizen, no, really. Don't even think about disassembling yours. )) I'll manage somehow. There are several options for the development of events, including the new hp :))))
Irgata
My supra began to creak wildly with a stirrer during kneading, when the bun is already tight, the oven is 2 years old, I use it mainly for kneading and yeast and dumplings dough, and for baking. How bakes on programs, I do not like it, the roof often falls off, which they also complained about. I bought a stock to replace the mystery, the stove is so-so, one in it for plus - I bought it cheap. So - began to creak - can you pick up another one?
A citizen
If the roof falls off, you need to remove a little water.
It is necessary to look at the cause of the creak, maybe just grease.
Irgata
Quote: Resident
If the roof falls off, you need to remove a little water.
I already wrote in another topic-t on programs is too high, the dough is reheated with a good rise. Therefore, I do not use the program, let it knead and bake, and with time between the proofings I will figure it out myself.
Quote: Resident
can just grease.
there seems to be nothing to smear .. smeared on top, but everything is removed with the dough. If you try it from below, but there the oil will fry. In general, he will die if, Supra = neither nor.
A citizen
It's strange, mine has been plowing for more than 4 years, and so far it does not seem to be pessimistic.
It is necessary to look at what exactly is scraping, through the forum they somehow cannot imagine what could happen there.
Fantik
Irsha, buy a new bucket, it's cheaper than a new oven. I called the service about my ejected shaft. They said the bucket could not be repaired. I think the masters are just too lazy to get in touch. (I ordered new ones, tomorrow I'm going to pick up two at once, 600 rubles each.
Irgata
Quote: Fantik
buy a new bucket,
Until the whole thing is needed, everything works, only creaks like madness when the bun becomes tight.
Quote: Fantik
for 600 rubles.
I bought the stove for a promotion, less than 2000r, let's see how much it will produce, the former mistress was a quiet girl.
NNV23
Quote: Fantik

I ordered new ones, tomorrow I'm going to pick up two at once, 600 rubles each.
Funtik, throw the link where you ordered the buckets. You can in a personal. For me too relevant
A citizen
Quote: Fantik
I ordered new ones, tomorrow I'm going to pick up two at once, 600 rubles each
Tell me where, I also want to order a couple for my wet nurse.
On the old one, the coating is already damaged, and on holidays it is more convenient to knead 2-3 at once, and one after another for baking.
I will be very grateful, thank you very much!

Quote: Irsha
I bought the stove for a promotion, less than 2000r, let's see how much it will produce, the former mistress was a quiet girl.
Also do not tell me, the price is just for nothing, I took mine for so much in early 2011.
Fantik
NNV23, A citizen, I'll try to send you links tomorrow from my computer. This, if I understood correctly, is the main service of supra on top. Didn't get there today.
A citizen
Fantik,
Thanks, I look forward to!

Not this?

The service center in Moscow is located in the Gorbushka shopping center, pavilion 438 (4th floor).
The service works: Monday-Friday from 10.00 to 19.00, Saturday-Sunday from 10 to 17.30

On November 4, the service center in the Gorbushka shopping center will not work.

SC contact phone: +7 (929) .
You can also contact the manager of the SC by calling the Unified Service Department (495)
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Fantik
A citizen, yes, he is! And I copied it, I wanted to send it to you already.
A citizen
Fantik,
Thank you very much!
Fantik
A citizen, office on the 4th floor in an old building (along the Barclay street).
: yahoo: Oh, I've already kneaded the bread! How bored I am! Itself did not expect ...))))
The buckets got up tight - perhaps the pressure plates in the HP case were slightly deformed, but they knead normally.
A citizen
Fantik,
Thank you!
ppcd
Hello. advice is needed. I ordered this oven in the store today. I read. it turns out that no one orders ordinary flour? I buy a king for 10 kg. then it won't fit?
Irgata
Quote: Resident
Don't tell me either,
I bought in the E96 online store, there are frequent promotions and discounts, post-service goods are much cheaper, he has a wide network
Quote: ppcd
Nobody orders ordinary flour of the highest grade? I buy a king for 10 kg. then it won't fit?
the stoves are all the same bake, the methods of kneading and proofing are different, any flour will do, certainly of the highest grade.

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